EXPOSED: I Didn't Show THIS in Viral 'Woke' Debate with Eni Aluko (4K)

This is my reaction video to my initial interview about DEI, woke culture and diversity with mainstream celebrity (ITV, SKY, BBC) Eniola Aluko. Eni has been lovely and respectful with me off screen but I had to point out some of the fallacies in her ideology. If you agree or enjoyed this, please hit subscribe.
Watch the full episode here: • Most INSANE Woke Argum...
#antiwoke #enialuko #dei

[@andrewgoldheretics]

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[@sole__doubt]

I love how you just used her own ideas and words against her. You can tell you are probably the first person to do so. Oh and she doesnt mean well, stop being overly optimistic.

[@toonfan02]

I watched the full show when you released it and was astounded at her lack of self awareness, I'd love you to get her back for a follow up and perhaps meet some more people who have suffered from DEI

[@nathanieljordan6144]

Great video. I would push back on one thing. The institution she is in is racist making her defacto a racist by her arguments. As you can see, I am black and have been fed the same bs as she has. The difference is I will not be controlled by those who mean my harm. New to your channel but you get to the bottem of this, you need to be plain in your speech and call this ideology what it is: racist. She may otherwise be a kind person but someone as intelligent as she needs to be able to see the evil she is taking part in.

[@jayuk83]

I like your content but I actually unsubscribed - sorry 😬 . You probably don’t care but I’ll explain why so you have the market research. Your channel started off nuanced and interesting as far as I could tell, but your thumbnails and titles have gradually become clickbaity and slightly ad hominem-y. That’s not the reason I liked this channel originally. I’m sure on the balance of probability, this style will gain you more subscribers, but it’s not for me and I don’t want to contribute to encouraging that stuff! Good luck with it all, though

[@Canadian_Skeptical]

Well done, Andrew!

[@Mr_Monkey_McNugget]

She isn't a victim, she's part of the problem. Diminishing her culpability infantilizes her.

[@jfgrenier972]

She is a victim, didn't you know? She scores an 8 on the Victim Pyramid (see Matt Walsh"s Victim Hierarchy video)

[@InservioLetum]

Not fanta, fanti.

[@keithkhan174]

No brain, no education, what can u expect.

[@TheMovieMusicMan]

We are all victims to our particular indoctrinations. None of us can escape it...

[@Eldot5]

Right. And exacerbates the problem.

[@bigmikey1344]

As a black man, I am sick of other people within the community making me look like a victim.

[@awm1527]

The issue is plenty are sick of it too, but when the media won't do anything about it and actually just go along with it the knock on is huge. Why does anyone want to get a job on merit knowing they will be questioned on how they got it. Eni is a huge part of the problem pushing the nonsense.

[@Bittersweet.Symphony.]

Black women lap it up tho

[@RaveyDavey]

It’s worse than that. Now people are looking at black people who go the job on merit and wondering if they got it because of their skin colour. Because some DID get it on that basis.

[@19822andy]

It's insulting too. Companies aren't hiring based on how good someone is, they are hiring based on skin colour and the standards are lowered because they think they're not as clever as their counterparts. It must be horrible wondering if you have been hired on merit or because you are part of a victim class.

[@Bittersweet.Symphony.]

​@@19822andy Companies specify no whites need apply. Racist times.....

[@clarkcoslett-hughes268]

She got a manager fired for a bad joke and has openly admitted to defrauding a football club. I don't think she does mean well.

[@shikharsrivastava3558]

i am no fan of her. But making Ebola jokes about her Parents should get the Coach fired.

[@ionasmith1998]

To be fair it was quite a racist joke

[@notasstupidasilookprobably]

She accused people of being racist because they did a West Indian accent. She only complained because that person was white. People imitate accents all the time. She's imitating a career at the minute.

[@Zekers87]

It's a joke. I'm married to a Native American woman, I am white . We make jokes all the time. We still love and respect each other. I hang out with all her relatives and jokes get thrown around. Yes, some jokes are mean, crude, and rude, but that moment and the laughter after is what bonds us. The world is getting way to sensitive, and yes, I joke around the same way with my gay friends and all of my friends that are different races or religions. People need to get thicker skin and realize stuff can be said for shock value and a giggle

[@walkaz]

@@ionasmith1998nothing racist about it. Facts are the disease is spread among a certain group of people

[@adamhuxley4597]

This woman was unbearable. Andrew, you have the patience of a saint. I really felt for you mate.

[@adeyemi79]

I'm a black man and went through terrible racism growing up in the 70s, Eni Aluko makes me embarrassed, she plays on colour to line her own pockets, she has no concept of what racism means.

[@stirlingmoss9637]

The 70s? Where was this? My school in 1960s South London had 2 black Caribbean pupils join us and there never was a derogatory comment or physical interaction against them, they were just 2 of us but obviously darker and distinct. The Police were more likely to be racist and violent against other cultures and races and sexualities.

[@ollymeg]

Oh she has when she directs it towards white people, but then again you can't be racist to white people or so it seems.

[@felixmidas3245]

@@stirlingmoss9637 So you evaluate other people's experience with racism?

[@noseriouslyimserious4073]

@@felixmidas3245Yes. Because 99% of the time it’s either a misunderstanding or a straight up fantasy. Really, it’d be easy to say whites are actually the group most affected by “racism” just based on decades of interracial crime statistics. The violence tends to only go one direction.

[@keyhind2]

Really, for someone who says they have been through it i am dissapointed in your reasoning

[@Sinister_Steve]

She's a 37 year old woman. She should be held accountable for her opinions. Also: i like this format of breaking down an interview.

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

wow! from the quality of her arguments i was convinced she was about 23. very depressing

[@KB8Killa]

37?! Good lord

[@puffdaddy69]

@@KB8Killayup…. It’s a brainwashing tactic to keep them dumbed down

[@MsMounen]

Can we also hold her accountable for the bad make up? Or is that too personal?

[@saffyjanes8875]

She should always be held responsible for every stupid racist utterance.

[@justinewarner635]

I worked for an NHS Trust in EDI in 2021. It was like Shutter Island. I'm white female & was told to "explore" my "white privilege" by my black manager before I could attend any BAME meetings. Before this job, I previously enjoyed a 20 year career in HMPS psychology & offending behaviour programs, where E&D underpins everything. She knew this obviously because it was on my job app & we discussed it at interview. My EDI experience actually exceeded hers which didn't sit well with her...because I'm white. The fact is, she used her position to bear down on me in this way...because I'm white. She also used her colour to justify her disgusting directive because her superiors bought into her "non white plight" narrative & they were terrified. Essentially she did not want white colleagues to attend BAME meetings because she was racist...the irony. She wanted to strip me of my identity, my beliefs, my experience & my credentials aswell as shame me...because I'm white. Suffice to say, I left the trust after 6 months.

[@fluffylegs8598]

Hey you met a narcissist. Get another job and shine. Narcs hate and hate and hate. They do nothing else and spend their whole time doing hate.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

​@@fluffylegs8598and narcissists, more than anyone, excel at commodifying and weaponising victimhood - which is the core of identity politics. The toxicity of modern politics, government, and nonprofit stops being a mystery when you realise that now more than ever, they're the perfect environment for narcissists to succeed.

[@heatherw.3528]

Not only a narc. But a racist. Sorry you had to deal with that

[@greenaum]

@@cosmicmuffin322 Right. I think good people were too tolerant and supporting, and bad actors, narcs and psychopaths, just took advantage of that. A disaster waiting to happen. Fortunately there's backlash and it's starting to un-happen. UNfortunately, there's right-wing narcs and loonies, who are taking advantage of the backlash! So we end up with idiots on both sides screaming slogans, and anyone sensible just ducks their head down. Sadly, this leaves the stupidest, craziest voices as the influence. Politicians are such lazy whores that they just look for a wind to blow with, that they think will help their career. But in the modern age, *anyone's* voice can be loud, and *any* stupid idea can spread through Twitter at the speed of lies. Listening to stuff like that is disaster. But again, perhaps there's a backlash as people have tried listening to these lunatics, realised they're never satisfied because they have personality disorders, and gone back to other sources of influence. It'd be nice if those were *facts,* but that's asking too much. At least with newspapers, they have to rein it in a little bit to keep their mass appeal, and to worry about being sued for what they say. Anyway yeah sorry you discovered personality disorders aren't racist in who has them. Amazing, but sad, how these types of people end up in positions where others have to listen to them. What's wrong with their superiors to employ and promote them?

[@DivaClariceWilliams]

Did you put in a grievance against her and if you did what was the conclusion? Just curious if you took things further.

[@matthaze9765]

Wow. When presented with her own view from the opposite perspective, she calls it "extremely racist"!

[@lordelpus2099]

Hahahaha!

[@glynhannaford7332]

Yep, pure hypocrisy!

[@morganclare4704]

And she never will?? Let's hope not. cheers

[@keyhind2]

that was not her view, its your clever way of keeping thoes people you had openly discriminated about in the past feel you have repented of it, its because you dont like what you hear, thats making yawl uncomfortable, Repenting will be a better way to deal with it rather thinking those people taht are discriminated against are imagining it. I dont sup[pose you know much about colonialsm and how a small amount of people pillaged countries killed raped and plundered them, then followed on by given us these race theories that help pacify their conscience. Guys chill

[@CG-fx9bl]

@@keyhind2 I don’t believe he’s saying that anyone is imagining it. He’s pointing out the double standard in her argument. When a black person or person of colour reaches the top of their profession, she’s presumes that is must be on merit, whereas she believes that the majority of the 80-90% of white-British people who reach the top of their profession do so because of privilege. Andrew is making the point that in British society currently, around 88% of people are white, so it would be an accurate representation. She also finds it ‘hard to believe’ that Andrew was told that he wouldn’t get a job in the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation), because white-British men are over represented. This over-representation is something that he’s found to not be true based on statistics. Also, who is ‘you’? Have you got evidence that this person has discriminated against anyone? You’re seemingly holding someone to account for someone else’s bad behaviour because they have the same skin colour. That would be analogous to holding all blonde haired, blue eyed people to account for the treatment of Jewish people in Nazi Germany.

[@RecreationalValue-gk8jt]

She couldn't debate herself out of a paper bag. Andrew is 2 steps ahead of her at every turn.

[@danielbourne1089]

But she's a woman and black, so she wins by default.

[@tetraneutron9350]

That is the problem - what value is there in a completely one sided debate - we have truly learned nothing from this. The real goal of debate is to refine the truth - not reinforce a belief.

[@jb8935]

@@tetraneutron9350 The point is that these people preach and are held up as if they have all the answers. But they clearly haven't thought about or studied any of these topics. They just spew whatever lines they are fed, even when they are completely contradictory, and can't argue any of it.

[@express0ne103]

​@@tetraneutron9350 FWIW it did expose her as critical race grifter/cultist and how brainwashed people in top positions are.

[@musashi1605]

But she finished top in her university at law 😂😂

[@juliebrooke6099]

I have no interest in football and have never seen this woman before but she clearly has been given her television job for reasons other than her intelligence.

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@juliebrooke6099 - I don't think she lacks intelligence, she's just struggling because she's not used to being questioned like this. Every single human being in the world, no matter their education level/intelligence is prone to doing what she was doing, because the hardest thing for any of us to do is discover the flaws/contradictions in our own arguments - or the arguments of others - especially when those arguments fit with our beliefs. Factor in some strong emotions and we are lost! This is what memes do: they use emotion creating images to present an argument that feels so right that it bypasses our critical thinking skills. Lastly, have you ever listened to football commentary from the past? Now tell me: were any of those old school commentators bright? Answer is NO.

[@RichardEnglander]

​@@honeychurchgipsy6 She definitely has broken critical thinking skills and lacks basic logic and reason. That somebody like that can become a lawyer is very worrying, another sign that we have lowered the bar in the name of inclusion.

[@fioredeutchmark]

@@honeychurchgipsy6she clearly does and I think you do too by your line of reasoning. Intelligence is literally a measure of one’s intellectual capacity, those who lack that capacity and therefore can’t think critically or with reason or with logic or in the abstract by definition lack intelligence. Intelligence is demonstrable and she demonstrated she has none. It’s incredibly simple (like her mind).

[@greenaum]

Well yeah, but she is a football presenter. They probably call her "The Professor" on the show.

[@greenaum]

@@honeychurchgipsy6 Right. "The Left Can't Meme" is one I've seen. But that's because you can't get complex or nuanced arguments into 10 words round an ironic picture. Emotive appeals and logical fallacies are what memes are great at. Shows in fast-foward microcosm, how bullshit and bad beliefs get spread between people. I'm about 50% sure memes will be the death of society.

[@mattyjay8896]

This woman is the reason why the word racism has lost all meaning.

[@wavell14]

racism never had any meaning

[@johnharmon536]

@@wavell14 LOL. Of course it did. What do you mean? There has never been anything that fits the description of racism?

[@eleri7024]

You can't even define racism

[@monolithtunes]

@@johnharmon536neologism

[@mattyjay8896]

@eleri7024 Anyone that judges someone because of the color of their skin is racist and racism.

[@fraggit]

"When you're used to preferential treatment, equal treatment feels like discrimination." Thomas Sowell.

[@fretbuzz59]

It's likely that that remark--usually "when you're accustomed to *privilege,* equality feels like oppression"--wasn't originated by Sowell, since it's typically used to describe the grievances of white, usually Christian, Americans at the discomfort they feel as other peoples and cultures incorporate into society.

[@fraggit]

@@fretbuzz59 "since it's typically used to describe the grievances of white, usually Christian, Americans at the discomfort they feel as other peoples and cultures incorporate into society" Is what a brainwashed Marxist would say.

[@thekidd7]

*Debunked, discredited, Thomas Sowell

[@fraggit]

@@thekidd7 Don't care, it's still true.

[@lindamacleod1686]

A quote most used in reference to white males not black females

[@martintimmer8574]

She is an adult. She is responsible for what she does and says. There are no excuses.

[@joffey1212]

She is not a adult she is a racist

[@allanlock4561]

When someone calls me a racist these days I know I've won the argument.

[@ShenzenUzumaki]

😆👍

[@keyhind2]

racism is an experience not an argument friend

[@ness-ee]

I’ve never done anything to warrant somebody calling me a racist.

[@John1873--]

​@@ness-ee I was called chauvinistic in the work place because I told someone I dont like romcoms (yes, the film genre). Been accused of racism on the internet. The work place and internet is full of victims who dilute words like racism, sexism, or whichever other label they're using to discredit you. Eventually, people stop giving a F.

[@TAK144]

No that dosnt mean that at all 😂😂😂 where the hell did u study 😂😂😂 idiot

[@mikerochburns4104]

Eni Aluko is as much a journalist as I am an astronaut. Who can forger her "19 goals in 40 games, that's a goal a game" gaff. One of many.

[@mister_M.]

Privately educated too 💰

[@trooney71]

​@mister_M. If she still has the receipts then she should demand a refund for the fees.🙄

[@Si_Mondo]

​@@trooney71You're paying for the education, not its results after the fact.

[@mitchio83]

The Terrance Howard math

[@donoyster5309]

10goals in 10match for Coutinho Man city and arsenal team up too help arteta purchase rice

[@randomname6647]

As a black person I wholeheartedly disagree with Eni Aluko

[@TheGiantKillers]

As a white person, suppose I have to qualify that in this discussion, I felt it was more just that she couldn't really get her head around the issue Andrew was saying from his own experience that our society presently has a possibility in some areas of an over correction of the historical prejudice, which Eni pointed out. In truth, on TV what actually gets me is a lack of meritocracy in TV. Take the One show. Alex Jones and Amal Rajan are journalists who worked her way up to that position. Their co presenters are a singer, a singers DJ son, a comedian's wife. None of whom earned their place on that sofa through climbing the journalism ladder.

[@SteveSlaughter-ko2uv]

@TheGiantKillers “correction of historical prejudice….” As a person with capacity for thinking… There were no black people here historically. Does that fact cause you concern? Meditate on it and get back to me.

[@TheGiantKillers]

@@SteveSlaughter-ko2uv Meditated on it and pretty sure the 50s, 60s etc counts as history and had quite a lot of prejudice. Think the no blacks, no dogs, no Irish thing was just a tad prejudicial. But hey, you're the one with the facts.

[@savannahglebe5165]

@@TheGiantKillersBecause they were new to the country? Like all newcomers in every walk of life,people treat you with suspicion and you have to earn your right to be accepted. You don’t get to be invited as a guest to dinner and be the head of the table. Thats life get over it.

[@TheGiantKillers]

@@savannahglebe5165 Don't think people who came here from other parts of what was the British Empire were asking to sit at the head of the table. But they didn't expect to be told to sit on the floor.

[@SVW1976]

She doesn't mean well..😂 Don't make excuses for stupidity. Compassion is what got us here.

[@Gingerblaze]

Not "compassion", but manipulated, misplaced compassion or worse, insincere compassion.

[@cameronjones8641]

Well said.

[@daza3620]

You could say the KKK mean well, rasist is still racist.

[@Stolat79]

Eni appears to have never asked herself “Could I be wrong about this?” and it shows.

[@keyhind2]

she did not create the mess but you are forcing her to fix the problem, why don't you tell her to shut up and know her place instead. perhaps you might be the wrong one here

[@Stolat79]

@@keyhind2 lol, no one is asking her to fix the problem. However, no one wants to admit that something is problematic when it’s in service to their enrichment. Remember Eni is a child of wealth, she is most likely unfamiliar with the struggle of the economically disadvantaged and has a massive blind spot because of her upbringing. Maybe you should stop it with the racist/sexist overtones that you project onto people who disagree with you. AKA: stop being a child.

[@susangemmell9401]

She cannnot possibly be wrong about anything, she's an oppressed minority.

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

she was terrible total lack of self awareness and constantly contradicting herself. well done on going viral, you deserve more views way better discussion/debate shows then we get on TV, TV hasn't bothered doing proper shows like that since the 90s.

[@andywrong3247]

This was pure Andrew gold she exposed herself for all to see typical delusional claptrap let's have Andrew working on banning men masquerading as women in sport.find your own categories.

[@stevegrantley378]

This is not a desire for equity, it’s a need for revenge.

[@KnottyCeltic]

Maybe. I see it a different way which could be entirely wrong but I see it as with anything humans do and get backlash, they say "ok ok I was wrong" and then pendulum doesn't swing over to "fair play", it's swings so far to the opposite direction that it fails to do what it was designed to do in the first place. The pendulum will swing back eventually as BIPOC people and women decide that they're better than that and don't need to be gifted a position. They'll see it as an insult. This lady in the interview obviously thinks DEI is an insult b/c when she's been accused of it she gets upset and irate. She can't even admit aloud that DEI exists.

[@williamdew7143]

White fragility, in a nutshell.

[@funkyplasmaman]

Actually it is about equity but the equity she wants isn't the same as most think of when they here equity. They believe that the only way to get equity is to have whites suffer from racism for the next three hundred years. Decent people just want equality.

[@Farcamp1]

It's not reverse racism, it's just plain racism. Also, not to blame her for her thinking she is a victim an oppressed because she's young, or she's been exposed to her, her whole life is a false assumption. She is old enough to have researched the world, open her eyes, and realize that not everyone gets to be a fancy soccer player... she should have learned by now what is right and what is wrong. She also knows that she has to tow the party line and spout. The government approved party-approved phrases in order to keep her status as a, good little girl. That's a lot of fear that she's operating on and I do feel for her. Just as an aside, I didn't go to college until I was 40 years old because I couldn't afford it. I wasn't the right skin color, I didn't have any children, I didn't have a husband so I had to work to support myself and once I saved enough money, I paid my own college way. I didn't qualify for any grants, any loans, any thing except merit-earned scholarships. I'm just so tired of this whining and moaning. Try being a childless woman who has been paying taxes for other peoples kids schooling their entire life and no one gives two craps about it. Where are the protesters for people like that?

[@ilikeknives1000]

it is but it only proves the point that there is racism in the white community when they say that that does not negate the fact that whites to catch racism from other though so the term can apply

[@dinosaurwoman]

As a childless woman as well, agreed. I am at the bottom of the barrel--white, married, childless, heterosexual... I literally get nothing from the govt, and yet I have to continue to pay taxes.

[@Farcamp1]

@@dinosaurwoman thanks for your comment. You are the first person I've ever experienced to ever acknowledge a difficult difficulties that are experienced by the very quiet, silent true minority.

[@dannybowden5296]

@@dinosaurwoman Welcome to the world of a single, heterosexual, British, Caucasian male with no children; we've been cul-de-sac for decades!

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

👏👏👏✌

[@rossy2976]

She truly proved that she's not upper management material.

[@keithkhan174]

Or too civilised.

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

I'm not sure she's McDonald's management material

[@truffleshuffl]

Yes, she is a true believer. Upper management believes in the cause, not their own propaganda.

[@user-uf1qh4im4z]

She comes from a very wealthy background, she somehow manages to ignore her life in Suningdale and private school education which are true examples of privilege

[@oceanpier]

Amazing!

[@eleri7024]

Privilege? Her parents worked hard to send their child to a private school. Is that not an example of meritocracy. Her parents battled against bigotry, corruption and achieved professional succes to send their child to a good school and you are here complaining, pathetic, such envy and bigotry

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

​@@eleri7024 That may be true, it very likely IS true (of course they may come from African "old money" or aristocracy, too) However she herself is middle class. When my kids began school our exec head teacher gave a lecture to parents the biggest metric that indicates likely success of a child is not sex, not parental educational achievements, not religion, not race, not ethnicity, not class ....it's MONEY. Wealth. The biggest single indicator of a child's success is if they have rich parents.

[@cameroncopus9737]

@@eleri7024 Everybody suffers discrimination to a certain degree in life that's just how human beings are but she hasn't been held back because of her race and her parents haven't

[@user-uf1qh4im4z]

@@eleri7024 Oh you are so funny. Her father was a Senator in Nigeria !!!!

[@angrykermit3192]

Black people constantly telling me that I'm racist is actually making me become racist, if that makes sense.

[@vergedrums]

No, this is all on her. She’s an adult. She doesn’t get a pass for any of her own behavior.

[@HildaDeerfox]

Agreed

[@chriswright2553]

I love James Brown. Imagine him being played by a white actor.... 😆

[@robertglenn8095]

Shes awful. Absolutely awful.

[@morganclare4704]

AND THATS BEING KIND.

[@kitlow2970]

Reverse racism isn't a thing. It's just racism.

[@fuhqsideways]

The problem is people hear racism and think it's a one way street. Anti-whiteness is better to get their attention

[@stephent5963]

I like that. I never really thing about it when they say it, but I get the point they 'try' and make. But yeah... it's just racism, nough said

[@notdouggie]

Well said. The second we put a quota on hiring for minorities, that is automatically racist - the emphasis is on ethnicity and not talent anymore. It is racist to even have someone's nationality as a hiring consideration factor, who gives a shit where the candidate is from or what gender they are? The person gets hired if they can prove that they're capable to do the job they applied for. I treat people as people, nicely for people that comes with peace, not so much for cunty people.

[@robertb1999]

Racism is a fake term anyway. Everyone has a preference for their own group which is totally natural and healthy.

[@agiksf.8998]

It's revenge r haci$m.

[@gavindaly8193]

This women needs to be on comedy gold. Absolute tool

[@Ginerilyn]

You're absolutely right about this interview being a "car crash." I cringed throughout, despite how very gracious and gentle you were with Eni. Every time she encountered an internal contradiction in her ideology, she'd get that momentary look on her face like "wait a minute...." but then she'd just disregard it and carry on like what she said 2 minutes prior had no bearing on her current statement. Nice job keeping your cool on this one

[@wiseonwords]

@Ginerilyn - Yes, exactly. She looked startled every time Andrew pointed out her contradictions. That's why, at times, it looked like she was close to tears. She must have felt her entire worldview was under attack - which it was. That Thomas Sowell quotation comes to mind: "“When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.”

[@nickbarber2080]

It's called "Not being very bright"

[@charmnevin]

@@nickbarber2080i dunno, i think she’s intelligent however her ego has caused her to lose touch with reality

[@ridleyroid9060]

Yeah you can see that brain working overtime to try and fit what Andrew rightfully points out within a framework she has been indoctrinated with.

[@nickbarber2080]

@@charmnevin An intelligent person would not fall into such obvious traps set.

[@freedomslunch]

She doesn't mean well. She's an opportunist.

[@twisted2836]

And a racist.

[@puffdaddy69]

She’s so bad at soccer she has to rage bait her videos to get any sort of income

[@SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq]

@@twisted2836 Projecting, much? Is Eni the one begging for subscribers to a grubby racist KZbin channel, incidentally?

[@andrewandkaryntoulson1803]

And how is it racist?​@@SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq

[@louisebidgood2591]

@@SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq. Projecting? In every single European country where the good people have been forced to try and live peacefully and prosperously with the never ending hordes of completely illegal gimmegrants, all crime statistics are extraordinarily clear, and ludicrously disproportionate. Everywhere you go it’s people of brown that attack, rob, stab, grape, and murder the indigenous peoples, and it’s exactly the same in North America and Oceania, we won’t mention South Africa, yet! Seven European South Africans ( you started it lol ) have been murdered EVERY DAY since they were forced to hand over their country ( they built it from scratch anyway ) to troglodytes in 1994. Reality is harsh, acquaint yourself with it.

[@magswilson2039]

I live in Scotland and our population is about 94% white. People should be in jobs and roles because of their talent and ability, not being part of a quota.

[@wiseonwords]

94% - white! Almost everybody - white! The Lord President is white! The Lord Justice Clerk is white! Every High Court judge is white! Everywhere - white!

[@stephenparry6811]

When humza made his famous "huhwhite" speech Scotland was 98% white British its only come down a couple of % points since then but over representation is abundantly apparent & yet the progressives constantly bang on about representation

[@davidevans916]

Dam man that’s crazy thinking, crazy I tell you 😂

[@INatalkaI]

That head of your government represents the other 6% I guess. 😂

[@newtexan1]

Scotland is NOT that white. You have a HUGE Muslim immigration problem now.

[@Rationalstart]

I fucking love this guy. This is hands down the best demonstration and explanation of what I've been feeling but couldn't find the words to say.

[@seemamiah]

You were so masterful at calmly and rationally pointing out the fallacies in her arguments. We need more real journalism like this and your analysis in this video is brilliant.

[@user-dt6tt9qj8t]

I want to shake this dude’s hand. I haven’t been this impressed since this whole woke mess began. I’ve been waiting for this since before the pandemic.

[@raffam3559]

I admire the fact that to encourage her to talk he wasn’t too antagonising but at times he was really too soft and let many things slide like her white patriarchy argument, do we want to talk about patriarchy in Nigeria or Africa in general then?

[@rationalbacon5872]

I can blame her. Eleni has chosen to dismiss rather than consider alternative explanations.That is pure, unprincipled arrogance.

[@greenaum]

Yeah but it's pretty human, she hardly invented that way of "thinking".

[@Samuel-tq9jx]

Eh a lot of people buy into ideologies that are objectively wrong, and she also is incentivized to continue believing the aforementioned “ideology”. We can have empathy for her and maybe all this backlash will break her out of the woke mind prison, maybe not. Despite this I don’t think we should demonize her or anyone willing to have a convo cause trust me that only fuels those types more and more in adherence to their cult/ideology.

[@jonlannister345]

They literally had a black woman play Anne Boleyn. That happened in real life. That should say enough. Imagine if they had Ryan Gosling playing MLK.

[@colonelturmeric558]

And queen charlotte, Achilles and Cleopatra. Not to mention in fictional terms, a black Ariel and an upcoming black popeye. Privileged and protected to the extreme

[@fibanocci314]

@colonelturmeric558 If you're referring to Bridgerton, I genuinely don't get why people are so bothered by that. The show as a whole is so loosely connected to reality as to be considered "inspired by history." Their Queen Charlotte bears no relation to the historical Queen Charlotte, race is just one more aspect of that.

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

​@@colonelturmeric558Excuse the frick out of me...Black Popeye?!

[@InservioLetum]

Far worse was blackwashing Cleopatra and Ariel. Degrading one of the greatest female leaders of the ancient world to a moor is evil enough, but to rob gingers of their one positive icon in the incessant tide of abuse? Talk about punching down....

[@DMD82]

Uproar would be the reaction! We are the underprivileged race in our own country!

[@KnottyCeltic]

She still never answered his simple question, "How can you defend DEI while stating that DEI doesn't exist?"

[@bear4772]

Good job calling her out on it. Well done 👏

[@martinheath5947]

Someone who has never had any need to question her 'azzumptions'. That's privilege

[@andrewroy4093]

Lol noted

[@blordo]

The pronunciation was killing me on those two words. 🤣

[@jonnypalmer-edwards8192]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one 😂 Was like nails on a chalkboard

[@peternimmo74]

Where do these weird pronunciations come from? Another one is Aksed instead of Asked? I'm sure this is a recent phenomenon. I've even heard it in films set in the 50s and 60s in America, yet I'm convinced that it's only in the last 5 or 10 years that I've heard it be used!

[@siheath3648]

DEI = *Didn't Earn It* One of the many negative results of DEI, is people's assumption that any person of colour, in any position, is there as a direct result of DEI and not because of their hard work or talent, it's unavoidable. Eniola's cognitive dissonance throughout the interview was mind blowing

[@spig3547]

I mean they could stop hiring based on colour or sex and then maybe people wouldn't correctly think that.

[@WoodyWanderer]

She was rubbish at football and is a terrible pundit so she’s obviously there because she is a black female it ticks 2 of the main boxes

[@spig3547]

@@FunnyTummyART you'd be amazed at how many really didn't, some obviously have and some are great, but the issue is when just black not all are 2.5 times more likely to be hired then you can see that at least 1.5% of them clearly didn't earn it as a minimum

[@siheath3648]

@@FunnyTummyART DEI is the antithesis of Meritocracy, people are literally hired by representation. Therefore, the issue is, because of DEI policies, there is a perception that they didn't.

[@siheath3648]

​@@FunnyTummyART If DEI is involved in the hiring process then it's impossible to say for sure, that's my entire point

[@kanenomoja]

Decade ago (many decades!) I applied for a research assistant job at a major university in the US. The job required a fairly unique combination of skills and experience, which I happened to have nailed. After two rounds of interviews that went very well, the hiring manager, a black woman, called me for a final meeting at which she told me straight out that I was by far the best qualified and although she truly wanted to hire me she could not, solely because I am a white male. She was obviously very frustrated with the system. I was so taken aback, I just thanked her for her honesty and wished her luck. In looking back, I think she was so fed up with the university that she actually wanted me to go to a lawyer. Unable to get that or any other decent job in a bad economy, I paid for my education by cleaning toilets nights and weekends for years. I’ve got at least four other stories from my own experiences that are similar to this (although none include such a direct confession, some were even more egregious.) DEI is just racism. Period.

[@vox9841]

I listened to the whole podcast. I thought you gave her an easy time Andrew and did not challenge her enough. Her views were predominantly racist, and victim blaming. She kept referring to 100 yrs of white male privilege and men and jobs, patriarchy, the usual woke, feminist, cultural Marxist dogma. The world is not predominantly white, what about China , Africa, etc. We are the most diverse non racist countries on earth. If you compare the EU parliament, China govt , African governments or despots how many are white? Then compare our parliament, we have diverse representation. Regarding her self aggrandising, she did not attend an oxbridge or Russel group university, or some of the other top tier universities. Has she ever practiced law as a solicitor? She believed her own indoctrinated propaganda. In South Africa they have dropped the educational standards to increase black doctors. Look it up. Thanks for your work Andrew, keep it up, you mentioned you did not really have any working class friends in the podcast. Maybe you can get to know some more working class people personally.

[@Madonnalitta1]

No need to trip yourself in circles being nice. Africa is black, Asia is where Asians live. The western world is where white people live. No need to apologise for evolution.

[@jumhed994]

Approximately 9.6% of the world population is white. The smallest demographic.

[@robertovalero6186]

And these woke people never mention the 🇮🇱in all of this.

[@abookmaker6344]

She doesn’t mean well. She knows she’s promoting lies. They won’t stop whilst they’re being rewarded for talking sh1t. Possibly time to disengage.

[@wilko5574]

You are very measured, calm and fact based. It was painful to witness her arrogance and contradictions. She has an extremely high opinion of herself and her capabilities. You deserve a medal for keeping your cool and letting her dig a hole for herself.

[@ballisticsquid]

Andrew smashed it. Perfect interview. Patient, persistent, respectful, charming. She trapped herself time and time again for everyone to see but all carried out in a way that was so effective yet respectful to the human in front of him

[@DetectiveStablerSVU]

Eni is a bad person. Objectively. The scary part is that the things that make her a bad person are exactly what she thinks are the best and most important things that she does.

[@danm9297]

I don’t think you can call her a bad person. She’s just not very intelligent and doesn’t have objective reasoning skills. We all tell ourselves the truths that benefit us, it’s part of the human condition.

[@WoodyWanderer]

Yep I think these kind of people are trying to be good and they think they’re are been but they’re just been toxic brainwashed fools causing divide for no reason . Scary they’ll think us people what think normal are the scum bags

[@robroy488]

Exactly right. It's actually a difficult podcast to listen to in regards to how much she contradicted herself. Plus she did it so confidently?!

[@topwomble]

Objectively? You really gargle your own balls that hard you think you can judge that?

[@keyhind2]

And you know her really well do you? its people like you that make easy ideas difficult to solve

[@louiseparker1915]

I’m a black woman. She really annoyed me!

[@kenrehill8775]

At least she pronounces ask, correctly 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paulcarfantan6688]

@@kenrehill8775 True but she did say:" azumption", lol. So you know...

[@stephenparry6811]

Her accent was shear public school though... could be wrong

[@mardyroux8136]

@@paulcarfantan6688 I know. Ugh.

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

@@paulcarfantan6688 cripes, i just noticed. that's outlandish

[@loislewis5229]

IMO, it’s not reverse racism….it’s racism .

[@Lydia-Frost]

That's not even an opinion. It's fact.

[@stewheart]

They don't want equality, they want the jump to the front of the queue

[@denroy3]

Why woke has been winning? Because guys like this makes excuses and play games. He's afraid.

[@RecreationalValue-gk8jt]

​@@denroy3Who? The presenter??

[@Madonnalitta1]

​@@RecreationalValue-gk8jtyes.

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

Don't you just love people who think they are a lot brighter than they are.

[@aaronm6143]

Both of these people fall deeply into this category

[@Salipenter1]

That interview should be linked to all definitions of “gaslighting.”

[@Suggsonbass]

completely!!!!!!!!!!

[@reezlaw]

But Andrew... are you sure you're not making it up? Come on now

[@Suggsonbass]

Actually in hindsight I no longer think it's strictly seaking "gaslighting" even though it does appear that way at time. I think, as does Andrew, that she genuinely believes in what she's saying which is what leads her to displays of clear cognitive dissonance when she finds herself backed into logical deadends by her own arguments taken ad absurdum. Gaslighting on the otherhand a conscious and deliberate manipulation of the truth. A form of lieing.

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

@@Suggsonbass i agree with that as well. this isn’t intentional manipulation.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

"I believe you that you *feel* you missed out on a job, but...." (Not, "I believe you were discriminated against, denying you jobs on over 50 occasions because of your skin colour") and "Is that really what they said, or is that how you interpreted it?"

[@gooseberristic]

I was truly astonished by how inconsistent Eni Aluko's argumentation was during the debate. Well... never underestimate the power of denial...

[@ferdi5407]

This type of video is invaluable. You clearly call a spade a shovel, without cuss words, without ranting, but with absolute sense logical and critical thinking.Thank you Andrew. Never give up!!

[@stever7097]

She makes Dianne Abbott look intelligent.

[@Factoverfiction1-mk3rf]

Her ignorance actually is her fault. Choosing to be in a echo chamber and ignoring your cognitive dissidence is a choice. She’s not a victim of some paradox she can’t escape

[@freddieoblivion6122]

She might just be afraid of not being invited to the cookout. They fear their own more than us.

[@wiseonwords]

*cognitive dissonance. And I agree with you.

[@ransakreject5221]

Disagree. Intelligence is .8 genetic. It’s not her fault she’s dumb

[@blakesleyk.7166]

It was interesting & maddening to watch this utter display of ignorance. Arguing with herself.

[@blakesleyk.7166]

@@babyqueenxoShe well manages to exhibit all 3.

[@robertmarshall2502]

6:21 This sums up the whole interview in a nutshell for me. She wanted to have her cake, eat it, then claim the baker was privileged to get to bake it for her, the victim, who also deserved to eat it because she was just better at eating cake. But also she wouldn't have been eating it without DEI. Which doesn't exist.

[@MyCrease]

Brilliant

[@a.person481]

Very funny 😂

[@UtamagUta]

and get the cake for free because reparations

[@unclegoon347]

It’s narcissism - she’s better than everyone around her because the deck was stacked against her, so she had to work twice as hard as her peers in all walks of life. That’s the starting point that all her beliefs hang from, and the woke stuff helps her to rationalise and justify it.

[@llkoolbean4935]

Exactly! Nailed it😅

[@user-tt3jb2do8m]

There's an African American KZbinr, Nate the Lawyer, who wiuld whole heartedly agree with you. Gives many examples when this happens, then ends badly, with people in public service, etc. But she couldn't have the same argument with him, because she couldn't use his race against him for it.

[@augustlion6645]

I believe in meritocracy, as soon as someone puts their thumb on the scales - nepotism, racism, bigotry, mysogyny, old school tie, accent, class then I will fight that. You do not beat prejudice by applying prejudice. All it does is feed racism and prejudice because it is a forced inequality by the system and for every action you get an equal and opposite reaction. Over 20 years ago I worked for a big PLC and we actively looked for disabled and minorities to fill roles within the company. We wanted to give them a chance, show we was an equal opportunities employer but the problem we had, was we either could not find them in the industry we was in or they was unqualified and we could not justify taking someone on who was unqualified because we felt it unfair to other candidates but just as importantly unfair on the person themselves. That has changed, now you can be qualified for a job or role but get it because of diversity and that can be a dangerous thing if that role has serious responsibilities. I do not live in a city, i was not brought up in a multi-ethnic area but every single person i know will give credit where credit is due regardless of skin colour or religion or sex. To constantly push a narrative of racism is disingenuous. I have had friends who worked for the CPS and with certain ethnic groups every single one would say its a racist prosecution , the upshot of that for the CPS was 3x the work as everything was tooth combed so no perceived bias, it also meant there was doubts in prosecutions and some failed to happen..... the persons being prosecuted knew this and used accusation of racism as a shield against prosecution. Example - the Rochdale grooming gang and ringleader of the gang in that first prosecution all accused the authorities of bringing a racist prosecution, a huge number in their community including councillors all said the same and many attacked the girls as being ' loose ' girls who had entrapped the men or deserved what happened to them or it was all consensual. Fortunately the evidence was overwhelming but ...... for years this had been happening and accusations of racism stopped it being thoroughly investigated.

[@billistefansson5309]

Hello Andrew! I just wanted to mention a KZbinr; Simon Webb. He has a Channel called History Debunked. I´s usually short videos, 5min or therabouts. He has frequently talked about the "blackwashing" of British History, TV programs etc. Thank you for all your work, I very much like what I have seen. All the best, Billi.

[@Ameydusa1]

I am very glad that you have entered into the space of challenging this destructive ideology. Keep going ❤

[@mickeyd4038]

Socrates said "the unexamined life is not worth living". Are we to give this woman a pass for her overt, and even proud, racism simply because she is either unwilling, or incapable, of examining her own life and beliefs? Why should anyone be given a pass for their erroneous ideas simply because they belong to some particular, currently-favored group? That fits squarely within the very definition of "preferential treatment".

[@williamdew7143]

You think Black people are 'currently favored' (sic)? White supremacy is a form of blindness.

[@tommyvictorbuch6960]

Outstanding work, Andrew. This is exactly what we need.

[@annienn4665]

You were amazing in this interview. You kept calm & were kind & respectful.

[@ontrous]

Again Andrew, brilliant work. Anyone with the balls to have these conversations and talk about these issues deserves 100% support

[@suszannebrooks4523]

I found Heretics 6 months ago and I find all your content relevant and interesting. The respect and kindness you project allows your guest to speak openly and honestly. Sometimes at the detriment of the guest’s platform and lays bare their hypocrisy. Well done.

[@LinaGenX]

In about 1/3 of commercials here in Norway you will see a black person, but we have a tiny black population. What we don't see a lot of is ppl with roots in Pakistan or other Asian countries, who do make up a significant portion of the population. It's weird

[@chichikov617]

its roughly the same in UK.

[@thinfourth]

2/3rds feature white people Come to the UK We are no where near that many white devils in adverts

[@autotransportbroker]

Same thing in the USA. We have lot's of Asians, and Latinos (mixed people with a high portion of Native American), but you hardly see them in political positions of power, commercials, music, sports, movies, and television news shows.

[@doesntmatter7485]

There's two things going on there I believe: 1) ad agencies are cowards and are scared of offending Asians by depicting them in the wrong way; 2) Asian immigrant culture pushes their children into high-paying, stable jobs, and being an actor is not one of them

[@t-nutz3370]

So black people that want to be on TV move to Norway an you'll get all the jobs

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

At 4:01, Andrew obliterates her huge claim that diversity isn't fair in the boardroom, and, in silence, she just sits there and stalls. She had to come up with SOMETHING. She can't just sit there and go, "Oh, woops, I've been thoroughly mistaken and given how big a complaint I just made, I now look pretty damn foolish and amateur". The facial expression says it all. She's reaching round for reasons, and the tennis rambling is the best she can do to get out of the whopping big falsehood that she's laid a load of racist grievance baggage on.

[@stuartmcmillan9004]

I paused at 4:03, you can see it in her eyes that some sort of cogs are turning inside to come up with an answer. We have seen how bad her maths is from past punditry.

[@Salipenter1]

Very surprised you used the term “reverse racism.” You should not normalize the use of this term. It’s just racism. I understand you want to describe anti-white racism. So say that. Reverse racism entrenches the idea that racism primarily moves from whites to non-whites. Any human of any color can be racist.

[@cyclicozone2072]

Well said

[@chrisbfreelance]

Correct, it's problematic.

[@distortionhead37]

Reverse racism, to irrationally love and praise someone based on race?

[@zeddez1005]

Anti-whitism.

[@nursejoed]

In the US, the lefty language police have changed the definition of racism such that a member of a minority group can't actually be guilty of being racist.

[@amarbaha]

Love the show Andrew, pure gold (ha ha)! I am a male, West Indian, East Indian, Canadian Brit, and CEO of several companies I started myself. I have had hundreds of people work for me all over the world: men, women, gay, straight, white, black and every shade of the rainbow and Christians, Jews, Muslims etc etc. And speaking of rainbows, I have had gay, trans etc working for me DECADES before this woke ideology came into the mainstream. Do you know why? BECAUSE THEY WERE TALENTED AND WERE SUITABLE FOR THE JOB! NEVER once did I care or ask about their "ideology" I asked "can you do the job?" I am a minority in every sense of the word and never once did I expect someone to give me any advantage in life because of my skin colour. In fact just the opposite, I faced DISCRIMINATION when applying for the same education everyone else was applying for by having to score 10-20% higher for the SAME slots (look at the Harvard admissions case for reference and as an example). Entrepreneurs like me, in their 50s, who love to and have a knack to start multiple businesses and create HUNDREDS of jobs potentially; just DON'T want to go through the effort and the current nightmare BS and deal with this "Emperor has no clothes" attitude with DEI. Society is losing out because MEN like me (Asian for you Brits) are basically considered quasi-white men and are now vilified for our "apparent leg up for business." But is it racist of me to say and assume that Asians are better per capita at starting businesses even though STATISTICS and SCIENCE states that fact as a percentage of the overall population relative to the number of businesses we own and operate? Maybe we just like business as a culture and have a talent (to quote your guest) for it. Those are UK and global statistical FACTS but no one wants to talk about anymore because it puts one race ahead of another. It has NOTHING to do with feelings, they are just FACTS. Keep up the great journalism Andrew and fight a good fight.

[@debbiedawson8109]

Well done Andrew for circling back through this interview. I squirmed when I watched it the first time round at her convoluted logic and self importance. I admired how respectful, tolerant and patient you were with her. I’ve worked for years in senior HR and I despair at the DEI nonsense. I also teach HR courses for young practitioners and I’m always pointing out that it’s not HR’s job to promote and advocate for these ideologies. I’m all for people being feeling accepted and included in the workplace because they will be productive and satisfied, but with diversity policies and ‘equity of outcome’ rather than opportunity we just risk excluding a new set of people by elevating others. The worst thing too we can do to people is to promote them to jobs they are not competent to perform. We set them up to fail and it causes a lot of human misery - one of the most confronting feelings for humans is incompetence.

[@deejay1169]

I have a friend who works in TV, he went for a presenter job and was told 'No, they had to employ a black man'

[@KarenG.-qs7wc]

That's exactly why my tv went in the bin.

[@JamesScholes]

Just get your friend to identify as a black man - problem solved! And if they disagree with your friend's new identity then get your friend to call 'em a bigot and a racist. That normally does the trick...

[@SquirtlePower809]

No joke at all-- I was turned down for my DREAM JOB last year for a teaching position at a college ONLY because I was whyte. And I know this for a fact, because after I made it through FOUR interviews and 2 teaching demonstrations, they ended up closing the search and not hiring me because HR said they did not meet their quota for racial diversity in the applications...... It wasn't even about like a situation where it was down to me and blk candidate or something. I was their top pick that they submitted to hire and were shut down by HR and DEI because there were not enough blk applicants in the pool....

[@evolassunglasses4673]

We live under a anti White regime now.

[@helendancelot]

​@@SquirtlePower809what country

[@derekgoldsmith2730]

Our adverts are simply black pride month every time they come on. DEI.

[@livce84]

😮

[@WangiRootz]

This is some of the most well balanced analysis of the woke hypocrisy. Well done mate! Good analysis, logical and the best part was not to belittle your guest. Looking forward to more material like this.

[@siegeupon5894]

Unlikeable is as unlikeable does

[@lilywindermere5358]

Right on, Andrew! I discovered your channel a few months ago and have enjoyed all of your discussions. Here's to more views and subscribers!

[@darteification]

I absolutely love this kind of interview. You were perfect. You let her talk through her opinions and respectfully pushed back where you disagreed without shutting down the conversation or attacking her character.

[@reezlaw]

Andrew is an amazing interviewer. He never interrupts and he's always as charitable as possible. In so many occasions I would have been unable to contain myself from saying "are you fucking serious", all he did was ONE "really!?"

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

Honestly I wish Destiny was like this. Off topic I know.

[@matthewsmith6051]

I've lived in London for 25 years and, barring one unpleasant incident, all the racism I've seen and personally experienced has been from black folks.

[@williamdew7143]

....and it never crossed your mind that YOU might be the problem?

[@matthewsmith6051]

@@williamdew7143 Make your comment make sense.

[@SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq]

@@matthewsmith6051 Makes perfect sense to me. Too much to ask for a racist to recognise himself, I suppose?

[@chloedemure]

I love the idea of you doing a reaction and response to your own interviews and what you thought and felt about it. That was a painful one because of her you were calmer than i would have been.

[@Chris-og3kw]

She is right it is racist that she got the job

[@oceanpier]

I totally agree with you, Andrew. I found her arguments very frustrating and circular. Lying with statistics is the oldest trick in the book -- so divisive. In the 90's ' positive discrimination ' became prevalent in certain sectors of the workforce. The Helping careers, specifically, saw a rise in hiring people with any kind of physical disabilities over experience and academic qualifications. It does a diservice to anyone outside of that criteria who have given their lives to the wellbeing of their community and, more importantly, people who can give that community the very best resources and support.

[@lizfrost2562]

The azzumption....wow. this women turns everything to her view

[@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis]

She'd probably call me racist just for eating white bread !

[@14caz68]

Meritocracy isn’t racist. Time meritocracy was reinstated.

[@newforestpixie5297]

Not before the lady has done a stint playing drums whilst touring with a Norwegian Black Metal outfit. All in the interest of diversity & non meritocracy ! 🐢

[@newforestpixie5297]

…& giving Black Metal an added dimension 😮

[@calstonjew]

Look up IQ statistics between races.

[@makara80]

‘Meritocracy isn’t racist’ - Many on the dysfunctional Left seemingly disagree whilst apparently oblivious to the bigotry of low expectations they’re peddling. 😉 That’s what treating victimhood (both real and imagined, more likely the latter of course) as a bartered commodity does to you I guess…

[@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob]

@@calstonjew Yes, the can of worms that must be kept closed...

[@krisushi1]

Andrew, you're right! After my hair has been torn into a bundle around me, I am speechless as to why this woman could possibly think of this interview as a success. I'm not giving her any free passes, as the words are coming straight from her mouth. Honestly, she was unable to even construct an intelligent sentence to use in what was meant to be a debate on a subject that she is passionate about. Andrew, you need to get yourself on Sky News Australia!!! Why do you think so many from around the globe are addicted to this source? Due to their anti-woke stance! I was taught all of my life to become a better and more educated person to obtain my goals, one needs to work hard to obtain these. I am utterly outraged that so many are handed jobs on a silver platter purely for the sake of filling a diversity quota and I'm so sick and tired of it. I've recently had to fill out a whole bunch of forms. Guess what the first question I'm asked for each is? I'm sure what you're thinking is 100% correct as I'm unable to write it here or my comment will be removed by the woke. I became so angry yesterday from starting to watch a short travel show from within Australia. They couldn't just write the name of the town they were visiting, yet add underneath what tribe/people the country had belonged to before colonists! Aren't we all Australians here? Unless some have been living under a rock, we are all well aware that this country was occupied by its indigenous peoples for around 65,000yrs ago! We don't need to be reminded every few seconds who lived on the land hundreds of years before colonisation. I was watching a video yesterday about the hijacking of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 in 1996. The audience was reminded that Ethiopia was a rare country that had escaped European Colonisation. Now, take a good look at this country's past and ask yourself why it never amounted to anything by themselves? If all of these people originating from Africa are so immensely intelligent, then why is the entire continent in the terribly bad shape it is? I'm already yelling out loud despite living alone and giving myself another headache after yesterday's outbursts. Sure, I'll call the television station that the woke travel show was on come Monday morning, but what is that going to do if no-one else speaks out? I have a very loud voice and when I speak, people listen, as they know that I am educated to speak on the topic at hand. I am only one person and desperately pleading to all others who are against the unqualified being handed jobs/placements that they have not earnt based purely on diversity quotas to speak out about how unjust this is. Andrew, I said from the beginning of your Heretics Channel that it's a great idea but for us in the comments, it's that much harder to actually say what we think due to our comments being removed at the drop of a hat. Just persist in what you are doing and show the people that woke is not the way, nor is diversity quotas. Okay, now that I'm fuming it's time for a good stiff drink! Cheers mate.🇦🇺🕊🥃

[@KarenBradford-rl2oo]

Here in the US, an Ethiopian immigrant told me "Ethiopia is poor because we weren't colonized".

[@krisushi1]

@@KarenBradford-rl2oo There you have it, straight from the horse's mouth. I heard similar things said by native South Africans when they had control of the country. "We were better off when the white-man ruled". These are only things I've heard and isn't necessarily my point of view. It only shows how disconnected this woman is to those literally battling to live every single day.💖

[@Madonnalitta1]

​@@KarenBradford-rl2ooI've heard the same about South Africa from a South African. He said "I wish the British had never left".

[@COJY06]

She is living a wealthier more privileged life than probably most people in this comment section.

[@LS-xs7sg]

She is a coloniser who is privileged by the overarching system of public morality that discriminates in her favour and against the native population

[@evolassunglasses4673]

We live under a anti White regime now unfortunately.

[@garyphisher7375]

Against a certain class - the newcomers are making a lot of money for those at the top.

[@andywrong3247]

Andrew said to her do you want me too throw you a life jacket or a piece of rope.we all know which she choose. The bit I find the hardest to believe she was a grade A student @ the bar.i certainly wouldn't pay her in tap washers for her advice.

[@MrAgonizomai]

Ah, but the whites have had dominance here for hundreds of years! Didn’t you know that England in the Middle Ages was 99.9999% white? How exclusive was that? Even when slaves came to this country it was just a couple of decimal places difference. Whites have dominated right up to and after the Windrush generation, and you still see 73% white in some positions according to Andrew’s statistics in this piece. So black people are only 3% of the population. Isn’t that in itself evidence of racist attitudes? DEI’s job will not be done until the population itself is 50% Afro-Caribbean, 50% black African, 50% Asian, 50% Chinese and East Asian, 50% Middle Eastern/North African and 50% southeast European. B****r the whites, they can always move to another country if they don’t like it here. PS: in case anyone can’t see this, I’ll say it explicitly-this is a send-up of the DEI idiocy and the racism of anti-racism.

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@garyphisher7375 When members of that class of businessmen are of native stock we should refer to them as collaborators. When they are foreign they should be referred to as colonisers. We need to relentlessly frame things in this way if we are to survive as a people

[@user-cm8en8or1p]

She knows she is where she is based on the colour of her skin rather than her ability, and she wants us to all play along with her that that isn't really the case and pretend to think that she's a great footballer and a great presenter. It's all so tiresome.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Well done, Andrew, this chunk of interview will become an invaluable resource in arguing back. Well-handled in the interview and well-analysed deconstruction.

[@teaonyj]

No one should ever get a job because of quotas ..... It should always be given on merit. The best person for the job got the job. Not to make up a quota.

[@teaonyj]

I bet in Africa the board members are predominantly black?

[@BOONERBOYO]

there's no such thing as 'reverse racism' - it's just racism.

[@borisdorofeev5602]

"I'm amazing and successful and oppressed and you're racist" - the interview. I definitely blame her, she is not a child and not dumb.

[@Lamedvavnik]

I disagree. I think she is dumb. She genuinely believes she’s smart and has earned everything she’s got. She may have blinkers on to her own privilege but she doesn’t strike me as intelligent at all.

[@honkytonk4465]

She's dumb and racist and privileged

[@alexiasimmons1]

Perfectly put 👏

[@Watch-Crazy]

I've been struggling to get work due to DEI, since January I've applied for roughly 300 jobs, more than 70% have had DEI forms asking for my age, skin colour, religion, pronouns, sexual preferences, if I have come from a poor or wealthy background, if I went to private school, if I was the first to go to university... I didn't get one reply. So, I setup a fake LinkedIn profile as a trans women, with instead of 18 years experience, I put just 2 years, and put down a fraction of the desired skills, I then applied for 6 of the same roles and within 3 hours I not only received a reply, I was asked when I would be available for an interview. DEI is a major issue!

[@pathacker4963]

Great experiment.

[@Watch-Crazy]

@@pathacker4963 Thanks

[@gwensteddy2038]

Put a ribbon in your hair and turn up for the interview 😉

[@Watch-Crazy]

@@gwensteddy2038 I'm bald

[@gwensteddy2038]

@@Watch-Crazy even better glue it on or wear a wig lol

[@thewiseone9068]

Your back story changed your career direction and simply illustrates the consequences of DEI policies. You suffered injustice and it has had many positive consequences. Good job AG!

[@KnottyCeltic]

She called him privileged yet she was the one that grew up in money and had all the best opportunities and schools to get to the top. Of course her skills and perseverance were paramount but she had a leg up to begin with that 99%+ black or POC never have. That's the pot calling the kettle black, no pun intended.

[@AnnalyFaith]

The cognitive dissonance to the end! This was a complete car crash for her! In no uncertain terms did she do well! I couldn’t watch to the end. She was so blind to her hypocrisy and nonsense, it was too painful. She’s definitely a sports person but I would have said gymnastics the knots she was tying herself into. With her logical reasoning. intellect and blindness to the cult mentality, I wouldn’t want her as my lawyer

[@toffy1952]

I agree, it was hard to watch her contort herself verbally into a position that was impossible to defend without lying or contradicting herself from what she had said moments earlier. Questioning the validity of Andrew’s story was the biggest hypocrisy, to then expect him and audience to believe that DEI didn’t exist or was not one of the reasons why she has advanced so rapidly in the media was truly mind blowing.

[@gipgap4]

That’s the majority of footballers for you unfortunately. Not particularly academically smart but were successful because they can kick a football quite well.

[@sole__doubt]

@@toffy1952 Orwell called it Double Think in 1984.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

@@toffy1952especially as one of their go to arguement is “this is my truth”… they can state the lost jobs and opportunities because of colour or institutional racism without proof, but he can’t.

[@tractordamage5272]

@@QuotidianStupidity Black culture is rife with 'Narcissist Personality Disorder'. Hence Black Narcissists DIRECTLY Project their own mindsets and behaviour. Almost everything a Leftist Black Narcissist says...is 'Projection'. They are describing themselves.

[@user-um3dl1ic7n]

Diversity quotas are the biggest load of shit. Ive worked in hr and have been directed to hire people that had zero suitability to the job to meet a quota. There were far more experienced applicants, it is racism and i genuinely resent it. Especially when they present someone elses work as their own.

[@sagitpiken7803]

I’m a nurse and I got fired because I’m white . Except I’m actually Israeli , so not exactly white . But the DEI department decided I made a racial comment . Patients suffered at the end .

[@Lamedvavnik]

I work for a council in England. 2 years ago all the staff received an email for a DEI development program (the aim was to offer training and guidance to minorities to get more minorities in manager roles) well I’m white and didn’t know what DEI stood for. The email never once mentioned race, so I thought it was just a program to help people upskill. I turned up on the day and everyone in the room looked at me. I sat through the entire thing and at the end the organiser said to me, we don’t actually include Eastern Europeans in our DEI development (I’m English but I guess I look foreign 😅). I complained to HR that it was racist and they simply took the stance “no it’s not, diversity is good, if you disagree then maybe you’re racist” not in those exact words but not far off.

[@kofi699]

Kudos to your HR. You are indeed racist

[@Madonnalitta1]

​@@kofi699please say you're not in our country.

[@M4djock]

Not​@@kofi699

[@Kalleesto]

I hated that interview - for all the right reasons. She's a monster. My opinion ofc. I would say she's old enough to know better but I think she's just nasty all up. It's her tactics. Gaslighting, outright lying, deflecting and manipulation a decent person does not do. She treated you like shit. No Empathy. She can disappear off the face of media tyvm.

[@Crashed2023]

Yep, and arrogant enough to think that it went well, meaning she did a good job! Total racist narcissist.

[@kofi699]

A monster? 😂 I love racists

[@OoxB505]

Old enough? She’s 37!

[@thedevine7963]

She's not the problem here. As a black woman she faces a lot more than this white man will ever face in his life. The biggest shocker is that UK employers are planting seeds of racial hatred when they tell white man they will not get a job because they have to hire a black person. That's racits.

[@jcb1728]

Kudos for your calm questioning Andrew, when I first watched the whole interview my mind had difficulty making sense of the mental gymnastics that her arguments required. I'm happy to see this clip and know that such a great number of people were also disturbed by her/the twisted logic of her arguments. Glad to have found your show, keep up the good work.

[@airwolf8915]

They don't need footballers in the boardroom, they need businessmen/women 😊

[@shawngarber8155]

I could not watch her for the whole episode. It was aggravating

[@grannygreensocks6675]

Me too.

[@XENUGOLFCLUB]

I watched every second of it to see if she answered a numbers based question - she didn’t. Numbers are her downfall. She has no interest in facts or numbers, just promoting her waffle

[@rachaelhalliday1193]

I was the same.

[@fibessnaredrum2775]

​@XENUGOLFCLUB yet she brags how intelligent she is. Odd

[@beckywarwick8691]

It really was. She’s clearly a very smart person, but she was acting incredibly stupid.