Most Common Mistake in Watercolor Painting | Values

[@rachelm7525]

Yep. Too dark. That's me, I go way too dark too soon, and then you have nowhere else to go! Thanks for the vid, Liron! 🙂

[@LironYan]

Haha, we're in the minority (; We can feel special. Thank you! ^_^

[@judithp6257]

Thank you for this Liron. I’m a beginner of 2 years experience and struggling with values, and shadow colours also 😆, so I really appreciate the videos like these that you do!

[@APArtChannel]

great.

[@LironYan]

So happy I can help ^_^ Sometimes it can all click in just one moment, and then you're set!

[@barbaraverser1056]

I love the statement about being loyal to the values. When I began a few months ago, I was loyal to the "colors" of my image, but paid little attention to the values. When I watched your video on choosing colors tonite, I noticed how you really paid attention to the values of the fruit, seeing darks that I didn't see until you pointed them out. It was a really great learning moment for me. It was fantastic that I discovered this video right after that one, because it addresses that very issue. I've been hesitant to go dark enough, but when I do, it is such an exciting feeling, because it makes everything come alive. Thank you so much for sharing what you know!

[@LironYan]

So happy these two videos connected for you 😊🙏🏼 Values really are important in achieving that highly desired realism. And for me - colors are my way of throwing the impressionism in there 😉🎨

[@danthomas6587]

The easiest thing to remember about value is that for the most part your tubes of paint ARE YOUR MIDDLE VALUE. And if you add water you can get lighter. If you add a compliment or Paynes or a dark grey or black then you can get a darker value.

[@elsagrace3893]

Yes, thank you. I’m struggling with the values. I am getting somewhere after 1.5 years but not even there so I’m loving this help! I never paint from photos though. I paint from life then take a photo when I’m done. I use it later to improve the painting.

[@LironYan]

That's an excellent approach (: And don't worry about time, it took my about 3 years just to figure out I was making this mistake in the first place! 😛

[@lynnfetzer6424]

This was VERY helpful! Thanks for taking the time to work through it and explain the methods!

[@velvetbees]

Thank you Liron. It's been a long time since I painted in watercolors and your videos are very helpful in bringing back the methods. Also, that's a great building to paint. I really love the Old World architecture.

[@NMranchhand]

Super, focused lesson. Well done.

[@dianequinn1500]

This tutorial ranks amongst the very best I've seen.

[@nathanielbarragan882]

I'm just starting, and once I saw this, I decided to look at some that I've done before, and I definitely do the first one. My contrast is not strong enough. I'm still not used to to the fact that watercolor dries much lighter than how it looks at first, so all values in my paintings are very light, but I still have trouble with contrast. I think I'll start trying to be more brave in my painting and try using darker values.

[@LironYan]

Yes! That's the way to go 😁 By exploring more courageously you'll find your other "edge", and then will come balance. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@kaymartin3907]

Thank you-- both happens to me, keep up good work! I’m learning from you all the time. Don’t usually comment, but enjoy all your videos,

[@APArtChannel]

like these

[@LironYan]

Thank you so much ^_^ Really appreciate you watching the videos!

[@vstanick]

Thank you! Great lesson, great thoughts!

[@rosemarymoore3142]

Just found your demo,great it was so helpful!! Thank you.

[@afrinmalka09]

Hi Luron,thank you for pointing it out.I try to do shadows less dark and it kills the beauty of the painting.Will try and apply your knowledge to mine painting for now on.Do more videos on painting shadows as I find them quite hard to figure out.

[@APArtChannel]

I find a lot of watercolor channels setting up palettes, but they always use the same brand together and end up being reviews more than anything else

[@LironYan]

Happy I can help ^_^ It comes down to getting it to be close to the reference, most of the time. If it's close, it should look good. Also - sometimes we are too close to the picture to see it is quite accurate (a part of the artist curse) (;

[@pranjalshelar3830]

And if you made it too dark by mistake you can darken the light part of the architecture.... It's all about the sudden change from very dark to very light it doesn't look natural.... In my previous painting i thought i made the light part too light..... But you made it all clear... Now i know my mistake.... Thank you very much... Love your work... 🤟✌🙏

[@TheJudeJane]

Excellent instruction! Great tips on what NOT to do to get more accuracy/detail WITHIN shadow areas. Thank you very much, Liron, for this enlightening video!🌟💖👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@LironYan]

Thank you so much 😊🙏🏼 I'm happy I can help!

[@VioletConnieArt]

Thanks so much, this is great info! I'm guilty of both going too light and too dark at different times.

[@LironYan]

Happy this helps ^_^ Thank you I almost never go too light haha

[@user-wd5xz6ev8p]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR LESSONS ARE WONDERFUL!

[@anng.r.687]

If you weren’t demonstrating this, would you have painted the entire castle in light beige and then add dark shadow over it? Or would you just paint light beige in the light and just paint the shadow in the shadow color (without layering)?

[@LironYan]

Great question - I don't have a predetermined go to these days. I go with what I feel at the moment. My vision and intuition takes utmost precedence over everything else. But either way would work, as long as I truly stay loyal to my vision. Hope that makes sense! (P.S. and the result with be 10 times better if not filmed haha)

[@btwilks]

A very useful video, Liron - thanks for posting this one. I definitely suffer from the 'getting it too dark too early' syndrome ... ... probably from always reading (when I started watercolour) that most beginners leave everything too pale and insipid. So far I've not been successful at adding glazes to slowly build up tone, as I've been using wood pulp paper, where the underlying layers always get disturbed by the glazes - with 'mud' being the common result :-( However, I've started using cotton paper more (Arches and Bee paper) so maybe I'll be able to try the 'added glazes' approach to avoid the too dark values taking over the painting. Thanks again for the demonstration and for all your contributions via your Y/Tube channel. Best wishes, Brian.

[@LironYan]

Oh, I know exactly what you mean! Pulp paper doesn't really absorb the paint. Glazing is nearly impossible. Happy you made the switch. I'm sure you'll see improvement 🙏🏼😊 And you can be happy to be in the minority of getting it too dark haha. I find 80% are the other way around, in my experience. At least we are brave 😂

[@plakjeham118]

Can you do a video about value relationships?

[@maggiefreeman6513]

Thank you. That all makes sense.

[@LironYan]

So happy to hear Maggie! 😊🙏🏼 Thank you!

[@roxannekeomaka4754]

Love this video. Thanks for demonstrating shadow and value mistakes. Sometimes your explanations make me laugh out loud, which always keeps me engaged

[@lindathaxton1994]

Excellent good teacher - thank you

[@sweethomes674]

Excellent process 😊

[@kaiimochii4906]

Can i use that combo (dark blue and brown) for the shadow for every piece?

[@barbrajoan2554]

Liron, very good vid today, much to be learned here. These contrasts are so important in watercolor and can make or break a painting. Sorry for being away lately but having pc problems 😕, and waiting on a new laptop. 😉. Your doing great. !! Thanks for all you do . Barbra Joan

[@APArtChannel]

always charismatic .

[@LironYan]

Thank you so much Barbra, no worries. Hope you get your new laptop soon and it's fantastic! It's always fun ^_^

[@chantelmcskimming6633]

really nice demo!!! thank you :-) super clear

[@1tlb0k61]

Wonderful tutorial! Thank you

[@Ameriix_]

I definitely have the problem of going too dark, and everything turnes streaky because the paint is so thick. This is very helpful, thanks Liron!

[@LironYan]

Oh I know EXACTLY what you mean! Haha - the thicker the mix, the faster you have to work at times. Thank you 😊🙏🏼

[@angiewright-artist8246]

Fantastic video that will really help me so much. Thank you for making this video Liron!!

[@LironYan]

So happy to hear, thank you for the kind words ^_^

[@MarenGermany]

Really good advice. Thanks.

[@captaindrywall]

great examples, it brings to mind I make buildings to small

[@themeparksvisionart]

Brilliant show how use shade great work! 👍😀

[@LironYan]

Thank you ^_^

[@cookingdownsouthwithcarol8909]

Very helpful! Thank you!

[@ivyclara9782]

This is very helpful to me. I am a beginner. Yesterday I painted a girl in a sweater and found that I darkened it too much. I wanted to go back in and add some lines to show that it was indeed a knitted sweater and could not because my 1st wash was too dark.

[@LironYan]

Thank you - happy to help (: This used to happen to me so many times in the past!

[@APArtChannel]

Great idea, it looks very interesting and appealing.

[@LironYan]

Thank you ^_^

[@johnnywhatevah5201]

Nice vid. Great advice for beginners to advanced watercolourists. How about a vid that is more of a "challenge" style; something that would bring all the previous "Color Shows" together in a personal way, such as "My Perfect Palette". I find a lot of watercolor channels setting up palettes, but they always use the same brand together and end up being reviews more than anything else. How about an opinion vid that uses different brands for different colors that you would use as a "perfect palette". Just an idea. Thanks for not separarting "us KZbin watchers" from "them, the Paetron givers". It is very kind of you to be so sharing.

[@APArtChannel]

Brilliant show

[@LironYan]

Interesting idea, thank you for the suggestion (: Most of my palettes actually have such odd mixes of brands, so a video like that could actually work haha. Will see about that. Thank you for the kind words too ^_^

[@elsagrace3893]

Johnny Whatevah paint colors aren’t that important. Just get a good brand or brands of artist quality paints. And you don’t need 30 colors. I got more than 30 because I could at the time and I’m glad to have them but really 12 or so will do fine. A limited palette keeps you focused on the most important thing which is values. I do prefer M Graham Sepia, Payne’s Grey and Raw Umber to others I’ve tried but I don’t like their Sap Green.

[@annathey2222]

I really relate to your teaching style. Thank you, I need to check out your online courses.

[@LironYan]

So happy to hear 😊🙏🏼 I’m really close to publishing a watercolor course on my own website. Will keep you updated!

[@sassyraggs3763]

Great tutorial. I'm going to use the suggestions.

[@LironYan]

So happy to hear 😊🙏🏼 Thank you!

[@maryharrell-bond1625]

Absolutely love just what I was looking for thank you for giving sharing talent

[@reuven1961]

Very instructive video. I enjoyed it !!

[@LironYan]

Thank you ^_^ So happy to hear!

[@rosemarshall1219]

« Playing around with the values » is definitely your second name !!😀

[@trisht5064]

Thank you so much liron this has been very helpful 👍👍

[@LironYan]

So happy to hear 😊🙏🏼 Thank you

[@shona4321]

Good advice. Thank you.

[@LironYan]

Happy to help ^_^

[@Chena_Pan]

Why don't you use the same colors as the building but darken them to make the shadows?

[@mariannazaitseva1487]

Its about improving our visual language:)

[@LironYan]

Exactly (; Like anything!

[@Hartproduktie]

Thanks a lot Liron Greetings from Holland

[@lynncraig6151]

I like doing glazes . I'm slow . I don't want to have to rub a color out to lighten it with tissues if I make a mistake which are many.

[@devdiksha]

it's very difficult to get the right value of colors because when the paint is wet, all the colors look bright and nice and after drying some pigment becomes very light, almost invisible. Because of this, most of my first washes get dark. Do you know any tips to avoid that?

[@zoweegeewhiz]

I very much like your style.

[@LironYan]

Thank you, so happy to hear 😊🙏🏼

[@dawncfoster7698]

Thank you. 👍

[@shahzadqurashi7728]

Great

[@user-md3rc9hb2s]

Hello, I tried to access your drawing course but it is nit accessible - has it been discontinued?

[@LironYan]

Hey - it should be accessible (: Are you trying to login or purchase? If logging in, you can do that here: drawanythingusee.com/ If purchasing, here's the link: bit.ly/2Gn4rOIDrawYT If you're still having trouble, you can email me at Liron @ Lironyan . com

[@jnetphillips7996]

Go easy with foliage. Detail will happen.

[@brianpan6453]

close captioning should be mandatory on YT videos today.

[@LironYan]

Wow, they should - and I have no idea why this one doesn't. All of my videos do (the auto-generated ones, which is better than nothing). Thank you for letting me know - I'll look into this. Went over all settings and it seems like they are unavailable for some reason. Super frustrating.

[@brianpan6453]

@@LironYan , thnx. I have a congenital hearing defect and they're a big help.

[@elsagrace3893]

Brian Pan why today? Today is Sunday.

[@brianpan6453]

@@elsagrace3893 , does that mean the close captions are at church? 🙏🏻 ✝️ 😯

[@aurodeepray9959]

First!

[@LironYan]

Congrats (;

[@elsagrace3893]

Aurodeep Ray no, no you are not 🤨 You will have to find something else to be today.

[@dawncfoster7698]

Too many words. Please don’t use 14 words when 5 would work. It’s hard to follow you. But I love you traing

[@LironYan]

Haha thank you and sorry about that 😂 sometimes I tend to ramble

[@robertg786]

You need to calm down and economize with your words. Be consise and get on with it. I stopped trying to listen half way through your presentation and thats ashame because you hae alot to offer.