MOST Cold Hardy 🍊MANDARIN In The World ❄️ Citrandarin US852 • Changsha Trifoliate Hybrid 🍊 Review

Come along as we take a slice out of the worlds most cold hardy mandarin.... the citrandarin. Citrandarins are mandarins crossed with the wild poncirus trifoliata. There are lots of these crosses but this US-852. I first found out about this from Stan Mckenzie and he sent me fruit a long time ago. These fruits are sweet and a little sour and are one of the best tasting trifoliate hybrids

[@rangerismine]

Nice video. I called Stan and ordered a seedling! Can’t wait to get it in the ground and growing.

[@toughcitrus]

@@rangerismine that’s awesome!!! I only have a few trees at the moment myself. Thank you 💪🍊

[@PeterEntwistle]

Wow, that sounds incredible! Thanks for showcasing it!

[@toughcitrus]

Absolutely brother, thank you for stopping by. This is one that should grow good by you possibly in ground cold hardy citrus 💪🍊

[@patatlantian4614]

Been watching alot of your vids recently. You could grow this channel alot more with some food recipes or juice and cleaning products made from everything you grow. Your content should have way more subs then what you have now man. I appreciate what you done so far

[@toughcitrus]

Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. Hopefully the more people find out about tough cold hardy citrus, the channel will grow more!! Just you watching and commenting is awesome 💪🍊 I have some plans for more citrus related videos like using all these cool varieties to cook with and lemon and orange aide mixes. Thank you 🙏 🍋

[@toughcitrus]

Citrandarin US-852 is a 💪🍊

[@tropicalsat52n86]

Found your channel randomly! Subbed! I love your channel

[@toughcitrus]

Thank you, much love 💪🍊

[@VALACHUA]

I would like to give these a go up here.

[@toughcitrus]

These are a little easier to get your hands on. There are a few people that offer 852 trees and seeds. We have seeds for sale and I know Stan McKenzie has some grafted that should be ready for sale in the next few months

[@donniechilo3966]

Will try these in SE Kentucky. Also have some super hardy flying dragon/ poncirus that are smaller trees than most poncirus. The fruit is smooth skinned. These are from Korea. They are better tasting with less of the bitter flavor.

[@toughcitrus]

That’s awesome!! I like flying dragon. It definitely has less bitter fruit. You should consider grafting some of this citrandarin or other trifoliate hybrid and see how it does. I know it get cold where I was in east tan but got citrandarin and citrumelo to grow on its own roots there

[@donniechilo3966]

I would love to do so. A few years ago I bought a variety of lemons from Stan in SC. One of the lemons is a variety that tastes like lemonade. The fruit is small but really good. I also had a Meyer lemon that I grafted to a calamondins that I had in a pot. The Meyer lemon got greasy spot every year and I had to spray it often. When I tasted the lemonade lemon, I removed the Meyer and put it on that big root stock. It never has any foliar disease. I will look up exactly what it is if you want to try it. Presently, all my citrus is potted but I do think a graft of citrandarin and Thomasville citrangequat are ones I want to try outside. We rarely get below the high teens in winter so on those Arctic outbreaks I can protect and heat it enough to survive. I can plant one out grafted on poncirus and keep one in a pot just in case. I currently am breeding hybrid pawpaw's and persimmon that are a quarter kaki and three quarters American. These do well here and am always making controlled crosses and experimenting. I appreciate you responding to my post. Thank you

[@quinnM1007]

Nice fruits! Did you ever end up growing out the original ones you got in Tennessee?

[@toughcitrus]

Yeah I had a bunch of seedlings that i planted around the yard, we had 1 citrumelo, a dozen poncirus and 4 US852 before we moved. Planning a trip back next year and see how everything has been doing

[@joman104]

Im in PA, zone 6b and want to try growing some citrus. Ive been thinking. About getting a us 852 and a us 942. Maybe I'll try to make a hybrid of the two

[@toughcitrus]

@@joman104 those 2 would be perfect to start out where your at and go from there. I know Stan McKenzie is selling 852 seedlings and I think Madison citrus nursery still has some us 942 also

[@Moshua_Gerstein]

Going to place an order and try my luck in zone 5a Wisconsin!

[@toughcitrus]

That’s awesome! Just remember it can have major damage around zero including wind chill. So any really cold night wrap them in Christmas lights and get some nice tree covers 💪🍊

[@Moshua_Gerstein]

@@toughcitrus thanks for the tips! I do a bucket garden and bonsai so chances are I’ll start indoors and move them as needed like I do when I need to overwinter. Think that would work?

[@VirginiaFruitGrower]

Noice!

[@toughcitrus]

one of my favorites for sure. Theres a new citrandarin, seedless, open pollinated miho x trifoliate taste a little better and no seeds. future video of that new variety coming soon. Amazing what was accomplished, hit the genetic lottery. thanks

[@samMTL514]

You need to test US852 in you backyard to see how hardy they are 😊😊

[@VirginiaFruitGrower]

@@toughcitrus 👍

[@donniechilo3966]

Sounds like you are onto something decent.

[@Russballer]

​@toughcitrus who developed Miho x trifoliate?

[@petekooshian5595]

I know it's a long game, but I think it'd be fun to breed a cold hardy citrus from seed sometime. I realize that it means you'd get some unpredictable results, but the thought of potentially getting something hardy enough to grow outdoors in zone 6 would be awesome.

[@toughcitrus]

I couldn’t agree more. You should look into Walter swingle and all the research and breeding he did over a hundred years ago. Amazing, and most of the cold hardy tough citrus varieties are all his creations, the citrange, citrumelo, citremon, citrandarin, citrangequat and most famous for tangelo. Swingle was the man!!

[@petekooshian5595]

@@toughcitrus Will do, thanks! Out of curiosity (maybe I missed it) how hardy is the citrandarin US852?

[@toughcitrus]

@@petekooshian5595 I know of us852 handling zero degrees without major damage. Where as zero and just below zero can kill a citrumelo down to the roots. poncirus -15, citrandarin 0, satsuma 15, citrumelo 5, Thomasville 5, Changsha 8. These are temps that the tree suffers major trunk and roots damage after these temps

[@owendavies8227]

User kumin on the tropical fruit forum is doing this exactly and is a few years in.

[@JT-ok6re]

I definitely want to try this orange tree in my Virginia Garden! I already have a tree that I bought from him years ago that is still in my garden but it has not produced any oranges yet.

[@toughcitrus]

They are tasty, one of the best tasting trifoliate hybrids available

[@raymondkyruana118]

Is it possible to buy these plants?? Or does it have to be seeds?

[@toughcitrus]

I just saw Stan McKenzie at McKenzie farms over the weekend and he has a bunch he has already grafted that should be ready for sale this spring, but we do offer US-852 seeds for sales at www.toughcitrus.com 💪🍊

[@raymondkyruana118]

Thank you!!! I'll take a look@@toughcitrus

[@felix1998041]

Has anyone access to those seeds and is willing to send me some to Germany, as i cant find neither seeds nor plants here? The US shops i found dont ship to europe. Your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[@toughcitrus]

@@felix1998041 I’m sorry Felix I don’t know any places that ship these seeds internationally at this time. As soon as a source pops up I will definitely reach out or atleast do a video about it

[@ross2398]

Hey man, did you get the name or contact of the gentleman who made the Miho x poncirus hybrid???

[@toughcitrus]

Absolutely brother, I sure did. I haven’t been able to stop thinking about that open pollinated delicious Citrandarin. The miho x trifoliate, it being open pollinated it will be at the heart of all the new tasty future varieties or trifoliates and breeding projects. It really opens the door for the holy grail of cold hardy citrus, a delicious zero degree mandarin with trifoliate in its parentage but no flavor in the fruit. I got a few fruits from him and will be doing a taste review, comparison with is852 also and just getting the word out about this one. He hit the genetic lottery with it for sure, good tasting open pollinated Citrandarin, pure gold

[@Wentworthjd]

Hi what do you think I could grow on the border of michigan and ohio? Zone 6a

[@toughcitrus]

Poncirus trifoliata for sure, and possibly these citrandarins also if you have a sunny protected side of a building. I have heard about them in Pennsylvania so with some love and protection you might have a chance. But poncirus trifoliata, the wild parent of these is the best place to start for sure 💪🍊