Mosin Nagant Range 2

[@22plinkster]

Does anyone else find themselves screaming at their computers saying "Your shooting high Hickok, your shooting high!"

[@hickok45]

@TruthBeTold2K, You all have to be rather sick to enjoy all my ramblings! :-) Actually, we'll be posting another Radio Show this week, and we have plans to do a Vlog this weekend maybe.

[@Anticitizen2689J]

My first rifle was a Mosin Nagant. 1942 round receiver. Love it to death. Its fun as all get out.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Exact same. I even have the serial matched bayonet.

[@jamesfawnsworth1623]

One of my Mosins was shooting about a foot high at 100 yards. I just took some 12 gauge wire and stripped it. Then I took the insulation and placed it over the front sight post raising it up a bit. Now I'm dead on.

[@brandonmckittrick2822]

Just got my third mosin nagant the other yesterday. There like potato chips, can't have just one.

[@rustyoljeep242]

Dominick Cobb Not really... Less than $400 doesn't really get you much these days.

[@JAMESPENN27]

Dominick Cobb Until u hunt r shoot 1 don't knock it . Why pay 500 r 600 for a rifle anyway. Mosin shoots a big bullet . I can take mine and out shoot any high dollar rifle.

[@DaytonaRoadster]

@FrontSideBus its not a problem, most of them have good bores, the ammo isnt highly corrosive, it just has corrosive salts in it, so most of rifles are fine, regular wear and tear does more to harm them than the salts

[@JAMESPENN27]

I paid 129 at gander mountain close by here. I killed deer with it and i rather have it than them 400 r 500 dollar rifles.

[@45calvet]

I love these old rifles. The first one that I bought was a 1943 with great rifling no pits in the barrel. Great shooter. Then at my local gun store they got crates of hex barrel Mosins. I found a 1935 hex with really Great rifling in it, again no pits. I went through about 30 of them before I decided on that one. With these old rifles I always take my bore light with me. The 7.62X54R is a very good cartridge. Keep up the very good vids hickok. Nice camera work John.

[@Edelweiss487]

Hey hickok45, Watching your video, I noticed you had your rear sights set a 1m. I know shooting any kind of rifle isn't easy but I think you would do better if you set the rear sight to 3m. The Mosin was made to fire with the bayonet attached and has it's sights zeroed at 3m. Maybe in your freetime, you can try it out and see how it feels ^_^ love your vids and am a fan.

[@jerryw6699]

I like this post. A guy like Hickok, that just started shooting, needs advice on how to sight a rifle? After he gets some experience, he'll figure it out, I think.

[@thesmokinggun8674]

jerryw66 mosin not zeroed at 300m it's 100.

[@alangordon3283]

It’s zeroed at what ever Hickok has zeroed it at .

[@kixofmyg0t]

Thank you for doing another Mosin video! I actually bought my first (privately owned) rifle-a 1942 vintage M91/30 shortly after watching your first video with the Mosin. Mine has been upgraded a bit, turned down bolt and drilled and tapped for a proper scope. I also refinished the stock in Red Mahogany #225 so she's a real beauty now. Absolutely LOVE this rifle. My advice to new shooters of the Mosin....don't shoot it on a bench with the barrel bipod with no recoil pad....Lol.

[@Tula1940_LB]

No chapter 3? lol

[@OnlyInhuman666]

a russian 1943 M91/30 was the first rifle ive ever purchased, howevr not the first ive shot. this is the funnest round i've had a chance to shoot. the lack of recoil shocked me at first as i was expecting to be thrown to the ground. instean i was greeted with a gentle push. i love everything about these rifles. even the sound it makes when fired. everything about the 91/30 is unique. and thats why i own one.

[@sauragnmon]

You're correct on the still in use cartridge - the 7.62x54R is used in their mid-range sniper rifles and squad medium machineguns - the PKM and its successors, and the Dragunov among others.

[@61loneviking]

@Gungeek Yes, and that might mean 'use this sight for 100 meters', or it might mean 'zeroed in for 100 meters'. It's likely the first as a number of military weapons have sights like that. Look at an Uzi, which has sights labeled '100 meters' and '200 meters'. It's an aid to help you put the bullet on target at a certain distance. My Springfield has a ladder sight that has markings for under 100 yards out to 2800 yards.

[@spleunk]

Your the man Hickock, I'm turning 18 on thursday and for the past few weeks all I have been thinking about is buying my first Mosin. LIFE IS GOOD

[@hickok45]

@Bluelunes, Yes.

[@1960gambit]

I have a 1933 Hex, 1937 Laminated stock round model, and a 1942 round model that I sporterized with a Boyd`s Forest Camo stock and a 7 X 32 long eye relief scope. All 3 shoot amazingly good and the price of ammo can`t be beat. 440 rounds of Bulgarian silver tip ammo from Aim Surplus for under $80 a spam can plus shipping. Cheaper to shoot than a 9mm pistol!

[@TheGbeecher]

They are really fun to shoot! I have a Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 made in 1933. I shoot mine at a local gun shop/indoor range. I shoot paper targets at 25 yards. The gun is completely reliable and simple and rugged. It's easy to clean, comfortable to handle and is pretty accurate. A great bargain at $89.95 online!

[@daveparker777]

I've read that the sling adjuster is towards the but rather than the fore-end. Great video! Thanks Hickok!

[@drunkambrose]

I just bought one of these about a week ago. There was so much crap (cosmoline and stuff) in the barrel that it took 2 hours and ~60 patches rammed down the barrel to get rid of it. The barrel was not pitted, though it was quite rough. I went outside, and put around 10 rounds through it, and it's accuracy quite surprised me. ~The Liberal Gun Nut~

[@hickok45]

@JasonFMTX, Sorry, but "comedy- based" videos have never been our mission. We just do some goofy stuff every now and then. There are probably millions of comedians on the planet that could entertain you much better than I.

[@tommymac88]

hickok, all the nagants shoot a foot hight at 100yds. I just got a new adjustable front sight for mine from smithsights that corrects that issue. It was very affordable and now shoots right on.

[@Tinstar2]

I bought my first two many years ago for $29.95 a piece from Roses Department Store. They were in original condition, very rough, but operated and shot like champs! My son and I still have them. I have one that just came in today, but I won't be picking it up until Wednesday. I requested a TULA Hex model. Hope that's what I got! Either way, I'll be happy as it was only $89.99 plus shipping. Great history and very fine shooting rifles! Also got a Nagant pistol recently and love it too!

[@DarthEvilicus]

@Nwest82 its a solid wood stock with a metal butt plate and all the recoil goes straight into your shoulder.5 shots and your shoulder is done. Padding of some sort is a necessity.

[@kyle8293]

@maroth3 no weapons limits or caliber. Automatics require special licensing. You do NOT have to register long guns (shotguns and rifles) unless they fall under specific requirements. However, all pistols must be registered by the local, county, or state police whether you have a CPL or not... This is just for my state though. Different states vary. There is very little gun registration in this country

[@donsgotmoney]

I have read the problem with this is the seat where the round rests inside the chamber get corrosion and had to be cleaned thoroughly. It can be done by yourself or by a gun smith. You may also need to break down the bolt and clean the ejector tab out. If you check out some more of the YT video's somebody has done a bolt break down to properly clean it out.

[@JoesBeef]

@MrXl250 Yes it is, Smith and Wesson patened and began producing the .22 short in 1857. The french tried to pull off an all-in-1 cartiage called the "bb cap" a couple years before the .22 short was created. But it nearly was not as good as Smith and Wesson's model.

[@SmoothJK]

@MysteryoftheGods Yes, the 7.62x54r is similar in ballistics and power to a .308 or 30-06...common long-range hunting rounds.

[@hickok45]

@ZombieMasterEd25, No checks, but they did ask permission.

[@DJA7943]

The rounds are from the year 1946-1953. 148 grain light ball ammo, lead core, and magnetic bullet jacket. You get 600 rounds, and I believe you get about 120 clips per crate. Of course, they aren't nearly as cheap as on AIM surplus though.

[@Metalsuitman]

I so enjoy watching Hickok45. Down to earth, real, and humorous. I agree the cameraperson is great at capturing the target and Hickok at the right time. I can see this must be an older video as Hickok45 has certainly gotten more things to shoot at. Anyway, thanks for the videos and I just ordered a Mosin Nagant for $150.00 including shipping so not a bad deal. So cool to get such a piece of history.

[@chachicharms]

Love this rifle.. Was my first rifle and now i own two. Good thing you have that butt, she kick kicks like a mule. This rifle feels and just is a treat. Thank you for always having classics on your channel.

[@davejorro05]

@oneforliberty he has the recoil pad to add to the length of pull. mosins have short lengths of pull to accomodate for soldiers in heavy winter clothing

[@RedSky1895]

The powder is notoriously slow burning and will make some impressive fireballs out of any of the shorter barreled versions, and sometimes even the long ones. Any cosmoline in the barrel would have been gone after the first shot (perhaps along with the barrel if it were clogged good enough). Mine makes a good flash even at full length with the surplus ammo as well, particularly the older Russian stuff (silver tips).

[@voripeter]

@wartactics No, you can use clips with rimless cartridges too. For example the 7.92x57 from Germany. Or the 7.62x39 in the SKS.

[@acidlittle]

This was the first rifle I ever bought, and it is my favorite! I'm a small guy (5'9" 150lbs) and the recoil in the beginning would bruise my shoulder, but now, it's nothing. Super accurate and a cheap rifle to shoot! A MUST have for anybody who wants to shoot big rounds for cheap!

[@71360PD]

200 at the shop I went to.(AZ) They were in good shape with numbers matching. Came with bayonet, tools, ammo double bag, and sling. Prices are up on everything. buds has then for 139.00 plus whatever your FFL deal charges. Still not bad for under 200. Cool guns

[@remx15]

just purchased mine. very happy with it. i love it for the history and effective round. it has gotten me interested in finding more older guns.

[@xavier6757]

@btis7815 Just because it's still in use doesn't mean that the primer isn't corrosive. Every 7.62X54r round is Berdan primed. That makes them corrosive, and near impossible to reload.

[@Oldbmwr100rs]

I paid $99 for each of the two I have, they go on sale at Big 5 and cabelas. Both of mine are pre-war and the earliest is hex receiver from '27. Both came complete with sling, ammo pouches,cleaning lit and bayonet. Watch the sales!

[@PaulSlavonik]

I've found that the 91/30 shoots more accurately at 100 yards with the bayonet attached. I've heard that they were manufactured to shoot with the bayonet attached and also found that mine shoots to the right without it attached. Just a tidbit in case you find yourself missing a lot. Of course this is with the iron sights. If you have a scope, you can easily correct your sights accordingly.

[@SparksTactical]

You never give yourself enough credit. That's a tough distance to shoot and hit accurately with irons sights. You do very well. I enjoyed watching as always.

[@tazmankb26]

@Solingen1000 Thanks for the reply. The last time it happened the gun had just been cleaned thoroughly and and stuck on only the third surplus round fired through it. Its hard to shoot the FMJ's in my area (very few ranges allow it) so we have just gone to the SP's in brass and had no issues.

[@MangustificationGaming]

I went and bought two of these rifles after I saw your first Mosin video. I ended up getting a 1941 and a 1943. THE BEST 200 bucks I've ever spent.

[@chaz706]

FYI hickok45 The 7.62x54R is still used in multiple rifles by the russian military. In particular: many machine guns (of both russian and chinese make) and the very feared SVD Dragunov (the Russian Sniper rifle). In short... you won't see this round disappear any time soon. And perhaps an aid to your shooting: the Mosin Nagant was notorious for being sighted low (and shooting high) at ranges within 100 to 150 yards.. Aim a little lower at these ranges-aim for the belt buckle for center mass.

[@snowlothar45]

Since you are a Mosin fan, What about trying a 1895 Nagant revolver? Same price and very available. I know the ammo is on the high side, but using converted .32-20 brass it can become a historic plinker.

[@core_fin]

@otso56 Digged up some numbers, there are a crapton of these for sale in Finland, usually for 250-300 euros. Naturally used, but still in fairly good conditions and functioning. We also got the other Soviet goodies, such as the SVTs.

[@Dezerado]

the value of this old gun model just sky rocketed since you reviewed it and everyone has suddenly become interested

[@rossmum]

@mjndblain Sound travels slowly enough for it to seem delayed at a distance. The bullet gets there well before we hear the ping. Those rounds are travelling somewhere in the region of 2,800 feet per second.

[@CoolGuyAtlas]

You probably the best gun shooter on KZbin to watch because not only do we see you shooting and enjoying it alot you also teach alot about guns. Also your a really nice guy :)

[@Deeks01]

@Lvl22nerd Bolt-action rifles are legal in the UK. So are .22 rimfire semi-automatics, lever-actions, shotguns with 2+1, or more if you have a reason.

[@arridedry]

hickok, if you dont want to put an after market trigger in that nagant, you can always just use 2 fingers while pulling the trigger, thats what i do on some of mine , trigger finger and middle finger. I started getting better groups out of it when i used 2 fingers on the trigger. you can also shim it up with a piece of aluminum off a beer can and polish it up a little. good video, love the mosins

[@kosmocookieduster]

@Hickok45 I hunted a couple of seasons when I lived in Wyoming. Never got a deer or elk, but it was a great time. Saw deer, elk, moose, porcupine, and had a close encounter with some kind of ferret or weasel!

[@bcbloc02]

I know from watching your videos for awhile you are a fantastic pistol shooter. As a Kentucky rifle hunter I would suggest try using your sling. I know especialy standing wrapping the sling on my .338 really helps to hold steady and not pull your shots.

[@hickok45]

@MikeTysonFan1011, I usually do that, or send them as a video response.

[@Offspringdude999]

I'm 16 and own one too! I've had it for a year now, no regrets. It's dead on at 100 yards. People are always like 'you're just poor' I tell them all the history, power, and accuracy behind it, and they get jealous because they usually have some Remington .30-06 that's more expensive, has no history, and equal power and accuracy

[@JustSayRings]

I need to refinish mine, the finish on it is cracking and peeling. However, I've a Tula Armory made Mosin that bares the hammer and sickle on the barrel, behind the sights. They're extremely good guns if you want something powerful, but you also want to take a step into history and feel what those people had to use during combat.

[@corvette19]

I have one just like it! Mine was made in 41 as well! I got it for my 18th birthday..... On Jan 14th. Beautiful, beautiful rifle.

[@StefanoRovere]

Well that rather depends on the ammunition you're using. For example with S&B 180grs ammo and sights left at 100m, the POI evens out at 200m, with Wolf 150grs around 220-250. My suggestion is to shoot a couple of shots on paper to see where you're going, then everything will come instinctively and you'll obtain quite good groups. Remember this was meant to shoot at human sized targets!

[@xavier6757]

@theomesandy It's still corrosively primed. All 7.62x54r are, regardless of the brands or labels they put on the box.

[@Unit987654321]

When I got my 91/30 I was surprised to see that the front sight can be adjusted from sideways. I also shot right without the bayonet, however after the last time I shot, I hammered the sight a bit more to the right. I haven't shot recently to know if it shoots straight now, but it's a suggestion to you.

[@jonboynumba1]

Sometimes the simple cheap surplus bolt actions just can't be beat for fun plinking...I used to have an old Fr-8 mauser & RFI enfield lil .308 carbines and a .303 no. 1 that would shoot mild handloads into an inch or better at 100 yards...and surplus fodder into a couple inches...a lot of Enfields tighten up with the right powder and collet/ necksize only dies...lot of fun. Kinda miss my m-44 and 91-30 Nagants. Great video...makes me want to go plink some!

[@kingsxfan99]

Just picked one up @ Cabelas in PA for 99.99 on sale. Came with the strap and everything, and its in perfect shape! Haven't shot it yet, but fun to look at anyway. Thanks to Hickock for another great video!!

[@glocknessy7374]

The Star and Arrow is a manufacturers mark. You have a Tula designed Mosin it's probably 1939 or earlier. I own a 1929 hex Mosin also designed by Tula.

[@brandon001ish]

I have 2 mosin nagants a 91/30 and a m44 i love em both. Thank you for taking the time to do all these videos! I watch em all !!! Keep on making them I will keep watching. Thanks again .

[@61loneviking]

It's tough to hit accurately under 100 yards with these high power rounds. I have an 03 Springfield that's tough to hit with until you get out there at 100 or 200 yards. The Moisins I've fired seem to be the same way. Nice guns, and it's sure a hoot to shoot a cannon like that.!

[@metalhead142]

mosin 91/30 (most common mosin, also longest and cheapest you'll find) run about $99 to $120 depending on where you live. Saw a comment saying a guy out in CA bought one for about $146 (don't quote me on that) out the door. Thats for a round receiver. Hex receivers are more expensive because they are slightly more rare. won't go into why, plenty of people out there can tell you. anyway hoped this helped.

[@nocturnalfilms]

Still in use with the PK machinegun and it's derivatives, and the SVD (Dragunov) sniper rifle.

[@reaperovbodom]

there is something about the sound of a mosin nagant's bolt that is so signature and awesome to me. love that rifle.

[@billlowe8917]

got a 1937 and a 1943, love em also had to acquire a PSL to finish my line-up the 7.62x54R is awesome round

[@gromann]

Many people get on Mosin's for their supposed inaccuracy but that's partly because of the loose specs factories were given. While some bullets would be a few thousandths of an inch wider than others, some bores would be wider than others, and once the rifles got built, they weren't really kept logged and tracked... Many people get

[@goldwest57]

@AXE2501 Clean the chamber and bolt VERY well with warm water and soap. If its still sticky you might have a defect in the chamber causing the cause to stick once its expands after firing.

[@oldairforcedude]

Pure fun there H, really good shooting without a benchrest. I bought mine 3 years ago, MonteCarlo stock, a beautiful old work of art, and accurate. I have the same body type as you so I"'m looking for that stock extension and shock absorber for my LOR. Always a pleasure to watch you shoot.....very relaxing. thanks for your time again sir.

[@AtlasJotun]

I agree with Hickok on loading these guns: I definitely hand-load the magazines faster than wrestling with the clips. Opened the back of my thumb leaning on a stack of rounds, have only used them two or three times since then (that was 4-5 years ago).

[@61loneviking]

@Gungeek How does what work? The long range accuracy? Quite a few of these old rifles are zeroed in at 500 to 600 yards. So, at 100 yards you have to hold sometimes as much as 8 inches low to hit something. Under the zero mark, hold low. Once past the zero range, start holding high.

[@greedkiller]

@Sbowling1979 Maybe it's because of the corrosive ammo you shoot through it. I don't know if you clean right after shooting? That is a good idea when shooting surplus ammo, otherwise the corrosive salts have a field day on the barrel. Have you ever tried plain old Windex for cleaning your bore? It removes / neutralizes the corrosive salts. Douse the action and barrel in Windex, put hot water through the barrel to clean it out then use Hoppe's 9 and a pull through.

[@Tezcatlepocatl]

@biggunzcdb .303 ammo is a relic. You can easily find 7.62x54R, seeing as many major militaries (Russia's and China's included) still produce and use it. It's also more powerful. The Mosin and the SMLE are both very nice-looking, reliable, and accurate, but the Enfield is more of a collectible than a range piece.

[@DaerBR]

When I saw one at the museum, they told us, that sighting point moves aside if you won`t add a bayonet to 91/30. Maybe that`s the reason?

[@DrummerTheAndre]

Hickok, you need to get your hands on a de lisle silent carbine. A marvel of form, function and engineering. I'm sure you'd appreciate it!

[@mottee]

Nice video of a member of my favorite rifle family, the Mighty Mosins. It pays off to learn to use the stripper clips, with a little practice they make loading much faster and more convenient. What brand was the brass cased ammo? BTW, you have installed the sling backwards. The loop should be towards the rifle's butt.

[@demoncleaner80]

Made me crack up at @13:30! "Stop, read a poem"... hahaha

[@Lokpyrite]

@EvolutionSportsCA This is filmed on the rifle range part. I "think" his normal targets are like 20 feet to the right.

[@HeinzVonHans]

I find holding the stock by the notches(Putting my thumb and index finger in them) behind the barrel band to be more comfortable than using the finger grooves in front of the magazine.

[@Gola308]

I've got two now, M91/30 built in 1942, and an M44 built in 1948. They are both a lot of fun to shoot, and fairly accurate. Pretty sure I need at least one more... ;-) Even the wife doesn't mind when they only cost around $100.

[@tehmediasource]

@Lvl22nerd Yeah, I have never heard of an extractor breaking on a mosin before. You can google the replacement parts. should be cheap to replace.

[@sunburstbasser]

@Eaglezero6205 You can buy steel-cased 7.62x54R through Cabella's very cheap nowadays. If you have a local gun shop, most of those are well stocked on imported steel-cased ammo as well.

[@RebelSapper]

I finally bit the bullet and got mine. A hex reciever from the Tula factory dated 1929, so it may actually be an updated Dragoon. Spent 5 hours and two cans of brake cleaner cleaning it up to find a beautiful weapon underneath :-)

[@TheMetalHeaD256]

i've been given a good argument that says don't use the sling. reason being, when you wrap that sling around your hand, you pull down on the handguard, which pulls down on the barrel. unless you sling up the exact same way every time (unlikely), you're gonna put a slightly different pressure point on the barrel every time... so while you could improve stability for practical accuracy, inherent accuracy of the rifle actually decreases.

[@Panzervagon]

Hey, with the clips, press the bottom of them into the little ridge directly in front of the bolt when it's pulled back, place your thumb near the back end of the top round, and lift the tip of the top round up a bit with your index finger, before pressing them all in. Just a bit of advice for the sake of knuckle skin :)

[@Bluelunes]

There's a local gunshop here in the Rock which has an old Mosin Nagant - it's been there for a long time.

[@EviLNox8]

I wish I wasn't limited to going to a range to shoot. The only place I can go to is 45 minutes away. I still haven't been able to shoot mine yet, I think I will wait for spring even though the weather is pretty mild right now.

[@MavHunter20XX]

@spaxspore two. One made into a 22" marksman rifle. The other is a 16.5" psudo scout.

[@GrimLin48]

Mine was also produced in 1941! What a great rifle; there's nothing like hearing that bolt rack....You almost make that rifle look like it's not a mile long :P

[@DoctorGarbo]

Going to the range today...wasn't sure if I was gonna take the mosin or the M590...waking up to this video made my choice a bit easier!

[@makun16]

Love seeing the vintage rifles. It would be cool to see you with a STV-40 and a Gewehr 43 for the sake of rare WWII rifles.

[@alexgray7329]

the round receivers were stopped in the late thrities because they were more expensive and took more time to produce than the new receiver style

[@jswallet]

I have 4 mosins. They are great shooters. I can hit 500 yard steel pretty consistantly with iron sights and Yugo surplus. They are amazing weapons for the money. And each gun has its own unique history.

[@phillipmorgenthaler]

Wrong, the 7.62x54r is not the oldes military round still in service. The 7.5x55 swiss is two years older put into service in 1889, and it is still in service today making it the oldest military round still in use.

[@Rom357]

@jonkam10 And Portuguese Armed forces and some police services, we manufactured and sold them them up until the '90s with german specs.

[@ThexPandaxManiac]

Seems easy when John zooms up! Great shooting Hickok keep it up!