MOST OVERENGINEERED E-WHEEL - 126 VOLT INMOTION V13 COMPLETE REVIEW

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@sammysokosammysoko
@sammysokosammysoko Жыл бұрын
In the EUC community, people like Adam use the phrase "over engineered" to refer to thoughtful design and high quality materials. It's sad that it gets referred to as though it's a negative thing, when we have things like the rear pins on the Extreme shock bending if the wheel bottoms out, it's not that the V13 is over engineered, it's that most other wheels are under engineered.
@updlate4756
@updlate4756 Жыл бұрын
Multiple riders have broken the shocks on the V13 as well. When he says overengineered, I think he's referring to the raptor controller going above and beyond versus the underpowered motor's actual capabilities; which means it's never really challenged. The pedal folding mechanism that doesn't work all that well. The trolley handle is a nice design, but still not enough to handle the weight of the wheel. There's the hoops you have to jump through to adjust the suspension. The rim that's built like a tank, which is nice, but adds a lot of weight, and this isn't exactly an off-road wheel. Overall, it's a well built wheel with a few big obvious misses, but its capabilities don't live up to all the extra and the high price tag. I will give it to Inmotion with how much fire safety they built into this. The cell separators and waterproofing is definitely a great thing,. The shielding around the batteries, and how much damage this wheel can take and keep running. The smart BMS and dynamic cell balancing is awesome. This stuff is going to become more and more mandatory as building owners crack down on everything PEV due to the inherent catastrophic fire risk. I think this wheel was meant as a test bed for their hardware and software. The wheel was expensive to keep sales low and essentially treat the customers as the testers to work out any bugs. (Reminds me of a company I shall not name, but starts with a T and is run by an a-hole)
@bobdebouwer7835
@bobdebouwer7835 Жыл бұрын
Agree, the V13 is just meeting the bare minimum in vehicle design on just a few aspects. It'll take a decade or two before the word 'over engineered' comes in the picture regarding euc's...
@FinnBjerke
@FinnBjerke Жыл бұрын
Overengineering is a well defined concept. Your attempt to redefine the concept is not overly clever, this review is thoughtfull, your comment is not. V13 is overpriced and range is a bloody laff. I have 6500 km on that wheel its rock solid, but weighs over 50 kiloes which explains the range problem. My v13 have been very stable for seated and very fast riding. - but the price weight and range is bloody ridiculous. The frontlight is OK but blinds ppl, backlight is terrible. In the EUC world we have 1) Overengineering (Inmotion style) 2) Kindergarten engineering (Begode/Kingsong style) 3) Weed-enginnering (Old style MSX..) 4) Badmaterials-engineering (Sherman family) Look out for irony..... Inmotion will upgrade v13 based on the dialogue with EUC community, (V11 is already upgraded) My conclusion: Inmotion is best engineering and they actually have service to customers. V13 is the fastest wheel but they build in Sovjet style safety features, while forgetting simple things like high quality back lights. Still No wheel on the marked is as stable as V13 - I just wonder how long the bearings will live and how difficult upgrading an overengineered wheel is?
@FinnBjerke
@FinnBjerke Жыл бұрын
One definition of overengineering is "the design of a system or component to exceed the requirements of the design specification." This definition suggests that overengineering is a quantifiable concept, as it can be measured by comparing the actual performance of a system or component to its required performance. (From Bard AI) Using bad screws is bad engineering and very very Chinese, A psychologist (such as myself) would say overengineering is the product of an overly nervous engineer. ... Why nervous about v13? Becaouse its the fastest wheel on the marked.
@LS-jk3fk
@LS-jk3fk 9 ай бұрын
if it was an negative thing it'd be more gimmicks over functionality
@todoanteojos8060
@todoanteojos8060 Жыл бұрын
I am a current owner of v11 with 10k and a recently owner with just 700km in my v13, i use both daily. I stepped up to it because i was in need of more head room and speed. It doesnt mean i am always at 80+km/h riding speeds but the peace of mind I get with this wheel knowing i am not stressing safety and wireing components totally outweighs any flaws it may have and other wheels I have owned. When on the streets I feel and see V13 like a real vehicle not a toy like many others. I love components are not being stressed at all, i dont have to be worried about how hard i am pushing it or checking how fast i am going, basically never beeps and always responds. Before v13 i have had for a while kingsong, and i have tried begode and many models before going for v13, and while away from inmotion i was missing it's software safety lots. From my point of view when euc is your main commuting vehicle and you ride at least 50km a day while charging it and storaging it every night under your roof your wheel long term safety and reliability is priority and i dont get that feeling with any other wheel but inmotion. i know its not perfect but for now i dont see any other euc vehicle companies putting so much effort into safety and development as inmotion has, and thats not negotiable for me. When it comes to its weight, it doesnt bother me at all, its in fact still portable, i take it to the subway, bank and all day to day errands with ease. Also its 54kg are actually helpfull, at 50 plus km/h you need that weight in order to have better control of it, under wind gusts you feel stable and its better to counterweight them than with a light wheel. When it comes to range, yes, id like to have a bit more, but it still gets the job done, i manage to get 70 to 80km range daily at fast pase riding which its just about right for city commuting, at 20% battery you can easily hit 65+ km/h speeds. Regarding nimbleness of course its not as agile as a light wheel but i have no complains to it, stable at low speeds, easy to carve and go into traffic, i live in a hectic city and it performs great. We are in front of a real vehicle
@SolarizeYourLife
@SolarizeYourLife 11 ай бұрын
Buy a motorcycle and be registered, licensed, and legal...
@AleGalaxyEUC
@AleGalaxyEUC Жыл бұрын
one hour talking about V13 ? wow ,thanks a lot,i m going to prepare pop corn
@SamClegg
@SamClegg Жыл бұрын
54.50.. I'm still here! Loved the video. I have a v13 and pretty much agree. The sheer comfort of it while riding at high speeds is my no 1. But I'm sad I can't take it on long range rides 😢
@christopherspencer63
@christopherspencer63 Жыл бұрын
Done ~2200km on my v13 and have to agree with all your points. Great video.
@KozakFather
@KozakFather Жыл бұрын
54:46 I'm still here! Cool review waiting for more
@videoogler
@videoogler Жыл бұрын
Im totally happy with my V13. At 63 years old safety is everything. The peace of mind I get with this wheel far outweighs any other wheel I've owned and it has allowed me to reach much higher speeds comfortably as a result. As far as weight and maneuverability, you get used to it...
@gritred5500
@gritred5500 Жыл бұрын
Age is in the mind until you screw up your ankles and then they “click” all the time and you are lucky if that’s about all you which you have to worry. My case is that people or cars (cats are ok I just run them over and they are fine) force me to plan my speed and path and the V13 might need a much larger buffer etc. Do you make emergency turns for obstacles and cars etc? Seems less manageable?
@Bodoczky
@Bodoczky Жыл бұрын
​@@gritred5500 you ran over a cat??? 😢
@videoogler
@videoogler Жыл бұрын
@gritred5500 I try to make it a point to not ride in to much traffic. It does take longer to slow it down for sure...
@Taba
@Taba Жыл бұрын
Wow 🤓 This review was really in depth. I have to say Adam - your technical knowledge is peaty amazing! Please keep up the good work!
@EUCMD
@EUCMD Жыл бұрын
I put 1600 miles on my V11 and was saving for a V13. Now I'm going to put some more thought into it🤔 Thanks for the long term review👍
@Vesataeuc
@Vesataeuc Жыл бұрын
He is reviewing a Demo wheel! I disagree with everything he said about it regarding off-road.
@RetiredInMotion
@RetiredInMotion Жыл бұрын
My recent ride on the V13 for comparison: 65 miles (105km) with 16% battery remaining. Average speed 22MPH (35KMH) with short bursts to 40MPH (64KMH) when I needed to get on the road at a few points. Outdoor temps between 73F and 83F degrees. Battery dropped fast over last 17 miles (27 km) from 37% to 16%. If I hold 50MPH for any sustained length of time then I see much less range. But when out for a mostly relaxed Sunday morning excursion averaging 22MPH then I feel confident knowing I have 70 or so miles to play with.
@M4BALOT
@M4BALOT 11 ай бұрын
Riding weight?
@RetiredInMotion
@RetiredInMotion 11 ай бұрын
@@M4BALOT Geared up: 184 lbs. Good question!
@juhamartikainen3050
@juhamartikainen3050 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for quality review! Adam delivers again ton of useful and practical information. Even I don't consider to buy V13, I felt that I had to make a small $ contribution for that amount of work Adam has made for this review. Valuable information for EUC folks.
@ryleywhit4870
@ryleywhit4870 11 ай бұрын
Hey Adam, I have been watching your videos for years at this point. You were the straw that broke the camels back in regards to my obsession with EUCs getting started. I have been riding for going on 2 years, and have worked my way from a RS19HT (went with HT because how hard you always push torque) quickly outgrew the wheel and range, I live in greater Seattle area, and My EUC is my main form of transportation for work. with the RS i would take the train (27.7) miles one way to work was too much for me on the RS. I got a S22 and started using it as my daily commuter. Couldn't quite manage there and back with 2200w battery pack (I struggle maintaining a reasonable speed). So I bought a fast charger Love the wheel and what its taught me about EUCs. I originally came from scooters, which is how i found your videos. this comment has exponentially increased in length from my original thought, Cant stop now though. I immediately started designing my own 3d printed parts for my RS, power pads mostly. I am now riding an SS and Its incredible the quality jump from the RS19 --> S22, I was blown away at the S22 --> SS quality jump though. I started this comment with the intention of asking you if you would be interested in testing out some pads I designed and currently use over the Patton pads Ewheels provided with my SS. I also have another project I have been working on that I think would be extremely beneficial for your specific use case as a wheel reviewer/tester. Ill include the link to my page where anyone who read through this novel can buy the STL for the pads (They arent even 4 dollars). I feel like I have gotten to the point where I actively need to become a part of the community, rather than continue to Lurk as i have been doing for years. cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/toe-shield-jump-torque-pads (these are my current everyday pads, my Sherman-s/S22 are in the pictures. I love using these for jumping, In which case I remove the upper pad from my SS to free up that space for my legs) cults3d.com/en/3d-model/gadget/whitpads-power-padsv1 (these were my first Designed pads that I used for 90% of my time with my RS, I thought I could kinda change the mold a little with these ones they ended up being mediocre at best) If you would be willing to give them a try, I would print you a set, and ship them to you. thanks
@KevinRedmondWA
@KevinRedmondWA Жыл бұрын
54:44 yeah, still here. Thank you for the video, confirms my decision of not getting a V13 and instead brought a Sherman Suspension.
@c4ristopher
@c4ristopher Жыл бұрын
54:57 Thanks for the review! Just hit 1700 Kilometers on my first wheel, V12HT, and am looking at upgrading to something with suspension, more range, and a slight increase in speed. I looked at the V13 very briefly, but like you said it doesn't have the right weight to power to range ratio for me to justify. I'll probably bably get the Sherman S since it looks like a good mix of range, speed, and reliability.
@NikoAbston
@NikoAbston 14 күн бұрын
I’m you. Did you get another wheel? Curious what you chose.
@c4ristopher
@c4ristopher 14 күн бұрын
@@NikoAbston I had an unexpected shift in finances so had to put off getting a new wheel. The Sherman S was on my list, but the goal post has moved to the Sherman L. It's almost winter time here in Alaska, so I'm hoping I'll be able to get the L for next summer and do some long trips.
@NikoAbston
@NikoAbston 14 күн бұрын
@@c4ristopher oh wow. I just checked that out and indeed that looks like the one. Good luck hope the situation improves. You must have some beautiful countryside to ride on up there!
@TheDownloader86
@TheDownloader86 Жыл бұрын
"timestamp" :D Great video Adam, keep up the great work! I ride V12HT and I love it so much. 5100 km on the clock and no issues. Still rock solid. After 4000km I removed side covers and rear cover (mudguard was badly installed :D) and I tightened the screwes and that is it. No more maintenance. V12HT is so maintenance free wheel. V13 is really not for me, but I know 3 riders of V13 in Czech Republic. One of them sold the the wheel because it was too heave for him, but the other 2 really like it and push it to the 90km/h :D. Maybe this wheel has the place for people how wants to go crazy fast and feel safe in the same time... I am looking forward to the V14 and Extreme comparison, done by you :).
@finlotek
@finlotek Жыл бұрын
Yes I'm still here 55:11 but that's because I value your reviews and opinions on EUC tech more than any other "EUC influencer". I'm a long time fan Adam and I recommend your content to anybody new to the community. Because you tell it like it is, you hold no punches and you give credit where credit is due. You are very thorough and don't tend to gloss over anything that others might. Plus you have an entertaining delivery style that makes it fun without getting too cheesy or trying too hard. I believe you are a true pioneer to the community and will go down in history at least in my book.
@DorjelamaLa
@DorjelamaLa Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait gotway release 168 V wheel 24 inch top speed of 265mph
@grb1969
@grb1969 Жыл бұрын
💯 agreement. The v13 is a great first attempt at a 22” wheel. If the motor, shocks and batteries are redesigned, this wheel will be successful in future iterations. Thanks for the effort. 😅 Your 2700km experience was totally worth an hour of my time. 😂 The IM Challenger’s design, if upgraded beyond the the IM Adventure, will be a formidable value at any price.
@ChrisH0Y
@ChrisH0Y Жыл бұрын
I see in the crystal ball the upcoming Challenger Y - with removable / swappable batteries (between EUCs even!) with the max of 4 battery packs, choose your number for your range - with all 4, you are getting north of 4,000wh. - Master Pro range territory.
@powermatrix6704
@powermatrix6704 Жыл бұрын
54:57 Thanks for the review! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@lenwhatever4187
@lenwhatever4187 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing braking distance. Yes braking distance is not linear ;) not for any vehicle. But 5 meters from 30kmh is within standard for electric cycles with "3 wheels or less".
@skampster
@skampster Жыл бұрын
Fair and accurate review. I thought about buying one but range was its issue, and way too big. The V14 may replace my Sherman Max, maybe……
@squidsleap
@squidsleap Жыл бұрын
54.47 watching til the end was the "WRONG WAY" haha. Agree on all points about this review. Hopefully the safety will be adopted by all the manufacturers. I would like a new wheel, but so far there isn't anything tempting me to replace my RSht. It's been a great wheel (no rain riding) and as much as I like the idea of suspension I don't want the extra stuff making noise and needing extra attention. Looking forward to more begode extream content as that seems to tick my off road boxes. I don't ride a lot of on road these days so I'm after as much torque as possible, and a reliable suspension system that resists bottoming out from the bigger hits. The RS does a good job on the torque but without suspension rough tree root/rocky trail section have to be taken slow. If suspension didn't happen it would still be one of the best for off road but it is there, and I want it. Basically I want an S22 and an RS to make a baby 😂
@Dogo.R
@Dogo.R Жыл бұрын
Higher center of mass does not make it harder to keep upright. In fact higher center of mass makes it slightly easier to keep upright. Gotta look into moment of inertia instead to understand it falling over. Fortnine has a good video on this. Plus you need to control or account for all other variables since there isnt a control group version with only a lower center of mass.
@maukaman
@maukaman 8 ай бұрын
Seems to me that this is true but really only at speed. Slow, technical riding may be a different experience.
@eslachance
@eslachance Жыл бұрын
54:46, yes, Adam, I watched the whole thing. It's great. I appreciate your effort, it was worth it. 👍
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh Жыл бұрын
Love the stopping distance tests. Would love to see more of those. Goes to show what the actual safe speed for an EUC is. The jump from 40 km\h to 50 km\h is +75%!
@whileistillcan9338
@whileistillcan9338 Жыл бұрын
Still here and I appreciate your effort!
@VECTOR_Coasters
@VECTOR_Coasters Жыл бұрын
great video! this wheel seems like an AMAZING wheel for the very small amount of people it’s made for (same with the s19)
@ebpesak
@ebpesak 7 ай бұрын
Well thought out comment. I really appreciated it.
@Laenthal
@Laenthal Жыл бұрын
44:10 Laughed at the sounds way louder than was appropriate :D
@GrooveMan64
@GrooveMan64 Жыл бұрын
54:43 - Thanks for your comprehensive review of the V13! ❤
@Johnnyboiii
@Johnnyboiii Жыл бұрын
54:49, looking forward to v14😁👍
@legyroquoi
@legyroquoi Жыл бұрын
This wheel is amazing Love it a lot, even if yes it's very heavy. And I don't even ride far or fast😂 I like the weird riding feeling of this wheel
@Datvi
@Datvi Жыл бұрын
I'm still here (Timestamp: 54:44)... Also Skeleton inside is called "Endoskeleton".
@BossManaatti
@BossManaatti Жыл бұрын
54:45 still here xDD Great insanely indepth review as always!
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway Жыл бұрын
Woah thanks for watching Boss and thanks for being a member! :)
@djdev91
@djdev91 Жыл бұрын
There is grub screws for the trolley handle. I noticed mine were missing, I am not sure if they were there and fell out or if never was there from the batch 2 order. I requested if there should be screws and they sent me a pair with next day delivery. Purchased through eWheels. On the entire review, I appreciate the honesty of your experience with the wheel, Thanks! Side note, I love my v13 and don't regret the purchase at all. I haven't rode a wheel like this where I feel pretty much 99.99% safe that I am not going to have a high speed cut out or death wobble. The suspension has been holding out well for me as well. I am about 220lbs and I take mine through trails and jumps with no blown suspension rods or leaking yet. My only gripe on this wheel is the way the suspension guides with the 6 per side little plastic rectangle pieces, I have been calling them suspension sliders. I broke one and it wasn't to difficult to replace but did required opening up the battery compartment which I personally feel comfortable doing. The concern I had was they screw on with only 1 tiny screw and they are small plastic pieces that hold the entire suspension in place. When you compare to sliders on other wheels, like the s22, it looks sort of felt like an afterthought. Heavy wheel to be having such small guides for the suspension to travel against. Granted, I saw a video from forward n bak with Bob (CEO at the time of Inmotion) mentioning that they are designing a kit to convert existing v13s to Hydraulic Suspension which I am very hopeful for.
@grb1969
@grb1969 Жыл бұрын
I suspect a major revision of the V13 once the V14 have demonstrated its efficacy. I doubt reworking the existing air strut design will be practical but we'll have to wait and see. the V13 with a FastAce suspension would be plush... and the rear linkage like the V14 and its a keeper.
@haroldsmith45302
@haroldsmith45302 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comprehensive review.
@robertmotion
@robertmotion 6 ай бұрын
ebike enthusiast here. love cc scooters too rode my first onewheel today (the Pint). hooked first ride, but ... saw the v14 this is made for NYC ... getting one soon! /Bklyn👑
@adamtownsend1
@adamtownsend1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, Adam. I didn’t know you were even ripping around on the V13. I have my V11 that I’ll stick to for now after this review. Looking forward to your Adventure review 😉!
@ryosworkshop500
@ryosworkshop500 Жыл бұрын
Yes I'm still here 55:11. Stop judging me I'm watching while I'm eating. XD
@jamesbarry2388
@jamesbarry2388 Жыл бұрын
Seriously 😂 I love my v13 no problems 64 mile range. It’s my favorite ❤️ wheel
@privileguan9127
@privileguan9127 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the remote controlled lock reminds me about one missing feature: A lock, as in a physical block, integrated within the kickstand or trolley handle to chain it somewhere. Or just an integrated mount to fit one of those foldable locks. Plus, if someone tries to turn it on without code/key or take the wheel, let the user be able to record a message shouting from the wheel (at least speakers are not useless that way).
@MrSpeednz
@MrSpeednz Жыл бұрын
When needed, I put my lock through the spokes of the wheel.
@gta.funny1238
@gta.funny1238 4 ай бұрын
54:41 watched till the end, im happy i watched this video i was thinking of saving for the inmotion v13 but im probalbly going to look for something else thats good for someone who hasnt had a EUC
@mikhailkova
@mikhailkova Жыл бұрын
I find your opinion quite objective considering restrictions that comes with that wheel by provider. My original thoughts were that inmotion put a very unpleasant price tag for its whell but when i saw how suspension works then all my enthusiasm about wanting it just flew away. Overpriced and ridiculous toy with some "safety" features.
@coltonthecart
@coltonthecart Жыл бұрын
V13 owner and I am still here
@realvikingsrideelectricuni6054
@realvikingsrideelectricuni6054 Жыл бұрын
great review and love the format !
@djeemetryphebe4303
@djeemetryphebe4303 11 ай бұрын
33:46 Let me correct you and for all those watching. The V-13 is currently the fastest wheel on the market. A Fully unlocked V-13 beats a Master Pro.
@bermudabengal
@bermudabengal Жыл бұрын
54:45 still here
@martinsaunders2942
@martinsaunders2942 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam…I enjoyed as always. I have to agree with you on the V13. IMO it’s a wheel with little appeal to most riders. For myself, I’m just not interested in a 50kg wheel, and I have absolutely no interest in going over 55kph. An EUC is not a suitable vehicle to go fast on..I have a Ducati for when I want to go quicker. And At 50kg, it really isn’t micro mobility anymore…actually, at that size and weight, it must be a bit of a pain to live with. 👍
@leetNightshade
@leetNightshade Жыл бұрын
Speaking of stripping screw heads, torx screws or bust! Oh, and 54:46 👋still here. ;p ...but I skimmed the video. 😅
@sete07
@sete07 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great video
@FabienMathey
@FabienMathey Жыл бұрын
The only thing that stopped me initially was the range! Especially because I would have removed the suspension myself. Now that I looked into it more, and being 115kg with gear and backpack, I need a very strongly braking wheel with range. Ans as you said in the video: 50-60kph is more than enough speed and at the limit of safety for these systems simply due to braking distance. (Race track is different). Lets see what the Adventure (or maybe v14) brings
@phxhwk
@phxhwk Жыл бұрын
Please don't call this wheel "OverEngineered"! It makes EUC manufacturers engineer their wheels less. This should be the minimum level of desiign, engineering and testing that manufacturers do.
@supakat1835
@supakat1835 Жыл бұрын
Adam, stuck it out to 55:10 thanks, for the review. I had a deposit on this wheel, like I did on the S22. I didn't buy either one. I am so done with hype EUC releases. I watch them get released, riders like yourself provide comprehensive reviewsbeyond what I would put an EUC through, & thats greatly appreciated. However the most annoying thing is these EUC manufacturers not listening to their customers, or reviewers like yourself, & making EUC's that fully meet our requirements, which makes me hold off on any new EUC from now on, I will stick with my V11 love hate relationship as long as I can, & just take short trips, & use my car for long trips, which I would like to replace. The first thing that puts me off, not only with the V13 but with other wheels is no street tire option out the box. Spending $4000USD on an EUC that my use case is commuting & I'm replacing a car, so yeah that became a let down when it came with an offeoad tire, & it is a stupid choice by inmotion not to offer an option, as they would probably realize that street tire is more popular, & would compel maybe more riders, but for those that are already pissed they have to take apart a brand new $4000 EUC, that's a pass. The trolley handle design is terrible, that design needed to stop with the v12. They could have integrated a trolley handle that doubles as a seat like the Sherman S. That seat design, & trolley handle is stupid, & they can redeem themselves & update that quick so the wheel doesnt fall into complete obsolescence. The other things I agree with is the headlight needs to tilt, I mean even on the V11Y that's coming out. no tilting light. The charge ports need updating, & the battery capacity. If it had a 4000Wh pack Ithink that would help with range alot. Yeah I was really disappointed with this wheel release, & now I'm looking @ the master pro, but I really hate begode wheels, I think they're all really low quality trash, & resonably unsafe despite their performance. I also never see 1000+km reviews of begode wheels, only Veteran. Again, I hope inmotion & other EUC makers start listening to riders ipdate their exsisting wheels or they will end up like begode saturating the EUC market with wheels every month that dont check all the boxes, & obsolete the following month. Thanks again!
@kwk8363
@kwk8363 Жыл бұрын
Almost 9 000 km on begode master pro v1. The wheel lacks quality in finer details like a mudguard for example. Overall everything that needs to make wheel work - works no matter how hard I try to proof it otherwise with my riding style. If you have any questions type below. I will try to answer
@potatomasta657
@potatomasta657 Жыл бұрын
54:52 great review!
@CriticalPixel
@CriticalPixel Жыл бұрын
54:46 I'm still here too, I'm not even interested in the v13
@gritred5500
@gritred5500 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s funny!!
@arevee9429
@arevee9429 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great review as always. Two words for the V13. Well, 4. Too big. Too expensive.
@MrSpeednz
@MrSpeednz Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole thing, very interesting, thanks Adam!! Question for the readers here about what I should upgrade to. I'm a 183cm (6ft), 110Kg + gear rider. I only ride on roads, or around town. My current & only wheel is a KS18XL. I want a safe, reliable wheel that can go about 70Km/h & am hoping for more range. I live in a place where not every make & model is available, so the available options are: V12, V13, V14 (preorder), Sherman Max & S22 Pro (usually not in stock). If I buy Inmotion, the shop is near me, which helps if there's an issue. If I get the Sherman Max or S22, I would need to have any issues fixed by a third party (good scooter shop nearby though). So any thoughts?
@kwk8363
@kwk8363 Жыл бұрын
You are similar to me in height and a bit heavier. I would recommend something with 22 inch tire. Awesome stability and safety. It takes some time to get used to but same as learning to ride those machines. Just worth it. I personally choose maspro. Awesome mix of a cruiser with spot bike with tons and tons of headroom at almost every speed and scenario you will encounter
@MrSpeednz
@MrSpeednz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. Sorry Maspro, can you clarify?
@kwk8363
@kwk8363 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSpeednz I meant begode master pro
@MrSpeednz
@MrSpeednz Жыл бұрын
Ah thanks for the info, it looks great! Unfortunately not an option here.
@gritred5500
@gritred5500 Жыл бұрын
On this, the mention of the backup, second Hall sensor but it is not present on the V14? Good review thanks Mr. EUC.
@Taba
@Taba Жыл бұрын
Jestem tutaj: 00:46 i tutaj: 02:46 💪😎
@vdmx2824
@vdmx2824 Жыл бұрын
Love your very long review! If you were 6ft1 and 200lbs like me, would it be alot easier to control this beast when riding at slower speed, stopping and braking, or size doesnt really matter? 😅
@lucataormina6076
@lucataormina6076 Жыл бұрын
I’m a similar size and after a week or so of riding, I have complete control
@atsswing8256
@atsswing8256 Жыл бұрын
very like v13 it feel safety
@TrungNguyenSquallLHeart
@TrungNguyenSquallLHeart Жыл бұрын
it's unfortunate that they made the pedals with the molded spikes.. earlier versions like the one i have actually use removeable screws that provide much better grip and traction.
@DorjelamaLa
@DorjelamaLa Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited how about you guys?
@Dogo.R
@Dogo.R Жыл бұрын
Lower pedals and no suspention makes rapid caving faster and therefor more fun. But in reality carving is not the standard use case. The fact it is being used as a measurement for control is not accurate. In reality higher footplates do not really changing your turning speed or difficulty if you control for other variables. Carving tests trick you.
@masterblasterofdisaster
@masterblasterofdisaster Жыл бұрын
I AM STILL HERE!
@QQ251647742
@QQ251647742 Жыл бұрын
3:10 Why did the bearings break? Is that because of water in the bearings?
@yanickgenest1324
@yanickgenest1324 Жыл бұрын
Smalest group of riders ? Don't forget about the big guys ! I mean, I commute with my Master, and I sometime feel like it's a bit too small for me. I wish a ''strange Master'' with a 22 or 24 inch wheel, with a 2400 WH or less battery would be available for tall guys going back and forth to work. Guys like, over 100kg and over 1,80m.
@kingdongo4388
@kingdongo4388 Жыл бұрын
I just use the Ex30. I know, 3600wh batteries sounds like a lot, In reality give it 10 days and it'll feel light on its feet, Everything else just feels like a toy lol :)
@LeoUfimtsev
@LeoUfimtsev 3 ай бұрын
54:57 still here :--]. Would you recommend the Lynx over the v13?
@andresrodriguez6252
@andresrodriguez6252 Жыл бұрын
There's a chance this like a halo car ...halo wheel ? It's just to show off what they can do and get press buzzing about which will help sell other products from their line up
@euc-girl4668
@euc-girl4668 Жыл бұрын
Hey. I bought a 90/80/16 because in the last video you said 90/90/16 would fit. Huhu😢but it might still fit
@seizedkeyboard
@seizedkeyboard Жыл бұрын
Its an expensive wheel, so I would have high expectations. But the wheel does have impressive redundancy systems etc. Is it 2x as good as the v12? (which is half the price and has been improved by us (as the testers). Probably not.
@kingdavid1519
@kingdavid1519 4 ай бұрын
54:46
@phillipihakaradansey2194
@phillipihakaradansey2194 4 ай бұрын
Hi wrong way, I am very interested in getting my very first EUC inmotion V13 or Begode Extream. I weigh 104kg, my question is how much weight can you carry in a backpack please body weight? Thanks from Phillip P.S I really like your KZbin channel
@EUCSerbia
@EUCSerbia Жыл бұрын
54.48 bro 😂😂😂
@fabian-euc
@fabian-euc Жыл бұрын
Hej. Mieszkam koło Legnicy i posiadam v13. Jak dla mnie koło spisuje się rewelacyjnie.pozdrawiam
@danleen4225
@danleen4225 Жыл бұрын
Still here
@gsus3918
@gsus3918 Жыл бұрын
EUCs should just use the same port as electric cars.
@Tre_Notes
@Tre_Notes Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the upcoming V14?
@legyroquoi
@legyroquoi Жыл бұрын
And by the way I love your stance on the 50kmh max limitations for wheels ❤ You need adrenaline? Go parachuting
@CountVonC4
@CountVonC4 Жыл бұрын
55:01, cheers
@privileguan9127
@privileguan9127 Жыл бұрын
The bear joke was hard to bear.. I appreciate Inmotion not just selling prototypes without the intention to make spare parts availablable and trashing resources, but I think it must be brought up, that these devices are not worth 4.5k. This trend of ever increasing prices for products that are quite limited and lacking the quality of a fully developed vehicles is madness.
@atsswing8256
@atsswing8256 Жыл бұрын
thx wrong way ,
@Dogo.R
@Dogo.R Жыл бұрын
Still coming across as biased against begode. The bolt on the extreme shock breaks under certain specific conditions and its "begode quality aha". But the bolts just fall out of this EUC or other problems happen and its not "Inmotion quality aha". Really ask yourself if begode is imporving faster or slower than other EUC manufacturers. They switched to great sliders, a full width rim, smart bms, much higher water proofing, and a full 130ar mm travel in a single itteration. And the ifferation before that with the EX30 also had tons and tons of improvements. Sure begode started with a worse product all in all. But Im not really seeing the evidence that inmotion and kingsong are keeping pace. They seem to be getting overtaken. Inmotion doesnt even have a 130 mm travel yet and they didnt have to fix all the quality and safety problems begode had. How they had so long. And same with other aspects I'd really take a good look at the list of differences between generations and see how much begode improves vs inmotion and kingsong.
@DreiSkins101
@DreiSkins101 Жыл бұрын
rocking that 70's porn star mustache 😂😂
@leeteemtb9587
@leeteemtb9587 Жыл бұрын
Loving this vlog, it's like EUC porn 😂
@namshimaru
@namshimaru Жыл бұрын
I want one..... or a Patton
@novazeus
@novazeus Жыл бұрын
i just ordered a second one with the stock knobby. the one i have now has the michelin street pilot 2 inflated to max pressure, 45 psi. inflating the tires properly to the mas pressure really enhances the euc experience. takes less energy to push a hard tire as opposed to a deflated tire. makes ur euc safer. but yeah, u do have to learn how to balance and build ur core strength more, but i enjoy the v13 more than the s22 or s18.
@judechopper
@judechopper Жыл бұрын
Why not just make them so you can adjust the speed output, with alarms and safety to suit! Oh dear me! Is it that hard!
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude Жыл бұрын
55:11
@roadtrip6075
@roadtrip6075 Жыл бұрын
yeah, if you try to keep your speed at 65-70km/h (avg 45km/h'sh) in 40km travel distance, you will be left with around 55% battery. Not great. I ride v11 and v13. Yup, v11 can climb pretty steep hill. Timestamp 54:44
@hereallyfast
@hereallyfast Жыл бұрын
This wheel has been nothing but glorious and I couldn't disagree more with everything you said
@judechopper
@judechopper Жыл бұрын
And what If war comes all inmotion v13 get turned off? Just saying!
@burrito-town
@burrito-town Жыл бұрын
Interesting review. I remark to myself that my experience with the V13 has been quite different than yours. The V13 is the first unicycle, electric or not, that I've ever ridden. I've been aware of EUCs for a long time, but when the most popular brands are names like "Begode", "King Song", or "Leaper Kim", that's enough to keep me away. I'm not going to trust my life to a device made by a company that can't even choose a reasonable name. You've got a Begode? You know your doctor can help you with that, right? I don't trust wheels made by a brand that sounds like a disease or a Chinese rice machine. When I saw InMotion's V13, that changed everything. It's the first and still only EUC that doesn't look like a high school robotics club project. The V13 gets wows from people on the street everywhere I go. The look alone is probably 3/4 of the reason I now ride a wheel. While the V13 is heavy and definitely a lot to chew on as a first wheel, it's not a horrible wheel to learn on. The stability and confidence it provides goes a long way towards keeping me going in my riding progression. It took me 100 miles to really feel like I could put both feet up and ride everywhere I wanted to go and maybe 250 miles till I was comfortable riding out in traffic up around about 30 mph. I still wouldn't recommend a V13 as a first wheel unless you're real confident you'll be riding long term simply because of the price, but otherwise I think it's an excellent first wheel. I would be unhappy today if I had purchased any other wheel because the build quality would have bad and I would already be running out of headroom to grow. The V13 gives me plenty of room to grow. I've had no problem with the suspension system, though I'm only working with about 400 miles under my belt so far. I suppose I'd appreciate a system the requires less maintenance. So far I have no complaints. Another area I have no complaints: the battery. Even when I push the wheel somewhat hard, I'm getting the equivalent of 55-60 miles out of a full charge. On rides where I just slowly noodle around, the distance could be closer to 75-80 miles. But I say equivalent because I still have not used more than 25% of the battery in a single ride. By the time I am done with my rides, I am pooped. My legs and feet are spent. I'm exhausted and don't have much interest to ride anymore. The idea that I need a wheel that can travel a lot farther than the V13 seems ludicrous. Being able to travel 30 miles on a charge is plenty for me. I cannot imagine that a significant percentage of EUC riders are going on rides regularly that involve distances over 20 miles. I think InMotion has perfectly nailed the battery system on the V13. It's safe, reliable, and lasts so long that I essentially never need to think about running out of battery. In fact, when I'm riding every day I often only plug the V13 in to charge every few days simply because the wheel still has plenty of juice left. Three days of running errands usually won't have the wheel below 80%. On the other hand, I feel like you absolutely glossed over the screen on the V13. I have not used a touch screen as bad as what's on the V13 in at least 10 years. Holy cow, I cannot press it once and have it do what I want it to do. Turning on the password lock function is useless. The touch screen is so poor that even I cannot enter the code and I know what the code is. Maybe one out of every three to four button presses is registered correctly. The screen is constantly registering button presses on the side of the screen opposite of where I'm touching. Attempting to adjust any of the settings sliders is straight up impossible to do with any degree of accuracy. While the V13 is made of excellent materials all around which are well put together, the touch screen was slapped onto the wheel with as much thought and care as I use when I wipe my butt. That touch screen is an absolute disaster. If it was any worse, the wheel might not be useable at all. The screen is without question the Achilles' heel of the V13. Overall, I think the V13 is a fantastic wheel. It's exactly the wheel the EUC community wants and needs: an extremely high quality, well made, and reliable wheel. It's the first wheel someone who's not into EUCs might look at and not laugh at. No wheel has reached the level of quality and appeal that the V13 provides. While the price tag is too high for most people, this wheel is an attention grabber. It might not be the wheel that brings a wave of new riders to the sport, but it's the wheel with the largest potential to familiarize the larger population with EUCs as something that exists. The V13 is the first respectable EUC. I'm stoked about what InMotion has produced and want to see more.
@pinoyuzie1557
@pinoyuzie1557 Жыл бұрын
Still here… wait, the hype train-over? Haha… so we have a 10k peak motor wattage with a Raptor controller but with a reduced torque… Most of what was hyped turned out to be a dud 😂 wonder what the fanboys are contemplating?
@Racontemoilascene
@Racontemoilascene 10 ай бұрын
Now I know I can climb stairs....
@ottochesterfild
@ottochesterfild Жыл бұрын
You know what they say: "You can't trust man with mustache" =\ it's just science!
@dbirds21
@dbirds21 19 күн бұрын
I get what your saying but dont you think recently with euc the main priority is sport riding, going big and taking risks. I have motocross and talaria emoto nikes but they do not compare to a wheel for all out riding and adrenaline.
@browpetj
@browpetj Жыл бұрын
Watch the quality of that board come down in future models as the engineers skin down the mosfets, use thinner metal solder and thinner printing on the circuit boards (they'll maintain the same number of mosfets of course, but use lighter, lower quality stuff until they start popping and selling more boards)😂 Engineering excellence they call it ha ha ha 😂 Wait till the marketing and sales guys get to the engineers in Inmotion.
@ossamwal5295
@ossamwal5295 Жыл бұрын
Arthur Shelby ? 🤔
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