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0:00 Intro
1:55 1. LG M50T
6:11 2. Smart BMS
13:58 3. Axle-Ration
15:23 4. Water Resistance
19:05 5. Maintenance
21:07 6. Weight
22:12 7. What’s left

[@mr_wrongway]

Companion PDF Spreadsheet available here: wrongway.info/comparisons-1 EDIT: I made a very significant error in terms of Smart BMS on King-Song wheels. The only EUCs at King-Song currently which do have a smart BMS are the S16, S19 and S22 line-up. Their smaller wheels DO NOT have a Smart BMS. I apologize for my mistake and I’ll add a pinned comment to that video as well as cut out necessary parts. For some reason I mistakingly saw options of smart BMS on the 16S app and I didn’t do my research well enough. Most probably I connected to S16 while 16S was also available my KS app and it turns out it’s too easy to misclick 🙈

[@ymbudotupi73]

Exatamente o que eu iria sugerir a tabela :) obrigado thanks

[@ragon747]

There are "Dalej" and "Wstecz" at the bottom of the comparison table. I'm now learning Polish 😂

[@KiteTurbine]

Hero Thanks for this video ❤

[@ragon747]

It's not a criticism, but you can enrich this table, maybe find a way to make filters on the columns Another ideas is put some kind of index of your videos on this website. A lot of work, but than you can have all yours videos separated by subject, people will watch your videos more Just ideas man, thank you so much for your work for the EUC community, it's always an excellent contribution

[@kirh3857]

I just wanted to say it would be easier to compare if we can see a table….and you thought of that first. 😊

[@space.youtube]

Not gonna lie, the way you negotiated this mine field was pretty impressive. You kept it fact based, explained your methodology, then applied it to the EUC market without fear or favour. I hope manufacturers and EUC riders apply the standards you've laid out because both would benefit, riders with better wheels and manufacturers with better sales. 👍

[@danwoods8195]

Wow now I can't even sell my commander because you told everyone not to buy it😢 guess I'll just ride it till it explodes😅

[@mr_wrongway]

🙈

[@weberito]

Record that happening 😂

[@juhamartikainen3050]

Nice that Adam gives attention to ease of tire change. So much EUC information in one video.

[@mr_wrongway]

Thanks! This video is PACKED

[@ebpesak]

You put a lot of work into this video, thanks. The spreadsheets are very useful too! Lastly, it’s impressive that you are limiting the wheels you will review, that might cost you money but you are trying to make a meaningful change in the industry that you clearly love.

[@CrowGraystone]

Just ordered the V14 on Friday (50S) as my first wheel, this video is a nice confirmation that I did not choose the wrong wheel :) Thanks 💚💚

[@bigbadboogie6842]

V14 looks ludacris on accel/torque ❤ totally opposite of my Sherman, even my tesla 1.2 is zippier out of corners due to smaller wheel diameter and (to some extent) less weight. Watching v14 closely, if chooch and marty agree, i might sell all eucs and get that one

[@bigbadboogie6842]

But doing burnouts on gravel, thats a first for me. Stairs up/down and intermediate stops..same thing. Imagine if ze germans would make a EUC or why not Tesla ❤ THEN we will be close to EUC heaven

[@Johnnyboiii]

Inmotion v12hs is solid, blew 1st gen motherboard, got 2nd gen motherboard in warranty - works good now. Stock waterproofing is good, the wheel is dry and no dust on the inside, 6k km. Axle is fine, no issues 90kg rider

[@vince7245]

Sounds like a familiar story with my V12HT. I had the motherboard, controller and the batteries replaced just before the warranty ran out on mine. Luckily I was just starting out my ride and I was going very slow when I heard a warning, stopped and the wheel started smoking. I recorded it as proof and for prosperity's sake. Another rider in the group wasn't so lucky, he was already going at a fair speed, didn't hear the warning, which BTW leaves you with very little time to react, and he went flying. Five of us have V12s (one HS and the rest HTs) and 4 of us have had to replace its inner workings, but once replaced, all the wheels are fine.

[@user-ty6di6ky2o]

I LOVE this video BUT you forgot one thing... WHY does nobody (except inmotion maybe?) provide a way to lock the damn wheel????? Literally anybody can get on your wheel and ride off!! All high end scooters have at least a pin lock, some keys, some nfc cards SOMETHING. This is absolutely absurd to me especially on these £4000 wheels, there must be a strong focus on security/anti-theft

[@mr_wrongway]

Agree but that’s a different topic video :) King-Song has this function too ;)

@@mr_wrongway I feel like KingSong has a weird system about that. Because when it is locked you may turn off the weel, then when you move it is not beeping :D

[@kristianburger5607]

If you replace the upper section with handle it resets the password. Atleast it did with mind

[@UpcomingJedi]

Cue benny bill show intro. How often has a thief pushed someone over, jumped on an just rode away? Maybe it would make sense to slap an airtag in a hidden place to be able to recover it.

[@peterchua9952]

Thank you so much for the awesome video. I'm looking at the V14. It seems to be the best of the bunch. That has all the safety features you speak of. Thank you once again.

[@shia_labeouf]

Great to see someone considering sensible quality-of-life concerns rather than just singing the praises of the latest bigger, faster, more expensive wheel with no concern for what it will be like after 6 months of hard use in bad weather.

[@jordanestabrook4492]

Excellent video. Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge and expertise regarding all these wheels. There's no one like you and you couldn't be replaced.

[@supakat1835]

Hi Adam, great video again. I really appreciate that you are using your platform for putting the hard facts out there, tha in 2024 these EUC manufacturers absolutely should not be selling any wheels without a smart BMS from now on, & there is absolutely no excuse for it.

[@bigp733]

I'm loving this channel. You totally inspired me to start this hobby in Germany as well one year ago! Thanks a lot!!

[@NiciundMario]

At the end of the day, everyone has to decide for themselves which euc they want or what is important to them. If someone is not yet so experienced in this area, this video can certainly help them. Thanks for the video, great job as always 😊

[@mr_wrongway]

Agree! Thanks for watching :) thanks for being a KZbin Member!

[@DeathToCockroaches]

Damn never knew people watched wrongway because of his fabulous hair and here I was thinking that I watched him due to his riding and reviews 😂

[@mr_wrongway]

Who would’ve thought!

[@DeathToCockroaches]

@@mr_wrongway if eucs had haircuts they would go berserk 😆

[@ChrisH0Y]

Agreed - It's good to set high standards, especially with EUCs. Like a helicopter, failure is not an option.

[@jeduwardovega6239]

Awesome video my man super informative and detailed thanks so much for the knowledge just 🔥 😊👍

[@rcgldr]

Old guy here (72 years old), started with a V8F in August 2021, only 2475 km since it's just a part time hobby for me. I only ride on paved bike trails or private streets near my home. I weigh about 90 kg with gear. I'm in decent shape, doing free weights and cardio. I'm considering 18XL or Molicel P42A S18. Issues, 18XL has the smaller axle. S18 - the handle is reported to be weak, an issue if lifting S18 by the handle, but I only need to lift it to put on stand or to put on passenger door seal on my car (2 seater, so I transport in passenger foot well with top resting on towel covered seat). S18 - how time consuming and what issues are there if tire change is needed on the S18? S18- constant maintenance, lubing suspension, checking bolts, ... .

[@EUCRAZY_AU]

I like how you are able to be completely yourself including the hair great job Adam 🤙

[@mr_wrongway]

Thanks Lee!

[@ardubt]

GREAT video, GREAT research and presentation and even with a non riding video, NICE energy and editing. Adam, you are consistently awesome.

[@mr_wrongway]

Thank you !!!

[@GenghisKhan311]

Great content as always thanks

[@jansvoboda9778]

For on field weatherproofing is great backpack cover 20L-25L size. Easy to buy in any outdoor store.

[@Lantea13]

Great video. Is there anything in regard to the battery to be concerned with or watch out for when riding the older Inmotion V8?

[@ebpesak]

Hey Adam. I was looking at the newest euc’s and except for the Falcon they all have smart BMS’s. I think you might be having a positive effect!! Thanks.

[@levanceland]

I worked on the Inmotion V12 to replace the rim. You're right, it is tough to work on. Many many screws. But if you have a great management system for the screws and record the order of disassembly, it will be less painful to repair.

[@arthurrobey4945]

Thanks for the warning about the S22 waterproofing issue. Where I live we get about 40meters of rain a year. Requires further thought.

[@frontRangeFloaters]

My first wheel was the KingSong s22 pro. Before ordering I didn’t know about the shrink wrap , but it had a smart bms. My next wheel was the extreme because I sat down and asked what I wanted out of a wheel long term. I think this critica for reviewing a wheel is good 👍

[@kamer7pl]

very informative video 👍

[@frontRangeFloaters]

Great video Adam!

[@Laenthal]

I'm still amazed by v11's water resistance, now at 8800km. It's been through two winters already, not to mention rains. At 7500 i had changing the tire process (for winter one), and it turned out that the bearing grease was still in pristine out-the-box condition. It took riding through the sudden knee-deep pool of water to spoil that grease. But i have no idea if these qualities transferred to v11y.

[@IIlIIllII]

With all the disqualifications, would still love to see wheel reviews that do not meet your standard, as a heavier wheel would be great for my commute, waterproofing not mattering in dryer countries, or very light people on 'bad axles'.

[@gritred5500]

Adam when you mention axle strength my first issue with my sherman og was a strange affect where there was a lot of radio waves that locked up my wheel when I was walking it that lowered my confidence in EUCs as this rare problem hit my wheel. Second issue was a bent wheel that wheel is so weak and I had to replace it after I went up a curb at 10mph in an accident avoidance move. When you say axle don’t forget the wheel Strength if you know that to include that in future spreadsheet.

[@mr_wrongway]

I’m sorry about your trouble :/ radio wave cut off sounds horrible :/ weak rims suck as well, agree :/

[@jgray1308]

I hope you will review the ET Max. I rode one briefly and fell in love with it instantly.

[@mr_wrongway]

I’m contemplating about it. It seems way too heavy for me :/

[@evelthonm]

You are right my friend. On my inmotion V8f the axle broke twice. After the first time broke I had to order the whole wheel (tyre, wheel,motor) all together set that cost me a lot of money. After ten months the new one broke again. I’m not a guy who does jumps and flashy tricks. What a bitty cause it’s a nice feeling wheel.

[@kjvisual7]

Thanks! This is helpful. It looks like the V14 will be in my future. The Extreme seems good too but it doesn't have the water rating. And since this seems like it will be a long term kind of purchase, the V14 makes the most sense. Can you (or have you) make a video about lifting a 40 Kg (80 Lbs) wheel onto busses or placing in a car?

[@-JohnSmith-]

19:22 the V11Y is even harder to work on because the raptor controller requires you to take apart more things to be able to disconnect it and you have to cut zip ties and re-route wires just right.

[@makenx6139]

Thank you so much for the thorough investigation and the precious downloadable sheet. I want buy an inmotion V11Y for my first EUC this winter or the next spring, and it seems the more safe to ride in the price range of 2000€ or so. I want to commute to work even in the rainy days so the IP rating it's a deal braker for me.

[@user-ef1kz8mk7f]

Anoter great video! I'm curious tho, any idea why myewheel is not selling the begode ex30? would u not recommend that wheel too? Keep it up!

[@mr_wrongway]

It doesn’t have a smart bms :/

[@richmond411]

I find the V11 fairly easy to tinker with. So looks like I'll be good when I soon get my Lynx 🙂

[@ecorider979]

Nice content, i'm new in euc sports. Luckily my 1st wheel is lynx

[@kyles5836]

Thank you!

[@Rush2201]

As a first time rider I just bought a V10F, which looks pretty bad based on your criteria, but most of the wheels that fit are much more expensive. I don't have a problem spending a good bit on something to get quality, but at the same time I'd like to know how I enjoy riding it first before I decide which bigger wheel to invest in. I could have gone for an even cheaper wheel like a V5 or V8, but I wanted one that would have a bit more power and be a little bit more capable since I'm a heavier rider at nearly 100kg. This video will be on my mind when/if I decide to upgrade to a bigger and better wheel once I've gotten experience under my belt.

[@wykrytotrojana]

There is no Perfect product. Happy user of sherman s for about 2.5 years here, fool proof wheel for me. I would totaly recomend it if someone can deal with its weight. Range, speed, stability are strong aspects of sherman S. Video is more like about awarnes of problems of current euc's and things we should watch out for. Good for us someone rise our voices in order to increase safety of our beloved vehicles :) Keep screaming Adam :D

[@cash2.0]

I live in Southern California and have a V8S. I want a Lynx but still researching if I might have problems with being street legal. So far it appears as if what I already have is pushing the legal limits.

[@lewinwild]

Thanks for this - I think it's an important video and really clear. I can definitely see myself sending jt to someone asking for wheel recommendations. I want to see manufacturers and riders focusing more on longevity and sustainability. I still love my secondhand 16X but I wouldn't recommend anyone buy one new tbh. I want to upgrade to something with smart BMS, and then what the heck do we do with all these old wheels 🗑️🔋😔

[@Slow_PEV]

I want to get the begode a2 or the falcon. The v5f was great for $450 but I'm ready for more offroad action on a smaller wheel. Need it small for space.

[@Corn8Bit]

You already have a v5f, get a falcon. An A2 won't be enough of a step up and has no suspension

[@Slow_PEV]

@Corn8Bit true. I'm selling my v5f for $350 to go towards the flacon tho. I want one wheel for all around for my new job.

[@jomme918]

V14

[@Slow_PEV]

@@jomme918 if I had the money for sure. But also I need ao.ething less intimidating when I'm in town 😓

[@BrittBraap]

It would be super cool for you to test the EB Commander Pro 50S - checks all these boxes EXCEPT the waterproofing, and maybe maintenance. I haven't had to tear her apart yet. :) You are awesome!

[@mr_wrongway]

Thanks for the recommendation. No smart bms - no review :/ thanks you’re awesome too!

[@DanielErdofi]

Hello Adam, after a long time now I started watching your channel again. Can I ask you about your hair style? Why? What was the motivation for this new style? Thanks.

[@mr_wrongway]

Welcome again! What’s your motivation for your hairstyle? Maybe that you like it and you like the way it looks on you?

[@ThePawel36]

I broke axle on my Commander 1 generation after 5k kilometers. There is no way to fix it other that buying a new motor, what I did. Now I ride it as gentle as I can, no jumping, hard landing, etc. But Im sure it will brake again after another thousands of miles. Just a matter of time.

[@cbruffin121]

Thanks! What would you recommend between the extreme and v14?

[@ElectricTangerine-yb3kw]

V14 if you can afford it, Extreme if low on cash

[@InsanitiesBrother]

The S22 is easy to waterproof in regards to the batteries. I have ridden my wheel in the rain, and power washed it many times. But yeah, you gotta be careful. (when power washing, remove the suspension through bolt at the top (one that has handles), and the top 6 bolts (IIRC) then you can pull the wheel apart. But the mobo inside a plastic bag, silicone (if you haven't already) the two holes for the light wires. Stuff a sock into each of the battery wire holes and then blast down. When replacing everything, if you do a small bead of silicone around the battery wire hole it holds really well.) It sounds like a lot, but you can dismantle the S22 to this stage and do silicon and everything and reassemble before you can get the wheel out of a Nikol+ or V12.

[@trevorkenny]

This is the content I have been looking to get.

[@mr_wrongway]

You’re welcome 🫡

[@georgH]

I don't get all the criticism with the hair, can't he just have the hair how he likes it? Thank you for another great video!

[@mr_wrongway]

Thank you! And thanks for watching! :)

[@ItsNotMeItsYou007]

Of course he can. Still looks goofy as hell. But I am here for the information and his fantastic riding skills. He did mention something about mental issues in another video then I noticed the hair. Seems these things go together. Wish him the best and am still here for the videos. It is what it is.

[@space.youtube]

@@ItsNotMeItsYou007 Apparently your name is ironic. Good to know.

[@ItsNotMeItsYou007]

@@space.youtube Why? Even if you are correct, how does it help you?

[@burkejohnson4539]

Even though I don't have a smart BMS, I think this video has reaffirmed my decision to get a begode T4. I have 2000mi on it, and don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon. When I finally have a major issue, like needing new suspension rods I'll probably get a used ET Max or extreme.

[@oneshotfury2468]

Hello looking to get my first euc. Was wondering what recomendation you may have for someone 6foot 2 and weighing 295lbs. Rather athletic and want to learn to do jumps and ride pretty aggressively on trails, price not being a concern whats your suggestion. And not asking for a beginner wheel suggestion want something thats going to deliver on say your level. Ill acclimate to it quickly.

[@RabidTribble]

My first and only EUC has been the V11 (over 8,700 miles) and the suspension drives me CRAZY. Always losing pressure on one side...I pump it up before going out, and it's almost gone by the end of my ride. Thankfully, I live near EUCO, so I hope to have that little issue fixed in the near future. Looking really hard at the V14 for my next ride. 🤞

[@mynameisMelt]

its easy to replace the shock absorber for a new one.

[@AndreiPetunin]

i had the same, think it was just not assembled well so after taking the suspension out and putting it back in it started working.

[@FabriceDURAND]

Where to buy replacement battery pack for my Nikola Plus ? Never found online store to buy battery pack.

[@mr_wrongway]

Contact Begode directly facebook.com/wendycao297

[@Zvolis]

yea nice video, by my oppinion surprisingly not too much subjective! good job! agree wit everything, but as he said it is eweryones own decidion.

[@johnholio12]

Very useful content, thank you! (Inmotion V11 user)

[@mr_wrongway]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@deuxexmachina8736]

Thanks so much for the objective, informative content along with your great riding videos! Safety and reliability should be more emphasized in EUC designs. Cut-outs need to be engineered out and waterproofing, customization, tire changes, part swapping and recycling designed in.

[@tylerdurden9411]

Thank you for your video, you are the one that I trust, because you already test a lots of brands. I honestly think that Inmotion V14 is a great option, because is cheaper than other models, is easy to disassembly, have a great waterproof IP. Thanks a lot for your effort!!!!!

[@tylerdurden9411]

@@Rapha194 si suena bien, pero después de ver varios videos sobre la calidad que tenía Begode, es lo que me hace alejarme de ellos, saludos

[@caseybretthauer9006]

Hi Adam! I guess I am a little confused on what you consider hollow bore and axle motor. I have both the Patton (newest version) and the Sherman S and NEITHER have an axle, there are 4 studs on each side that hold the motor to the chassis. But you listed these are "Big Steel Axle" wheels.....?

[@juhamartikainen3050]

By the way. Could you made a video where all the Begode Extreme app settings are explained in detail. How they affect the ride.

[@thugis07]

You should add the rear bumper protector to the v14 rear battery pack it comes in the box. Like the one on the front battery packs

[@mr_wrongway]

Yes agree! I forgot to do it yet :)

[@UpperAquatics]

I was wonderong what the typical milage you can get out of the lifetime of a EUC? Im looking to buy one but it has to be super water resistant and very reliable as it will be my main commuter. Any recommendations?

[@AndreiPetunin]

easily 20,000+ miles before considering seeing any issues

[@grb1969]

I was shaking my head in disappointment last night while watching a LYNX video that has the fuse mounted inline with the battery (which is good) but no xt90 connection between the fuse and the battery (which is very bad). The battery lead should have a connector BEFORE the fuse so that while working on (or replacing) the fuse, the mechanic is not vulnerable to shock because the fuse holder is at full voltage potential even though the battery is disconnected! The shielded side of the connector should be on the ‘hot’ side of the junction, then the ‘male’ side should be on the load side, then the fuse holder. Especially since the fuse holder is “designed” to open using a flathead screwdriver! If you’ve never seen a 12v car battery short its leads, go look now! Then imagine an 80volt short to ground through your body.😢 Some of the minor details in these flawed design/assembly processes can mind blowing. Also, there are “safer” protocols for handling and managing used wheels but no one gets clicks for spreading this info, which is understandable. BMS features are also very minimal. The minimum requirement I have BEFORE I will ever buy a ‘new’ wheel is that I want a programmable alarm on each cell, in each pack, that notifies my if the temperature profile of that individual cell has changed more than 2-5% over the life of the packs. This will allow me to change out the programmatic cells preemptively, which reduces harm/degradation to the entire pack. I LOVE this content! Used wheels are awesome, I’ve got 6! But I wouldn’t recommend them to anyone unless they fully understand the preventative measures that need to be strictly adhered to. If anyone has suggestions on charging and maintaining vulnerable models, please add below. Recommendations for used wheels: 1) For older models without BMS balancing, NEVER charge to 100% SOC (state of charge). If damage has occurred, a full charge will just accelerate the cumulative damage. Just get the PIDzoom ‘Charger Enhancer’ and limit the peak voltage to the level at which the battery has no internal voltage losses over a 1-week period. {this needs more expansion but it’s just an example}. There’s dozens more ideas… anyone?

[@ThePawel36]

Adam, what is your opinion about molice batteries in EUC's. Do they solve problem with fires?

[@mr_wrongway]

Molicell are very solid and well performing batteries!

[@ThePawel36]

@@mr_wrongway I just bought Monster Pro with Molicell, good choice?

[@bobbarnes3328]

Thx for the vid and your knowledge. I have three wheels you mentioned in your video but none of them are the Commodes. Hair, really not you...just my opinion.

[@pierrex3226]

Given the hair. I just realized why the channel is called wrong way :D I have an inmotion v8, no cell balancing. After 7k+ km, two pairs of cells were out of balance, reducing range a lot. After manually balancing them several times, I changed them, using a cheap spot welder, using salvaged cells from scooters I found online that I capacity tested with a lithium charger. That was a few weeks ago and so far it's holding up. That wheel would be truly amazing if it had a smart BMS. I've learnt a lot along the way. I'm also on my second charger, the first one eventually just died. Also on my second tube. First tyre. Probably c.10k km now?

[@MAXstyrka]

So, if you could only buy one wheel and one wheel only, that checks all the boxes, would you buy the V14?

[@Nisse977]

I have used an cheap Airwheel EUC that I bought new in China for only 100$ 10 years ago. The 16S1P batterypack died after a few years, then I built a new batterypack with some premium Samsung cells, and it has worked fine since then. But this year I wanted to buy a more useful wheel that I can use for going around town. I found a used Gotway Tesla 1 with the 20S4P 1020Wh battery (Panasonic 18650GA cells) I got it for 400$. It works just fine. Seems to charge to full, no problem and have good range. But it does not have an SmartBMS, so I do not really know how the battery health is. If I discover problems with the battery in the future, I will probably build a new battery with Molicel P30B cells and install with an SmartBMS like the other packs I built for EVs.

[@vl589]

Basicly you dont recommend any smaller light wheels?

[@mr_wrongway]

The King-Song ones are ok but beware of the axle. I have a 14D myself and I won’t live without it :)

[@haydenhawkhand5503]

I'm always scared to go out in the rain with my Sherman Max. I only go out when it's no rain (it can still be wet on the roads) or light rain. Should I stay this worried or is it fine?

[@mr_wrongway]

It’s fine. Only thing to do is to cover buttons with some sort of tape and keep trolley handle closed

[@user-hc9dw9gb5w]

Smart BMS must be a standard for EUCs. Even for small ones (last mile EUCs).

[@mr_wrongway]

Absolutely !!!

[@rl8073]

tyvm

[@_trunkx_6681]

hi Adam, i adquired a gotway MSP (HT) a month ago because i saw and old video of your channel and got a good deal (900€), and after watching this video I instantly regret and put it for sale, what do you recommend in the mean time, should i stop using it? or ride it with caution at slower speeds? of course not in the rain. Please help i need advice. It has 1300km currently and also how could i see if the voltage is wrong?? Thanks.❤

[@mr_wrongway]

Oh sorry about that! You can buy a spare battery for it too when you contact Begode. There’s no rule for those M50T’s so I’d personally try to get rid of them, recycle and get new pack or seomethig else :/ I leave those videos up for memory purposes but maybe I should change titles? What do you think?

[@_trunkx_6681]

@@mr_wrongway the thing is that i got it second hand, not directly through begode and im trying to resell the wheel asap, but in the mean time i need advise. Should i stop using it completely till i get rid of it? or could i ride it with caution at low speeds as a commuter? I didn't notice anything strange in the battery, overheat or anything but for sure im not gonna keep that wheel much time because of what you said in this video. Also i think you could change some of the tittles in those old videos or pin a warning comment would be helpful for other people yeah, thanks again. Big fan over here!

[@mr_wrongway]

@@_trunkx_6681 ok. Honestly I’d probably just not ride it and keep it at lower battery voltage so it’s not at 100%. Best between 20-80%. Again not every M50T had issues but I’m just very cautious with that. Ok I’ll add pinned comments and some more info in the old videos. Thanks and sorry about that!

[@willhowe4953]

hey i,m looking for some where I could find a good used wheel as Im on a fixed income and am unable to work it really sucks being disabled but it would be awesome to have a euc to get around I know I could learn to ride one easy because I used to ride a unicycle when I was young but its not an option now as I have a bad heart but would like to regain some freedom and get mobile again lnstead of being stuck in this recliner doing nothing while life goes by even one that needs some work I would very grateful thanks

[@ineedue]

I can’t bring myself to spend over 2000 dollars for a first wheel It’s for practice and learning and if I want to go further then I can decide to pay more and upgrade I think I’m gonna go for the InMotion V8S I know that I will probably outgrow it within a few months But it’s 800 dollars for a reasonably good wheel

[@Rush2201]

I'm a heavier rider, so I went with a V10F, but my reasoning was the same. Learn to ride and discover what I like, then spend the bigger money on the one I'll keep long term.

[@edbjr8]

Hey, what about the LG M50LT batteries? Are they the same as the LGM50T cells in your opinion or different? I see alot of the kingsong s22, inmotion v11 , v12 have these M50LT batteries.

[@mr_wrongway]

For now we heard of one incident of M50LT catching on fire with Monster Pro. I remember of one S22 but that was hit by saltwater and some water damaged V11’s. No V12 I’ve heard of or S22 Pro.

[@mr_wrongway]

Just read through the comment section. Apparently there was one V12 catching on fire :/

[@user-yn9dh1rw9x]

Yesterday my Begode Master was power OFF at about maximum speed. Paineble, but without broken bones, safety helmets and knee pads

[@mr_wrongway]

Oh my :( I’m so sorry to hear that :(

[@kingdongo4388]

Dang, mentioned S19 and S20 but EX30 gets no love?? 😭😂

[@s0d4c4n]

Hey Adam! Awesome video. Is there a reason you don't list the S18 v2 as an acceptable wheel? According to your spreadsheet it has a hollow motor and everything else required. Since you are an advocate for small wheels, this seems like the ultimate commuter!

[@mr_wrongway]

You’re right! I forgot about it 🙈 it’s not as easy to work on though

[@s0d4c4n]

@@mr_wrongway at least it is not -12/5

[@y_i_fly6256]

Well, I had my V12 catch fire 🔥. They obviously do not travel well, a lot of shaking in my work truck. I miss it, it was so fun but that event changed my mind.

[@mr_wrongway]

Oh my, I’m so sorry to hear that. Are you ok?

[@y_i_fly6256]

@@mr_wrongway I’m doing good. Thanks for the concern.

[@edbjr8]

how or why did it catch fire?? Just from vibration in the truck? That doesn't sound right . Do you know what cells you had in the battery?

[@EVILyangkuang]

Need details, my man. Did your V12 catch fire while riding? Charging? Sitting in your truck? After heavy rain? Low battery? After opening it up?

[@y_i_fly6256]

@@EVILyangkuang it still had 90% battery charge on it. Rode it the night before with no issues. Thinking it was either the combination of the tie down I used to keep it upright behind the passenger seat, the movement of the truck or it could have been the wiring coming from the hub that shorted out. All I remember was my cellphone connected to it and the speakers were on, I heard an electrical pop and hiss and could smell one of the batteries burning with a touch of grey smoke. Took the unit outside, turned it on and the battery level was down to 40%. Turned it off and then thermal runaway occurred and the whole unit caught on fire. Luckily it was outside when it happened.

[@jakedwight9893]

This is why the Begode T4 is the perfect wheel for me, especially concerning maintenance. Obviously I would love a smart BMS and a water resistance rating, however as a budget rider it was really the best thing I could get. I hate sacrificing safety, but it's better than not being able to ride at all :)

[@Killpocalips]

I too forget that the commander mini exist sometimes

[@XtianApi]

What about my s22 pro with lg50lt? I monitor the smart bms, am not a crazey rider and usually don't fully charge

[@mr_wrongway]

Nothing wrong reported with S22 Pro with LT yet. Just be careful of the water resistance

[@XtianApi]

@@mr_wrongway awesome thank you sir, yes I did a lot of work for the water resistance and I've also never gotten caught in the rain Thank you for responding you the man

[@GenZyannd]

still don't understand why KS is not wrapping the battery packs for the s16, s19, and s22 pro

[@mr_wrongway]

E X A C T T L Y

[@milordas]

Big steel axle: Patton - wrong, it have aluminium axle, KS22 only latest model

[@bokusimondesu]

The bit about axels, would the quality of the steel not also play a big part? Some steels are stronger than others.

[@mr_wrongway]

Yes. They use a special kind of metal - shitanium

[@WheelGoodTime]

FYI Leaperkim has an independent IPX6 waterproof rating on the Lynx - which is even better, credibility-wise, than IM's in-house testing 🤠

[@mr_wrongway]

Oh! I didn’t know about that, I need to do my research better.

[@floyder99]

Can you make review on your bicycle please?

[@dhdclub]

Because of things mentioned by Adam (waterpfoofing especially) - no authority does take EUC's seriously, like a vehicle which should be considered among public transport. We (riders/ customers) have to demand this from manufaturers. Then we will aproach much faster the day when any country will put EUC out of the law grey zone into just common transport vehicles.

[@brandonaschoff823]

It looks like the new inmotion v12 has smart BMS. Correct me if I'm wrong

[@mr_wrongway]

Yeah V12 Pro should have one

[@Treetorock88]

V14 only leaks in charge port area , but it was under a foot of water... Lol

[@olympA310]

Salut Adam houaaa quel changement de look ça claque 😜😋😁🤞🛴🔥🇨🇵

[@mr_wrongway]

Merci beaucoup! ;)

[@JD-qo9wk]

So does the Begode t4 have smart BMS or not?

[@mr_wrongway]

It doesn’t

[@sazzowl_gaming8203]

Would it be possible to add a smart BMS later?

[@mr_wrongway]

Not without a complete battery disassembly which would be very costly :/ essentially you’d need to rewire the battery pack, add sensors and a system that monitors it all. There’s some shops in EU who exchange such batteries for smart bms ones for Begode - Einradwerkstatt. For InMotion/KS/Veteran no chance as the BMS needs communication with the Board which is only possible with their stock setup

[@sazzowl_gaming8203]

Ah ok makes sense because it's far more then just software.​@@mr_wrongway

[@Esk8Queen]

What about the pattern it doesn't have a smart bus. I've NEBER had issues THANKGOD

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

the smart bms really isn’t too important on wheels but it does help give peace of mind or answers to problems

[@segment932]

My old Inmotion V10f does not charge over 80%. Hopefully it is safe.

[@mr_wrongway]

It’s probably very disbalanced but you DEFINETELY should get your battery checked!

[@luwn00bz]

You should check if the charger is giving proper voltage 84V. Do it with caution. If the battery never reaches 100% , the cells will not balance and it can be dangerous, since one of the cells can go below 2.5V and you will not notice, this will degrade the cell very fast and is possibly dangerous.

[@JailbreakTips]

don't risk it. can cutout if the batteries aren't working properly. My V12HT did not charge over 96% and when I messaged inmotion about it they gave me a new wheel

[@segment932]

@@mr_wrongway Yea. I should try to re balance them, its just a hassle to get in to the battery on the V10 so I did not want to do it.

[@UpcomingJedi]

If i could get a dollar gofundme for everytime he handles his hair like its a new toy, i could buy me a lynx!