Most Unpopular And Honest Opinions On Pop Vocals And Vocalists!

[@simmy1251]

Katy has clearly been focusing on her voice these past thew years and I’m really here for it

[@Fr0zenPeanut]

Yes, now I'm just waiting for her to start working on her vibrato. Whenever I hear her sing long sustained belts I can't help but notice how there's almost never any vibrato and how she ends them abruptly.

[@KinectWars]

You clearly didn’t heard her acoustic performance of Hawaii in the bathroom

[@simmy1251]

@@KinectWars oh no, a bad vocal performance, almost like all singers don’t have bad days.

[@KinectWars]

@@simmy1251 she had a lot of bad days tho…

[@simmy1251]

@@KinectWars okay and? all i’ve said is that she’s been focusing on her voice. weird behaviour of yours.

[@kingly1407]

I don't think Camilla's voice has declined terribly. I think most of her sound is made by creating tension in her voice so her performances are very hit or miss. I think that's always been the case. Singing with tension all the time isn't sustainable.

[@filipmarinkovic6281]

Yeah, idk why are her belts so airy and bland-ish now. But her latest Bam Bam performance on James Corden was great tbh

[@Tarikkb]

She started getting vocal lessons for the past year and a half and she’s been sounding different since , her voice is less “camila “ she sounds more plain with her new technique her vocals between 2015-2018 were the best times in my opinion

[@lautarogonzales470]

@@Tarikkb that's because she's trying to not use that high and nasal voice she was forced to do in the 5H era.

[@Tarikkb]

@@lautarogonzales470 she wasn’t forced to do that voice tho , that was her voice in general cuz she didn’t had vocal training at all , she just did what feel best to her , I’m glad she doing a healthier technique now , but I miss some of her old style tbh

[@iosashes2087]

@@lautarogonzales470 I wouldn’t say she was “forced” to, but her voice was always a little sharp, raspy, and…crackly (idk how else to say it) and it reached its peak raspiness around mid-2014 (look up 5H’s Today Show 2014 performance and any other performance from that era). Then when the Sledgehammer era started the lower, raspy tone disappeared almost overnight and she suddenly started sounding very light, nasally, and like she inhaled helium every performance. In my opinion a lot of her issues stem from her singing too high for too long. Yes she’s a soprano but she’s 25 not 15 and she may not realize how much her voice is maturing naturally. She’s always forced it to be higher than it is, her larynx goes through the roof when she gets near the 5th octave, and her ease has always been in her lower notes even when she didn’t use them much. If she lowered the keys of her songs for a little bit she’d probably have a much easier time.

[@mooblink4ever899]

Ariana has been belting and singing those crazy high notes for many years and now she's still able to hit them like nothing 🤧 fun fact, she is even better now !!!!

[@takemyhand1988]

Yes. Preach. She's way better now.

[@littlelou050]

she's definitely improved. thank god, for a moment there i was worried for her voice. she seemed to strain alot. she was very much playing into what was said here about mezzos vs sopranos. she relied on her light, thin tone to sound 'impressive'. but she often over did it, fell flat/off and sounded throaty. she also had to use pre recorded tracks during some performances because she couldn't properly hit all the notes. i do think she's one who gets to caught up in it all and doesn't actually think about being able to sing her songs live. recently, she's sounded more full and she's used her lower register more. i like hearing more tone from her, the constant high screaming was what she was known for but it was......

[@briannaaudain928]

@@littlelou050 she wasn’t screaming imo but straining her belts here and there back then but her belts now have a better tone and support

[@hunniii2356]

@@briannaaudain928 no she wasn't but I appreciate you saying that's it's your opinion

[@EquinoXshowcases]

@@hunniii2356 hiii💅

[@butwhatdoesitmane2344]

LOVE that Miley Man eater cover! She recently belted an f5 that wasn’t perfect, but subjectively sounded sooo good to me because of the difference between her deep voice and the high note.

[@addictedtovocals]

It’s an E5! 🙄 True, the key and the belt makes it look like you would EXPECT an F5. But the E5 was pretty sharp and the F5 is NOT present.

[@butwhatdoesitmane2344]

@@addictedtovocals ooooh okay. I checked it myself and thought it started at an F and slid closer to an E but you seem like you know better than I do 😂. Regardless I think it sounds great lol

[@charfree6888]

@@addictedtovocals why so pressed? You could've said that nicely.

[@addictedtovocals]

@@butwhatdoesitmane2344 You would expect her to sing an F5 due to the key! But it’s fine after all 😏😀

[@addictedtovocals]

@@charfree6888 I was just tired of ppl saying it’s an F5…

[@killerqueen7489]

Camila should just start lip syncing or pre recording like the rest of the girls cause the general public is SO easily fooled it's crazy. People are out here prasing lipped vocals these days...

[@aintnootherfan]

That would be a smart move honestly!

[@Solo-vh9fm]

I actually agree at this point. But it’s nice for those who aren’t easily fooled that she doesn’t lip sync. She should lower her songs a bit more though (she already started doing so with Senorita, Living Proof and Never Be The Same)

[@notagname]

she’s been singing 100% live since the start of her career. i doubt that if she switched to lip syncing or pre recorded she would get away with it.

[@emy_2510]

The last bit is funny. I might be in that boat

[@great10toes40]

Loooool facts But I doubt she will I mean she would be sometimes the only one singing live in Fifth harmony even when it sounded weird to hear lipsync and live together She's pretty head strong about it I think, I respect it

[@abdulbaasit1824]

Céline is way too underrated and her extreme versitality in singing so many genres and styles of music in her career is quite overlooked.

[@onedollarbleach6891]

Exactly, this woman can literally sing in different languages

[@goldranger5182]

Indeed

[@mambatheestallion1596]

Her 80s performances are underrated, but I must say in the year 90s she really got recognition.

[@Sttephy30]

She is not underrated. Celine Dion sold like 200 million albums, please.

[@gen5301]

@@Sttephy30 that's not what they meant. lol.

[@EquinoXshowcases]

What I find fascinating about Ariana is that people have been saying since 2014-2015 that she was in her "prime", and also in like 2017-2018, but she is only getting better and better

[@great10toes40]

Ariana isn't my fav song I don't really vibe with her, her sings are boring to me, but I do love how much I hear her improve her vocals all the time She used to find it difficult to sing a full song without getting breathing but she's so much better over the years

[@lindsey8998]

I find the whole vocal trinity quite underrated, especially with younger generations... Just like you said in this video, younger artists like Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo are being so highly praised and INSANELY talented singers like Celine and Whitney are being overlooked... Really sad :( Edit: Thanks for the interesting replies!

[@nickardomccrae1519]

Well a new generation is here so of course we are hungry for new face even if they are not as good as the older generation

[@jacekmaraj1774]

People that grew up in vocal trinity regime also don't care about barbra Streisand or minnie ripperton I think we gen z prefers visual appearance or songwriting more than vocal talent. New vocal beasts like Jojo , tori , dinah are very underrated in this generation

[@degviela]

Well times are changing and the music changes to,when they were at theyr prime they were massive then nowdays younger generation watch this as nostalgia something parents would listen,but dont overlook this generation maybe billie is not the strongest vocalist but she is an amazing musician her music is just work of art and something fresh and difrent in this music era.

[@andrikfelix6507]

@@jacekmaraj1774 I don't really agree with the appearance thing. But agree with the lyrics thing.

[@crickets6114]

it’s not sad, the vocal trinity are respectively the best selling female artists of all time w madonna in there too and anyone in gen z would obviously acknowledge neither of them are comparable. peoples taste in music has changed and neither of them ever marketed themselves as standout vocalists, just singer-songwriters who make damn good music that people can appreciate, has nothing to do with mariah, whitney, or celine, when they were at their peaks they were all the rage aswell

[@goldyd144]

Mezzo supremacy! All the vocalist you showed barely needed mics. My goodness!

[@kitkatlove89]

I'm lowkey relieved on my feeling that Camilla's voice has gone really downhill.. I don't know if its constant promoting and performing or the fact she isn't taking care of her voice properly. I really hope she get's back on track with the help of a vocal trainer or something. ALSO FINALLY THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT MOMO! It always bothered me about how they talked about her 'fake' voice when it's really just a lower range and tone.

[@lautarogonzales470]

I saw on tw saying that she said she was forced to sing in that high and nasal voice so she's working to sing in her 'natural' voice but idk if that affect her or not

[@andreahl3494]

@@lautarogonzales470 But really, if you listen to her voice on different vocal ranges, it's just a difference in pitch/notes. She always sounds nasal, and vocals above her comfort zone just make her sound tense. It's just not fake. The whole "fake voice" with her and Rosé annoys me too.

[@great10toes40]

Yup she used to sound really good in fifth harmony, she reminds me of Harry styles he ruined his vocals worst than her because of bad technique

[@andya1744]

I know Pink wasn’t about her r&b era but man I do miss her singing that genre

[@atolm1]

me too, now its all these upbeat pop songs that sound like Kelly Clarkson (whom I love) but i quite liked her more in the beginning couple records. All her stuff sounds the same these days.

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

No. 💀

[@onyekaobuaya7232]

Point 7 made me scream 😭🤣 You’re not wrong though. Some people’s voices are mediocre and that’s okay, the music can still bop

[@Tarikkb]

I found out that camila has been getting vocal lessons for the past year and a half , and it’s somehow declining her ?! It’s strange , her vocals used to be so distinct and specific to her , now it sounds more technically generic and that somehow took away her distinct rasp and weird runs , her best vocals in my opinion were between 2015-2018 , and with her new “technique “ it sounds like it stripped every “camila “ thing out of her voice , I wish she finds someone that helps her go further with her prev vocals cuz she had a really amazing and different potential , for example she sounds really Oval lately , she’s been using a lot of “ O “ sounds when singing and it sounds so strange and full but not in a good way

[@igna1761]

She said that she wanted to sound less nasal, so maybe that's the reason why she sounds more oval, but i don't know, it's just a theory😂😂

[@Tarikkb]

@@igna1761 I personally liked her nasal tone lol

[@igna1761]

@@Tarikkb me too, it makes her voice more special

[@lovestadance]

Maybe what made her vocals sound unique at the time was just bad vocal technique.

[@MoonLight-dx6gf]

About BLACKPINK - Apparently Jisoo responded to a BLINK on Weverse and said "The song is really good" so it's already recorded and we just need to wait for the comeback teasers!

[@tylerhackner9731]

Love Katy focusing on her voice

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

Ever since Ari joined The Voice, I’ve gained a new respect for her skills. Her music itself still isn’t my cup of tea, but like…where has that voice been hiding all these years?? When she was younger she had a great voice with resonance, power, and I could actually understand the words, but then the industry got to her but I’m glad her true powerhouse voice is coming back, it NEEDS to be heard 💕

[@qkbarbland4332]

Good for Katy, but I honestly feel like she gave up her agility and dimension for solid vocals and belts. That doesn't really make me happier because her vocal prime in my opinion (maybe not technique wise) was 2006-2008, her voice had much more dimension, she used her beautiful falsetto a lot, and she could riff and run a lot compared to now where her runs are mostly slippery and muffled. I guess this is more palatable to the public to be considered a competent vocalist but for me the beauty and uniqueness of her voice was lost sadly

[@jace9427]

Good point but here's the thing: her voice was very very unstable back then and it's stable now so there's a big improvement

[@ARlANACAREY]

pretty sure mariahs discography is most celebrated because she’s actually involved in the songwriting and producing aspects and it’s just overall more personal #idk

[@audreyf9092]

Also it’s in English. I can’t speak or understand French and I’m not a big fan of listening to music that I don’t know the lyrics to. I listen to all of Celine’s English hits though.

[@anonymousindividual0]

Her songs are more fun and enjoyable in general tbh. Mariah has a great ear for melodies.

[@Heroliesinyou]

@@anonymousindividual0 Mariah is an ARTIST. ❤

[@GarageStudio7]

10:08 I think Mariah's discography is being celebrated more now (especially in the States) because more people are becoming aware of her input in creating it; Whitney & Celine's discographies are well-renowned though. In fact, in some continents their music is more well-known than Mariah's. I knew about them before I knew about Mariah; one could argue that "I Will Always Love You" & "My Heart Will Go On" are more renowned worldwide than "Hero". "All I Want For Christmas" has gained steam over the years though. 2:35 Ooh that's some unfiltered ☕ about Mezzo-Sopranos often having better techniques than Sopranos in mainstream music; I wonder if the same can be said about Baritones & Tenors in mainstream music 🔍 6:34 You're right! Singing is first and foremost about feeling, thus it's not every single note that must sound clean; for example, those raspy belts from Celine in "L'amour existe encore" are incredibly memorable, impressive & touching!

[@adamsamess2163]

With regards to baritones and tenors I do think it’s very similar to mezzos and sopranos… they have a harder time to achieve the desirable qualities in both pop and RnB vocals and music and so have to work harder on their voices to do so. More dedication cause it doesn’t come as easy and they need the technique to do so healthily.

[@samuelking9497]

Argee that Whitney and Celine's discographies are well known and honestly i can say more preferred by the masses more than Mariah's music. I think this is a instance of us thinking that KZbin and social media represents the entire world with over 7billion people. Also its different in every country and continent, so Mariah may not be a appreciated in Europe but more appreciated than Whitney and Celine in Asia, etc... I've also heard some say they prefer Whitney or Celines voices over Mariah in a live setting but Mariah's cataloge ove both of there's. And Mariahs catalouge has aged better

[@jacekmaraj1774]

Baritones and tenors are actually praised well , it's the bass singers that people don't care about BUT THEY SHOULD

[@Sloppyjoey1]

I feel Whitney & Celine were actually about as "popular" as Mariah, and I say that as a 90's kid. Mariah's music simply aged better because Balladry fell off people's musical tastes and Mariah bolted into pop/rnb after her first 2 albums lol.

[@samuelking9497]

@@stephen9799 What part of Asia are you from?

[@mambatheestallion1596]

Lets talk abt how Bey has better "F#5s" than majority of the sopranos. Considering shes a mezzo, the fact that F#5 is her remarkable note!!!

[@mariahcareydaydreamera2526]

My unpopular opinion about vocal declines. I mean, I absolutely adore Adele. And her new album is AOTY!!!😍 But her recent live vocals? I don’t know…her vocal agility is awesome, much better, her lows also seem stronger but her belting? Everybody say’s she’s improved but I don’t think so…her belts sound much thinner and tired compsred to 25 era. Compare her Radio City Music Hall concert from 2015 to her 2021/2022 vocals. Her 2015 belts sounded much fuller and more resonant, she supported up to C5! And now? Even her A4’s seem tense…So that’s my pretty unpopular opinion because everybody’s saying she is in her vocal prime now…

[@takemyhand1988]

Yeah also her belts seems more pushed and signs of strain are really visible.

[@mooblink4ever899]

You can say that again 🙂😹

[@takemyhand1988]

@POP GIRLS DESTINATION 🎶 I'm just tired of this. Why do everyone drags Mariah into conversations? Why is it hard to just give my opinion without someone discrediting Mariah? There are other singers in my profile, and I didn't even mention Mariah. It's just so sad that I can't just be a Mariah fan publicly. I didn't even say anything negative. I'm seriously just so upset that I can't celebrate I like Mariah without someone discrediting my every opinion. You really make me hate people because now I've got to change my profile because somehow you can't comment anything when you're a lamb.

[@addictedtovocals]

@@takemyhand1988 She doesn’t strain lol, it’s just distortion due to inconsistent belting 😂

[@takemyhand1988]

@@addictedtovocals distortion is growls etc.

[@SingersAvenue1]

Katy has been a fool with them vocals since 2017 and I've been here for it! Since Witness, her voice has been doing it for me and I cannot wait for another album from here. Check out "Smile" if you want some MORE good vocal moments from her.

[@user-xu3cz7vp2j]

I have been absolutely loving Katy's live vocals lately. she sounds better than ever! glad people are properly recognizing it

[@edwinjlr1345]

It's sad about Camila, really. She has gotten a darker tone which to me is a plus, but consistency has been highly inconsistent. She sure has a lot of potential, but I think she hasn't found her place in her voice just yet. Like, her voice, you know...? That thing that sets her apart from the rest, and lets us hear Camila, and not just another young singer. Could she be in need of rest? Maybe a different style of singing? Sorry if this sounds iffy, I truly do not mean it like that, I'm just clueless. Katy Perry is getting a lot better. She has a lot more control, a lot more stamina, and her belts are quite full of great resonance. Granted, her B4s were always outstanding, but she's truly belting it nicely. I'm excited to see where her vocal journey leads her, and hopefully, the music she starts singing/writing about that takes advantage of her better vocal condition and improvement. I honestly don't know how to say a definitive thing about the differences between the technique of sopranos vs. mezzos. It's like each category exercises different aspects of their voice, while neglecting the rest, or hyper-focusing on a single one to a point that it becomes detrimental. From personal experience, listening to sooooooo much music, sopranos tend to favor going high regardless of "technique" or ease. Since their voice sits higher, they'll usually, not always, have an easier ride mixing all the way up, but imo, songs are better when climaxes are built into the natural ascent of the emotionality of a song, which sometimes makes sopranos forget that agility, darkness, and nuance are very important aspects of a complete singer. On the other hand we have mezzos. They naturally have a darker/lower/heavier voice than sopranos, which means that if they want to street-fight them, they need to polish EVERYTHING, specially their mixing capabilities, which imo, makes their voices flourish insanely great, however, mezzos have a tendency to want to fly with the birds, when their voices simply aren't suited to soar all the way up there, at least not healthily, which gives us mezzo singers struggling when they shouldn't have to suffer in the first place. I believe this is just a problem with the music industry overall, where the birds, kites, and planes are favored, and everyone else not able to belt above C5 is automatically a "bad singer". It's sad. Vocal rest is necessary if the problems are caused by overusage. Think of it like working out. Most people do workout splits to work different areas of their body, along with different muscles inside those areas, while giving the others plenty of time to rest to prevent injury or physical exhaustion. Our voices work very similarly to that, which is why warm-ups work great, and people get looser after making sounds, which allows their entire vocal tract to get warm, and work properly just like your hams when deadlifting. I cannot lift heavier weights without working out, and progressively adding more controlled stress on my muscles, so that my muscles "remember", tear-down, and heal bigger and stronger. Vocal problems should be addressed properly, carefully, and accurately. Some singers sing unhealthily, others sing outside of their range, others have breathing issues that need to be inspected, some aren't singing enough, and others are singing the incorrect genre for their voice. Technical imperfections, to me, are still under the umbrella of having a good singing "technique". Look at all the Gospel singers, specially the older ones. They've been growling, squalling, shouting, and cracking purposely for emotion and effect, and their voices are still going strong. Sounding too "perfect" IS BORING, specially if what you're singing about doesn't match the vocals. Well-known singers like Whitney and Celine faked "strain", or added a crackle simply for vocal effects, and this is why I still consider these "imperfections" part of their technique because they're able to do it healthily, and consistently. Hell, look at freaking Christina Aguilera, for God's sake. She's been growling since she was a teenager, and she's still somehow able to talk, sing, whistle, and what-not. Granted, she has declined slightly due to what I believe is singing outside of her range for far too long, but she can still sing. When it comes to singing as an art, I'll have to quote my man Robert Welsh, but make a change here and there to make it fit this discussion: "Individuality and creativity have no rules, but music most certainly has a theory". It is why we go to school, college, seminars, classes, and coaching. These people will equip you with all the tools and "technique" (I hate this stupid word) in order for you to let your creativity, and originality shine through in a healthy way that doesn't spend too many dollars, and leave you bankrupt by the end of your live performance. Taking this into account, vocal skill CAN and SHOULD be compared, however, giving prizes should be about the individuality of the artist and not their vocal chops because there's absolutely no chance in hell that BTS, Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, Maluma, Bad Bunny, and Billie Eilish are better singers than Pink, Kelly Clarkson, John Legend, Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande, and Beyoncé. This to me is ridiculously ridiculous. Rewards should be given for top favorite, or most-emotional, or whatever other category that speaks to the artistry of the singer, and not to the vocal skill of said singer because it's unfair for everyone involved.

[@aintnootherfan]

Thank you for taking the time to write this!

[@butwhatdoesitmane2344]

Okay this was really good

[@lbell9695]

This is exactly why I get annoyed when people trash on Rosé for not being the most technically proficient singer and only saying that the reason why vocal professionals praise her is because of her uNiQue vOicE. It's not only that but her artistry - she's able to express the message of the song so well that the language barrier dissolves. Her dynamics are great and whilst yes, she could improve her mix for instance, it sounding strained usually adds that emotions that other solid vocalists lack. I would love her to delve into vocal pedagogy, but I wouldn't want her to sacrifice the unique qualities of her voice to be the same cookie-cut vocals that other main vocalists have. It's balance in my opinion that matters the most. You should sing healthily but also add some individualistic flavours here and there.

[@edwinjlr1345]

@@lbell9695 Agree with you a 100%. Artistry and efficient singing should be married, not sacrificed for the sake of another.

[@likeitsgoldn9200]

Yes 10/10 on this analysis 💗💗

[@thalesviana6177]

for the last topic, I really agree, but I can understand. Mariah have reinvented herself twice in her 30+ years career. She came from ballads, to a blend of hip hop and RnB, to have the song of the decade with We belong together. She's the most distinctive of the three. Although, all three have to be celebrated, because they changed the music industry, and they discographies are incredible and insanely difficult

[@clemandneck]

As a frenchie, I absolutely adore Celine's discography, she has incredible songs in French. I believe her discography is really appreciated in France and french-speaking countries, and that's also because we have a culture of poetry and well crafted lyrics that isn't as rooted in anglosaxon music industries. I guess that's also why she is less knowned and valued here for her vocal abilities than for her amazing songs. But she's a legend here anyways (also we love quebec). I think french people love Celine waayyyy way more than Mariah who's kinda considered a diva (but not in a good way) and Whitney. But the whole vocal trinity is, again, a very english-speaking thing cuz I've *never* heard of that in French.

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

Y’all French people are traditionally white. Y’all are Anglosaxon. 💀 Pls stop acting like y’all are oppressed by your race. You’re not.

[@ph6883]

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 As an Senegalese now American citizen, you’re comment to me is very entitled and narrow minded. It’s called xenophobia, in which Céline along with many other Francophones have addressed with the American market. The American entertainment industry is VERY xenophobic and racist honestly. But this is not about racism so much as it’s about xenophobia. America doesn’t like foreign talent. They just started recently becoming more inclusive with Latin artists, but that’s as far as it goes. And even with that it’s not as good as it could be. The fact that Céline broke barriers becoming the first Francophone artist to have a #1 in the U.S. sells millions of records, and be the first Francophone artist to win the awards she won in her respective catagory, and the highest selling bilingual artist in America is an incredible feat considering other Francophone artist who have tried haven’t got as far as Céline. Céline is huge here in Africa, especially in French territories. After all she is the best selling international female artist overall, we love and respect her so much here. Aya Nakamura is huge up and coming and is from Mali, and if her career takes her to the US, she will have to face not only what Céline did but ALSO being black will be also be a huge hurdle for her. I’ve never experienced as much racism and xenophobia as I have until I moved to America. I have never seen so many white and black people be so insanely insulting to each other’s not only skin color but culture. My friends from the Middle East have been insulted and had things hurled at them, by other people of color. It’s sick. Stop acting like other cultures aren’t oppressed simply by the color of the skin, when culturally there is way more to people than their skin color. I would hate anyone who has never experienced another culture to talk about their oppression, simply because you don’t know.

[@nanatruc3484]

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 where, literally where in their comment do you see them implying french/francophone people are oppressed I'm so confused

[@nawelsaidi9717]

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 you okay ???

[@tasosGRvocals]

Thank you for appreciating Celine and Whitney, I adore theeem 😍

[@majahandlovu8115]

Girl who doesn't adore them , they're the legendary Vocal trinity 👑

[@rkngl807]

Celebrating Mariah’s discography doesn’t take anything away from Celine or Whitney. Mariah’s discography is the most consistent one under many aspects, that doesn’t mean the other two don’t have great albums/songs or that every Mariah’s song is great. The fact that she’s the only one who writes all of her songs surely plays a part. They all have great discographies and iconic hits and they should all be celebrated but let’s give the credit when it’s due.

[@goldranger5182]

Celine has more consistency

[@rkngl807]

@@goldranger5182 discography-wise? Absolutely no. Vocally? Sure.

[@goldranger5182]

@@rkngl807 celine last album courage debuted no.1 at billboard number 1 . courage outsold caution aswell.#Facts

[@rkngl807]

@@goldranger5182 what does it have to do with anything? lol The delusion… I was talking about quality, not sales and (since you brought it up) Caution received way better reviews than Courage so…there’s that

[@atolm1]

So glad to hear you call our people who want to declare any old mediocre vocalist a queen, amazing, incredible etc, like by what standard? not compared to the real greats like WHITNEY MARIAH and CELINE, nice to see respect paid to the Trinity, they are called that for a reason.

[@onedollarbleach6891]

Definitely agree with that last point! I love Mariah but I feel like ppl sleep on Whitney and Celine’s music. Musically, Mariah’s catalogue is better but Whitney and Celine still have good music as well. The Waiting to exhale and the preacher’s wife soundtrack albums are probably my favorites albums sonically from Whitney and falling into you, colors of my love, and a lot of her French music are my favorites from Celine

[@Sttephy30]

Waiting To Exhale isn't a Whitney Houston album tho. It should be labelled a Babyface and friends album tbh. The Preachers Wife & My Love Is Your Love are her most cohesive and well put together albums imo.

[@andressa-yorke]

Yeah, we all desperate need BLACKPINK in our area.

[@benjaminjohnson8452]

i agree that whitney and celine have underrated discogrophys but I think it is an objective fact that Mariah discography is far superior to the others. Unlike the other two she was a songwriter/singer not just a singer

[@tellmeto]

Celine Dion's french discography alone is superior to what mariah and whitney have outputted in their careers, especially her french discography starting in 1987. Just because you don't speak the language doesn't mean the output doesn't get taken into account.

[@lincolneyar8269]

C'mon now. . . She is indeed talented for producing and writing most of her work but that doesn't necessarily make her discography better. How we view discographies is based on taste and personal preference.

[@lucasnull9960]

@@tellmeto butterfly alone is better than Celine’s whole discography, no need to lie to yourself.

[@tellmeto]

@@lucasnull9960 ignorance is bliss...try listening to her french discography and then come back to me.

[@joanquintero4670]

The fact that Mariah writes her music doesn't mean is better, the quality of songs and the artist writing them aren't corelate in any form.

[@jacekmaraj1774]

Instead of calling it momo's fake voice , we should call it momos better voice. People often bash her for her underdeveloped tense nasal vocals and i think jyp should give her lines that show off the best parts of her voice , her lows Jyp forces some of them to sing in a high cutesy littke girl voice but that doesn't really fit them sometimes

[@littlelou050]

here's the thing. twice do sometimes stylise their vocals to sound more "cute". but their singing voices aren't much different to their talking voices, and all registers match. they're not necessarily being forced into anything, but are given songs that require more training and skill than they have. kpop songs in general seem to sit alot higher, than alot of western stuff. they sound strained, high and squeaky because they're finding it hard to reach the notes. just like how we can hear that momo sounds 'better' in her lower register, because she's pushing less. you can also see the difference in how they sing during tours. when they're comfortable they sound alot more natural and rooted. yes, it's not smart to call it a fake voice because it obviously isn't, the sound is created by her vocal cords and she isn't changing anything much. it would be nice to have them show off more sides to their voices, but they need to market themselves and so far, this is what they're known and loved for. just hope that the girls continue to improve in both their confidence and skill.

[@ELmayberry]

need more of Momo's lows 😍

[@ST-vg3vs]

Honestly, I don't find anything wrong with Camila's performance. She is still one of the few who always performs live rather than lipsync so there are days when the constant travel can lead to some disruption. But having heard her live at Global, she nailed it with her set and Coldplay's yellow. Plus , last year she lost her voice because she wasn't doing well on health front so it makes sense. But the amount of work she does with Eric Vetro her coach only tells the real scene. Let's not pick and choose.

[@bigberd5905]

10:03 I feel Mariah's discography is so digestible because she writes her own music and it sort of tells a story. It's as if her discography is an album in ig of itself. Each of her albums has it's own identifiable era that can correlate with the world at the time and Mariah's life at the time Just what I've observed from being a fan I do have to say that recently, iv fallen deeply in love with "Falling into you" by Celine and "I'm Your Baby Tonight" by Whitney. 2 absolutely great albums

[@antoniojimenez7509]

I really don’t think Camila’s voice is declining. Yes, I think it’s changing but in some aspects for the better, I don’t think that she’s ever sounded as strong when belting anything as she did in the “buena vida” performance at tiny desk

[@ciceromiguel6423]

Camila had so much potential

[@jordanhaller8973]

She still does

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

Thank you for the subjective vs objective part everyone can confused their subjective opinions with objective facts it’s honestly annoying and they espacially stand toe that their subjective opinions are objective facts when the majority vote on social media agrees with them it’s this “oMg thAnK yOu sOmEoNe fInAlLy sAiD iT” 😒

[@itsjoabe]

Honestly, I think talking about vocal decline for a literal 25-year-old doesn't make any sense. Camila would have to do something extraordinary to ruin her very young, still in development instrument.

[@briannab4037]

Your videos never miss!

[@filipmarinkovic6281]

Can we PLEASE agree that Katy Perry NOW is a very good vocalist, like ik a lot of ignorant people will say no just bc it is kinda still trendy and easy to hate on her, but to those who can think objactively and know something ab singing:)

[@clonnlijinhlong2713]

Very good? Nope Good? Nope Decent? Yes Decent is the word..... She's a good singer...but as a vocalist, she still fall short

[@preciousbenya2121]

Camila's voice has gotten darker and heavier...but she's not as fluid with her runs as before and her breathing is declining. I choose to believe she'll heal from it... with time...and if not... she'll find a way to sing with a better technique. I'm glad she's not overly bright or nasal anymore.

[@edwinndaba126]

This is the best one in this series!!

[@aintnootherfan]

Thank you!!!

[@lbell9695]

I'm loving the love that you gave mezzo-sopranos :)

[@charlistan9510]

I don’t think camila was ever good. She’s always been very inconsistent and through every era there’s performances that are just so out of tune and pitchy

[@qbennett7232]

I’ve noticed that Celine and Whitney fans get really upset whenever Mariah gets praised and it’s kinda weird celebrating Mariah’s discography doesn’t take anything away from them lol

[@mikel4531]

I love Beyoncé, Whitney, Miley, Ariana and Gaga 💖💖💖💖💖

[@rashelmontiel]

I loved the fact that you made the underrated holy trinity be the cherry on top of this video haha as they should!

[@EricContractor]

Hmm Camila doesn't sound bad to me, but if you cite some trouble I'm not surprised, it was forseeable- the vocal lines in her songs are quite tough, and the vocal tone she used to distinguish herself was not realistic long term perhaps- sort of ultra youthful, nasal and thin, and I suspect produced with a high larynx, which can be less stable. Could be she has a more natural more mature timbre that's deeper, and she's in an awkward spot currently coaching out that sustainable sound still developing. Her phrasing and riffs are always fun though.

[@MotoGPForever4527]

I’ve never been one to jump on the “Ariana never enunciates” bandwagon, but Jesus Christ that clip at 5:06…

[@Yaio.e]

It is because you can identify a Mariah Carey song as a Mariah Carey song and she writes and produces herself. And aside from her vocals her writing is maybe even better. So i think that will resonate with people more and especially longer.

[@bubblybubbles09]

The thumbnail with blackpink on the bottom left corner with the words "WHERE ARE YOU?" Sent me to heaven

[@lobaetoile8440]

I think people should be allowed to praise whoever they like with whatever adjectives and hyperboles they want. Unless they are having a technical discussion, in that specific situation I would expect people to use accurate descriptors in relation to the context.

[@hughw2377]

K pop singers usually use "the baby voice" all the time

[@elvandrerandallcoakley8492]

Pink is like the mezzo version of Kelly Clarkson. Their timbre sound a lot like.

[@gabriella_tini]

“Yes I desperately need blackpink in my area” U AND ME BOTH😭😭😭

[@jenniemochixo]

A lot of people who say idols like Momo have fake voices really don't account for the different vocal types and different ranges... Momo's lower range is really nice! It's my favourite part of her singing voice, and I think she generally sings higher to just keep in style with the song she's a part of, or to fit the typical "higher" voices of kpop.

[@summermbaaa]

umm chile, anyways camila she even lowered octaves to never be the same, i think she is having problems with belting and upper registers

[@omarrudbergsinging8650]

I don’t know if you’ll see this but I was watching your video the other day about male pop singers needing to step it up and it inspired my last (and first) video and i included a little clip of your video in mine i hope you don’t mind! :) also i’ve been binge watching all of your videos lately they’re so good

[@leonardomapurunga753]

In my country (Brazil) Whitney and Celine had the same amount of successful hits songs as Mariah, if not more... Let's be honest, more than half of Mariah's number 1 died in that time they were released and songs like Always be my baby, Shake it Off, Obsessed and some more aged way better.

[@samuelking9497]

Thats very true

[@hughw2377]

However let's talk about how, AIWFCIY aged IMMACULATELY!

[@krissy9128]

Based on stats Mariah is #1 is placed like Brazil, Asia Etc, but in the US popularity and stats is close among all 3 women. With Mariah actually edging them with streams and sales in recent times. Overall, Mariahs entire catalogue has aged a lot better than the two others. They have become mostly known for their most popular ballads or adult contemporary songs, whereas, Mariah is known to have several hits across a range of genres/subgenres. Her discography is much more diverse which makes her reach more audiences other then people 45+ years old. As younger generations grow and discover them you find that they connect to Mariahs work more (pop/rnb...pop/hiphop). Balladry is kinda de*d, although that formula is working for people like Adele.

[@leonardomapurunga753]

@@krissy9128 I can see that. Her cover of "I want to know what love is" was a massive hit here, it got #1 for some weeks and ended up being the biggest foreign song from 2009/early 2010 out passing Halo from Bey witch was a global hit.

[@leonardomapurunga753]

@@hughw2377 well, AIWFCIY became her most memorable song right, I think before that her most known song was probably Hero.

[@filipmarinkovic6281]

BlackPink said comeback is coming sooner than we think soooo can't wait for BP2 bc they're dropping 2nd full album this yewearrrRrr

[@guisas123]

Rumor has it blackpink is coming to our area late May-early June this year 👀 let's pray

[@kmerispe]

I think for camila this has always been the case. Her lives sounds so good at the start of her album promotions but then get's vocally drained as more performances go but by all means she still sounds good but not consistent.

[@melodramatic7904]

Thank you so much for sayint that piece about how bad technique can sound good. I am so sick of vocal coaches bashing certain professional singers because of bad technique.

[@daytonsouthall1137]

Never been the biggest fan of Camila’s voice as it is but now her voice has become unbearable to listen to. Wtf happened

[@nekokurokawa6684]

I love Momo’s voice so much and wish she got more time in songs and had more time to develop her voice, but it makes sense her vocal parts being low being the main dancer.

[@joanquintero4670]

my unpopular opinion is that Jojo has had a vocal decline specifically on her belts compare to herself during the years of these clips 4:02

[@TheSheldon06]

She had a really bad run in with laryngitis during her mad love tour (aka a little bit after that clip you’ve shown as that was her tour promotion video) taking a massive hit on her ease in hitting higher belts. Also due to her not being able to hit higher belts as easily as she used to, she’s had anxiety and gets into her head with them. It’s been a steady recovery but she’s been improving a lot over the past few years. Her quarantine vocals were superb and she’s even hit a G5 recently that sounds amazing.

[@joemelcruz6556]

I feel the same kween 😭.

[@aintnootherfan]

I think her voice is going through some changes and she's adapting. I'll be looking at her vocals on tour that she's currently on. She still was doing well in 2020! Her voice (or rather her vocal condition) has always been slightly inconsistent and I think it's too early for now to say she's had a vocal decline

[@TheSheldon06]

@@aintnootherfan you should watch her duet with Tori Kelly on her show in LA! They did Don’t Talk Me Down and it was amazing on both parts

[@joanquintero4670]

@@TheSheldon06 her belts weren't still that clean

[@lindsey8998]

BlackPink comeback is nowhere in sight, Lovesick Girls and The Album were released more than a year ago🧍‍♀️

[@mooblink4ever899]

I'm gonna cry 😭

[@samuel-ge9ut]

i hate when people use the term "fake voice". fake means that something is not real, so if you can sing like that without the help of any autotune or vocal effects it's NOT FAKE. as a rosé stan i'm very tired of people calling high pitched tones fake when it just depends on the register or the notes your singing.

[@takemyhand1988]

You do can fake your voice though. Mimcry artists does that.

[@quentyncole9530]

my girl kathryn is singing! i been knew!

[@notagname]

i don't think it's fair to say camila's vocals are declining when realistically speaking she hasn't had a live performances for 2 years straight after 2019 and just started performing again late last year with don't go yet. Like let the girl get used to performing again. Also when she's standing still she sings just find, her stamina might just be the problem right now.

[@guilhermelima5812]

Sing with an imperfect technique sometimes is like when Joss Stone sings " I've got a right to be wrong Got to sing my own song I might be singing out of key But it sure feels good to me".

[@KpopsFatherTaehyung]

I thought i was the only one who realized camila declined

[@cropped1449]

Why do you vocal channels refuse to talk about Lady Gaga vocal decline? her decline it's way more proeminent than Camila Cabello's, she's been sounding consistenly off in every way since 2019, lost tone quality, vibrato, consistency, stamina, support, ease, agility and have to lower the key of many songs in her shows setlists that she used to sing with no problem a couple yeras ago (aura, the edge of glory, anything goes, orange colored sky), the only part of her voice that remains the same are her lows, the rest is pretty damaged. and yet yall prefer to simply ignore her multiple vocally underwhelming performances from the last years and pretend like she still has the vocals from that Star Spangled Banner performance you used from 9 years in 3:10? its a bit biased kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJPOlqCifMuGiLc

[@goldranger5182]

And Beyonce vocal decline

[@cropped1449]

@@goldranger5182 Beyoncé voice got very rough, but she still has her technique lady gaga sounds like judy garland in her last days of life, but worse

[@ciceromiguel6423]

Camila is sounding like me WTF

[@joejoestar5391]

I think Camila has something called "sinusitis" (I think I spelled it wrong my bad) and she has mentioned it before, that it affects her singing for the most part. She's said that she's done performances while she is sick, but overall I think in some new performances her voice sounds healthier she just needs some rest✨

[@namanh8439]

Hello if u want to evaluate Momo's real voice, u should trace back to her The Way You Love Me and Swing Baby performance in Sixteen (the survival show she was in to get into Twice). As a diehard Momo stan i can totally see the differences between then and now. None of "real voice" they assumed after her debut sounded like her actual "real voice". I agree that the video you used was just her singing in the lower register, but it is still her fake voice in the lower register. Please watch her performances in Sixteen. I would love to hear your re-evaluations after that

[@alfredovillalobos6723]

I was counting seconds for your weekly upload:) ty for another amazing vid !!

[@allisonjohns4623]

Whitney and Celine are better vocalists imo BUT to me that doesn't matter as much as musical taste, Mariah Carey's songwriting/ style is far more diverse

[@Sloppyjoey1]

No tea no shade but...To "decline" you must first start from a higher point. Camilla plateaued.. She's gone from barely average to below average and everyone knows it.

[@ST-vg3vs]

Define everyone?

[@Sloppyjoey1]

@@ST-vg3vs "Everyone" = Clear consensus to the point that it barely needs to be discussed. As he said in the video it's okay to call a singer vocally lacking and move on. Camilla was always vocally lacking so it's hard even for people with experience to hear a "decline" because she wasn't ever really that promising. I'm not taking away from her art but rather her performing.

[@iosashes2087]

That’s not true whatsoever. Camila’s voice has always been tonally…polarizing, but she’s a very solid vocalist technically speaking. It’s just very hard for people to be honest about her voice bc they either don’t like her tone, don’t like her for legitimate reasons that have zero to do with singing, or are super fans who think she can do no wrong. She isn’t the best singer out there but she is certainly one of the better ones of the current gen of pop girls.

[@Sloppyjoey1]

@@iosashes2087 "Polarizing tone"??? I'm sorry but when most people do not like your tone we call that bad tone. 50/50 is what we call 'polarizing'... there is no 50% of people saying Camilla has great tone, and frankly if you tried that you might even be laughed at. Tone is straight up a weak point for Camilla and there's no need for us to sit here and bullshit about it lol. We don't need to use words like 'polarizing' to describe a disagreeable tone in a nice way. Tone is something that can be improved. No one is forcing Camilla to sing ultra nasal and pronounce words like a baby with a lisp and use airy notes and vocal fry. If you like that sound, that's 100% fine but don't juxtapose that next to how most people want their vocals to be delivered when you know it's niche.

[@iosashes2087]

@@Sloppyjoey1 there’s a reason she’s a popular as she is. Just bc you and I don’t like it doesn’t mean other ppl don’t. That’s why it’s polarizing. Some ppl love her tone, some hate it. Very few ppl seem to be in the middle. If she was as niche as you say she would make no noise. I agree her tone can be improved, but that tone is what made her career whether you or I like it or not. That’s her signature.

[@emmalauriston4983]

Queen of impressive vocals while on your is Beyonce..no wonder ppl think she's possessed by some spirit when she performs cause those vocals while dancing on heels for two hours are Incredible

[@richmaxmchalliwchester1984]

My opinions:: 1. Camila's vocal decline - i don't think she has vocal decline, Camila's voice is naturally nasal and raspy, but rather she seems little confused to me. We know that Camila started vocal lessons since start of pandemic and i think that's mostly the reason, she's finding new technique, trying new sounds and that's why her performances in this last era are hit or miss. She became less nasal and she's working on her mix, so sometimes she's creating too much tension and that's why she sounds little rough, but for example her first performance of Bam Bam was great or her Tiny Desk also was good even though she was sick. So i think Camila just needs to sing more and just really find herself, but she doesn't have real vocal decline, i'd say that her technique is getting slowly better. 2. Katy's vocal prime - absolutely agree, Katy sounds amazing, holy shit, she never sounded better. I'm so proud of her. 3. Mezzos vs Sopranos - i agree with everything that was said. 4. Vocal rest - i agree on this, some singers needs have proper rest between performances or they'll sound rough, best example is definitely Perrie Edwards, well rested Perrie is one of 10 best vocalists of this generation, but when she's performing too frequently her voice sounds rough and her technique's worse. On the other hand some singers needs to consistently perform of they lose some skills, best example i know about is Taylor Swift. As a Swiftie i know about her vocals a lot, and i can say that on begins of her eras she sounds pitchy and as she's getting used to perform again her pitch gets better. Since pandemic Taylor had only 6 performances (2 - 2020, 4 - 2021: Folklore: Long Pond Studio Sessions, Betty at ACM Awards, Cardigan/August/Willow on Grammys, Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow at Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, All Too Well on SNL and All Too Well at ATW: Short Film premiere. And in 2 of them she had pitch problems, WYSLMT at Rock n Roll Hall of Fame - her technique was good, but she was pitchy on some notes and All Too Well on SNL she was pitchy in some parts and her voice sounded little dry, on other performances was her pitch and technique good, so Taylor definitely needs perform more frequently. 5. Vocal technique - agree, ''imperfections'' can often sounds amazing, i'm enjoying some vocals or singers even though their technique can be little risky, but it sounds so cool and unique. 6. Subjective - objective - agree on this one, everybody has different tastes and you can enjoy different sounds and different singers more than other singers, but that's not making your favorites better vocalists. For example Olivia Rodrigo - I love Olivia and so far she's promising as vocalist but that's it, there are plenty of things that she should work on, like her low notes and belting above D5, and just overall technique. Soon we'll see how she's going to deal with vocals on her tour. 7. and 8 - not a kpop fan, so i have no really opinion on this. 9. Whitney and Celine being underrated musically compare to Mariah - yes this is true, Mariah definitely has more famous and appreciated music catalog than Whitney and Celine, but both of them also have good music and a lot jams.

[@kng001]

2:59 : This sound like on another level ( Diva’s level ) of what her peers can do. Do you think that Beyoncé is vocally superior to her peers and near the vocal trinity ?

[@takemyhand1988]

Beyonce is definitely one of the best of this decade. But her belting is not near trinity. She mixes instead of belting. In everything else, she can compete with the Trinity

[@aaronnewman7573]

@@takemyhand1988 i agree but not everybody gotta belt

[@Solo-vh9fm]

Well her voice has lasted the longest without relying on masking.

[@toshiro8997]

@@takemyhand1988 Beyoncé is overall more developed as the vocal trinity. I mean at each register she‘s fantastic. The trinity were never perfekt. Whitney had weak lows, Mariah a weak head-voice and Celiné‘s upper-belts sometimes are… well. I think you all know what I mean.

[@toshiro8997]

Beyoncé is probably the only who can compete with the vocal trinity. Saying she isn‘t on their level is pure hate.

[@charfree6888]

I agree with the proper technique not being THAT important. Unless it's in a musical. But in pop, proper technique makes the performance not genuine.

[@takemyhand1988]

Who said that? Actual great vocalists can do both. For example, look up judy garland singing old man river

[@charfree6888]

@@takemyhand1988 ok. My comment = my opinion

[@takemyhand1988]

@@charfree6888 i just presented a counter argument

[@takemyhand1988]

@@charfree6888 also my reply= my opinion

[@charfree6888]

@@takemyhand1988 I didn't oppose ur opinion. I even said "ok".

[@kingjames507]

Ayeee the Naruto transition music🙏🏽 I officially love you

[@isaidwhatisaid3564]

OMGGG yes!! I understand people wanting to praise people but calling everyone great and amazing is just weird. When did good and okay become so bad

[@guilhermelima5812]

I agree about Camila Cabello. I think that BlackPink could be bigger than they are now, but YG don't gave the support, they should be a phenomenon like Spice Girls. I don't that they delaying their comeback is a good strategy in Korea or world wide, because they don't have that long term strategy career like Adele, it is pop they need that breakthrough to be remarkable like BTS, but YG have a notorious mismanagement historical.

[@camilacabellobruh1081]

Imagine using bad performances as an example instead of the good ones

[@goldyd144]

About Momo's voice - it's that JYP nasal technique. Momo is a rapper. She has a great voice for rapping. But JYP(E) wants her to sing in a high, cutesy tone. Hence the "fake" voice debate among fans. Kinda like how YG made Rosé sing like Park Bom. It's not fake in the sense that they can't do it, it's "fake" because there's clearly a more comfortable range or style that they should sing in, but due to the groups they're in, the way they're marketed, the key of the songs, etc... Be whatever it may be, it comes off as fake to people when it's really not. It's more... Uncomfortable? Something like that.

[@lilachodan4941]

10:28 Oh yes she has. That's why her voice is so so goood!

[@Chuu_Vault]

1. now that i hear it....... :o 2. YAS KATY 3. Barbra Streisand. PERIOD 4. i never thought that 5. x2 i think the same 6. :o Jesus is shocked (me) 7. he said it 8. TwT 9. as im no familiried with Twice i'm just gonna look what he's saying 10. THIS THREE WOMAN HAS SOME OF THE BEST ALBUMS OF THE 90's. PERIOD

[@takemyhand1988]

Did you mean 3. as that Barbra is a mezzo? She's a soprano

[@Chuu_Vault]

@@takemyhand1988 i actually Barbra is a mezzo she has a lot weight on her voice and her iconic mid belts are the bests part of her voice, she has great upper belts for sure. But her mid range is the most comfotarble place for her voice (from what i heard)

[@takemyhand1988]

@@Chuu_Vault she's a Broadway singer. All Broadway belters sound their best in midrange.

[@leafyyy813]

Imo I feel like olivia is a good vocalist for her being 19

[@crickets6114]

she’s a terrible vocalist, decent singer but nobody would label her a vocalist

[@leafyyy813]

@@crickets6114 keyword my opinion

[@crickets6114]

@@leafyyy813 it’s not an opinion, from a vocal standpoint she is *objectively* bad as a vocalist, you may like the way she sings but when it comes to her actual voice she has a lot to learn

[@takemyhand1988]

What does 19 has to do with anything? Most great vocalists sounded just as good as their prime in their teen years.

[@KatyTheQueeny]

Katy Perry at 2009 - 2012 has a beautiful tone, especially he always does vocal runs

[@samoanbiscuit]

Let's hear it for lambs that love and appreciate Whitney and Celine! There's literally millions of us!

[@deomunipersaud8536]

Finally some Celine Appreciation !!

[@vitaliscarey]

🤨 I'd still prefer the vocal trinity

[@melliexcx]

"not everyone is an amazing vocalist" damn I kinda don't care, I'll say what I want to thanks 😹

[@hunniii2356]

For Camila I don't think she is I'm decline, I think it's tiredness (idk if that's even a word but you get my point)

[@vocalsbycyrus]

Sorry but putting 6:41 as technical imperfection is just inaccurate. When she is purposefully putting precise distortion, increasing the weight to give her a fuller sound while maintaining a healthy and balanced tone to not hurt her voice takes skill. Many singers try to growl and use distorted vocals and it ends sounding rough and it's not the case here. You may not like her new technique but it's far from imperfect like you're saying.

[@Shekinah222]

Can you make a video comparing technique of female Broadway singers?