Most INSANE Woke Argument About RACISM - Eni Aluko (4K) | heretics. 49

Eni Aluko and I have the most heated debate I’ve ever had on this podcast. Accusations of racism from both sides. Eni is a former football / soccer player who recently became the first black woman to own a club. She played for Chelsea and England, and now is one of the main pundits on British TV. #dei #woke #antiwoke
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Chapters:
0:00 Eni Aluko Highlights
1:30 ‘Too White’
4:30 Board Rooms
7:30 So Why Do We Need DEI?
10:30 Talent vs DEI
15:00 Andrew’s Own Experience
17:30 Eni’s Response
20:30 Eni’s Racism Battle for England
24:30 Why Her Black Teammates Turned On Her
28:30 Why Andrew Can’t Speak About His Experience
30:00 DEI Argument
34:30 Casting Doubt On Each Other
40:30 White Men Being Pushed Out?
42:30 What Andrew Thinks Should Be Done
45:30 DEI Pacts
48:30 Andrew: We Don’t Need Pacts
51:30 Let Businesses Suffer Then
54:30 White Men Benefited for 100s of Years
57:30 Things Get Heated
1:01:30 Black Swimmers
1:04:25 Trans Women in Men’s Sports
1:06:30 ‘Transphobia’
1:08:30 Trans r*p*sts in Women’s Prisons
1:13:02 A Heretic Eni Admires

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Hit the like button and share with friends - & let me know your thoughts below. Please be respectful in your comments - Eni is braver than 99% of people for coming on the show! We need open conversations like this.

[@SaudadeCB]

I'll try my best to be charitable. Props for Andrew for getting someone woke to the studio.

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

From this clip alone she is already insufferable and pulls out every argument we already heard a million times from these people. No original thought whatsoever. Andrew I appreciate your efforts, I guess they are in vain though. I‘m really sorry you put yourself through this.

[@goa9034]

A symptom of the decay of the West is the money football players win Imagine the money and fan's energy devoted to make their countries great again Yes, she is 100% racist Go to live in Africa and enjoy the life away of "White privilege" BTW imagine a White living in Asia and go out in the media bitching about Asian privilege

[@Goomba38]

Indeed. Good for her for coming on

[@Goomba38]

I feel she is a bit offside though

[@ricklee7732]

As a black person, this is almost too embarrassing to watch.

[@twashing2006]

Thank-youuuu! I was about to write the exact same thing. She certainly doesn't represent me. And in fact her feable arguments are doing more harm to the Black ethnic image.

[@Jebe_Noyon]

This is who everyone is beginning to believe you are precisely because people like you don’t check her. Someday soon absolutely no one will want to associate with you 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@eleri7024]

LOL YOU AINT BLACK, at best you are a white supremacist in blackface

[@user-sc5xu6hc1n]

I bet it is.

[@van7242]

I agree. I'm watching this, wincing, behind a cushion. This woman was top of her graduating year at Berkeley in law!?😬

[@jamesharrison3134]

She's simultaneously arguing for DEI while claiming it doesn't exist.

[@mattyjay8896]

Not the brightest in the room is she.

[@kuntbae3773]

yes this is mental

[@MultipleGrievance]

This is actually common.

[@just_another32]

yes, delusional

[@hannibal-9648]

@@mattyjay8896literally 💀

[@Phalanx1922]

As a black man…she spoke absolutely nonsense she is the problem

[@Wolverine4898]

You aren’t black

[@bigbobelow6147]

@@Wolverine4898 You aren't Wolverine

[@MJ-sm2yu]

@@bigbobelow6147 But he identifies as Wolverine. Lets respect his wishes and make this a safe space.

[@withgoddess8029]

"As a black man she spoke"... She's not a black man.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@Wolverine4898 What’s wrong w/you?

[@niknakz4339]

Its hard to win an argument with a smart person, but its damn near impossible to win one with a stupid person.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

9:57 She really thought that it was impressive to graduate at the top of a class _AT ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE UNIVERSITIES IN THE COUNTRY_ (LOL!!!) - and that is after she was raised in a non-diverse private school! 😂 This chick doesn’t know what the Bell Curve is!

[@utility00]

It’s not white privilege, it’s majority privilege. She’s living in a predominantly white country and she’s a minority. If a white man moves to China he’d face “Chinese privilege” because naturally the locals would have more generational wealth, connections, understanding of local culture and traditions. For some reason Europe is expected to be cosmopolitan home to the whole world.

[@pathacker4963]

Great point.

[@benhallo1553]

Perfectly said. These debates are a waste of time at this point. Both sides are too entrenched

[@richardgoodley7845]

Bingo. The foundational document on which all this garbage rests is ‘unpacking the invisible knapsack’ by Peggy Macintosh. What a suprised it’s a western, university educated white woman …. Dear god it doesn’t have any attempt at empirical measurement whatsoever .. it’s just a litany of crass assertions stated as axioms. That’s the measure of Eni too … everything she stated was an axiom … no proof required … the great Thomas Sowells works shred mindless drones like Eni … I highly recommend this greatest living thinker … shames he’s 94 now … I wish he’d lived forever

[@fitprotunes]

👏 👏 👏

[@emilybikerider4624]

Indeed. How she expects areas of the UK where there are very few people with brown or black skin to do”EDI” is naive. Should 10% of the farmers in East Anglia be black?

[@youtubeyoutube936]

When it’s under representation it’s structural racism. When it’s over representation it’s merit.

[@eibhlinnichrualoai]

Oh it's "positive discrimination" apparently..

[@brianmeen2158]

lol at structural racism. What does that even mean…?

[@dimpled_skeptic93]

🎯

[@patrickcostigan2502]

If you make a deffintion that is as vague as possible, it's harder to prove or disprove it existence​@brianmeen2158

[@karigirl3569]

Even when it’s over representation Andrew is making “incorrect assumptions based on the numbers.”. Even data is racist. There’s no reaching or satisfying leftists.

[@OoxB505]

So when she tells her victim story, he can’t challenge it, it’s set in stone. When he tells his victim story, it’s ’did you just misinterpret what they said?’. To use a far left term, sounds like she’s trying to deny his lived experience.

[@Wine_In_Hand_]

I KNOW!

[@NicolaRoberts-bw9um]

She actually has lighted him on he’s show in front of thousands of people. She is pure N..A..R..C

[@NicolaRoberts-bw9um]

She actually gas lighted him on he’s show in front of thousands of people. She is pure N..A..R..C

[@hayleyjackson5827]

That was so so rude, she wants so badly to be the victim. She wont even allow room for stats

[@TheGiantKillers]

From a very early stage in this debate you can see that Eni simply doesn't understand the argument.

[@mitsusousa1385]

I'm very embarrassed, as a black woman. The gaslighting force is strong with this one. Doesn't care about stats, doesn't care about Andrew's experience.

[@XENUGOLFCLUB]

She actually said ‘once upon a time’. Yeah- a time before she existed

[@PaulDear-jb2bu]

She is an embarrassment to herself. The trouble is that she tries to come across as being smarter than she is and she probably thinks that because she has graduated from university she can talk down to others and put herself above people who are smarter than she is.

[@Suzanne291]

She doesn't see it.

[@KevinBorrett]

I feel really sorry for genuine people who suffer racism obviously but I don't understand how she cannot see that she isn't helping the cause. Does she not understand that she would be offended if a white person said that maybe' white people are better presents??'

[@puffdaddy69]

She gaslights him the whole time while not conceding one thing. She’s delusional and probably needs to seek therapy

[@DanielS10291]

The irony is shes such a crap pundit and clearly doesnt realise it

[@pigchamp3627]

She knows

[@jimjames4348]

She has become the oppressor with the power and still identifies as the victim.

[@bd8421]

All the drama she's caused and the worst thing that's happened in her privileged life was a joke about Ebola 😂😂

[@jimjames4348]

@@bd8421 So true. They tell us equality feels like oppression when you've been given preferential treatment without a hint of irony or the ability to comprehend that such a statement could possibly apply to themselves. She has no empathy for the prejudice Andrew's suffered simply because his skin isn't the right colour. Mad hypocrisy.

[@m0j0lo]

Definition of privilege: ▸ Her father was a MP in Nigeria, which she conveniently omits. ▸ Despite this, she only obtained a 3-yr degree from a non-selective university - Brunel U. ▸ and a 1-yr legal certificate from a diploma mill - "The University of Law" ▸ Teammates refused to room with her because of bad attitude/behavior. (The Times) ▸ Pulled a Lioness teammate's (Alex Scott) hair during training (The Times) ▸ Publicly chastised Chelsea teammates over racism for celebrating a win with their coach. ▸ Left Juventus after 18 months of constant complaining. ▸ Handed unearned executive roles in football, but... ▸ was demoted after 1-year as sporting director of Angel City FC. ▸ and terminated ("mutual departure") 1-year after that. ▸ "Failed Up" again by earning men's soccer TV contracts with ITV, BT, Amazon, Fox Sports.

[@xaspirate8060]

Thank you. Im in US and never seen or heard of her. Based on what I'm hearing I don't feel the need to fact-check your list above. OMG lady -- time to grow up!

[@15walkingaway]

This needs to go to the top.

[@Proppa-Gander]

Sounds like a right cnut! 👍💕🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 xx

[@jojowynne233]

This comment needs to be pinned! Thank you! I still haven’t written a comment because I know YT will delete it 😂😂

[@GB-nu6ow]

​@jojowynne233 but you have love 😅

[@furrygoose94]

Once you’re backed into a corner with logic, you can resort to calling people racist as much as you like, but it doesn’t touch the truth (you’re fooling nobody).

[@heathe3529]

Unfortunately it's fooled a lot of people, thus we have institutionalized DEI.

[@ph8077]

She accepted your challenge

[@eleri7024]

Says the racist

[@Doutsoldome]

@@heathe3529 Not a lot of people. A minority of highly motivated activists can achieve a lot of unpopular goals.

[@bonghead6621]

Sadly in this day and age I have to disagree. Logic comes a distant second to hysterical assertions.

[@lee_6572]

Imagine if we turn the tables and Andrew says “maybe” in response to a question about whether white people are better than black people. The backlash and outrage he would face could end his career. Yet, Eni does this without any consequence; That is privilege!

[@Heimbach1966]

We are better

[@MarkSmith-sn5xj]

I have to say, usually I’d be on Aluko’s side, but my God that was an outrageous thing to say. She didn’t come out well in this.

[@rocket2558]

Don't have to imagine. He does suggest relating to boardrooms in football. And there no ending of his career like you suggest

[@thedevine7963]

He's actually the one leading with that question. She did not say that at all. He suggested it and she did not dispute it.

[@lee_6572]

@@thedevine7963 Exactly, she had the chance to dispute it and she didn’t.

[@jamesmccallum6770]

"You just know when someone is being racist and discriminating". 2 mins later - "Where is your evidence you were being discriminated against"

[@user-rq7gy1xf3m]

She contradicted herself on so many levels. She has a huge chip on her shoulder

[@tessthomas7966]

Exactly, how many times in this interview does she play both sides of the same argument? She only has her own particular experience in football to draw from. But as soon as Andrew starts introducing broader interpretations, different points of view, along with statistics, she can’t really justify her answers because she’s going on a feeling of racism instead of cold hard facts. I love when she described the evidence of racism against her by saying, “ you just know” when someone’s being racist; a feeling she had and yet questions Andrew about whether or not he should be believed about his own experience.

[@eleri7024]

She never contradicted herself, you are just slow to understand

[@user-rq7gy1xf3m]

@@eleri7024 my understanding is just fine, I had to rely on my skills to get a job and get ahead. Not the colour of my skin.

[@eleri7024]

@@user-rq7gy1xf3m Stop lying you got the job because of your white skin and your pals through the old boys network

[@sTraYa249]

​@@eleri7024 There...There All you do is show you're triggered, but you have zero substance in your answers. Keep on keeping on, kiddo

[@lauraragazzi464]

I'm so fed up with this anti-white racism.

[@meme-fs1jn]

What could solve it? Reparations?

[@lauraragazzi464]

@@meme-fs1jn - No, reparations are wrong as the unconscious bias theory. Color blindness is the answer. Coleman Hughes is a person I like very much.

[@theaaron2910]

It's unsolvable, the point was we were separated by hemispheres for a reason.

[@julianmorris9951]

When I was born in 1968 Britain was 99.8 % white, in 1987 Britain was 99.7% white, now it’s 86% white, see the problem?

[@lauraragazzi464]

@@theaaron2910 - Which reason?

[@leosorghum6867]

"It's racist to think someone got the job because of DEI" "Okay, so get rid of DEI and people won't think that" "But then they wouldn't get the job" 🤦‍♂️

[@Budgetdisco]

My thoughts exactly, it was just like the SpongeBob bit "that's not my wallet". Excruciating to watch

[@kingding7517]

she is the definition of a narcissist

[@SString215]

She is so dismissive and smug towards his experiences and the statistics but expects everyone to accept hers without question and value it more than stats. What a pompous and arrogant hypocrite.

[@judejohnson6371]

She couldn’t see she used the same logic as him to back up her points, except his weren’t valid because white people and “patriarchy”.

[@IHavent82Day]

And then she lies about it but is betrayed by her own language. “You say you feel as though you were discriminated against and I completely accept that.” Her use of the phrase “you feel you were discriminated against” is a subtle way of saying “that’s not what actually happened, but you felt it was.” Not to mention her condescending question “is that what you perceived, or did they actually tell you that?” Imagine if he’d said that to her.

[@wiseonwords]

Yes, I found it very strange when she seemed to doubt his account of what happened to him. I found it rather disgusting, in fact! The implicit assumption being that, because he's white and because he's Jewish, he couldn't possibly have been discriminated against.

[@Enhancedlies]

THIS IS IT

[@eleri7024]

You are also smug, dismissive about her experiences

[@sscarbyy4218]

“I don’t want anyone to give me a job because of a quota” “Let’s get rid of the quotas then” “Well no” What??? She argues for no DEI while saying she wants DEI? And then back tracking this makes no sense

[@royfr8136]

Exactly

[@royfr8136]

She's obviously ignoring his point because she knows she had nowhere to go - she went around and around.... a real shame the interviewer backed down .....Life is unfair for everyone but not everyone has something to blame or a card to play. White people get dumped and fired and unfairly treated by people - and that's called life.

[@ricochet2977]

If you keep moving the goalposts you’re going to score eventually.

[@mardyroux8136]

She has a low IQ.

[@loke1555]

here we have a man who belongs to a group of people who are fighting for their genetic right to a country and a lady who comes from Nigeria who thinks it is a sin not to see her countrymen on TV, radio, politics, etc. in England. but if a white English man says we don't want to be replaced by other peoples then he is racist and that there are no races but at the same time complains that she doesn't see her own people represented. Anglo-Saxons you should start standing up for yourselves. and can anyone tell me why diversity is a strength or point to a multicultural country that is more successful than non-diverse countries

[@pdstorytellingperformanced1441]

Her ego is out of control...

[@thatguy7-7-7]

The double standards of this woman, wow, anything to her is racist anything to him "are you sure"

[@purplehead9511]

It's very brave of her to come on and expose her staggering level of ineptitude

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

She regards it as excellence lol

[@mikegrace2819]

Completely incompetent idiots are drawn to DEI and Marxism like moths to a flame.

[@SEIKOAE86]

Haha absolute gold 😂

[@rosslogan4154]

She doesn't realise she's doing it. 😬 The complete lack of self awareness from her is staggering.

[@hebber1961]

She displays a person's ability to speak supersedes their ability to think.

[@stevenwright7290]

She's trying to argue the indefensible here... If black people are under-represented, it's racism, but if they're over-represented, it's through merit? Make it make sense!

[@baughjaughes5104]

She can’t make it make sense , because it’s nonsense

[@christyshka]

“It bad when racism towards me , it’s great when racism towards others. “ the logic of DEI . Don’t waste your time you won’t find any logic. Using logic it’s “white supremacy” by the way))

[@ivanlondon]

It depends if the stats he's quoting are really over a 15 year period or if they just take a sample now and then. Maybe it's in this particular moment that there are more BMA people on television

[@annmhmoore0771]

​@@ivanlondonIt's not about the stats. It's about the dollars. They are paid less to do the same job. That's what is going on here.

[@TinnyDee]

​@@annmhmoore0771they are paid less because they can't do the job as well.

[@MacKingG]

This is just painful to watch... the host, if he didn't hold back, could have dismantled every argument of hers.

[@yardgrid]

She keeps telling us how talented and clever she is and doesn't understand words like "representation" The fact that she thinks people don't think she played at the same level as Keane because she's a woman is mindblowing. There's 14 year old lads at academies who play at a better level than she ever did.

[@tehbakedpotato]

"I made an award winning documentary and the BBC wanted more of my ideas but only if presented by a minority." "What if that minority is just... better?" The blindness to her own bigotry is appalling. She has got to be the type to define racism = prejudice + power. The victim mentality is strong with this one.

[@JamesScholes]

She speaks like this because she lives in a ego chamber and her views and claims have not only been challenged but applauded. This is why she's so open with her bigotry, because she's never had push-back on her views before.

[@Sanctified57]

Agreed. This interview is painful to watch. Not only is she arrogant but she has this ingrained victim mentality despite her privileged life. I don’t know how Andrew put up with her. To flip off the actual statistics that white men are underrepresented in media with the statement “yet there are still more white men in the media” makes me suspect her university degree was probably not attained by merit. Her blindness to her own bigotry is a consequence of a constant drip feed of woke lies, and affirmation of a skewed narrative by her leftist peers.

[@AprHla]

​@@JamesScholes Ego chamber...LOVE IT!

[@mmelau-deladetesailleurs2001]

Yeah, blind bigotry or a plan?

[@user-gd3ln4dj1c]

Andrew is Jewish. Is that not a very very very small minority? He should be part of the minority groups!

[@hellsbells7271]

She's someone who really likes to play the victim, even when you explained to her that she is in fact, more privileged than you. She's got a brilliantly paid job, a great career, and yet you're the privileged one . Maybe she needs to look in the mirror to actually see who the privileged one is and who has been given brilliant opportunities.

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

If she equates black skin with disadvantage and white skin with privilege, then it doesn't matter how long she spends in front of the mirror - she's never going to see what's really there. These people don't value the truth. They value feeling morally superior, and that's exactly how their nonsense Left-Wing beliefs make them feel, so she's not going to drop her skin colour-based 'victim identity' any time soon. It's far too useful to her.

[@brianmeen2158]

She has no self awareness.. she isn’t going to believe Andrew’s data or his experiences but she expects him to believe hers.. ugh

[@ph8077]

You mean "an undeserved & ludicrously well-paid job?!

[@abdulbabatunde9151]

@@ph8077 why is it undeserved if i may ask

[@mrvoorhees2627]

She was genuinely blinkered when he said black people only represent 3% of the population and your overeprisented as a minority Her arguments where ridiculous I found her main argument to be only white people are racist and only black people have any talent

[@colinneilson2630]

she's not prepared for this discussion, she's just mouthing lazy platitudes

[@erica_ricky1234]

her attitude is literally "well ...who cares if you suffer unfairly while i benefit"

[@NippleKnight]

D.E.I. - Didn't Earn It

[@kiingjackoff]

that's brilliant!

[@psychodrilla]

Well stated - that mad me laugh! Diversity is code for back - whereupon they roll up late every day and go home before you! I've worked in town halls for nearly 40 years and now they are useless at everything.

[@BigAL0074]

She actually said it at one point.

[@davedanger7491]

Decision Exclusion Inequality

[@iconiclust]

Awesome 👍

[@MD-ww4bh]

She doesn't want equalty. She wants revenge.

[@gollick]

Yep. It's the elephant in the room. It's why she comes across as non committal- because she can't say what she really thinks Which is something like- fuck you whitey. People that looked like you made slaves of people like me and black men seem to find your women more attractive

[@gears8926]

DEI wants revenge but they disguise it as equality and then change de definition of equality to benefit them

[@thunderjoy7250]

And you dont equality...white people are seeing the tide turn just a little bit and they are throwing there toys out...oh well.. fairs fair 😂😂😂😂

[@Chechen-ExMuslims]

for what? That the West rescued Africa from Arab-Muslim enslavement which lasted until 1964?

[@user-ir5wq6db8e]

Her team mates ran over to the manager to support him because they all thought he was great. What really happened is that Eni got dropped from the team and out of spite went to the guardian with racism allegations (based on the ebola comment). The Guardian ran a hatchet piece on him and the FA every day until they sacked him. She's a dangerous woman.

[@damienjose5640]

People don't dislike Eni because of her skin colour or her gender. It's because she doesn't listen to logic and she's a bit of a nob

[@heldinahtmlhell]

I dislike her because she has a platform because of her skin colour and gender.

[@paulknaggs903]

I agree. She's just not a nice person.

[@amymellor8602]

😂 truth!! 🙏

[@LeMerch]

100%… plenty of black and white nobs on the internet these days.

[@BSFPC]

A bit? More like Grade A ocean going Knob.

[@mikeball4959]

How to make yourself look completely stupid in one lesson. The GREAT Serena Williams says she'd get battered in men's tennis... Eni Aluko ... "that's just her confidence in her ability, I could play in men's football" How the heck did she get a law degree? Wouldn't want her acting for me she changes argument mid-sentence

[@merlin_the_great]

You're approach to this challenging interview with a view different from your own is great. Much respect. This is how debates should happen

[@edwardkeirle4453]

Her father was a Nigerian MP. Her uncle was a chemistry professor. Privileged?

[@van7242]

😂😂😂

[@brianmeen2158]

Keep in mind she sees privilege only through the lens of race and gender - she probably wouldn’t even acknowledge class or zip code privilege. So yeah

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

Was going to say. This is why the USA University DEI are having issues, because DOS black kids for whom the DEI was formulated (descendants of slaves from impoverished backgrounds)are missing out to upper class, wealthy African kids.

[@ngutngut40]

Interesting she didn't mention her father's and uncle's professions. Just her mother's, being a cleaner. Yes her mother had a cultural background of working hard and instilling good work ethics etc. Into her daughter. Surprise surprise she followed suit.

[@ladylove3636]

​@@annabizaro-doo-dahit's always been the way. You get the same people just now they come in different colours. Only what makes this worse is their perpetual victimhood x

[@campbellthomson252]

Oh man, she was painful to listen to. Andrew was battling to get through an impenetrable barrier of ignorance.

[@juliechurley2716]

I think it’s bias rather than ignorance

[@JamesScholes]

It's easy to be ignorant when her career relies on it.

[@rickyl1985]

It was infuriating seeing Andrew continuously flatter Aluko's ego, and at the same time fail to call out many of the ignorant statements she made. The most galling was her assertion that there has been centuries of white supremacy in ANGLO SAXON Britain!

[@lexingtonconcord8751]

Look at the IQ bell curves between Europeans and Africans. It's explains much of the problem.

[@sunnyadams5842]

I think it's stupidity.

[@lyartbane2115]

I’m American and I just wanted to say that Basketball didn’t used to be predominantly Black. In fact they said it was “too white”. So Black people were brought in and then White people were largely pushed out. Also look at how Caitlyn Clark (women’s league) is being treated. She’s being discriminated against by Black players jealous of her talent. The same happened with American Football. You’ll be hard pressed to see more than one white player on each team. Whereas Football used to be predominantly White. They’re even saying the same things about Baseball. That it’s “too white”. If a sport is deemed “too white” it’s automatically assumed that people of color are being pushed out and discriminated against. Yet we’re told that it’s wrong to assume racism when a sport is dominated by people of color. How is that not a racist double standard ? People will say “oh but the owners and/or people doing the hiring are White”. As if white people are incapable of self hate. Especially in a cultural climate that is ever increasingly anti White.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Bingo.

[@adamhuxley4597]

It was very very hard and extremely frustrating listening to this woman. She clearly wants things both ways and cannot see from another person's prospective.

[@Goomba38]

Mostly racists call others racist

[@moonlightray8493]

The pot calling the kettle black (or maybe insufficiently black, in this current culture lol)

[@arcadealchemist]

the words lose meaning because they have been abused by weak people to gain power they have not earned created or deserve.

[@eleri7024]

Which makes you a racist

[@ToreDL87]

@@arcadealchemist Yeah I used to get shocked at a lot of the words thrown around like candy now (R4cist, N4zi, F4scist, B1got and so forth), now I don't even blink, completely desensitized to them because they've been overused to shut up normal people saying what everyone thinks.

[@BigAL0074]

She also appears to hate womens sport, I wonder how she would have felt to lose her England place to a man.

[@rationalbacon5872]

What a hateful young lady.

[@utopian2222]

A privileged hateful young lady to be 100% correct..

[@ph8077]

'Just been given an inch....& she's taking that mile!

[@sircxx8621]

Where? I don’t see any lady?

[@LivingTheBookofDisquiet]

Nothing hateful in her speech.

[@ToreDL87]

@@LivingTheBookofDisquiet You're right, hateful would imply someone who experienced something they could be allowed to hate. She's spoiled, plain and simple.

[@kevincleveland763]

I am a white American born into poverty in Appellatia and raised in the greater New York area. How dare she call me privileged! Eni Aluko’s parents, Gbenga and Sileola Aluko, were both well-educated and born into money and privilege. So Eni Aluko was also ordered privilege money, although I do not derate her hard work. However, she both had the quota system for being black and female and wealth and privilege behind her.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Why tf are you spelling Appalachia as Appellatia? You couldn’t possibly spell it any more wrong, and that was the place you were born? Lol.

[@giopizz]

That first point on board rooms - she says the problem is not the pitch, its in board rooms that BAME are excluded. Andrew come back that board rooms are 17% BAME versus 18% of general population which is representative. She then just waffles on about how talent should come first bla bla bla

[@gollick]

Key difference She resents him , downplays his achievements and doesn't believe him He does the opposite

[@steve10]

She has a problem with white men getting jobs over 100 years , yet Britain was 99% white 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ that's not privilege, that's just the country we lived in. Now we see black people becoming over represented getting the majority of jobs , to her they are the very best , which is obvious racism because it's presuming something based on colour rather than seeing the facts , because to her white people getting the jobs was privilege and not talent.

[@guy12327]

Yeah, it was painful to watch. Our culture bred contemptuous people like her. Despicable.

[@joshsalvidge9615]

She clearly doesn't see him as equal to her because he's white

[@cyclist68]

Spot on gollick

[@Gasser24769]

It’s all in her own head . Was since she was 5 years old by sounds of it . THERES NOTHING WE LOVE MORE THAN AN UNDERDOG AS WHITE MEN😂 , PERSONALLY , but when they pretend it turns into HATE cos I hateee her after this

[@lukesmith8813]

Genuinely painful to watch her go around in circles

[@wombatillo]

She seems to be completely indoctrinated in critical race theory, intersectionality, feminism, DEI and so on. You can see it in her talking points and the certain phrases she uses. If one takes all that at face value and forms ones identity around this tripe I completely understand how a person will turn out like this. When you believe in nonsense, you usually think and talk nonsense. She really doesn't know what she is talking about but she is utterly convinced that she does.

[@Kevin_Knox]

The strange thing is, I know spme otherwise really smart intelligent people that completely turn their brain off (seemingly) and eat this stuff up.

[@seekingthemiddleway4048]

Dunning-Kruger springs to mind.

[@Chezbythebay]

Oh my God she’s just moving the goal posts.

[@harrydavey9884]

She doesn't even know what she thinks. She goes back and forwards like 40 times in the first 10 minutes. I'm stopping watching. This content is poison, it just makes you angry at an idiot you've never met.

[@TwoLeftSh0es]

Nigeria has banned all foreign born actors and voice-over artists from appearing in their adverts.

[@TheAngmarwitch]

Toxic is the word that springs to mind every time I see or hear her name.

[@winnie796]

"For hundreds of years black people just didn't get the job!" she said..............Black people have not been in the UK for hundreds of years competing for jobs.......despite the BBC's attempt to rewrite British history.

[@85starsandthedeeampolice]

Well said!

[@soph1508]

Could I ask if you could elaborate, I feel like make I don't know enough about this? I agree with Andrew through this podcast but it was my understanding that black people have been in the UK for centuries. Maybe I am wrong, but what is the BBC trying to do?

[@ab-hx8qe]

@@soph1508immigration to the uk by people of African decent is a relatively new phenomena, they didn’t participate in the African slave trade and so any black people that where present where not a part of a mass immigration event. So while evidence exists that black people where around centuries ago the circumstances that brought them their wouldn’t be sufficient for any form of meaningful immigration.

[@chelfyn]

@@soph1508 yes, but in completely inconsequentail numbers until the last hundred years

[@eibhlinnichrualoai]

Exactly black can be easily replaced by Irish, or working class...as they have been in England for hundreds of years ❤️

[@fromchomleystreet]

“It’s racist to assume I only got the job because of DEI” “Without DEI, I wouldn’t have got the job” The same person says both these things, within moments of each other, and fails to spot the problem. Humans are amazing at suppressing cognitive dissonance, aren’t they.

[@christyshka]

We must abolish logic !) Logic = white supremacy 🤡

[@stephenoxf]

Please stop inviting incompetent people onto debates, we need a proper debate.

[@merlin_the_great]

The challenge is the more competent people on the 'other side' don't want to be interviewed by people who disagree with them. Being decent and fair (as I feel he was here, despite disagreements) helps to open the door for better people to come on and have a better dialogue

[@GGxSJ]

She completely ignored all the facts. She is shocking with her mind set.

[@Speckledhen09]

Completes her football career and then pulls the ladder up after her by saying she thinks men should be allowed to self-identify into the womens game. #shameful

[@Comical-Intellect]

I actually said to myself before she answered "Of course she's going to say yes, she doesn't play anymore, it won't be her sharing the pitch with men" Its satisfying to be correct but sad for the young female players which she should be supporting.

[@Uratube25]

@@Comical-Intellect Totally agree and she would be in the 7th division that is so delusional, a Texas under 15 yr old boys beat the womens national team in the USA

[@lolalouise9503]

Yeah, she sounds like Britain’s version of Rapinoe.

[@jamesulbot]

Exactly, he should have said, Erling Haaland is a woman tomorrow, you lose your place because he's better, she'd just accept that? Clueless

[@JAB941]

This!! What a hypocrite she is.

[@devonlonergan867]

Imagine thinking that constantly openly touting that "black people are just better" is normal, acceptable, sane, non-racist behavior, while making claims about "supremacy."

[@JohnMichaelBurns]

To be fair, the London Marathon was won by Ethiopian or Kenyan runners every single year for the last 20 years and it's kinda weird how there are never any elite black swimmers. I also don't think that men outnumber women in elite chess by like a 100:1 ratio for entirely sexist reasons. It's entirely reasonable to say that some races/sexes on average are just better than others at given tasks. Where her argument fell down is that we can see who the best chess players are, who the fastest runners are, who the best tennis player is, there's no subjectivity there, but that's completely different from the process by which people are chosen to read the evening news. We know blacks are superior or whites are superior in certain sports. We definitely don't know what process is being undertaken to choose who presents tv shows and even if we did it would be hard to place exact empirical metrics on them. I can tell you that Bolt ran .11 seconds faster than Gay or Blake. There's no way I can give you any kind of objective metric on how much better Fiona Bruce is than Naga Munchetty. In other words, under-representation in media is suspect in a way that under-representation in sports is not. It's fine to say "X race are better" in sport but dubious in less quantifiable careers like media.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

The level of entitlement on display is crazy.

[@yvonnesanders4308]

It's fine to say that they have certain advantages in sports....try and suggest the same link to IQ and watch them go mental

[@stevenwright7290]

​@@yvonnesanders4308100%

[@jackshepherd93]

Especially when black people only started being over represented due to actual policy’s making it so

[@dudiheadz]

I have stake in both sides of this topic. The truth as I see it is that Jobs should be given based on merit, not skin colour, however, without DEI policies, it’s incredibly common that recruitment sticks to ‘what they know’, and gatekeeping blocks a lot of people from those opportunities, often BAME and women. The question is how do you make people give everyone equal opportunity, without making it a policy?

[@cmjmc981]

Amen

[@adamhuxley4597]

Andrew, you have the patience of a saint. How did you not get angry with this obtuse woman? She was so self entitled and privileged it was mind blowing. Her arrogance was staggering. I really felt for you mate.

[@MrTangolizard]

As a 50 year old white man im still waiting for this privilege to kick in any day soon i will not be in a minimum wage job living on a council estate ,

[@hannahbaxter8825]

That's not what (white or any other) privilege is. It doesn't guarantee success it just means that you had a better chance . I'm not saying you did but your comment shows that you don't understand the premise of white privilege.

[@ramokhan7997]

cry me a river

[@MrTangolizard]

@@ramokhan7997 ha ha did I trigger u

[@nataliamundell6266]

Didn't you get your invite to the club in the post

[@ramokhan7997]

@@MrTangolizard yeah very much so. keep crying lol

[@tc98826]

"Its racist to think i got this job because of DEI" 2 minutes later "Its dangerous to assume Id have got this job without DEI"

[@garethparry6673]

I laughed at the part. The guy had her in a spin the entire interview.

[@LUFCWHITES11]

Exactly. As usual she's clueless He's being v nice cos he could end her career here

[@janeawdry8182]

Yeah well ‘X’ is definitely creating harm. It’s the forum that vile, intimidating, abusive TIMs choose to humiliate women. ‘Trans’ identifying males are ruining women’s sports, infiltrating women’s prisons & hospitals, bullying their way into women changing rooms & toilets & NOW they are pushing their fetish into schools in order to indoctrinate & groom children. And the parents seem happy that the state is now sanctioning the sexualisation of their kids. And now this woman appears to believe that these men actually ARE ‘transitioning’ just because they’re taking hormones & have added some tits on! Really??She may have studied law, but she hasn’t the most rudimentary idea about basic human biology ffs. ‘Trans’ identifying men have not ‘been through a lot’ in terms of trauma - they are led by their sexual instincts. Those instincts in every case are fetishist. And the worst of those will use their new-found freedoms to subjugate & humiliate women more & more. Only a man can call himself a ‘trans’ woman. A woman is just a woman. Notice there’s no prefix. Boundaries between the sexes exist for a reason & if the women supporting male intrusions in women’s sex-based rights claim that it comes from a ‘Kind’ place, they might want to take a long hard look at who it is they should ‘Be Kind’ to. Once they see what these men really are they will be ashamed of how they threw us under the bus. Until then, well done ladies - your status as Handmaidens to men is complete.

[@mattwhite2295]

She completely ignored Andrew's interjection of "Micah Richards and John Barnes" being sat next to her in the studio. She was overtly focused on "Gary Neville and Roy Keane" as white males...

[@simonclarke9254]

She keeps going on about being 'a black girl from Birmingham' and her tough upbringing. She went to a private all girls school and her dad was a politician in Nigeria. Hardly rags to riches. Even if she had grown up as hard up as shes trying to claim it's not the anomaly she tries to paint it as. Leo Messi and Ronaldo both come from poor backgrounds, as do 80% of footballers

[@user-mt8xk5zz7b]

The forever victim.🤮

[@Lollipop_Lexi]

This woman was consistently and in all areas “the best of her peer group” but she can’t make a logical argument, not contradict herself or accept another persons experience when she expects everyone to accept hers. What hubris.

[@paulatling8844]

She looks like she is in her thirties, But sounds like she is stuck as a two year old.

[@northernthrifter8817]

Unbelievable, he's not allowed to speak in a direct way either so the interview is lopsided before a word is said. She's deluded beyond belief.

[@puffdaddy69]

This woman is so naive, ignorant, and stupid all at the same time

[@JamDav1982]

She hammers home about how uniquely qualified she is in her 'peer group' then 5 minutes later she is not all that unique and has many very qualified friends.

[@danielbrown8146]

She actually doesn't have a clue what she is talking about. When he used the board room example she contradicted her entire previous argument. Absolutely clueless and just argues on emotions.

[@tristankerr3655]

She's also a woman so she has that going for her

[@Raidur7215]

He's probably the first person to disagree with her on any of this and actually making her think critically about what she believes. Not saying she actually did, but yeah.

[@Facts-Over-Feelings]

HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH TARIQ NASHEED OR OTHER REAL BLACK DEBATERS WITH A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE ON CACAZOID EUROPEAN RACIST GLOBAL WHITE SUPREMACY... YES....ALL THIS FAKE REVERSE RACISM IS NOTHING BUT EUROPEAN RACIST PROPAGANDA MEANT TO LOOK BENIN..... YOU PEOPLE CAUSE ALL THE PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE EARTH THEN PLAY THE VICTIM CARD.. JUST LIKE THAT STATE. WHATS IT CALLED.....NOW. HOW ALL THIS PROPAGANDA WORKS.......>>>FIRST.....>>>YOU FIND PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO ARTICULATE THERE POINT OF ISSUES AND INTERVIEW THEM WITH QUESTIONS MEANT SHOW THEM IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT TO HELP KEEP OR PROMOTE THE OTHER SIDES NARRATIVE.. THIS IS HOW SELF HATING SELLOUTS LIKE JESSE LEE PETERSON DOES THIS ON HIS SHOW WITH HIS EUROPEAN PAYMASTERS.. THIS IS A GLOBAL ANTI BLACK AGENDA TO MAINTAIN A STATUS QUO.

[@IvyAnnVanRooyen]

I know and I agree, but I do like her! And I have to believe that it might make her think a little on the subject. Perhaps I'm naive.

[@tubester4567]

She is 100% wrong about "there are no DEI quotas" Quotas have been in affect for decades, long before "DEI" and "woke" was even invented. Universities have been using quotas since the 1970's. US university intakes have been 50% women since around 1980, and 50% minority not long after. They also happen in many industries, government employment and corporations. They really need some DEI in Africa because they are the most conservative, patriarchal and oppressive in the world. Diversity for thee but not for me

[@ChattyCharliesLife]

I'm a first class student doing a Biochemistry degree. I applied for a placement and was rejected. I asked for feedback so I could improve for next time. I was told my application, interview and grades were perect, but didn't fit diversity numbers. It's a slap in the face and makes me not want to continue work hard when grades don't even matter anymore. DEI needs to be removed so everyone has a fair chance, based on merit.

[@user-mt8xk5zz7b]

Don't give up because of these ridiculous DEI policies. Keep on truckin'. God bless.

[@levis503]

As an American. I don't know much about this young women other than seeing her as a soccer analyst on tv. My thoughts on here as just a sports analyst. Is that she is terrible at her job. These are just my observations. From what I have seen of her in TV is that she is a DEI hire.

[@a.scoob2]

I’m a black man and I 100% agree with Andrew. DEI is only needed by those who can’t accomplish anything purely based on merit.

[@darrenalexander8304]

Lol these as a black man commentaries are hilarious.

[@Chris-oe4pj]

​@@darrenalexander8304 yes we don't know if the person you're responding to is a black man, but it's obvious there are black men who disagree with DEI. they'd even be more likely to come to this video and comment. I could point you to several YTers who are obviously black and obviously against DEI

[@paddyanglais91]

​@@darrenalexander8304NPC

[@alchapopapo]

How confused is she???? She didn't get the job because of DEI, but she needs DEI, so she keeps the job....?? Huh?!?! Make it make sense... Andrew agreeing w her that she got the job on merit.... but she doesn't want their points to align.......... it doesn't fit her narrative

[@brianmeen2158]

And no one will call her on her bullshit because she is black .. blame the white liberals for this

[@candace1023joym]

Was she saying - due to racism, even if she was very qualified she would not be hired?

[@alchapopapo]

@candace1023joym but she was hired based on being qualified, so her very existence in the role, and her belief on how she got there... totally negates her own point!!!

[@adamjackson6887]

I'm not saying she said this or even believes this, but I guess the most logical interpretation taking together everything she said was as follows: a. DEI isn't a prescriptive list of quotas it's just a way to educate people about their prejudices. The evidence for this being that the Equality Act 2010 doesn't say that you need quotas. b. Therefore there is a level playing field giving equality of opportunity not outcome, c. As such to assume (and it has to be an assumption based on the first two points) that she hasn't gotten or where any black person has gotten is by anything other than merit is racist. d. Although she therefore got selected because of her talent, she wouldn't have done had DEI not re-educated the people who were hiring her so they could see past their prejudices and see only her talent.

[@adamjackson6887]

The problem with this view is however: a. That there is no law stating quotas are required doesn't mean and isn't evidence they aren't being used. Most organisations can and will justify them as being a "proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim". This is the defence in the Equality Act 2010 to any charge of Direct Discrimination (treating soemone less favourably on the basis of a protectsd characteristic) under ss.13 of the Act. b. The philosophical basis for DEI is nonsense. Saying we are ruled by a "white patriarchy" as Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose and James Demore shiwed in cynical theories, is as discriminatory, horrid and innacurare as claiming we are run by a global network of Jews. This is before we even get into the postmodernist underpinnings of it. Moreover, DEI and the Equality Act 2010 (or other comparative legislation from other jurisdictions) are not, apart from in Canada where they are being embedded in law, the same thing. DEI is an industry based on a flawed ideology. The Equality Act 2010 was government legislation brought in to ensure level playing field and good working relations. In my view, it's well balanced and does not say or even imply anything that the DEI industry has layered on top of it in its policies. c. If people have unconscious bias (which she didn't say but she implied and is a central tenet of DEI), then it's not something they can do anything about given its...unconscious. If people hired her, then, assuming they have these prejudices, it was inspite of their prejudices not because they had been reeducated by a DEI officer.

[@Home8rew]

Grouping people together by ethnicity is daft since it makes an assumption that everyone within that group is equally disadvantaged when there are vast variations in income, occupation and connections. It makes more sense to group people according to social class and income as they’ll have similar needs and opportunities. Some sports are very expensive to get into - equestrian and motor racing spring to mind - where social class and income exclude most of the population regardless of your colour.

[@NoMiddleName2]

Saying that she has to do more to impress than Roy Keane and the rest of them. GIVE ME A BREAK! Of course you do, nobody knows who you are! And that’s not because of racism.

[@JesseStone-zv6zn]

She constantly contradicts herself and yet is somehow still incredibly smug. The irony.

[@lisamareepritchard6375]

Exactly ! On one hand she says she got her job because of DEI & the other was based on merit omg 🙄

[@TheThinker-ce5kq]

Lawyer talk.

[@Pneumanon]

The Dunning Kruger effect is a real thing.

[@vutsxx]

"The world is so mean to me, but Im so incredible, so smart, so much BETTER THAN YOU ALL, that im here and youre not." - this girl

[@frankystarrz]

I lived with a Jamaican family 5 years. The parents tell the kids White people are the cause of all they're problems. We are 'White Devils' ... EVERY FAMILY. the end

[@whereweregoingwedontneedey4374]

Possibly one of the most infuriating interviews I've ever seen. Great watching but man, my blood pressure is up and its not even 6am

[@iamwaterproof]

Assumption......its Assumption!!!

[@SlongiandStew]

How she finished top in her law school and can’t handle the basic arithmetic Andrew presented on TV representation; boggles my mind.

[@malakispanien]

Thanks to DEI, that’s how.

[@davidpennmiller354]

Yep, DEI to get in and DEI to be able to graduate.

[@cynicalbrit3339]

we all know the real reason she passed her exams

[@lokiopensloloc5680]

I suspect you don't need to be the best to come top but the most compliant.

[@samanthaorologio6866]

Or stats in general and the concept of them thereof 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

_"I didn't get this job because of DEI, but I wouldn't have this job if it weren't for DEI."_ What.

[@Pneumanon]

DEI doesn't exist. But we shouldn't get rid of it.

[@blubirdhill2608]

Cognitive dissonance is a way of life for these people. A calling, you might say 😂

[@nonbeliever3745]

‘I have amazing white male mentors who are still very dominant in their industries’ - well why wouldn’t they be? You just said they are amazing?

[@leskobrandon691]

"No one has said you have to hire x amount of black women & x amount of black men for this job & that job...it's just a myth." Rriightttt!

[@raymondswan97]

It's almost like she believes poor working class white people aren't also overlooked, that its specific and exclusive to black people. The issue isn't primarily racism, it's class and inequality that's holding people down. There a ton of people who could have made it but never got the opportunity. Its astonishing she thinks she's had a tough time when she's actually dripping in privilege herself.

[@chrisbfreelance]

She doesn't care, she is intellectually lazy and disingenuous, latched onto the quick and easy narrative.

[@laurenmacdonaldable]

Yes! If anything I’d have thought the class system/ wealth network was the issue in Britain historically.

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

@@laurenmacdonaldable it is, but since DEI is from America, it fits their circumstances. It's just all copy and paste, exactly like her answers.

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

That's because she does. Her religion tells her so.

[@markclans3284]

Everyone is overlooked all the way up - except the few at the top. Some great people don’t get where they should. You rarely know why - you get to decide what you think the reason is.

[@Tukulti-Ninurta]

I can’t quite believe I’ve managed to sit through all that. It was utterly absurd. You’re naive to assume I would’ve got here without DEI - but I want to make it absolutely clear that I got here without DEI. The world is not set up for people like me to succeed - but I have succeeded, which proves that it is indeed set up for people like me to succeed. She explains how people doubted that she had been a victim of racism then, unbelievably, she does exactly the same thing to Andrew suggesting that he had jumped to conclusions, maybe he was imagining it etc She then realises she’s been gaslighting him so she says she doesn’t want to engage in gaslighting and then goes on to engage in some more gaslighting. She then talks about basketball and chess, saying she’s fine with these activities being dominated by particular groups, contradicting everything she’s previously said about how underrepresentation of certain groups is proof of unfairness. She says that any discrimination white men are experiencing today is what black people have experienced in the past as if one injustice cancels out another. We need DEI because of patriarchy, but… when she sees three white men in the studio, she assumes it’s because they’ve got the job on merit i.e. not because of patriarchy. She says there has been an overcorrection, but actually she doesn’t think there’s been an overcorrection. She says what she thinks is expected of her on the trans issue. She is not savvy enough to realise that the tide has now turned on this question! In a few months, she’ll be saying that trans-women shouldn’t be allowed to compete in women’s sports and pretending that she’s always believed that. One obvious question that is never asked in this context is: why do we have women’s sport at all? Why don’t we have unisex sport? I hate the Americanism “people of colour“, but I love the fact that Andrew still uses the distinctively British past tense “earnt“ instead of “earned”. We need to preserve those past tense forms in “t” against the American linguistic invasion.

[@svengali5415]

great overview, thanks for your hard work 🙂... esp loved your point about the trans issue, which 100% reflected my own as i listened live

[@alltheeasynamesweregone]

Thank you for noting all these, I couldn't believe how many times she contradicted herself in often the same sentence.

[@mw56101]

She constantly contradicted herself, she doesn't have a clue.

[@iamacalmocean2080]

I agree. I’m trying to listen to her speaking and your comment made me feel sane again. There is no truth, just blatant insensible contradictions

[@FallenRobot]

Please pin this fabulous breakdown of her contradictions!

[@Mr710jk]

Oh dear Eni, oh dear. I'm afraid all you've done here is make yourself look like a fool. Also, there is no Z in assume so please stop saying it that way

[@user-mt8xk5zz7b]

That's why she plays footie and doesn't read the news.

[@tameturtle]

Wow this woman is soo rude I’m cringing listening to her rudeness. Belittling, but yet unable to grasp what you’re saying, and refusing to accept facts. Well done for keeping your cool with her, a you’re a true professional. The narcissism guy you interviewed before would have plenty to say about this unpleasant lady I’m sure. 👍🏻

[@markmoretti9122]

After seeing this woman talk how can you not believe she's a DEI hire?

[@SMacCuUladh]

Exactly, and calling anyone who can think a racist.

[@moelasses9189]

🖨️

[@veeganboy]

She said all the DEI buzzwords

[@user-nw3xc2tk6y]

agreed

[@davewalker3873]

Correct. She ticks two boxes for the price of one. Wasnt even a good female footballer. One of the worst pundits ever.

[@JamesBrewerDJ]

"When it benefits me its ok", "When it doesn't it's racist and unfair". Ah-huh, we see through you!

[@Cynnas]

Racial bias in business is bad. Racial bias mandated by law is good. Got it. The way she's dismissing or simply not believing his lived experience while insistindg her's is valid is quite telling.

[@niknakz4339]

A socialist cocktail phrases: privilege, patriarchy, black woman

[@PattisKarriereKarten]

😂😂😂😂 She uses EVERY SINGLE LINE from the Social Justice book 😂😂😂 It’s extremely predictable, Andrew had solid facts and arguments just in this clip alone! The only argument she brings forth is the „personal experience“ 😂 I admire your calm Andrew! These people are insufferable, always the same strawman arguments, no new thoughts or arguments whatsoever 🤦🏻‍♀️ Compare that to John McWhorter or Coleman Hughes.

[@honeybunch6473]

Coleman Hughes refreshing read 👍

[@alenaadamkova7617]

You too...because you dont bring new comment or idea about them too. so youa lso are not open-minded... I just try to use neutral look on what you say. Thye always this, and always this and never this and never this.

[@zeldagoblin]

It's nothing to do with openness of mind. The indoctrinated, inevitably, talk in the canonized terminology, the approved arguments, the sacred phrases. As an ex cult member, I can make the comparison very easily. An open mind may pick up on these patterns. I would say that denying that is not, in fact, open minded.

[@luke53285]

This is genuinely painful. Society is literally bending over backwards to her but she acts like she has to climb everest

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

Which is exactly what happens if you keep telling someone they are special they will believe it, she will never understand she isn't a victim of something

[@formulaic78]

A friend of mine started sending me stuff about rotherham grooming gangs and ESG a few years ago. As a proper leftie I brushed it off as conspiracy theorist / racist / right-wing nonsense, but he kept sending it and the more I read the more obvious it became that much of it was true. At this point I've even written a novel called Whitey (type Whitey Benjamin Wright on amazon) about DEI, trans, race, ESG, the whole lot. As my friend did to me I've also drip fed some of this stuff to my brother who again held out nobly until recently a young black woman, who he had complained about being pushy but inexperienced, was given a promotion ahead of him in a Canadian company. Now he's realised that the happy clappy progressive society being pushed down our throats is nothing but cultural engineering by a cohort of ideological activists who've managed to wield empathy with a sword.

[@luke53285]

@formulaic78 I had a similar story. I had tried to get into medical school for a long time. I spent a lot of money and time to try to get in. Eventually I made friends on an acceptance committee and had him review my application. I met all the standards and on paper I thought I looked great. He then said verbatim "those standards aren't for you". Since then I went on several interviews and even MMIs with other students who were woefully under qualified, but because they fit into the minority they got in and I was rejected or wait listed. I really didn't like saying it or even writing it out here, because I know how it sounds, but I've seen how these institutions in America treat people based on race, it's pernicious and evil.

[@formulaic78]

@@luke53285 I live in China and Chinese post grad students applying to US colleges have to write DEI statements about how they are basically not going to be racist. I used to be a proud leftist. I'm now a proud unaligned, aka a free thinker (a phrase progressives laughingly call a dog whistle!). One of my very socialist friends says none of this wokery has anything to do with leftism because it's not economically based; however, as I see it, most people on the left have bought into this stuff hook, line and sinker because it's based on empathy and they are too dim-witted (or lacking in conscientiousness as Jordan Peterson would say) to see the glaring flaws.

[@stevetennispro]

"Society is literally bending over backwards to her but she acts like she has to climb Everest" Society? Is he some famous British contortionist? Everest? Who is he? Some British gatekeeper? ;) Sorry/but not sorry... Monty Python, Ricky Gervais, and Jimmy Carr are my type of humor!

[@ladixon1978]

This was such an unfair fight. Its impossible to beat logic and truth with opinions and emotion. We need more debates like this. Respectful, inciteful and informative!

[@Islander5577]

I think her ego and arrogance transcends her ability to be transparent, honest and fair.

[@JulieK89]

the bloody audacity to say "dei is not about skin color" holy shit. she's twisting her brian into a pretzel real hard to make sense of what she wants to be right. (her victimhood)

[@royfr8136]

Yes, she knew that he had a great point and she had nowhere to go - she went around and around.... a real shame the interviewer backed down

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

DEI is institutionalized racism. That they don't see the irony, speaks volumes.

[@fgoogleinthea7475]

She's making a mint out of it, she's not pooping on that gravy train... also she's a diversity hire, did you expect intelligence?

[@BDub2024]

her talk about patriarchy when many men in England came from extremely poor working class background having to survive on no income and raise families of kids. Plus many from Ireland. Its extremely ignorant of her.

[@TomNoles007]

What did Brian do to deserve being twisted like a pretzel?! 😅

[@CommonPeepul]

Respect to Eni for coming on but the majority of her points were filled with hypocrisy and mental gymnastics.

[@jackninetynine5036]

Sprinkled with a bit of racism too

[@Suzanne291]

I don't think she can see it hear herself. .

[@CommonPeepul]

@@Suzanne291 It seems Andrew might be one of the few that can reach her, he's as close to her as you can get while using logic. He sounds like he even concedes somes points to bring her back and she's agreeing with him a lot, but when she realises that she pulls back. "You have to talk about your own experience, I have to talk about my own experience" Andrew tries to talk about his own experience and she questions it, when she does the same he has to except it. She got to where she is with hard work, on merit, without DEI, DEI does nothing but we still need to keep it? Difficult to watch at times.

[@user-nw3xc2tk6y]

I applied for a number of youth worker jobs at one time, really wanted the job, white, British female. Never got an interview. Applied for around the tenth time and out of frustration and to see whether it would make any difference, I ticked Asian female - same quals, same CV - and got offered an interview.

[@user-mt8xk5zz7b]

That's dispicible. You should have got a good solicitor.

[@RITA-gc2dv]

Jesus Christ! I’m from Sweden and all I can say after listening to this… it’s one of the most confusing debates I’ve ever heard. I cannot count the amount of time she spoke against her own arguments and thought one thing when it was in her favour, and the opposite when it wasn’t. I also asked myself several times if she was joining and unserious.

[@ninakamenic3679]

She just contradicts herself over and over. There's no need to try and prove her wrong - she's doing a brilliant job of it herself.

[@joshsalvidge9615]

I genuinely don't know what she's arguing for. It appears to be black supremacy.

[@Ericos007]

💯

[@Sanctified57]

“I don’t want to gaslight you Andrew” immediately after gaslighting him

[@stevetennispro]

She didn't want to. She needed to! Argumentation is obviously not her strong suit.

[@mywickedqueen3547]

She gaslit him the whole interview. People who play the race card like a victim when they’re Uber privileged often do. You say something they don’t agree with or that goes against their narrative and suddenly YOU’RE being racist. Like simply asking someone to follow rules or laws like the rest of decent society.

[@eleri7024]

Andy the host never provided evidence that he was rejected from being given the job because of his white skin. It was all assumptions and conjecture on his part. He provided no evidence from the recruiter to strengthen his claim that he was discriminated against.

[@sweetfreedom999]

Imagine being married to her. Overwhelming Narcissist vibes.

[@MonkehMike]

Yes exactly!

[@cyrilsmedia]

Interesting chat, but there's some conflating of individual vs. collective. I'm confused about his stance on DEI... is he calling out the individual by individual practice or making a sweeping statement about the collective practice?

[@johnking6067]

This is hilarious, no matter the metric this girl is never wrong, she's so insecure you can see it in real time, Andrew saying "maybe white people are just better in the boardroom" was the perfect thing to say because she used the same argument to justify her position as she had done previously to prove racism, this has turned into a popcorn situation.

[@simonjones4941]

The cognitive dissonance was truly something to behold..

[@clairelees6718]

Exactly . She just can’t be wrong . So is she ok if a grown man goes into a changing room with girls because it’s about what they ‘ feel’ they are . ??

[@cookiedoughdynamo2747]

The cognitive dissonance is staggering. She's all for individual truths until "your truth" starts colliding with "her truth". I've been into recruitment offices, the amount of time the term BAME comes up for preferential treatment is staggering. One thing I find borderline racist is that she can say white males have been over-represented in the past, but she'll happily make use of the opportunities afforded to her by it.

[@happinesstan]

I'd question whether she IS all for her truth. She said she can only talk about football, but avoided a question specifically on football, to talk about tennis.

[@Skeptique]

Her claims that "it's a myth" is total ignorance. Anyone who works for a global corporation knows that diversity hiring and promotion is mandatory. It started off as avoiding legal repercussions for discrimination and now it is necessary for ESG scores that affect stock prices. Nevermind the overwhelming social pressure to avoid any perception whatsoever of racism in order to keep or progress in your job. I am relieved to be 10 years from retirement and working from home because I can't imagine spending my entire working life walking on eggshells and being made to feel like I'm an unwanted invader in my own country. I look around me and see not one white face under the age of 45 and yet am forced to take diversity training like having white employees is a problem that needs to be overcome. These people won't be happy until white representation is zero.

[@chriswoodward2491]

She argues against her own point and contradicts herself so many times. She just doesn't get it 🙈

[@user-cn1qd4ev2y]

When she said Roy keane and Gary Neville and he casually chucked in a couple black pundits and she just said yeah and carried on withour realising he just destroyed her whole argument 😂 Proper donut this one.