"Complete And Utter LUNATIC!" Trans Athletes Debate Turns UGLY

In this fiery debate on women's sport, Piers Morgan brings James Barr, Esther Krakue, Tomi Lahren and Francesca Fiorentini onto the topic of trans athletes, ignited by the news that transgender sprinter Aayden Gallagher was booed for winning gold in the Oregon Girls 200m State Championships last week.
Esther and Tomi are indignant at what they see as males replacing females in women’s sport, while Francesca says she’s ‘embarrassed to be a woman’ when other women 'freak out' about trans athletes. The row boils over into an analysis of American Football player Harrison Butker, who used his address at Benedictine College to tell women that their most important title is homemaker.
00.00 - Introduction
00:33 - Piers Morgan's monologue
03.04 - Panel debates trans athletes
17.42 - Harrison Butker's speech
22.00 - Virtue-signalling in sports
29.50 - Will Trump get convicted?
32.39 - Elvis for sale?
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[@heybigbender]

James Barr is the most pointless panelist each and every time he's on.

[@MT-UK]

He’s there to just be the complete opposite of common sense 😂

[@pheonixblue01]

Unless the point is to be the most irritating caricature he can.

[@mcwalsh7]

100% Correct

[@christopheradderley6902]

Cheap window dressing 😂

[@MrNCurley]

No I hope Piers keeps inviting him on, his utter idiocy is hilarious 😂😂

[@avarion9538]

This Francesca is awful. Her whataboutism. Her ignorance. It's sickening.

[@angele6733]

That's all she does is to deflect the question and play victim just like that Tin Tin wannabe

[@kaygee2121]

@@angele6733She must not know what cheating is..

[@MrNCurley]

That’s how woke moralists operate. Notice how she deflected the question about women’s safety in their bathrooms and spaces, and immediately starts talking about how trans people will kill themselves? It’s emotional blackmail of the most vile and grotesque kind.

[@donhello7522]

i dont know who she is, but, i know she's hard to watch..unfunny and lacks any real insight on every subject...please stop having her on the show

[@valentinlageot4101]

I dislike her more than james barr

[@jani_jenai7463]

I am a woman. I worked endlessly on my sport in high school and college because it was my passion. If a male tried to compete against me, I would not only be deeply offended, but I would boycott at all costs. I’m sure my team members and surrounding teams, along with their families would feel the same. Women and men are different, what else is there to understand?

[@frankvids]

Anyone born a man should never compete against a woman. Period. Genetics are totally different.

[@mikedeezy]

Some people are just slow and or brainwashed. The things they eat, drink, watch. It all effects the children now and it’s been getting worse every year

[@gzilla0924]

supportin this

[@kittenwithagun]

Francesca says that us women make her feel embarassed to be a woman. But her behavior on this panel makes me feel embarassed to be an American. She was absolutely arrogant and unprofessional, not to mention downright ignorant. The only thing she was good at was beating around the bush and evading giving a straight answer.

[@Sami_Dal]

It’s ok, we all know that’s not an American thing, it’s an arrogance thing

[@edwardwilliamsii1480]

She doesn't have an athletic bone in her body! What does she care!

[@tomoneill9397]

The black lady here (Esther I think?) is just dropping bang on accurate truth bombs and it's great to see 👌🙌

[@normaarias4977]

Love Esther!! 🎉

[@thewatchtower8330]

Esther Krakau. Yeah, she’s great. If every “newcomer” (I don’t know if she is a newcomer, but anyway) was like her, there would not be a problem.

[@thewatchtower8330]

Esther Krakau. Yeah, she’s great. If every “newcomer” (I don’t know if she is a newcomer, but anyway) was like her, there would not be a problem.

[@graemeb209]

And she is also stunningly beautiful

[@thewatchtower8330]

@@graemeb209 A lot of black women are, from my point of view. She is also. Truly amazing.

[@Eizenz]

Francesca lost the plot. She is the epitome of brain washed.

[@TheBitBlock]

I think you need a brain to be brain washed.

[@adzm1987]

😂😂

[@13mrservon]

​@@TheBitBlockcorrect. She is missing the required equipment in that regard 😂

[@avarion9538]

@@13mrservon she was so open minded, it fell out 😂

[@KhomocKung]

Yes she is out of touch maybe she has secret 🤪

[@adrianrammirez]

The way Francesca treats Esther and Tomi is the reason why I roll my eyes when I hear women like her scream “believe/ support all women” “women should stick together”.🙄🙄🙄

[@joymatanga2314]

She was downright rude and condescending towards Esther....truly flying the flag high for the progressive movement!

[@82yadav]

Just have "Mens category", 'Womens category', and 'Trans category" in sports. All compete in their separate categories. Problem solved.

[@Tony-gi3qd]

Then they/them claim pay inequality.

[@Si-ns3wj]

They'd still moan and complain about some nonsense

[@skellytor8759]

bUt Wut AboOt DeR FeeWings 😢

[@JamesAltoonaPA]

@@Tony-gi3qd These **THEY/THEM** need to have actual doctor papers stating they having multiple personalities !

[@onceuponatime2129]

As a gay person I completely disagree with trans women competing against biological women. Its not transphobia. Its just science. We DON'T have the same biology.

[@berntbishop5098]

Thank you. Standing for women's rights.

[@tenzinlama6478]

Salute

[@ubroc]

Why isn't this a problem in mens sports?

[@crow1989]

​@@ubroc because they know they're not going to win against a man if they were biologically born a female. Simple.

[@Darkamiseh85]

"MOCKERY TO FAIRNESS" IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND

[@jamiestokes7037]

James Barr claiming Esther is causing him mental health issues... Then fat shames piers. He is one angry individual. Pathetic.

[@niramcharo]

I've understood something. These ppl's souls have cancer and that makes them hateful and stupid. I feel sorry for them. The only way of winning against them is winning them back... U can't erase their ideology and woke-belivies without teaching them and making them understand they're wrong. But how do you do that..

[@Locke350]

Also it’s shocking for age 21 (he mentioned this in a previous show), he looks like he is in his 30s.

[@d-darkness-within]

😮yoooooooooo

[@ultimatemagic2125]

He clearly hasnt taken it up the ass today and is grumpy.

[@ObsidianCrocodile]

No one can stand him, he’s just there to argue the point, and yes, he’s ALWAYS wrong 😑 and irritatingly self righteous 😖

[@switzjon8405]

The fact that WOMEN are championing this is just unbelievable.

[@KryptoCobra]

This to me is the Craziest part of all of it. This country was all about women's rights. Now women them selves are destroying that notion to support Trans men to compete with women. Seriously W.T.F. is going on!!!

[@kimmartin2598]

When she said “you can all be mentally unwell together” 🤣🤣🤣🤣mic drop lmao

[@PhillyJohnny]

I couldn’t possibly agree with Piers more in this argument. This is a joke and a crime against women.

[@avarion9538]

imo it's fraud

[@stourn2399]

yet many women soppurt'em...

[@wekurtz72]

@@stourn2399 Exactly. The majority of women are in favour of this and there's no danger of trans-men interfering in real sports, so let the babies have their bottle.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If Christianity forbids Homosexuality ▪︎If a State (Govt/Clergy) approve Same Sex marriage ▪︎Christian State or Anti-Christ State?

[@brookessoap]

Perhaps agreed………YET…. a further joke is that he invites on a Trump supporter to talk about her ‘fears for womens’ safety!!……..are you actually kidding me Piers!! Geesus! Now THAT’S effed up!

[@Right_Direction_]

Can you please stop having James Barr on. For the love of humanity.

[@amgb8252]

Nah please do. He shows perfectly well how insane people who support this are

[@Gavsy1874]

Nah. Every time he’s on he proves how much of an idiot he is. He must walk around being offended all day. What an absolute moron 😂

[@Elementalhandle0000]

James Barr has never once said anything of substance on this show. There are so many people from the queer community who are capable of eloquently and powerfully defending their rights and beliefs. James has never been that person.

[@Empathusiast]

I find him hilarious to watch though his little angry outbursts and the twisted faces he makes you can see when he's building up to an outburst it's hilarious come on 😂

[@eyeswideopen4207]

Keep him on!!! We need something to laugh at 😂😂😂

[@Daniel-ur3mw]

I don't know who Francesca is but I know I don't want to ever see her again. She's awful

[@mattscottie7131]

Glad to see 3 people here have functioning brains.

[@microwavedsalad893]

I'm convinced that Piers only invites James on the panel to fill an "idiot quota."

[@waldemarmarwalde6817]

Well the easiest way to win a debate is debating with an idiot. Is it not?

[@hitman19901990]

@@waldemarmarwalde6817 debating an idiot is the hardest debate there is

[@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt]

lol exactly

[@waldemarmarwalde6817]

@@hitman19901990 Only if you have the ambition to convince the idiot. Not if you just want to make the idiot look like an idiot

[@tharollo_sea]

😂😂

[@jentbotbfa]

Please don’t have that Francesca woman on again. What a joke.

[@ElNadaInLada]

This whole topic is a joke. In 50 years people will make fun about the 2020s where women's rights were not only destroyed, - people even unlearned to identify what a woman is. This is some biblical golden calf stuff

[@robbosturko]

Nah, keep having her on. The general tide is turning because people see how those people act and they steer clear of them so we need more of them to be dressed down in public!(figuratively of course, not literally, ...gross)

[@nonyabusiness31]

Shes so pretty though, I can change her.

[@detrockcity3]

boorish women are a bit of a type in the coastal regions these days

[@HiHi7530]

Whenever she's on she spews garbage

[@susie1311]

Say Goodbye to America. We are finished

[@graceshotshorts5501]

😂😂

[@paolafresan6630]

We are living in a South Park episode with this.

[@michaelschneider9305]

You conservative?

[@emeerdanvers8090]

@@michaelschneider9305are you a liberal stooge

[@niuginiannative5517]

We women don't claim Francesca 🗑️

[@yaronnagauker305]

The absurdity that she works at Al Jazeera

[@lunarbaby3]

@@yaronnagauker305oh please no!! 😮Really? ..We are screwed

[@ahmednaimat7803]

@@yaronnagauker305 she's not don't lie

[@jjw4720]

despise handmaidens, literally the worst of the worst virtue signalers

[@Sandy-of6gq]

For starters she knows nothing about physiology and biology so her arguments are 🗑

[@Emmerica123]

Go Esther....Thank you for fighting for women....we love you👍💪💪💪

[@nickwiener8729]

Esther is by far my favorite guest. Love Esther

[@Blondecountrygirl]

Love Esther and Tomi Lahren!

[@MohammedHussain-lb6nw]

Exactly

[@nellamarytin234]

She is fierce and right. Beautiful and clever.

[@Shandyboy8612]

She’s a legend!

[@Lhm515]

it makes me so mad as a female athlete to see francesca trying to speak for all women when she has obviously never competed in women’s sports. the ONLY WOMEN who should be able to debate biological men competing against women are female athletes, not random women who don’t have a real perspective on what it would mean to compete against a man

[@aaronsanchez3141]

America is a disgusting place to live in now.

[@KryptoCobra]

The stupidity is astonishing it really is.

[@harlanjohnson969]

Why don't trans have their own leagues and compete against trans!!!!!

[@NWO_Rebel]

Exactly!!!!

[@Rosko3333]

Why? Because they would receive 0 interest and acknowledgement.After all isn’t it really all about LOOK AT ME!!!

[@ibrahimaltamery9921]

Hahah, again they need to be separated to two groups (trans-men competitions) and (trans-women competitions) 😂😂. Back to origin baby 🔙

[@steven5096]

Because nobody would watch them

[@jamezkpal2361]

Are there even enough trans athletes to form a league?

[@mariohaji]

Francesca says "don't speak on behalf of all women".... she proceeds to speak on behalf of all trans people 😂😂😂

[@wokeisajoke6806]

Exactly. Totally clueless.

[@stephaniehampton3525]

I can't believe we are actually talking about people being able to change their sex on a whim??? This trans crap is to destroy our American society by Globalists!! Wake up America!!

[@cd2ogz1]

str8 up Ludacris

[@ashleyobrien4937]

@@wokeisajoke6806 she made a complete ass out of herself...

[@bzibubabbzibubab420]

its the hardest arguing against stvpid people

[@bertdejesus3578]

Whoever that woman is in Blue on the far rigth..... is so pathetic as she just throw the long march that women did to get their WOMEN'S RIGHTS!!!!. She must go back to the day of these women's rights movements.

[@wayne9080]

There is no such thing as trans! Why? Because people can't transition!!!

[@Blondecountrygirl]

James and Francesca’s arguments are furthermore proving their Idiocracy.

[@Matt-zx1fh]

James maybe but Fran Fran is always on point. You're just not the sharpest pencil out there

[@maekklyn]

I thought Francesca was a trans woman when I first saw her lol

[@sebb1511]

Francesca thinks Mike Tyson should be allowed to beat the shit out of all female boxers on pay per view. What an absolute maniac - let her ideas rot

[@theresas2520]

​@@Matt-zx1fh On point with the typical woke ideology. She's clearly delusional.

[@HangingDong]

@@Matt-zx1fhHow is anything she said on point you soft little wet?

[@jonl2938]

Francesca and James are insufferable. Please, please stop having James on.

[@jemgeach4066]

Mr. Morgan has Mr. Burr on because he is a NCP cosplaying a lberal imbecile

[@alexanderbrown8498]

I actually wouldn't want them to stop bringing James on because it's so hilarious watching him embarrass himself every week. Imarn Ayton on the other hand, I hope they never bring her back on the show.

[@gantz0949]

Yea u need a good villian to make a good movie. Otherwise it's boring

[@Jamedia66]

All liberals are

[@truthpanda1966]

@@gantz0949 so just get an wcho chamber? he adds contrast, duhh.

[@kendalladaramola]

Proud of the black lady. She is smart as fuck! ❤

[@dondamon4669]

What has her being black got to do with anything? And she's saying what 99% people think

[@pinkpeonyy]

Does Francesca notice that transmen are not having the same experience????????? She is so crazy

[@DonGrigorianFishing]

I’m a simple man…I see James Barr I put a thumbs down 👎🏻

[@GavinCee]

He's such a helmet 🤣

[@MrMonk112]

We are in agreement with you being simple lol

[@jonnytaylor9852]

I see james barr i stick pens in my f ing eyes

[@austintrimm1482]

I see him and like the video because I enjoy Barr's humiliation fetish.

[@HeraldTheGoodNews]

He and the other woman are so dumb

[@nhronin]

The fact there are no trans men playing in men’s pro sports should tell us all we need to know about this argument.

[@skacel7]

Nailed it.

[@ChrisS-nj3ye]

Exactly.

[@phillyphan1225]

You mean the fact no women want to play in men’s sports😅

[@tsukaime3235]

Nono, let's be honest, there was that one MMA fighter that competed against a dude.... and got dismanteled in the ring and never returned :(

[@Pipervojta]

There are, but they're not outperforming the other men. I wonder why...

[@kanishamacleod918]

Thank you Esther!!!!❤

[@BlockStarsPodcast]

You can always tell the least experienced and unqualified people on a panel. They're continuously messing with and touching their microphone or headphones and huffing and puffing while other people speak. The lady all the way on the right with the bad lighting pandering to the LGBT shouldn't have been there AT ALL. Very silly woman.

[@impartialinterest]

the little gay man is getting tedious, I don't even think he believes his own arguments, he just loves being on camera and that is why he does this. Piers should axe him and he can go back to hairdressing or whatever he does for a day job. i'm over it.

[@xavierlee99]

Can't stand that gay dude

[@ghostpiratelechuck2259]

Piers keeps him around to sound smarter, of course he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. It’s a character piers pays him to do.

[@CaraDees]

@@ghostpiratelechuck2259 100% correct, just nonsense to aggravate people and a way to keep both sides watching.

[@ollybreh95]

He doesn’t have arguments he just states how disgusted he is.

[@markpalmer8083]

As a gay man I agree with you but don't f-ing insult other gay people because of his nauseating personally and ridiculous arguments and your clear homophobia. Go and listen to Douglas Murray and David Starkey.

[@MemphisDC]

I have a 7 year old and 3 year old and i ABSOLUTELY would not be proud if my son won any medals competing against girls

[@NWO_Rebel]

100%

[@joeyh3167]

You mean, not even cooking competition ?

[@DaniDuer]

Exactly! I have THREE sons and if they ever came to me and say something like “I beat Sally in a swimming race!” I would be like “so what? Go race Billy and see how you do. If you beat him, than that’s awesome!”

[@niceglass3551]

@@joeyh3167Are you implying that you think women are better cooks? Because like all the top chefs are men.

[@grizzly--4607]

My son or daughter will never become trans living under me but when they get older and move out and then they decide to become trans then they will no longer be my son or daughter

[@jeffreywood6188]

Is James Barr invited onto the panel because he is happy to display an almost pathological stupidity to entertain us .? Each time he manages to redefine the lowest levels of achievable idiocy .

[@ak3nodxd674]

Yeah he is like a comical relief😅

[@TeoGrehan]

MOST people who want trans athletes in have never ever played a sport in their lives. They don't know what it's like to work and train to get to that level. More so they refuse to believe the differences between men and women. Personally I believe if you want to transition at 18, go for it. But sport isn't something you get to do. You can't do a Leah Thomas where you're below average as a male but elite against women. It's messed up.

[@robertulloa9570]

Francesca Fiorentini is delusional.

[@valkyrafe]

James is more repulsive shameful. Too much platform for him by Piers

[@xKarenWalkerx]

Still don't know if she's a trans...?

[@milagrosroman2882]

she is getting paid

[@mickeyandres2651]

She is a low grade agitator, just like James

[@azzajames7661]

​@@milagrosroman2882Paid to be delusional?!

[@user-ws2bc8si9i]

Arguing with a smart person is difficult. Arguing with stupid people is utterly impossible.

[@MrEdwhat]

Facts🎉

[@davidsobel6841]

James Barr is an idiot

[@lightinferno4490]

When arguing with a fool, onlookers won't know who's who.... Except in this case lol

[@reallynow6276]

That everyone's opininion.

[@timm2942]

Well spoken

[@jdawg3873]

The girl on the far right of the panel is just about as ignorant as they get.. wow

[@anukajerry8246]

Imagine as woman defending men competing with women

[@just_norma7]

Omg Francesca is so obnoxious and arrogant!!! James frustrates me to no end. Go Esther and Tomi, two beautiful, intelligent women with common sense!

[@premierlitnant1570]

It's the point !! They are both professional provocateurs after all.

[@503sld]

Pretty amazing that someone think Tomi Lahren is an intelligent person!!!!

[@optiphy9529]

Still a ten

[@slavax7096]

@@optiphy9529💯

[@slavax7096]

Francesca>Esther>Tomi

[@noam2315]

And yet zero transmen winning in male sports! Zero! I wonder why

[@KrisD007]

Amen! There’s a reason we have separate men and women’s sports. NO ONE ever mentions this. Ask the pro trans why there is a separation. I want to hear them answer. That’s not why men’s and women’s teams were split up.

[@hellabella8295]

Don’t bother with common sense or reality.. we live in fantasy land now..

[@DisenfranchisedLiberal]

Duh. Trans-men can't compete against biological men. There's only a debate on the women's side because they're a traditionally disenfranchised group that don't seem keen on standing up for themselves. The irony is women, in this instance, are standing up for men playing costume. Feminism has taken a strange turn.

[@kenl3805]

Well, there is Patricio Manuel but I can't say I know of any others and his career is quite early as far as boxing goes. Every once in awhile, you'll come across a woman you just don't want to mess with. I met one like that on a construction site I worked with. She was probably one of the strongest people I have ever known. Man, she was burly. As rare as those women are, I could see them competing in men's sports, especially combat related sports. That being said I don't think those rare instances justify trans women being in women's sports.

[@Jonthachamp]

And you don't hear men crying about it

[@Si-ns3wj]

The fact they are even debating this is ridiculous

[@wito6998]

It’s hard to believe we are having this discussion when we are on the brink of widened wars breaking out in multiple conflict areas.

[@chriso1626]

These “trans” activists are completely nuts🤦‍♂️

[@tonymoruzzi]

Agreed but it shouldn’t be anything to do with left or right politics

[@amitr4385]

trans activites and nuts is repetition

[@Kane614]

Francesca should come with a safety warning. She almost gave me brain rot 🤯

[@aterlycan]

no one would want to come close enough to put a warning on this women

[@maralboyrazian1948]

Thanks Piers for providing an opportunity for such a good debate.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🌹

[@MS-ey3lb]

Is Francesca an athlete? Seriously. If she is not ..then how does she have any ground to stand on....to say it's not a big deal....what about the girl getting up in the morning and putting in the hard work? Only to have someone come and take it because there physiologically stronger

[@patricialin9045]

Francesca's whataboutisms are so cringe. She cannot answer a straight question without them because even she knows how nonsensical this is.

[@boxerann]

Where does Piers find these idiots? James and Francesca should never be given airtime

[@marzipanmonkey]

They're both utterly delusional!

[@antoniajane5442]

Agree

[@Rach23.x]

Agree

[@strongman914]

Uh give them more airtime.. a lot of people don’t know clowns like this actually exist until they see this plus it’s quality entertainment

[@JWMB123]

Correct word "air"

[@mundaneeye]

Francesca in this debate said she was against bullying, yet call all women "whiners" for not wanting men to invade their spaces. While Esther was destroying her arguments, she could not bounce back with a response, calling her "lady." She definitely does not speak for women and should never try to pretend to be a righteous activist when all she does is argue so immaturely, it's embarrassing.

[@standepain]

I will never understand how this is even a debate.

[@jakjones8680]

As a Black Man I totally agree with conservatives on this issue! No man should compete against women.

[@fllf3078]

What is a woman

[@akingn8858]

​@@fllf3078a cook and a cleaner

[@jakjones8680]

@@fllf3078 a person who’s capable of giving birth to children! The lady who raised you.

[@jakjones8680]

@@akingn8858 damn homie is that how you look at your mother or daughter?

[@akingn8858]

@@jakjones8680 don't have a daughter and idk my mother i grew up in an orphanage

[@HonestHans4]

I’m a gay man and I support the right of the soccer player to not wear a rainbow jersey or whatever. To compel him to do so might actually cause him to be MORE against homosexuality.

[@leona369]

I don't think people are against homosexuality I don't think that's what people are upset about I think what they're upset about is the other rest of the alphabet TQ plus plus plus plus, I think the gays have accomplished amazing accomplishments, it was decades worth of hard work blood sweat tears and heartache, just to have some t Q plus plus plus plus plus people pull the rug right out from under all that hard work it's absolutely important and I think that we honestly need to separate ourselves from all of this, I know a lot of trans women and they want nothing to do with this and that is like 6 6 and I know they don't want anything to do with those people they think they're freaking crazy, so we need to start speaking up for what is right and I think it's leave the f****** kids alone leave women sports alone and stay out of our f****** washrooms, people think oh transgender okay so we're going to have women like Blair and Jenner when that's not the case there's some really gross disgusting men coming into women's washrooms and making people feel uncomfortable

[@Craigers8637]

I'm not against homosexuality at all, Im just not into rainbow jerseys

[@harleyhendrix8467]

I'm not against gays or their lifestyles and I'm not against them wanting to play sports ...but I'm against them being born a male and waking up one day claiming they are women and jumping into the women's sports like they have been a women the whole time ... If Trans men or women want to play whatever sports then they need to get together and make up their own teams ......and go play each other

[@davew8694]

As a conservative straight white man I support you to be gay and happy.

[@ollybreh95]

@@davew8694thanks for your contribution

[@justinejustice_league1857]

Francesca telling Esther to shut up and called her "lady". Rude... I dont see a transman going up against Floyd Mayweather. This is obviously male to female (transwomen) dominating in women's sports.

[@NeoGeoFitness]

It's sad that these kinds of conversations are being had about other's lives. What I mean is that they're name calling, cutting each other off and insulting each other and there's no way we can have a true understanding and perhaps a solution under these circumstances.

[@manuelamamic8096]

I feel sorry for James Barr and Francesca. It is so sad to listen to them. Rude, pointless, delusional, agressive.

[@Bear15780]

Yeah, they are a bunch of idiots

[@Michael-kf7gm]

I think they’re hilarious and correct. Time will show them on the right side of history. It’s not the 1700’s anymore.

[@jeninaverse]

They are entrenched in their own stubborness and are deaf to the voice of their common sense. They have confused their common sense with their mainstream media indoctrination and therefore are always in Conflict with Themselves!! 😔

[@undercoveragent9889]

@@Michael-kf7gm Yup. Women's sport is lame. Let get women out of sport altogether.

[@user-ew8ys3ry3x]

Aggressive? That black lady was unhinged asf

[@christianyanga5992]

Silliest debate.Trans should compete with trans.End of the story.

[@peterbolton7808]

I agree trans against trans as a separate sport....I can tell you who would win....Trans MEN

[@Enarusai]

I really don’t understand why they can’t just have another lane in sports for trans people. Just add a category for trans men and trans women. Everybody’s happy.

[@shaniquajohnson9490]

The unfortunate reason why this ideology is, it would out them as trans and they don’t want that. They want to live a lie. Sad.

[@fer11944]

@@Enarusai Social Engineering. Create problem. Distract population with said problem. Let the elites runk amuck while everyone is fighting each other. Oldest trick in the book and works everytime. If they simply create another lane for trans what would happen is that we wouldn't get the debates we are seeing now. And on top of that, the ratings on trans sports would be so low it would shed light on the scam.

[@bigjon7894]

they'd stop competing if there was an equal playing field

[@martindrengenxbox360]

I just noticed an incredible amount of hypocrisy at 20:35 - 21:00 "He has a responsibility!" Then 10 seconds later, "how dare you tell people what to do?" That little gay dude is so frustratingly stupid.

[@CleveMuggleton-it3ro]

Him and Francesca both condemn French player not displaying no homophobia message and rainbow flag because it is against his culture and religion, yet would defend his right to block any messaging alcohol on his kit due to same cultural and religious views. Talk of hypocrisy

[@MrMGD81]

This is good entertainment for us normal people that know that the grass is green to the people that say it’s blue! 😂😂

[@queenoftangledyarn]

When my daughter was a teenager, she came home crying because she tried to break up with her boyfriend and he was threatening to kill himself if she left him. I told her what I want to tell Fransesca, she is not responsible for his life, if he wants to harm himself, he needs help but it's not her responsibility. Women and girls are not responsible for trans suicides. Women and girls do not have to give up their own rights to prevent someone else from harming themselves.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Nicely put! Thank you for your insight ❤

[@sashaenglish2755]

Thank you ❤

[@megandenison6593]

Absolutely!

[@Olphoracaca]

The bigger picture is that trans discussion in women's sports lead to incredible amounts of bullying, which sadly leads to suicide much too often. Francesca is, in her own view, fighting for what she thinks is a much bigger concern than sports. I personally also believe that no one is responsible for someone's suicide, even bullies, but the statistics are way too clear on the issue. When a trans teenager sees Francesca defending her unconditionally, it might flip just the switch over. Things like this can make the difference.

[@MsLadyportia]

@@Olphoracaca which study, that keeps being referenced, and a recent one shows the quantitative study with the result that trans suicide more than other groups?

[@MarkieMark81]

It’s funny how Francesca says “don’t speak for me don’t speak for all women” and then immediately starts trying to speak for “all parents with a transgender child”. She speaks for all women all the time. Hypocrisy at its finest.

[@ReggieK-hn1uy]

And Quoted Melania Trump as some sort of wise savant, hahahahaha. Embarrassing, she is so desperate to tick a box.

[@FRJ9462]

She also said don't bully but immediately was calling everyone who disagreed idiots.

[@stephenpointer9130]

These people are so confused..

[@ryandeetlefs1578]

I can't believe in this day and age we are having this debate 😂😂😂 the movie Idiocracy was a prophecy

[@elliewillow4556]

I am a woman. My mother threw me in the pool when I was 6 months old. I started competing at 5 years old. I did online school and swam 4-5 hours and did dry land at least 2. I was more committed to completing than most are to anything. I gave my entire life to swim and diving. My mental state was focused on the end goal of placing gold. At age 14 I was faced with the end of my career based upon a genetic illness taking my mobility. I retired in 2011 when we had rules on competition and sportsmanship. I am beyond grateful to be able to compete in the sport when it was held to the highest standards possible.

[@majoeonline01]

Why not just create your own trans competition instead of creating confusion. This is sickening

[@brocklightning]

Yup!!!

[@zack.dar40]

Sorry, That would make too much sense.

[@tonilujan6662]

Exactly

[@JayJay-TheFlash]

That is exactly what I always say, then it stays fair.

[@Woj8ech]

BlackRock don't want to. To rule there must be divisions

[@neilt1524]

Francesca says .. "please don't speak for me, please don't speak for all women" and then goes on to speak on behalf of all transgender athletes. How hypocritical

[@ferrumignis]

Hypocrisy and double standards are some of the best qualities these people have...

[@savannah505]

@@ferrumignis True, their worst is really disgusting.

[@ellensmith7995]

She is totally wrong and I don't feel pathetic. You are the pathetic one for supporting this Trans bullsh....

[@keeknee]

No just transgender athletes but women too.

[@CleveMuggleton-it3ro]

Exactly - why then does she defend Trans people using restrooms etc saying it is okay - is that not speaking on behalf of me and others who disagree

[@teeetekkr3xx]

The first 3 are in the same room right next to each other and talking and screaming like they are in different studios 😂😂😂

[@drjethrowski1225]

I would love to see a panel of the parents of this group. THAT would tell the tale.

[@jrelevates1574]

Sticking a feather in your butt does not make you a chicken.

[@evagal]

😅

[@michaelamanek8908]

Hahahahahahahahaha

[@Kiefsti]

......stealing this 🤣🤣🤣

[@nirrofe5989]

😂

[@haroldjohn2273]

Oh no, u giving them idea's 😭

[@TeamAA1715]

James and Francesca have successfully made me lose brain cells during this panel discussion.

[@darrenasquith1170]

They haven't helped the gay or trans community one bit. Coming across as an emotionally unstable panel commentator isn't a great look

[@Michael-kf7gm]

To be fair, I’m guessing many of those brain cells were already lost.

[@TeamAA1715]

@@Michael-kf7gm hahaha you must be James Lover please report to the nearest rainbow

[@Michael-kf7gm]

@@TeamAA1715 No, I’m a Francesca lover. She’s my absolute favorite political commentator. You’re welcome to make fun of LGBT people if that reinforces your false sense of superiority.

[@Michael-kf7gm]

@@TeamAA1715 At the end of the day, I’m a white male, so I’ll be just fine, regardless of how this issue pans out.

[@stan2189]

Give them what they want... Then all women will be watching what they used to have

[@fauxvirtue]

Arguing that women don't get paid enough and then literally having men taking opportunities away from women is mind-boggling

[@nickweisz8555]

They dont get paid same cause they do not bring in the same behind the gate.

[@sophietemple2728]

Oh hahaha I hadn’t thought of that.

[@aviolet3981]

Yeah but people would start watching if it’s full of trans women… for a while til they got bored.

[@jefferybrockman3252]

It’s the democrats plan.. they say equal rights for women.. then promote transgender participation in women sports.. pandering as usual

[@Amanda-xx7sj]

They make the same deflection when taking about transferring violent male offenders into female prisons. “But what about the prison guards that rape females prisoners?” So the solution to that is to put MORE men in their spaces? Makes no sense.

[@mannysynth1664]

Dear Pierce, you should stop inviting James Barr. He's useless and only makes fun of your appearance.

[@cfowler7936]

Him squirming is hilarious 😂

[@tracyallen7020]

James a comedian...as funny as a case of the clap and hemorrhoids.

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

They have to tick a box to stay off Ofcom's radar 🤷‍♂️

[@ashleyc506]

I’m sure he’s hired specifically to ridicule him.

[@pdhps6407]

I think hes been used as a buttplug too many times. Just look at his resting face

[@erronbrown2690]

The very last segment about burying on your property is why I’m happy I’m Jamaican because we can actually own our own house and property without 300 years of MORTGAGE

[@AellaMaude-oy9qn]

Francesca's only debate is shouting "shut up Esther, shut up". What an incredibly rude woman FF is!

[@vivianchairez955]

Doesn’t gay James get tired of making a fool of himself on Pierce show😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@diehard01]

If she could learn to speak in turn, she wouldn't need to be told to shut up.

[@chumamakasi6682]

I guess Esther really got under her skin so very badly.

[@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV]

That delivery was funny though

[@savannah505]

@@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV How is being rude funny?? Francesca's can't shut up when she doesn't like someones point of view.

[@reyasaint]

The most remarkable part of this is that James Barr repeatedly appears on this show and has not grown as a person at all, yet appears increasingly more proud of that. Fascinating.

[@george2009town]

If he were a woman he’d be irrelevant, actually he is irrelevant anyway

[@karahupp4589]

Yes to this. I hadn’t thought about it in those terms, but you are exactly right. It’s the exact same thing from him every time we see him. His demeanor just reeks of misery and hatred, yet he is insistent that it’s everyone else on the panels who are filled with hate, unless of course they agree with him. He has no depth whatsoever, and will refuse to answer questions that require any real conviction or courage. And apparently he is supposed to be a comedian. How is that even possible? Most comedians are fairly intelligent, quick witted and generally have a sense of humor.

[@rip8564]

The fact that happened in Oregon is amazing. That’s one of the most liberal states in the US. People are finally waking up to this insanity.

[@misse-ct7mu]

I am old enough to remember that Poppies are for remembrance, “lest we forget” the human cost of war, on all sides.

[@sandrajohnson9244]

If my 12 year old boy tried calling himself a girl, and cheated in sports by completing against girls, I would be ashamed of the poor job I did as a parent.

[@CousinEddy1969]

I have three children who I am immensely proud of in all areas of their lives! Believe me when I say because of the values they were raised with they would never dream of doing something as insane as pretending to be the opposite sex! Not only would that reflect negatively on their personal character, but more importantly it would reflect poorly on their family!

[@drlca6601]

imagine radical leftist acolyte parents reading this and seething lmao... Personally I have no problem with what we used to call TRANSVESTITES iirc, it's their life anyways and dressing the way you want (within reason) is your right, but then it was never a question of brainwashing youths, attempting to hijack educations systems, attacking FEMALE SPORTS and sabotaging young female athletes!!, OR MUTILATING CHILDREN and GIVING THEM HORMONE INJECTIONS, etc., etc. Now all those things are major issues for children in the Anglosphere. God help us. No one cares if you want to wear clothes certain way, and while we don't want you to chop your Ds or Ts off, most Conservatives wouldn't really care what you do with your body as long as you are 18, but once you start messing with children, their education and bloody sports for Christ's sakes, then a line has been crossed, and the so-called silent majority, conservatives in earnest, and centrists who still have balls, will stand against you every damn time.

[@brunswicker77]

If your 12 year old boy called himself a girl, he could probably compete against grown women and he might actually have a shot.

[@CousinEddy1969]

@@brunswicker77 being both my boys was All State in wrestling and football in 5A GHSA pretty sure they would hold their own in any athletic endeavor! On the other hand I would not want my daughter to have to compete with them for a spot on the Softball Team!

[@janethomas78]

BRAVO

[@MelonWaffles]

I love how Francesca tells them not to speak for women, then goes on speaking for women. Then call women who disagree with her embarrassing. There is nothing logical coming out of her mouth. Why can't they just have a conversation and debate without going after piers physical appearance?

[@AyyoYoshi]

this is actually terrifying that they seem to believe the wild shit theyre saying

[@JohnDoe-ez2ex]

😮Esther takes no prisoner's, the irony of James and Francesca telling a women to be quiet.

[@johndonuts4258]

they are cis women with functional brains so they don't care

[@snowflakesnightmare8592]

You can. Paint stripes on a COW... .It will NEVERRRR be a ZEBRA

[@bigpanda8772]

🙌 it will NEVER be a zebra! Well said.

[@laylacastleberry7584]

And if it identifies as a zebra we are supposed to bobblehead our way through that situation, no thank you! You're a cow with zebra stripes according to literally everyone 🙄 idk what our world is coming to but we all gotta stay strong and get thru this weird phase!

[@babsywoman4212]

Even if you paint it on a horse: it could pass, yet still is a horse and not a zebra.

[@samlatooni]

a zebra is a zebra whether real or fake......😅😅😅😅😅 disect that!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@TheErnieforss]

I think you mean " you can paint a donkey stripes, it still wont be a zebra."

[@GSDExplorer]

6:29 “you know I actually googled this” You googled it? Pack it up guys it’s over

[@adamstuzen2271]

Killin it, Fran! It’s so good to hear a real, good person talk here!!

[@Tight--LiNeZ]

Adults don't compete against children. General physical differences matter in sport.

[@Elrond_the_noob]

very well said

[@bunnyluver2176]

Funny how there's no trans men rushing to compete against real men. There is money, prestige and scholarships at stake.

[@shalbec3232]

They only want to compete agaisnt women💀 they stay trying to replace real women these people need to get help

[@Michael-kf7gm]

Francesca is 100% right. Finally, someone to reason with these other crazies.

[@kevo1978]

​@@Michael-kf7gm seriously?!? She's a absolute idiot

[@cedricryman9343]

@@shalbec3232Yes, and Feminism paved way for them. Viola! 🥰

[@bryan123483]

What about Schuyler Bailar? Kye Allums? Chris Mosier? Ness Murby? Keelin Godsey? Mack Beggs? What about Patricio Manuel who could beat the living shit out of the vast majority of all the men bitching in the comments. I mean I could go on but these are some of the best athletes in the world. These trans men are dominanting their male sports.

[@GymmerShoNuff]

Wow, I can’t believe this is an actual thing

[@MAGNUMTIZED79]

WTF is America coming to I'm never voting democrat again it all started when Obama was in office smh

[@bigpanda8772]

The rule should be that transgenders either compete in a transgender division or in their biological gender division.

[@alh915]

They don't want to - it's part of the kick they get out of their behaviour.

[@kemarhamilton8813]

100 percent agreed

[@simplytee1000]

Same way there’s paraolympics, as it wouldn’t be fair for them to compete against able bodied people

[@KRILEY1919]

Exactly, I don't know what's so hard about this

[@aneliaprodanova]

Well, the thing is there is normally a third category for all. But trans women, despite that, compete with women, and moreover, trans men also compete in the women’s category. So in one case it’s about biology and then, when it suits them, it’s about identity. If they were feeling so strong that “transwomen are women”, then why trans men still compete with women(rhetorical question).

[@ReenieG1UK]

The fact that ‘transmen’ are not rushing to participate in men’s sport makes the whole issue so clear but the allies and activists don’t want to talk about that.

[@venger]

Recently a boxer did and she got absolutely smoked.

[@anonymous_dot_com2326]

​@@vengerlol

[@killergma]

It would be absolutely wonderful to have women’s, men’s, and transgender’s leagues of sports. When that lady on the left said “you think they’re doing it to win medals” well that’s a loaded question lady and she did that on purpose…they aren’t trans to win medals BUT when a man,halfway through college/HS who competed against men and lost, suddenly “identify” as trans and compete then YES it is for a medal. Transitioning is about being in a body that matches your image of you. You still know you were born differently and the “transitioning” didn’t make you into the opposite sex it is allowing you you to physically look like what you feel like and is done (or used to be done) after intense therapy as it is a big step and there is no WAY that they would be misgendered. If not told I would have never known Buck was born a woman or Blair was born a man and you can bet I would never refer to Buck as a she or Blair as a he…that is what being a trans was all about…it’s why they used the term “trans”. You cannot simply say “I’m trans bcuz i identify as a woman/man” and expect everyone has to accept that, if that were the case then hey “I identify as the most wealthy beautiful Ruler of the Universe and should be treated accordingly” 🤨 some how I don’t see that working 😅

[@edwardstinson654]

This was one of the all time great debates I've ever seen, I couldn't believe what was being said, one point, going in female spaces and the counter was all the deaths of trans people by opposing thinkers, who is ready killing who?

[@mosaicsanctuary3]

Poor Ester having to deal with these idiots, Francesca and James. It’s unbelievable. What has happened to people’s intelligence! It’s rather frightening.

[@HarrisMiller-qw6xh]

Basically, what this is all about is certain men who can't cut it in male sports so they call themselves female invade women's sports, and that's something that I disagree with, if they want to get involved in sports, then they should develop their own division and stop gate crashing others and if they want to call me transphobic for saying so, that's their problem

[@ph8077]

Brainwashing is no respecter of intellect.

[@bereal6590]

You're equating intelligence with point of view. They can have a different point of view, that doesn't make them less intelligent. To say so is disrespectful

[@ObsidianCrocodile]

@@bereal6590are you a robot? You sound like one..

[@TheNewYorker7899]

don't feel bad because she destoryed BOTH 😂

[@Elizabeth-vh7zp]

Esther is usually the most calm and educated guest on the panel, you can tell she had enough of these bullsh*t rethorics today. Go off sister! Proud to have a woman like you *actually* defending our rights.

[@gucciadjective7745]

Esther is a powerful woman. Well spoken and well informed

[@jacks-vo5ts]

Love her

[@alfredfouquet]

I heard a transsexual said once that they are more femenine and more woman than women selv. Then I had a strange thought.....it might posibly be the most macho way of thinking to sustain that men have to become transwomen to show women even how to be a woman. If a woman is so worthless that men should teach her how to be a woman, what is the new role of women in the gender ideology..................to be nothing?

[@tadejberce8772]

She is a queen

[@gucciadjective7745]

@Elementalhandle0000 How were her rebuttals ill informed? Why should she have any time for the people actively hurting women's sport? All leftists ever say is "we don't platform what we find intolerant" but when the shoes on the other foot its not OK. Francesca and James made much much weaker arguments but you align with them so you don't call them out. This is the exact problem

[@mrjoe1484]

Great job Mr Morgan for taking the initiative to talk about these issues