Steve in Tekken 5: "The Mishima Zaibatsu will never make another monster like me!" Rest of the roster: "Promise?"
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
hehe
@ColeMeCrazy2 жыл бұрын
Tekken 5 Steve ending in the beginning best describes of how he was nerfed in T7 S4.
@dingledonk80272 жыл бұрын
I really like learning about stuff from old tekken games. Since t7 was my first one it's super interesting to see how the game was different, especially the combos
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I'll make more ❤️
@ScrambledEggAbdullah2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Most of the community is newcomers Tekken 7 Sold 8 million copies and only 2 million are the veterans or started in tekken 6
@fatranga2 жыл бұрын
I started in tag2 I'm happy that you started in 7
@blackblazin2 жыл бұрын
Started played since 2, 5 is one of my favorite in the series along with tag 2.
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
These "revisited Tekken" videos make my day. Been hooked ever since TheMainManSWE started doing them in 2019. I'd love to see more on what made characters strong or weak back in the day.
@blyat88322 жыл бұрын
T5 had a lot of jank in it, and that's what made it beautiful. Sadly it was also the game where Devil Jin became playable, so that's a downside
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
hehe
@thisguy17622 жыл бұрын
Lol dvj
@blyat88322 жыл бұрын
@Arvin 1395 I don't hate him, I just hate playing against him lol
@blyat88322 жыл бұрын
@Arvin 1395 Idk man Kazuya seems a bit better to me. I don't see DJ in smash lol
@blyat88322 жыл бұрын
@Arvin 1395 Fair enough lol
@DeadlyDAssassin2 жыл бұрын
Oh man this game brought so much memories this is really unique everyone was as equally as broken as the next one and people didnt believe me lol. I remember setting myself handicap 100%hp vs 150% I would even ultra hard the CPU just to get my reaction timing down and even took personal notes and taught myself tekken through tekken 5 I will forever be grateful to Harada san for such a good series.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
indeed.. i used to play this too when i was 9 years old.. on my ps2
@DeadlyDAssassin2 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 damn that means u the same age as me cuz I played this at 9 yrs old also back in 04 this was the game i played every character and hardcored on. Now I don't have as much time as I did back then and I miss that but this is still my favorite game especially playing tekken devil within with Jins story.
@10_Bit2 жыл бұрын
Except Jin was below garbage in t5 NGL, due t4 when he was probably at his prime
@Leadblast2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone was broken... only the broken characters. You're a stupid for thinking every character was broken. And no, Jin wasn't the only bad character in T5, either.
@AegisKHAOS2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the legend that is T5 Steve. Scary to think he wasn't the only one that was busted at that level.
@Dr.Happy112 жыл бұрын
People saying launch Leroy was worse are utterly clueless. Any top char from T5 would steamroll every T7 char easily, including vanilla shaheen, S1 steve or paul, and last but not least, Launch Leroy and Fahk. The comparison doesn't even make sense, since it's apples and oranges. Even though launch leroy or og shaheen could destroy their opposition, with minimal execution, at their respective time in T7, they are mechanically different chars than the T5 monsters. Even if we could put a "not-op/mid tier" T5 char in T7, but allow them to keep their great movement and properties of their moves, they would need a brand new SS+ tier for themselves, above T7 akuma, julia, zafina, etc.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
true
@christian13292 жыл бұрын
What's with original Shaheen?
@Dr.Happy112 жыл бұрын
@@christian1329 Let's just say you could legit play him with 2 moves. Watching any tourneys from the early days of T7 would make it clear. Shaheen's 4,1 jailed, and was -2, so it could be literally spammed, even at the top level. A high-high CH launcher, that you couldn't duck on reaction, had pretty good recovery (so even ducking on read gave a ws i11 punish mostly), and if you blocked that, Shaheen could beat all your mids with dickjabs/jabs. So yeah, he was pretty braindead. I don't mind easy-to-use characters, and I do enjoy Shaheen these days, but back then he must've caused brain paralysis after extensive use.
@christian13292 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Happy11 What did they change about this move in Tekken 7?
@Dr.Happy112 жыл бұрын
@@christian1329 Well, it's still a superfast high-high CH launcher, but it is much more commital now. They changed both the recovery on whiff, and it also doesn't jail now. So, when hit by 4, you can, if you're familiar with it, crouch on reaction to evade the 1. Of course shaheen can mix you up with 4, 4 which knocks down for decent damage, but that is unsafe (i think -13?), so it's a legit gamble/read for both players. Furthermore, if you guess correctly and duck the 4,1, you can more easily punish shaheen, whereas back in arcade T7, you both couldn't duck the 2nd hit, and it also recovered much faster. For instance now, in season 4 (and 3, probably also 2) i know from personal experience that, should you duck the 2nd hit, you can launch him with i15-16 launchers, like most hopkicks, not sure about slower stuff though.
@NorieagaHDR2 жыл бұрын
He was really busted in Tekken 4, too. Good times! T4 and 5 are still my favorite entries in the series, followed by probably Tag 2.
@wildman72202 жыл бұрын
He was not busted in T4
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
he was busted cuz his moves had almost no recovery on whiff
@wildman72202 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 He had no damage, no lows, and most of Key moves were high.
@NorieagaHDR2 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 Yeah, plus 8 frame jab lol. He could counter Jin - and Jin was also busted.
@Leadblast2 жыл бұрын
Steve was like the 2nd most busted in T4 right after Jin. And followed closely by Nina (bitch was busted in T5.0 too, as well).
@idoshanintendo2 жыл бұрын
8 FRAME JAB?!?! That must have been the fastest attack in the series untill Tekken 7 had Akuma's frame 1 ex dp.
@Kurosaki-san0892 жыл бұрын
Multiple Characters Had a 8 frame jab in Tekken 5
@idoshanintendo2 жыл бұрын
@@Kurosaki-san089 Oh I thought it was only 10 frames for the series
@naiiin69492 жыл бұрын
Yoshi's flash is still faster
@MrDxfusion2 жыл бұрын
@@naiiin6949 aye 6f, it's funny seeing new people react to the 8f jab, that was common back then
@counterhit1482 жыл бұрын
Ex dp isn't frame 1 by speed, its invulnerability starts at frame 1
@Lexicon8652 жыл бұрын
"most broken character in T5" *That explains why I tried him once in T5 and it felt kind of like I was in a rush*
@holyamaan2 жыл бұрын
I remember mainman did a review on t5 steve years ago and i was just like this has to be a joke holy shit
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
hehe
@taylorbee40102 жыл бұрын
It's not and I was there when this game came out man.
@taylorbee40102 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe 2005 was 15 plus years ago
@holyamaan2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorbee4010 a joke as in "wtf were they thinking"
@thisguy17622 жыл бұрын
I like these vids, i just wish they were a tiny bit longer
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I'll make more ❤️
@DeadBeanz232 жыл бұрын
Now I see why nin was soo dominant back then. Steve was broken as is.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
indeed
@henrynguyen39652 жыл бұрын
This was vanilla tekken 5, his infinite was patched out at a later update. He still was a monster though without it.
@wildman72202 жыл бұрын
@@henrynguyen3965 Not really
@taylorbee40102 жыл бұрын
Devil's Jin has entered the chat
@jR0xas2 жыл бұрын
Tekken 2 Kazuya another extremely broken character. He's the only character that can sidestep in Tekken 2 and if you eat a ws2 you just die.
@mharrtj63502 жыл бұрын
I need this Steve fox back in Tekken 7 and Tekken 8
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
hehe me too😅
@sebhoward66742 жыл бұрын
Yes Steve was broken in TK5! I remember that hellfire punch into unblockable! TK5 OH HAPPY DAYS!
@Kris.8762 жыл бұрын
As soon that you’re at the corner, it’s over 1:08
@pawepioro29982 жыл бұрын
Worthy to mention, he got JF version on the wall combo, flicker stance 1,1,1 into albatros,2 in low ground
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I see
@pawepioro29982 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 try also, close to wall, d/b+2, f+2,1~b,2 D/f+2,2 on crouching opponent... f15 mid XD. And last thing, in neutral, hit opp, with d/f+1+2, and repeat same d/f+1+2 enjoy ;)
@mikezyourfunnyman59832 жыл бұрын
1:26 DEMPSEY ROLL
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
yes😊
@holden61042 жыл бұрын
Top tier seems busted in this game, but if you look at old tournament footage, there was huge character diversity.
@Leadblast2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Everyone was spamming busted characters for the most part. Average or worthless characters like Asuka, Jack-5, King etc were seen nowhere.
@scarnovak52982 жыл бұрын
We actually used to ban stages that steve was good on. There were only 3 stages allowed in competitive here in EU. Secret Garden , Cathedral and final stage 2.
@haruto57662 жыл бұрын
Really ?
@scarnovak52982 жыл бұрын
@@haruto5766 yep
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
Pick your poison: 1. Get hit by a sidestepping Steve in T5. 2. Block King's d/f+1 in T1.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
block king's df1
@JunKazamaFan2 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 Smart choice. :P
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
hehe
@DonArgus282 жыл бұрын
His (safe) sonic fang on hit can be followed up with another sonic fang. I think that's worth mentioning
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
second sonic Fang is inconsistent
@FuryfistX2 жыл бұрын
T6 lars was something else too. Not even close to this but still pretty solid
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
true
@blackwind6772 жыл бұрын
Take an already broken character and make him more broken in the sequel. Steve II: Steve Harder
@LVXBackslashAirslash Жыл бұрын
His hellfire unblockable attack is my #1 favorite move in TK5! The damage and the +60 frame advantage is where he shines the best next to infinite cobra swife. If he appears in Tekken 8 Namco needs to bring back his old hellfire unblockable attack that way I can finish my opponent with a ridiculous wall damage combo!
@litusdelaspraderas2 жыл бұрын
Ah... the good old [3],1,1! So frustrating that a friend almost crashes his pad in my head for that. hahaha
@georgecastanza67122 жыл бұрын
Tekken is more of a rpg 3D beat em up than it is a fighting game
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
indeed
@foreveruseless12922 жыл бұрын
Tekken 5 Steve was a different beast💀
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
indeed
@retrodoodmanx71612 жыл бұрын
I remember in T5, NiN from Korea is the champion using Steve. This inspired me to start using Steve.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I see
@m.yudiyudi23163 ай бұрын
we need that DF2 for T8 😂
@ShaunInce123 Жыл бұрын
1 sidestep & an infinite & it's over
@fancyhermit72 жыл бұрын
Especially his infinite combo
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
indeed
@taylorbee40102 жыл бұрын
Jokes aside you can literally just one two three four twice and kill half a life bar with this character. My dad could do his combos and I was doing some of them at age 12.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I see😊
@jestyo0o2 жыл бұрын
Mwkan I've noticed that your English is getting a lot better since the first time you uploaded.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I'm doing bachelor in English 😂
@jestyo0o2 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 lmao cool man
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@afrikasmith10492 жыл бұрын
In short Steve in 4 and 5 was like Bob in 6.
@cicchio51282 жыл бұрын
I ve started with tekken 5 when i was a kid and at the time when i saw steve i ve thinked "this character is shit, he cant use kicks" XD
@Hfidon Жыл бұрын
ALB 2 was only op because you could do his 8f string into it and it couldn't be interrupted.
@nz5362 жыл бұрын
The only two who came close to this brain-dead of a character were tekken 4 Jin and launch Leroy.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
t3 ogre
@km19852 жыл бұрын
Na lol t3 ogre.. fast mid, mid on block that gave +12 .. and he had an unbreakable throw with almost 50% dmg… but different times
@lixunis2 жыл бұрын
Tekken 5 Feng was also incredible in this game.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
true
@hamedbenjohnson Жыл бұрын
And I thought Tekken 7 with it's bounds and screws was broken
@RigbyIsTheMan2 жыл бұрын
Back when everybody was busted
@jarnbjorn4522 Жыл бұрын
damn i used to main steve back in t4 and t5 without even realizing how broken he is. i just thought he looks cool when he first came out in t4.
@TheBigDynamo Жыл бұрын
I understand that Steve is ridiculously broken in Tekken 5, especially with the infinite he has. But, I have no understanding of what the captions are saying. I know they're fighting game terms but what do they mean?
@therealchocolatex64562 жыл бұрын
Steve needs his df2 back!!!!
@d-x6352 жыл бұрын
Wish there was some kind of Tekken collection with rollback on pc 😢. At least we'll get tekken 3 via fighctade in the future
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
yes😭😭
@mylinuxstruggle54952 жыл бұрын
When Steve was so fun to play.
@Leadblast2 жыл бұрын
Are you smoking drugs? Moron.
@mylinuxstruggle54952 жыл бұрын
@@Leadblast You must not have got the steve infite and catching perfects as they just suffered. Now look at t7 steve. Which would you rather play.
@Kof_yabuki20242 жыл бұрын
Tekken lord Steve, Tekken lord Bryan or Tekken lord Nina are pain in ass.
@johnblawn9402 жыл бұрын
Had Tekken 5 DR on psp lol the memories man
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
yes 🥺
@Leadblast2 жыл бұрын
T5DR did not have all these obscenities.
@Drex109592 жыл бұрын
can you do a follow-up video for T5:DR nerfs for steve ?
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
i can't find dr rom for emulater 😢
@Lee_Kagami2 жыл бұрын
T5 Steve vs 1st version of Leroy T7= El Classico
@grzib2 жыл бұрын
I really miss T5 DR actually
@HoDoBoDo2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about T6 and Tag 2 Lars.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
ok ❤️
@HoDoBoDo2 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 Cool
@user-pl7lr5dn8q2 жыл бұрын
well he cant kick thats why... only stomp lol
@moontation2 жыл бұрын
My Favorite character in Tekken
@AndresFnt2 жыл бұрын
Its too bad they made this character so ugly. Instead of removing male Raven who looked cool they should’ve removed Steve for a better looking boxer with same moveset
@solid31802 жыл бұрын
Try to ss vs release leroy with this I will sweep this boy to the golden land called: perfect Muda muda muda muda muda
@ManavSandhu2 жыл бұрын
D/f+2,2 launched crouchers.
@ManavSandhu2 жыл бұрын
If I can recall correctly it also gives a combo on low parry.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I see
@DJG37SАй бұрын
All the things you named expected for the infinite was dealable. Now the infinite was garbage cause one hit and you were dead, hence why it was banned in every major including evo.
@Leadblast2 жыл бұрын
8 frame jab wasn't super scary. Practically 90% of the Tekken roster had 8f jab. The ones that did not have 8f 1 were Mishimas, Jacks, Hwo and Baek, King (his jab became 9 frames in T5.0 and before that it was 10f as well), Feng (his b+1 was still 8f). When done as f+1 everyone's 8f jab was changed to 10f.
@ITACHIOG92 жыл бұрын
He's My Best Character For TEKKEN 6
@Awann87 Жыл бұрын
most broken character is king🤣
@zkc74892 жыл бұрын
He needed it
@Brainzzz1232 жыл бұрын
me too
@CheckMayte862 жыл бұрын
Well, you haven't seen Heihachi in Tekken 5 my friend!!! Check Heihachi!
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I'll make on heihachi too❤️
@EMPERORAFRO2 жыл бұрын
I remember all this aha
@RandomPerson28337Ай бұрын
Bring him back please
@jovillegas29832 жыл бұрын
Is the sidestep move nerfed in dr or was it still there?
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
it was nerfed
@chasejones61642 жыл бұрын
He was pretty overpowered in tekken 4 too. Not sure if it's worse in this one or 4.
@maxmercurythemm8272 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this one is worse. Until you show me a super-easy to setup touch of death Steve can do in Tekken 4.
@chasejones61642 жыл бұрын
@@maxmercurythemm827 fair enough. If you could get someone to the wall with Steve then it was pretty much all over at that moment but not that easy to do against people.
@xxshadowdevilx5272 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree I think there are more broken characters in previous like Ttag jack T3 gon,jin,dr boskanovich,king Beak t2 Heihatchi t1 Jin t6 I mean I can go on and on here lol
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
I see
@maxmercurythemm8272 жыл бұрын
You'll have to explain those. TTT Jack was nowhere near as busted as, y'know, Devil. T3 Gon and Bosco are cheap tricks characters. Same applies to King, to a much lesser degree, as he relies on b2, 1 comboing into itself to poke AND punish. T2 Baek is cheap due to his million kick strings, but still not completely overpowered. T1 Heihachi was purposefully overpowered though, he's the final boss. T6 was when Jin breached mid-tier. Nowhere near as strong as Bob and Lars. I mean, I can go on and on, but you get my point.
@holymoly123452 жыл бұрын
was a natural 15 Frame launcher broken? I thought they were fairly common.
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
broken because Steve is a counter hit oriented character.. he doesn't need normal hit launchers
@holymoly123452 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 I guess but 15 frame launchers in general are useful but not broken moves. but everything else he has is just nutty
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
yes bro.. it's true
@aminmustafa80052 жыл бұрын
You rock bro
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
😊
@TacoBaco-_-2 жыл бұрын
Pretty balance ngl put this in tekken 7
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
sure
@anggagamess-ps7vi Жыл бұрын
cara dapet kostum Steve fox boxing gimana woy
@RubbinRobbin2 жыл бұрын
Now do Lidia
@Boultify3 ай бұрын
And now compare it to tekken 8 botox😢
@frostense2 жыл бұрын
Nope I disagree with Steve is Broken one. But Bruce is the only one.
@abellopez65972 жыл бұрын
Everything is broken except for his combos. You’d have to land that 100% of the time. That’s assuming your playing someone who knows what they’re doing though. 🧐 would definitely work on noobs.
@lukdanar49842 жыл бұрын
Half life……traaaaaaash
@kabelosane5300 Жыл бұрын
Your dead my friend 💀💀
@Mangfera2 жыл бұрын
This is relevant how?
@mwkan7722 жыл бұрын
this is balancing😅
@Mangfera2 жыл бұрын
@@mwkan772 lol how does this apply to current Tekken
@Kurosaki-san0892 жыл бұрын
🤦🤦
@Mangfera2 жыл бұрын
@@Kurosaki-san089 I just don't get why a game from 2008?* Is important to current Tekken? There's funky stuff in current Tekken. Why is this relevant