Most Efficient Car Ever - Aptera

[@kevinjensen9803]

The head and legroom are quite good. I’m 6’-5” and it suits my needs just fine. There are videos of a guy who is 6’-8” and he states that he found it to be roomy enough for him (that was in the Gamma vehicle). The legroom is very generous actually. The seat rails on the Aptera displayed at CES were not the longer production rails. Those longer rails allow the seats to slide back 4 inches as compared to what we experienced at CES. I’ve sat in the Gamma prototype which has longer seat rails. The legroom available with those longer rails is even more than I need. Can’t say that about very many vehicles that I’ve ever been in. My size 13 shoes fit just fine under the dash and on the pedals.

[@jasonhochstrasser8657]

I am 6'3" and sat in the Aptera at CES. In the position they had the seat at CES my eye line was right at the sun visor level, so I had to duck my head to see out, or recline the front seat back. It wasn't my favorite driving position, but was doable.

[@aussieideasman8498]

The seat rails being different to production is one more of many reasons why this was not production intent as advertised, but yet another fake prototype. Not as bad as having no motor; no ABS; and no glass on the roof and hatch, but it indicates how inept they are. Rails are very easy to get right first time.

[@GullWingInnMoclips]

@@aussieideasman8498 Oh, look, Trolly-McTroll-Face is in the comments section supplying the wanker's-whinge we expect from a premium grade ankle-biter! How precious. Thanks for your service.

[@DemaGeek]

Great Aptera overview! It's fantastic that you were able to attend CES and see Aptera in person!!

[@JEP-Tech]

Correction, the silver outer panels are just fiberglass with a vinyl wrap. It is not anything unique or special and it has to be wrapped or it will fade and lose structural integrity from UV damage. Aptera said for their launch audition, they will all be silver, but will offer other color options for later models. You can also order it without a vinyl wrap and they will provide you with the template needed to get it wrapped in whatever color you want somewhere else.

[@RHPDaddy]

I am pretty sure only the hood solar had the final glass encapsulation. That's why there was waviness and delamination on the other panels. I am #1400. Congrats.

[@DemaGeek]

In production, all of the solar panels will be laminated with glass as the exterior layer. The larger glass needed for the rest of the vehicle simply didn't arrive to Aptera in time for CES.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@DemaGeek Another reason why they are fake prototypes. You were lied to.

[@DemaGeek]

@@aussieideasman8498 Look for truth and credibility people.

[@artboymoy]

Great run down! Investor as well and hoping the Aptera will hit the roads in 2025. It's just a unique vehicle and how we should be moving transportation forward instead of making larger and larger vehicles and just pushing more batteries into them.

[@Stephen-Jones]

I'm really hoping they can succeed, I've been watching with interest since I saw them in a FullyCharged video a while ago

[@tims8603]

Small correction, the BINC (exploded one) is painted. They didn't have time to get it wrapped before CES .

[@DemaGeek]

No paint will be used in production, only wrap. The side panels of the vehicle are fiberglass, which is molded using the same process as the carbon fiber, and it needs UV protection. It comes out of the presses white, and gets wrapped from there.

[@tims8603]

@@DemaGeek Did you read my comment or just reply without?

[@DemaGeek]

@ Absolutely I read it, I wouldn't comment without reading first. I didn't mean to offend in any way, I was just adding my two cents as a long time Aptera follower, order holder, and investor.

[@tims8603]

@@DemaGeek OK

[@cruzer01]

Great video, thanks for posting

[@glennzajic7318]

They will have only front airbags, not side or top. The only autocycle to have seat belts and airbags and be crash tested!

[@aussieideasman8498]

You are correct. Thanks for straightening out some of the misinformation. I know you are a fanboy, maybe even an ambassador.

[@brianjacobsen8161]

Such a good video pointing out different things about the Aptera! Thanks!

[@joelcordeiro2079]

YAY! Aptera is an honest company! Go Aptera! It's about time that there are people who care enough to do something about all this pollution by offering a smarter footprint on our environment! Egregious building of bigger and more wasteful vehicles is truly an insult to whom or whatever made our planet! We have become the Cancer of the earth! We should care and respect our planet and do whatever we can do to help. I am an accelerator #1137 doing what I can.🌍🚦⛽

[@gr8dvd]

"insult to whom or whatever made our planet" Dunno why I found this hilarious but I frame same idea as… how much do you have to hate our children, and their children to continue as we have?

[@TheMarshmellowman53]

wow you really do love this car... putting a video about it an everything lol

[@gmv0553]

Too bad you didn't take a ride in the Aptera they had at CES! It was for the media! They were ending the day with very little energy used from the battery and one day they actually had more energy in the battery at the end of the day then when they started in the morning! The solar worked better then they had hoped for!

[@aussieideasman8498]

From evidence thus far, it is highly unlikely that these results are true. You have just been told this, but that data collection has not confirmed it and the screens show reasonable losses to the tune of 14% soc.

[@santanumaitra3962]

Great video with lucid description and clear insight of what Aptera is all about to someone who may not be familiar with this vehicle. Much appreciated at this time of Aptera's journey.

[@redjohn20001]

Truly an automotive revolution. Thanks for the video.

[@Sine1040]

Cool time lapse shots doc!

[@charlesbeane8795]

Those seats really look like yard furniture. What was your take on their long term use?

[@SteveBueche1027]

Keep in mind that just the solid blocks to make these molds cost millions of dollars. The same company, CPC, makes things for Lamborghini as well.

[@gonzogeezer]

Accelerator #1184 here. Maybe we’ll bump into each other at Aptera boot camp.

[@jflow5601]

Aptera keeps claiming 40 mile range from solar. At what speed???

[@johnpaddock5238]

It’s 40 miles of added range.

[@mgxmaddguiness7066]

Ty for your honest review.As a 6ft plus guy , legroom and foot area is crucial for me. I want to see this become successful but it wouldn’t fit me.

[@jasonhochstrasser8657]

At 6'3" I had to duck my head or recline the front seat back to see out the front, otherwise I was looking right at the sun visor. Those that like sports cars may be used to the reclined driving position, so not a deal breaker for me.

[@mgxmaddguiness7066]

@ the Vanderhall is more accommodating for us tall giants. Lol

[@rteune2416]

Weird how Americans have Imperial and Metric measurements in one sentence. Miles per kWh. It just look funny to the rest of the 8 billions people on this planet. Anyway great review, will watch your show on Sundays

[@Pankratnazar-m1n]

Imagine having to drive this thing in mud or snow just one foot deep.

[@jasonhochstrasser8657]

Very few cars or SUVs could make it through 1 foot thick mud.

[@Pankratnazar-m1n]

@@jasonhochstrasser8657 OK, how about half a foot?

[@d.e.7467]

My sister and her husband ride a three wheel Honda. If there's mud or snow period, they take their car or pickup.

[@Pankratnazar-m1n]

@ Exactly what I mean. The Aptera seems to be mostly good for parades and exhibitions.

[@billsmith5960]

@@Pankratnazar-m1n - They drove it around a parking lot in Switzerland. It had about 1" on it. So, the Aptera has been tested thoroughly in the snow then. Just like it was already crash tested because a BMW crashed into one.

[@artsmith103]

Aptera has a big sign in front of the car. They are proposing 11,000 solar miles/yr in Southern California. That's 30.1 miles/day. I listed the 0.1 just to confirm how close it is to 30. I wonder why the video says 40?

[@aussieideasman8498]

The sign on the ground says up to 40. Your 30.1 is an average that covers all seasons. It's also unproven, so of little reliability. They got it out of a computer.

[@artsmith103]

@aussieideasman8498 No, the big sign in front of the car says 11,000 miles/yr. If 10 miles/kWh, that they are still promoting, is ever demonstrated, they hope for 11,000 miles/yr. That's 30 miles/day. We'll see. But they have backed off from 40 to 30, and now keep 40 alive by saying Up To. But if they average 30, they will get Up To 50, 60 or more. 40 has no significance in solar math for an array averaging 30. Listen to how Aptera has gotten people to refer to 40, as if it will be a regular hopeful achievement. I think they have deliberately constructed the confusing reference. Some new fanboys think this has always been the reference for 40.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@artsmith103 We are looking at different signs and both are there. The one that says 40 shows they haven't always backed off. They take every opportunity to embellish performance claims, and to-date have never verified any of them, and that is across the board. They are about five days away from their promised testing of Herpes, and watch that turn out to be a non-event (as usual). If it isn't delayed by months, it will be done in-house and probably rigged. Nothing short of independent tests by competent testers in the field is acceptable. These testers should be government approved and used to get vehicles approved for registering.

[@Secondwind2010]

$50 says it never makes it to production

[@Chitown388]

The aptera is awesome but its biggest problem is the cost. The 400-mile 2-seat fwd version costs $40k. The Tesla model 360-Mile 5-seat AWD is a bit over $40k after $7.5k fed rebate. The aptera is supposed to be much simpler to manufacture because the number of parts is far fewer than the model 3. And yet, it costs about the same as model 3. It's also far less practical and far less proven than the model 3. The vast majority would choose the model 3 over the highly niche vehicle aptera given the same cost.

[@michaelmay9958]

Rebates probably won’t be around thanks to Trump and Elon. Practicality is dependent upon use-case. Aptera is much more practical for me, especially being able to get over 150 miles of range overnight just by using a regular 120V wall outlet.

[@Piercepage]

Tesla prices were also able to come down once they reached volume production. Aptera will hopefully be able to do the same once they get out there

[@barnabasseadog7660]

Insurance for my Arcimoto FUV is $300 a year. Aptera will be the same with a lower cost of ownership than a Tesla.because it makes its own fuel.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@michaelmay9958 Be sure of that 150 miles before you buy. There's a good chance it's an exaggeration.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@Piercepage Have a solid price before you buy. Don't buy on a rubbery figure.

[@PaulRichardson_Canada]

lol

[@shrimptopian3392]

a side by side sitting car can never be the most efficient

[@glennzajic7318]

It is the most efficient side by side and you know that is what they meant. Back to your shell...spineless crustacean.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@glennzajic7318 It's the most efficient side by side doesn't change shrimp's claim that it can't be the most efficient, yet Aptera snake oil salesmen always claim they went for efficiency over anything else and omit to say side by side seating is an exception to their goal. They deceive.

[@Aa792]

Shifting goal posts? In like seating is more motorcycle like, while side by side is more car like. Potential market of side by side is greater IMO.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@Aa792 Where's my reply to Glenn? I can't see it.

[@djbare9]

It's a cartoon car, don't get me wrong, I'd drive it because of the efficiency and it looks fun, however the majority purchase on aesthetics and performance over efficiency and there are plenty of better looking cars with low drag coefficient.

[@RHPDaddy]

No where near as aerodynamic though

[@DemaGeek]

@@RHPDaddy Exactly, no where near the CoD of 0.13 !

[@danam0228]

It goes 0-60 in 4 sec.s

[@artboymoy]

For $40K?

[@gmv0553]

The money you save from the efficiency and solar drive the purchase price down unlike the other vehicles that are inefficient and no ability to charge off the sun. ​@@artboymoy

[@ksnax]

"If you can park in the sun, in a sunny place . . ", that is going to do jack-shit in half of the nation.

[@aussieideasman8498]

And if you manage it you are going to roast the cabin to the point that the interior will not last a couple of years of such treatment.

[@LGB-FJB]

Hate to break the news, but they are going bankrupt.

[@RHPDaddy]

You aren't smart enough to know that

[@netscrooge]

Bankrupt? Were you paid to say that?

[@Fairburne69]

Do you have any friends? Most startups go bankrupt. So there is a good chance you will be right. But you actually want them to go bankrupt so you can gloat and laugh at those of us who want it to succeed. That's what a horrible person does. So I ask again. Do you have any friends?

[@danam0228]

No true, hater

[@gmv0553]

No they are not! Not even close!

[@unforgivn81]

Looks like more techbro vaporware to me.

[@netscrooge]

Why would Aptera bother to purchase equipment for production if their product were mere vaporware? Doesn't add up.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@netscrooge You have asked this in the past, and have been given the answers. Make this time the last time you and other clowns ask. Aptera hasn't bothered to purchase the plant equipment required to build a production version, except in small places that further the increase in income. Take a look at the almost empty warehouse in Carlsbad. They haven't bothered to purchase inventory, either. For example, they have had an EMR3 motor in a glass case for well over a year and could only put one motor in the two fakes at CES. It is apparent Herpes got the one out of the case, because if they had another for it, they could have put that one in Apollo or just added the thing to the display next to the BINC and still remain in the case. They don't show their three Alpha's driving with later models any more, either, and I think it's because they have had to cannibalize parts. The best snake oil exponents are not afraid to throw money into the label or the bottle because in the main; more spent draws more sales and overall more profits than a cheap approach. In that light, thinking larger spending is evidence they are genuine is flawed logic. Since Jan B. took a brief post as CFO, their commitment to adding cash to make prototypes has significantly increased, but in the cheapest ways to make them appear to be genuine. It is my personal view that Jan has scared the bejeezes out of them after expounding her knowledge of Ponzi schemes, plus Trevor Milton going to jail and Paul Elio getting into hot water has made them more nervous. Asking why and not having concrete answers is no basis for 'adding up', so no way of drawing a conclusion they are genuine. Vaporware is still maybe -maybe not.