Most Japanese Pr8stitutes Came From One Infamously Perverted Place (Edo Period)

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[@fattiger6957]

For context why East Asians consider pale skin beautiful, it has to do with class dynamics. Poor people had to work all day in the fields, thus they would get tanned. Rich people could stay inside, or in the shade all day, and remained pale. Therefore, pale skin was considered a sign of wealth and prosperity. That idea burrowed its way deeply into East Asian culture and that's why in China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc, pale skin is still considered desirable. Source: my (not vain) Vietnamese mom and my (very vain) grandma.

[@AGS363]

It was the same in Europe until about 1950.

[@stevqtalent]

is it changing though? i would think urban Japan and Korea (probably china too) at least are rich enough for younger people to associate pale skin with having to be in the office all day and tan skin to represent the ability to travel and take time off.

[@toxicdermyillunary4103]

​@@stevqtalent unfortunately not really. As they say, the idea burrowed its way deep into East and South East Asian culture. Eventhough now the appeal of paler skin doesn't correlate to wealth anymore, It is still true, richer people now is still paler in general. Money provide better skincare and beauty salon. Tho, never over generalize. Many East and South East Asian love tanner skin and let's be real. Love isn't just physical, this is talking about sex work industry anyway.

[@fattiger6957]

@@stevqtalent like I said, the idea is deeply rooted in East Asian culture. I consider it more of a cultural carry over nowadays. Everyone knows that broke people can be pale and rich people can be tanned.

[@revinaque1342]

​@@stevqtalent No, not really. Rich people can afford better skin whitening treatments. Here in the Philippines, when an actress starts out with brown skin, her skin becomes significantly whiter as she becomes more successful. It's mainly thanks to glutathione IV drips, and probably topical whitening treatments too

[@theshizl4400]

_"So dark, is was almost pulled over by the Police."_ That had me do a spit take 😂

[@CesRaisons]

Made me do a double take lmao

[@mittenista]

Almost as dark as the joke

[@Skeloperch]

So dark it commits over 1/2 of the crime despite being only 1/8th of the population.

[@Drumminmydayaway]

Niigata, as described in 1841 in The Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant - volume 3: "Niigata was a flourishing place, making its wealth through all its brothels. They were built roof to roof and, like normal houses, wherever and however people saw fit. It did not discriminate high from low among its guests. Geishas sang and played the shamisen seductively, and the jesters chanted and drummed to excite and entertain. Here, one could not distinguish nighttime from daytime."

[@Jeff-gj7ko]

Looks like Niigata was truly a city that never sleeps and now we all know why!

[@akl4709]

Never sleeps but spends a lot of time in bed

[@WERNUTZ]

Oh they all were in bed but none were sleeping 😂

[@aliasfakename3159]

He says the most out-of-pocket things with a monotone. It's simple but effective in making me choke on my morning coffee.

[@ferretyluv]

It’s called deadpan.

[@TheOGSovereignDomiTheyTrix]

“A history so dark it could be pulled over by the police” dawg I was literally washing my dog when I caught this line and just FROZE, holy shit I’ve been watching you for years and that might be one of the most outta pocket and best jokes you’ve ever pulled 😂😂😂💀💀💀

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Woman : walks down the street in multiple layers of colorful and highly ornate clothes and artistic accessories People : “Gasp!! Would you think of the children??”

[@LoneWulf278]

😂

[@awilli182]

"An empire can not be run on thirst alone." - Xiran Jay Zhao

[@Artkatie]

When my mom said echigo to me i knew our family was broke.

[@Linfamy]

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[@dannylo5875]

It got so bad that I guess Japan didn't ban stuff outright until the early 1900s. There was a case where Japanese women were selling internationally all over the world, and these women ended up working all over the world. Especially throughout Asia. Japan realized this trade and did its best to end it after realizing how horrific some of their women were being treated. Also, some of the lower poor end Christian classes were not shy about sending their daughters or even their sons into exploitation. A lot of women came from lower classes who were not with the ruling classes and also these areas of Japan sold their own poor citizens into slavery.

[@arianekelly2633]

Taking advantage of the vulnerable is by horrible people in power is pretty much universal.

[@rocky_red_ant]

The strategy of scouring poor areas for people to exploit is still common, especially in the US-They’re called military recruiters

[@Adam-326]

Ha. Ha. Ha. No need to take a dig at the military. That’s a common and effective strategy that’s used all over.

[@Ethan7s]

In WW2 and prior, aristocrats all joined the military.

[@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236]

@@Ethan7sand they were generally given better roles and higher positions than the “peasants” who joined before them.

[@Ethan7s]

@@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236 Yes, because they pay in blood. Young male nobles died at a much higher rate than peasants in war for most of history.

[@andrewpatton5114]

The military's too high tech these days to rely on desperate people. They want people who are seeking opportunity, but only if they've graduated high school and are somewhat athletic and don't have any significant medical issues. If they can't train you to use their tech, you're no use to them, and likewise if you can't keep up with the physical demands of the job.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

7:24 "Fishermen and sailors stopped at this port for trade, "coming" with full smiles, and leaving with empty wallets." 😅 Also: "It was the Walmart of women! The Costco of courtesans! The Hooters of wh--" 😂😂😂

[@LoneWulf278]

😂

[@youremakingprogress144]

What a life - your family sells you like a horse, and you still feel like you owe it to them to accept it.

[@GerardMenvussa]

And then you let people ride you like a horse for a living. All that because your region's economics were not "stable".

[@cam4636]

I think it was more along the lines of "hey, rather than all of us starving together, we can all afford to eat!" Or really, "it's my father's job to decide my future, and this is a future where I have a roof over my head and clothes on my back, at least during the daylight hours"

[@anqeal]

yoshiwara higanbana (from the thumbnail) is actually a really good game and does a good job showing the harshness of the industry

[@Tsuki17]

Thank you! Was hoping someone knew the thumbnail. You're a rockstar!

[@spidernevi]

Oo it's otome but seems like it pictures the life at pleasure district a lot. Interesting, Idk why I'm so interested in this part of history though 😂

[@LoneWulf278]

@@spidernevi probably because we don’t learn about it in formal education. 😂

[@jerict8726]

Does this game have an english version?

[@anqeal]

@@jerict8726 unfortunately not, but it's really easy to set up an auto-translator to read along and the quality isn't bad for the most part. i use textractor and a free deepl token

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I love my Sakura box every month. I even keep the boxes because they're so well made I can't bear to throw them out.

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lol my friend also keeps the boxes 😂

[@christopherg2347]

Reminds me of "every sperm is sacred" from Monty Python. "Okay, off to medical testing."

[@joellefujioka4214]

I only stay for Linfamy ads cause they’re actually entertaining

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Yes a new video🎉

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Woohoo!

[@nont18411]

Meiji Restoration seems like the most pivotal moment in the modern Japanese history, considering that it turned Japan from a third world country like in this video into a first world country overnight. Japan owes so much of its development to Emperor Meiji and the Satcho alliance.

[@bigorna4875]

Everywhere was "third world country" at the time by today's eyes

[@jonathanbowers8964]

To be fair, the economic growth brought about by the peace and stability of the Edo period (when Japan's population expanded greatly), played a major role in allowing the Meiji restoration to happen. Late Edo period Japan was about as developed as 17th century Golden Age Holland (in terms of institutions and economic productivity) and thus was only about 200 years behind the "Western World". Prior to the Edo period, Japan was a feudal society plagued by warfare and disorder. While the Edo period shut off Japan from the outside world (well they did still have a small trade outpost for Dutch merchants), it also brought the peace and stability necessary to build up the workforce and social institutions necessary for breakneck, rapid industrialization. To put it in terms of Civilization (the video game), Japan spent the Edo period investing in its food production, gold production (economic institutions), and culture (social institutions) that allowed it to leapfrog once the Americans arrived in the 1850s. Lastly, Japan was still pretty poor prior to the economic boom of the 1950s and 1960s (at least by European standards). At the outbreak of WWI, Japan's GDP per capita was 1/4 of the US and on par with Eastern Europe and Latin America at that time. Sure it was more than triple that of China at that time, but it was by no means a rich country until the 1960s.

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@@jonathanbowers8964 before the war?

[@Intelligence_Failure]

that is not what those words mean. first, second and third world are not meant to be a rac°st rating system, they are cold war allegiance categories. the first world was the US empire and capitalist allies, the second world was the soviet empire and communist allies, and the third world were neutral and contested states. japan was a first world country from the moment that was a thing by way of US occupation.

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❤ Linfamy posted another great video ❤

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Hope you enjoyed it

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​@@LinfamyI did!

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@@Linfamyand so did I!

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*fujiwara clan copy pasta in the background*:

[@jvharbin8337]

So basically in Niigata anyone could slang that P as long as they paid the right people for the privilege.

[@honey3762]

Thank you for making these videos

[@cw3086]

I used to live in Niigata. It's a rough history but definitely full of wonderful people and beautiful nature today

[@GreenParsimony]

My ancestors are from Niigata and my complexion is pasty pale; this video makes me proud of my roots.

[@26SheaD]

Brillant work, as always Linfamy

[@mathieuleader8601]

in the 60's and 70's we Brits had a series of saucy movies called Carry On Films after watching this video I want a Carry On Movie where they went to Japan like Carry On Kaiju for example.

[@Harrihanzo]

Love your videos. They make me quite literally laugh aloud. When you used “KZbinrs” as an example to try and explain prostitution in pre-Meiji era Japan I almost cried. From laughter.

[@Harrihanzo]

Not in this video.

[@miriam_rc]

"so broke they begged buddhist monks for food" 💀

[@Scgod2]

I have been missing your videos :( I really hope you can continue to post more videos soon. Also, do you plan to visit Japan in the near future?

[@nont18411]

Truly an Echigo heritage. Uesugi Kenshin would be proud.

[@mattcgw]

Forbidden Ichigo more like.

[@azuchiprincess666]

I was so sad thinking about him :((

[@cerverg]

It's called Echi-go for a reason

[@christianweibrecht6555]

Did pre-modern Japan ever try to significantly improve its food production? Ex: experimenting with new agricultural methods or turning wilderness into farmland

[@molybdomancer195]

Japan has a limited amount of usable farmland. Much of the country is too mountainous to be able to be cultivated

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@@molybdomancer195the incan empire:

[@Drumminmydayaway]

There are theories that the Yokote Basin is man made, as there is evidence that it was once a wetland and there is folklore describing how people dug out the mouths of the rivers to lower the water level. This is all just speculation though, as it would have happened long before recorded history.

[@ferretyluv]

They did. They did so well that in an economy based on rice it caused inflation.

[@justinkauffman731]

Where's Zatoichi when you need him? Poor girls. 😢

[@saymyname2417]

This matter would have needed social reforms, not a serial killer.

[@justinkauffman731]

@@saymyname2417 take that back! Ichi created many social reforms. Have we forgotten about Boss Gonzo?! Come on! Go Ichi!!!

[@saymyname2417]

@@justinkauffman731 - I have seen a couple of episodes of this series but I am not really familiar with it. So, Idk about Boss Gonzo. Ichi is a strange character I'm not in love with and I am not wild about the actor, either but those episodes directed by the actor himself are interesting. They are different from the rest. But he always wreaks havoc in the name of good. As a regular action star. The selling and offing of the littlest was a massive problem which would have required a change in society on more than one level and killing countless men doesn't exactly help fighting poverty - it FUELS the matter even more. Because who is taking care of the many widows and orphans who have nobody to feed them anymore?! Anyway, you have a great Sunday and new week ☀️!

[@enib5989]

Damn, why is the history of Japanese sex work actually really darn interesting. I'm going to have to put my project reaserching the oragins of Canadian cheezes on hold in order to dive into this one. In seriousness though, out of curiosity, do you know where a lot of primary sources for this stuff comes from (like would brothels keep records? or, is there any writing from these ladies of pleasure themselves or do we mostly know about them from others writing about them), i feel like it'd be really interesting Sorry for going on a bit, love the videos

[@Linfamy]

We don't have much writing from the women themselves, but we do have writings from clients, brothel records, and government records/edicts.

[@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236]

@@Linfamyyou know public order is bad when prostitution shows up in the government’s edicts… And also when timmy knows more women than you.

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The latest Sakuraco was great, especially the mango jelly 😋

[@darthmop1]

but you guys also the first to have finished watching the full video, heh? 😂 Thanks for your new addition, great video as always

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Hope you enjoyed it :)

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@@Linfamy I certainly did. I like the visuals and your way of narration in the videos nowadays with a sprinkle of comedy. I think it is perfect, funny but not silly. Keep it on.

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Dude ended with spread the knowledge like we wouldn't catch on.

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New video pop ups and I smile

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Thanks for sharing

[@share.theworld]

Thank you so much that was so interesting and explained very well as usual

[@Linfamy]

Glad you like!

[@TalesofDawnandDusk]

What was Niigata called in old times again? Was it Musashi, or did I mishear that? Whatever it is, I want to keep an eye out for when it pops up in the Heian period stories and see if this predilection for prostitution is even older than the Edo period. As you read some of these things, it becomes apparent why certain places become famous for specific things, like after making a bunch of videos on the warriors in the east during the Heian period, it's no surprise that the Kamakura and Tokugawa Shogunate decided to headquarter themselves in the east: most of the warriors were concentrated in one area. I wonder if the same goes for ladies of the night.

[@bclxprss]

Musashi is the province where Edo is, until the Meiji restoration redrew provinces and Edo became Tokyo

[@TalesofDawnandDusk]

@@bclxprss Then what was Niigata called historically?

[@ferretyluv]

Musashi Province is where Edo was. Niigata was in Echigo province, famed for Uesugi Kenshin.

[@WanJae42]

Are you thinking about Jouetsu? It sort of overlaps the area

[@st__pt]

Love your videos ❤ Funny, cute, and educational 😍 One thing that pops into my head a lot is how Asian women used to tolerate those massive hairstyles and many accessories?! It looks pretty, but it must cause headaches, neck pains, cleaning difficulties, etc.

[@Linfamy]

On the other hand...you get to look fabulous!

[@Bildgesmythe]

Your humor is brilliant!

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Maybe the greatest sponsor segment I've ever seen!

[@suzystar3]

Feels illegal to be this early

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I just found out bout this channel. Holy what I have been missing lol

[@Linfamy]

Welcome. First rule of the channel is you must sacrifice a Pokemon.

[@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236]

I sacrifice Charizard to the graveyard to summon Blue Eyes White Dragon in attack position!

[@Bildgesmythe]

So much binge watching to do!

[@GarGhuul]

Remember: a “proper” lady has her kimono fastened in the back, and cannot undo it herself. Or so legends say.

[@dannylo5875]

If you were to scratch your back. And if you had a reason. Mmm.

[@Mortablunt]

It just means you gotta tap it in the mouth or from behind!

[@Nonamearisto]

TL;DW: Women from Niigata City were broke and beautiful (light skinned in Japan was preferred), and thus cheap and desirable. This is messed-up for so many reasons.

[@CesRaisons]

Kind of late but another amazing video! Niigata is basically Las Vegas from what Im hearing

[@topazbutterfly1853]

The Japanese have been debating pro life pro choice since the Edo period 💀

[@cathrinewhite7629]

"Illegal" pr○$t¡tutut¡on"? What was the difference between the illegal, and all the legal ones? Let me guess...taxes??😉

[@Bloodlyshiva]

'all the legal ones' What legal ones?

[@cathrinewhite7629]

He talked about it in another vid..something about the hierarchy & types of geishas in Japan. And they werent just doing geisha stuff like tea ceremonies. They made lots of $ with the right group of "clientele".

[@lematindesmagiciens8764]

This how history should be taught. Excellent work, funny, irreverent. Reminds me a bit of History Bites, a Canadian series.

[@Sienisota]

I gotta pity them. If they weren't light skinned, maybe the city could've found another way to support itself. Those poor girls...

[@pacificostudios]

This video helps explain why "Echigo" and "Niigata" were not used for naming Japanese warships. A lot of old province names were used, and are used, but I've never heard of a ship named "Echigo" or "Niigata." Some place names have too much stigma.

[@Valorie-df7tg]

Bout time ya uploaded (im excited to watch this)

[@reishiki]

I think it would be interesting if you provide the literal meaning of the kanji words you show since it could gives more insight to those words. Like in this episode, there's a word '後家 (goke)' which iirc made form kanji for 'back, after' and 'house' (I think, with my little knowledge of Japanese :P) so the word might got started from the word for the family that was left behind or something.

[@shaider1982]

4:36 I had to laugh on the guy's explanation.😄

[@J_Gamble]

Fascinating knowledge as always. I always look forward to your content--and appreciating the animation (inanimation?)

[@smakermanster]

I love Niigata. It's the best place in Japan.

[@stuffedninja1337]

I kept saying to myself, “Is it Niigata?” as a joke, and then there was THE BIG REVEAL and I died laughing since I willed it into existence

[@ekamandalaputra5517]

Niigata, where they sell their children just like other side of the world. Just opposite of snowy white

[@nont18411]

Love the irony. The place full of white women is called N**gata.

[@spidernevi]

I wonder how Niigata fixed itself and if the prejudice lingers on. Anyway, this is the mnemonic I came up to remember the places: "Oniichan nagai, ecchi!"

[@patrickdegenaar9495]

Ssdo island just across the bay from Niigata was famous for how the girls used to great men arriving on boats..

[@SillyWillyFan47]

9:50 "... paid much better than flipping Burgers at MacShogun" Papf! LMAO

[@Jobe-13]

Pretty fascinating.

[@pseudonym6387]

And here I thought Echigo province's most famous product was Uesugi Kenshin.

[@azuchiprincess666]

"Product" 💀😭

[@ASMR-Factory]

Hi I I caught my first Pokémon like you told me to do a few months ago😂

[@kalinkap407]

Do horse breeders and the history of the horse in Japan

[@usvidragonslayer3091]

Neat video

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I got an ad for a Prayer app 💀💀

[@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames]

Those "Avocados from Mexico!" commercials are funded by the cartel.

[@benwagner5089]

"It's better to kill the baby young if you can't afford them than to sell the child into prostitution." "There wouldn't be a market for our prostituted children if you didn't kill your own kids at birth." Weirdest flex I've heard from both sides of a debate.

[@dire-decadence]

They have delectable rice if I’m right. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

[@ArkadiBolschek]

13:36 *GASP* _Not_ supply and demand!! D:

[@DeGerps]

This whole episode all I could think of was bleach. 😅

[@Linfamy]

Why Bleach?

[@gazorpazorp9798]

This episode went 0 to 10 fast.

[@MCCS-o3t]

Linfamy talk about Taisho era

[@abdulalhazred3027]

As a Florida Man, You're welcome.

[@azuchiprincess666]

To think this was the place once ruled by Uesugi Kenshin.... makes me sad😢

[@AliceYuuna]

Lessgooo!!

[@Linfamy]

🙌🎉

[@MrGregory777]

Lack of money and beautiful women makes for a bad combination

[@jkarr1412]

Another great video! This is all really fascinating and well-presented...but maybe we could have a video about Japanese women's history that is NOT about prostitution, violence, exploitation and baby-killing? Could we have something about Buddhist nuns and Shinto shrine maidens? Or how about the history of women's education in Japan? Or more profiles of prominent Japanese women? Thank you!

[@m.a.9571]

Linfamy is my favorite Niigata

[@Linfamy]

o.o

[@Ethan7s]

Poor? Still works 😂

[@ProjectEnglishII]

OMG, this is where I live!

[@KyoushaPumpItUp]

I missed the times when I could still memorize the provinces of Japan. I guess it's time to play Shogun 2 again.

[@modarrlock4662]

Niigata can be like an addiction, heal it

[@morganelzey]

5:04 "ordinary people were not killing enough" what does that have to do with the population in that one domain?

[@shriyogsuroshi5429]

In sengoku era echigo was under uesugi kenshin

[@ivanwilliams7413]

💀 at "So dark, they were likely to be pulled over by the police."

[@jessnalulila5552]

I should have expected poverty to be the reason 6:50 that's a issue going on in China and India too

[@Maddin1313]

Bortus: "500 prostitutes!"

[@Eichhornchen14]

"a rock and hard place" Well done

[@marialanagoldsworthy8670]

“They ain’t broke, they’re broke in the head!”

[@mintyfrog4185]

Does the name "echigo" and "echi" the genre have any correlation?

[@christineannclerino4008]

It seems close in anime like demon slayer and Fate samurai remnant game.

[@8BRInteractive]

Thankfully, nowadays Nagaoka is known for high-quality phono cartridges.

[@emilybarclay8831]

They called it Niigata cause their women spent a lot of time on their knees

[@axelpouetpouet]

You set the knee very high, watch your step :)

[@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347]

Knee-gotta go down and do business

[@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236]

I don’t know why, but I was expecting some sort of racist joke.

[@DankRedditMemes]

ECHIgo... hm...

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

Ohhh OOOHHHHHHHHHHH

[@jxhxhkzhjz8032]

Is just really disheartening and sad to see that how women were treated in Japan and how it is glorified and celebrated prostitution was at the time is just nothing but disgusting to me. It just makes me think that how much was cheating and suicide rates of the time

[@HyperRealitySuperFun]

What's with the 4 minute unskippable add?