Most Heated Exchanges: Hedge Fund Giant Bill Ackman And Investor Carl Icahn Square Off | CNBC

In 2013, Hedge Fund Giant Bill Ackman and investor Carl Icahn squared off live on CNBC.
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Most Heated Exchanges: Hedge Fund Giant Bill Ackman And Investor Carl Icahn Square Off | CNBC

[@financialblueprint4773]

Carl is a funny guy. He interrupts himself and then wrongly berates the host for interrupting him. Never bully that man.

[@ssiipp7848]

Funny how?

[@renainc.6082]

SSIIPP listen again

[@ssiipp7848]

@@renainc.6082 Dude... Goodfellas...

[@allstarmark12345]

What a tactic!

[@HarshGupta-vz2ui]

Lesson: You don't poke a bull on live stream

[@Riptionator]

Carl Icahn: "I'm not here to talk about Herbalife" Proceeds to talk about Herbalife

[@owenwalker1774]

I was trying to listen to this amazing music but there was people talking in the background if you listen really closley.

[@jakejake7289]

LOL!

[@MrAscension_]

What music is it

[@HardMoneyDatabase]

Owen Walker lmao 😂

[@allstarmark12345]

LOLOLOLOL what the heck were they thinking

[@michaelbryant8757]

So stupid, so annoying, why include it FFS?

[@barakobama8194]

Herbalife is a trash company

[@bitcoinwillcrashat68kdolla58]

Pyramid sceme

[@rv1251]

Total rubish,

[@markymarkmark3530]

Mike_hawk 39 primerica?

[@yungcripple]

It’s not trash it’s illegal

[@bigyeet3629]

It’s a proven multilevel marketing company. Complete scam.

[@caulijutsu1575]

Carl backed a pyramid scheme

[@TommeyNg]

@Vorraboms yet, we believe the election wasn't fraud

[@joshuajoe1419]

@Vorraboms ikr why would 70 million people vote for such a failure, lol

[@joshuajoe1419]

@Vorraboms I’m not a democrat and never will be. I just don’t like Trump, his handling of COVID-19, home lying about election fraud, his many scandals, and his horrible foreign policies.

[@mokus603]

@Vorraboms lol thats false, maybe u should check the stats

[@teemuvesala9575]

@@joshuajoe1419 Oh yeah you're true neo-con warmonger who wanted war with Iran. John Bolton warhawk lover.

[@AZNGoSu]

I remember watching this moment live. The whole trading floor was going bonkers

[@vbandz2645]

Wall Street is basically like a park with special needs kids screaming but this time they are fighting over money and stocks instead of cheese strings

[@RealAnthonyJones]

@@vbandz2645 ive never read a more accurate description of stocktwits. 🤣

[@aaronfirtz2963]

@@vbandz2645 that's true, they fight because there is too much money down there.

[@johnalmond9426]

@@aaronfirtz2963 it's always fun to watch this very rich men tousel.

[@timcoady7095]

@@aaronfirtz2963 Yes there is and I made a huge chunk of profits from the market last month, investing in the market is a good venture that lets your money work for you.

[@christianwestling2019]

This is why you should have debates live. Not over the phone with delays etc.

[@mgvdb]

No. He’s just old af

[@steviosider2415]

The music is too loud and ruins your whole video

[@AnnaLVajda]

You can't read subtitles?

[@blainetanner5531]

The music is sooo stupid

[@tylerfrancis_]

Music is also v cringe

[@scottgoodman8459]

Carl "Hello?" Anchor "Yes, we are listening" Carl "Stop talking and bullying me and let me talk"

[@franki01mail]

xD

[@AnthonyDoesYouTube]

"At his favorite Italian restaurant" 😂😂😂

[@Sickkkkiddddd]

There's something to be said about a business network pitting two billionaires against each other on air for ratings.

[@MuffinFlavored]

it’s what the people want

[@cat3584]

The media may create that want

[@muhammadfurqanahmed9529]

You can say they know what people want lol. Would have paid to see the long version of this.

[@benhajdu4040]

Genius

[@KcP-rn3qk]

Yeah it’s awesome man stfu

[@rahulthukaram]

nobody: Carl: Hello? Dont bully me...

[@oldJimmyWales]

Nobody: The Chad Boomer: "....hello?"

[@aidanderson53X]

Yes we're listening

[@rahulthukaram]

@@aidanderson53X if you are listening, then let me speak

[@brucewayne5916]

@@rahulthukaram If you bully me, I am not coming on CNBC anymore 😂

[@stevenwb2410]

With his money, he's used to being having people applause of every of his word. Carl said some thing, "yes sir, right sir, absolutely right sir, great sir, thank you sir, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes"

[@mattttt5823]

Wall Street: “We didn’t make a lot of money on the deal...Only $4 million” 🤣🤣

[@trampolinemaster11]

$4m is not a lot of money to them because their used to putting in hundreds of millions into investments each time.

[@Brownismyname]

not a lot of money compared to what they risk losing !

[@gallectee6032]

@@Brownismyname Poor Wall Street. Maybe we should chip in and help em out, take away some of that risk.

[@admiralackbar8614]

@@gallectee6032 talking down to someone speaking facts is kinda immature and makes you look kinda dumb

[@snoomtreb]

well they each manage multi billion dollar funds wich shareholders owning fractions of that. For Ackman's Pershing 4million is less than 0.1%.

[@anthonywalker6168]

CNBC should start a show where investment bankers get to meet each other in a boxing match. It would be great sport.

[@ruderabbitgaming3776]

i would watch that

[@qhdevon43]

Same!

[@ericdoheny9108]

And the schmucks have to fight to the death

[@sunrisesunset7]

Hey financial news network guys. Tell your intern it's a "Bear Raid" not a "Bear Rate" LOL

[@BuyTheDip627]

WinSome LoseSome Loooool

[@TheCheukhin]

lol

[@solandge36]

Thanks man.. I was about to google "bear rate"..

[@dh-uo4lt]

When moon?

[@raindogs451]

Going back to the 80s Ichan is the poster boy for corporate raider. He, like his other raiders, deserve SOME credit for shaking up complacent managers and freeing up underperforming assets. It’s really ironic that Ichan talks about reputation. His MO is to leverage to the teeth, and then liquidate. Carl has never built or run anything in his life. He’s a numbers guy. He’s a liquidator. He’s a grave dancer. All tolled, he’s been bad for most businesses he’s been involved in, though not for himself. Ackerman is right about Ichan.

[@enkidu9298]

Someone like that would be useful by feds to destroy corporations they have no legal precedent to destroy. Horrific, but why agree to a corporate business structure if you weren't planning on screwing somebody?

[@Av-fn5wx]

Succinctly put!!

[@metalac6465]

When hedge fund managers start dissing each other you know stuff is becoming ridiculous...

[@mubashir7343]

The host was as Cool as a cucumber ....what a great guy

[@CPez]

He’s great Everyday on CNBC captaining a room off like 6 Very Loud and aggressive people.

[@johannesderspinner]

This is the only kind of gossip I need

[@musashi-san____1409]

How is Hertz going, Carl? HA HA.

[@pimpinmagicianofprophecy]

Lol hasnt ackman lost a fortune on that one as well?

[@shawn8425]

@@pimpinmagicianofprophecy Bill Ackman lost 900 million on Herbalife, not Hertz. However, he made 2.7 billion dollars a few weeks ago because of the Coronavirus

[@pimpinmagicianofprophecy]

@@shawn8425 mb sorry. I disagree with how he made the money (that option shouldnt exist) but good for him. I also dont care for his interview. Some of what i gained is probably due to him causing people to overreact. Lets just wait and see how this situation is developeing. He and others might loose a lot in the comming crash. Banks are looking worse than ever and the market is extremely inflated (yes i bought the dip for a quick profut but i allready exited the market). A lot of robin hood traders will loose a lot. You should liquidate your gains as well (or at least look at the economic data and decide for yourself).

[@shawn8425]

@@pimpinmagicianofprophecy I agree, I believe a massive crash is under way. I don't understand what you mean by "I disagree with how he made the money (that option shouldnt exist)" Should the option of shorting not exist or the option of profiting during a pandemic not exist?

[@AmbushSlays]

Amazing

[@stevetseng6249]

cant even hear their voice over this tension inducing music

[@masuphamolapo9560]

What possible purpose is the background music serving in this instance except for making it almost impossible to hear! (thank goodness for the sub titles)

[@saymyname7412]

What Icahn did was help perpetuate the herbalife scam

[@mohamedgoldstein5565]

Ackman is a slimeball but a genius. I absolutely watch his trades.

[@Kloutkulture]

THAT TLT PLAY WAS INSANE!

[@mattmahoney890]

His Netflix buy was a bad trade imo

[@Kloutkulture]

@@mattmahoney890 didn’t he buy it after the earnings sell off?

[@mattmahoney890]

@@Kloutkulture yeah he bought it a few days or so ago. Their operating cash flow is terrible. I’d say they go under a hundred and/or bk within the next few years.

[@Kloutkulture]

@@mattmahoney890 Well you know those hedges like to play the long game lol

[@AliKhan-fs3rm]

Carl Icahn can beat a lie detector!! When he’s half asleep

[@oyeaurashu]

Yes 🤣

[@silkstone5929]

I knew Mark Hughes personally in the beginning of his business when he came to England, so many crawling out of the wood work in America at that time to discredit Mark but they couldn't,Mark Hughes rose above them all ,as he was the real deal ,genuine ,he made a huge positive impact in millions of peoples lives ,what have these kind of Men done in their live s ,not a lot it would seem - I only pity them . Paula Pixie Moss

[@EBBsk8Norge]

This is like an episode of Billions

[@maxpower2592]

I Remember this exchange.....When it was live on the air.....

[@onee]

Carl: "Hello... hello... hello..."

[@valaquenta220]

"I will swear to it on any bible you want", how about swearing on the torah Carl, would you do that as well?

[@BreakingUFC]

The torah is the first 5 books of the Bible.

[@chineseviruszombie773]

Bible and torah is the same, dummy

[@BreakingUFC]

@@chineseviruszombie773 it most certainly is not. The Torah is simply the first 5 books of the Bible, Sometimes called the Pentateuch. There's only one dummy here 😂

[@marianavivanco4152]

They are both jxwes

[@arealgem9404]

*I felt like Mean Gene Okerland should have been mediating that one*

[@DarongQi]

Nobody: Carl: "...hello? Let me talk!"

[@angelusavila3832]

Ackman is absolutely correct! Icahn destroyed TWA. Icahn is an evil man!!!!!

[@heirtothethrone9428]

He’s not evil he just very honest .

[@neddiego2570]

@@heirtothethrone9428 In your dreams.

[@heirtothethrone9428]

@@neddiego2570 you think he’s evil? I wonder what you think about Dan penã then

[@PajamaJazama]

1:23 lmao the reversal

[@glennmorris1807]

I saw this live- Best television I've ever seen The cnbc circus.

[@AZNGoSu]

Btw CNBC cut out the best part when Carl said Bill reminded him of those little Jewish boys

[@vbandz2645]

AznGosu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dead Wall Street is a pantomime

[@mercedbread9045]

They’re all Jews too

[@nidulamaknidulamak4214]

This is like the TV show Billions but in real life.

[@proych78]

Why the overpowering music in the background ?

[@krisla8211]

Shut up Indian.

[@shivasrinivasan80]

This is like a sniper from an episode Billions.

[@MohdDanish-kv8ry]

When elephants fight its the grass that suffers.

[@tuirfghfhg1787]

professional thieves arguing over bounty

[@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind]

Stop living with the hyper-convenient fantasy that rich people are bad, or that being poor is intrinsically moral. Stop revering mediocrity. Go out, start a tech company or some other scalable business, become a success story, and stop using rhetorical tools like the one you used to isolate yourself from any responsibility. Telling yourself rich people are thieves is ultimately just a tool to fuel laziness and mediocrity, and make yourself feel better about not starting a business and becoming rich yourself. After all, if you have any vision for how to improve the world, you're doing everyone around you an immense disservice by not working to implement said improvements. Scum.

[@zimzim7]

@@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind dude used the word scalable must mean he's legit

[@maanmohammad8459]

Best comment,lol.And no not every rich is a bad person

[@ConsumeristScroffa]

@@arianbehnami1050 Except he shouldn't. That "scum" at the end ruined it.

[@rezapahlevi5056]

@@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind preach mannn

[@ThatGuyDownInThe]

wow, sounds like he did something incredibly shady involving herbalife LOL

[@localhost5959]

Mhmm but we're not accusing him of anything, don't want to "bully" him or anything 👀

[@TheCheukhin]

This is the most interesting CNBC KZbin Video

[@LinusE]

*everyone listening to Carl* Carl: Well if you let me talk *confusion 100*

[@TapalKuda]

carl icahn the avengers of mlm pyramid companies!

[@andreww5574]

CNBC killed it with the background music lmao

[@felipe367]

Bill tried to or did short Herbalife 👍 good man

[@selespeed3]

felipe367 he lost his pants. Lost huge. Forced to close with losses.

[@felipe367]

th tan I'm sure he'll be back

[@Nemo9291]

It's a betting game. He just tried to profit from it. Not really for humanitarian cause.

[@enonymuz8627]

@@Nemo9291 The way I see it he bet 1 billion because he also know there's a big reason or factor in this case herbalife distribution system was accused of fraud by many people excluding him. And he also was going to give all those profit to charities or nonprofit cause. I've read alot of people complaining about Herbalife, especially on the internet where people across the globe can talk instantly freely. I've found real pharmaceutical workers actually busting the products that is Herbalife selling. Now I don't know the truth nor am I one of the distributor, but my guts tell me Herbalife is actually a pyramid scheme, even thought its too big to fail already.

[@Nemo9291]

@@enonymuz8627 It is a pyramid scheme, a product based one to be more exact. Same with Amway, Nu Skin, Lularoe etc.

[@kriterium123]

Just a personal animosity between these two. A shame investors have to pay the bill in the end.

[@hazwell6811]

Never. Trust. A. New. Yorker.

[@lanceg3208]

🤣

[@lanceg3208]

100.

[@MarianoGabrielConti]

Preach

[@frankymacf]

“Hello…?” 😂😂😂

[@sunmoon9574]

Thank you cnbc, very heated!

[@criptor9]

Why would you end this without the anchor returning some comments or Ackman defending himself?

[@hoonaignachowaneha]

Well if your listening then let me talk. *lets him talk* Ok so uh... hello?

[@tim1887]

pops got Alzheimer

[@DoctorJaguarChannel]

Bill Ackman >>>>>>>>>>> Carl Icahn.

[@AmolMY]

The host was trying not to laugh while getting schooled by Carl on live tv 😂😂😂

[@maxpercer7119]

their phone lines must be silent ...hello?

[@chriscohea2817]

Carl Icahn sound like Andrew Dice Clay.

[@krisla8211]

Lmao 😂

[@theballadofkobirae7431]

It would be an amzing series watching similar charecters face off

[@jamesrodnilo4186]

Yess, I think Billions is as close as it comes, they have a similar scene

[@RealAnthonyJones]

Wall street 1 gekko vs the british guy

[@lenong8108]

@@RealAnthonyJones I’m thinking the same as well

[@sriram181]

Oh my god Carl Icahn put pyramid scheme advertisements on this video too 😭🤣🤣

[@jacklee6224]

Billionaire misunderstandings. Sounds like the next big reality hit show!

[@StelznerGaming]

background music?

[@walkerpercy8702]

Yeah Carl, Herbal life is a great product. Wtf

[@GeneDexterExperience]

Carl lost that one.

[@kevinp665]

Ehhhhh he's up a billion and packman is down almost a billion.... I think he won lol

[@thomashooper9148]

Kevin P , but Herbalife is trash and will eventually fail! They are only so many people you can scam...

[@kevinp665]

thomas Hooper whether you think a stock goes up or down, you’re right. But billions of dollars are made and lost in the meantime. Ackman is an investor just like Ichan is, he doesn’t care what eventually happens to Herbalife, he does however care about losing a billion dollars for making that bet when he did.

[@rezapahlevi5056]

@@kevinp665 talk again now

[@shoespeaks7433]

@@rezapahlevi5056 😂😂😂

[@MrRant247]

Why the music when we are trying to hear what these guys are saying?

[@the_freedom_quest]

Love Bill ackman, that other crazy guy is just funny

[@louiep432]

Carl is probably outside somewhere a very noisy place while Ackman is in his office or wherever it is silent.

[@amirkazemi2517]

Hello Hey Hey hello Are you there? I’m never coming on CNBC with you again

[@EwWhoIsTHAT]

TBF its probably latency from international call, happens a lot.

[@Wowsers101]

Hello?

[@AppleiPhoneHelp1]

Absolutely right

[@carscoffeeandmischief]

3:13. We didn’t make a lot of money, it was “only 4 million”. Being a billionaire is beautiful!!

[@vm3699]

Well the word WE is important

[@pootranoncnbc]

so CNBC just invited Cahn to talk about Ackman and hooked Ackman on the call. That's square. Did he expect to have a one-sided chitchat?

[@mohmuddhunyare4739]

new generation of goodfellas guy talks like italian mobster

[@TheHigherSpace]

Id trust what Bill says over that crook

[@stlouisix3]

I really flipping highly rate Carl Icahn. Icahn is a proper Brooklyn/Queens BOSS!!!!

[@x111tian]

4million is nothing to them this is how rich they are

[@bryansfistfulofwood4620]

Dafuq is a bear rate? 😂

[@shahrizana.9153]

Mario Rwanda it’s a Wall Street jargon of 20 percent down, Icahn was trying to tell that bill was looking to pounce on that instead of being holier than thou about herbalife

[@bryansfistfulofwood4620]

@@shahrizana.9153 Pretty sure it meant to say 'bear raid'.

[@ClarkPotter]

Bigwig investors complaining about being "bullied" regarding their involvement with pyramid schemes, ahem..."MLM business models."

[@AJFADEYI]

noone: Carl Icahn: Hello?

[@nidulamaknidulamak4214]

Dutch would agree, we need more money!

[@edgonzalez186]

Legend says that the Carl guy shook his wives hand to seal the marriage... No pre-nup needed.

[@cruisecontrol4922]

All these hesge fund guys are taking advantage of the small guy.

[@cj4009]

Two of a kind.

[@dvrsflrs]

please don't put background music on your video's

[@theexpertoutsider690]

Those are like the worst parts of this beef. Who the hell is doing the editing at CNBC. What the hell

[@zero1fifty8]

Carl showing his true colors

[@robertmccully2792]

Anybody that has owned a company knows if your company is not making money, you have to fix it.

[@TheMotoKing]

Dam, crazy

[@ericsorensen1714]

MUSIC!!!!!!!

[@andrewj4442]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Kinda crazy in hindsight to know that Icahn made $1B holding long while Ackman lost $1B on the short and eventually had to give up. I read that they eventually made up though.

[@Random-gk8do]

Ackman is a cool guy

[@blackfish4674]

That host tried could get too comfortable till he got humbled😂

[@andrevesthed6370]

[After the conversation is over and everyone has gone home.]: Carl Icahn: Hello? Carl Icahn: Hello?? Carl Icahn: Hello?!

[@mookie449]

Icahan should be on stage in the Catskills. Take my wife....please.

[@donmcintyre9226]

Business rap beef 😂😂😂

[@liyexiang666]

cnbc is so excited to get this

[@charleswoods5516]

Give them both a pair of 16oz Everlast gloves and the winner is......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@classicgameplay10]

So listen ... hello? . Were listening. Well, so stop interrupting. So as i was saying... hello ? Were listening. Damn, let me talk.

[@axmmcmxviaxm7072]

Icahn is correct. Ackmann is a liar. Worst rep on Wallstreet. True 100%. Latest example: shouting for 30 days lock down and profiting in from lock down.

[@MisterNumber6]

ICHAN is worse

[@freddycatano4423]

30 day lockdowns is probably what we needed in the beginning. Lockdowns and testing prevent spreads.

[@giovannifrrri5495]

Icahn is worse