Why the Honda ST1300 Pan European is One of Honda's Best Motorcycles Ever!

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@mikerogers1216
@mikerogers1216 Жыл бұрын
I also have an '04 ST1300. I bought her in 2017 with 34k miles and just turned 100k and she's still going strong. Absolutely love this bike!
@roberthampton8682
@roberthampton8682 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! And I agree with you on the ST1300! Since November 2005, when I bought my first ST1300, I have put on over 398,000 miles between five of them. I put 174.3K miles on my first, selling it to one of my sons back in 2013. He has over 190K on it now. I have a 2010, that I bought wrecked, it only had 1,500 miles on it and I have put over 100K miles on it. When I was working/commuting in SoCal, I had 125 miles a day, including a lot of lane splitting. The ST1300 was a perfect bike for that. I'm now retired and haven't been able to ride as much as I would like, so right now I have 4 ST1300s, and I'm having to thin my herd, since I just can't see them sitting around. Again, these are great bikes and I love every time I get on one of them and go for a ride! I do prefer long rides of course! ;) Enjoy yours!
@cnw-jd9tt
@cnw-jd9tt 7 ай бұрын
Man im having trouble finding a decent one here in texas! Most are destroyed or rusted up
@dumptrump3788
@dumptrump3788 10 ай бұрын
Honda made a HUGE mistake when they dropped the ST1300. The bloated Gold Wing is far too big & way too expensive for a lot of people & the ST1300 filled the gap between 1000cc inline tourers & the Bloat Wing. Why they dropped it & didn't update it saddens me.
@peterraymon4551
@peterraymon4551 10 ай бұрын
I personally don't know but I did hear they supposedly to be coming out with a 2024 pan-european in Germany first there's a video of it that has redesigned of one but you do know it's a st1300 if you were see it KZbin video all it shows is the older model.. from the picture on the screen that leads you to the video it looks real good... It would be nice if they bring it out
@cnw-jd9tt
@cnw-jd9tt 7 ай бұрын
Same I plan to pick up a st 1300
@WADER999
@WADER999 7 ай бұрын
Old construction. New is NT1100
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine has the ST 1100. I would have to say, it's the best "all 'round" bike that I've ever ridden. It pulls like a steam train, down low, and when you get it up in the rev range, a bit, it goes like a rocket. On a flat level road it will comfortably move along in top gear at 40mph without lugging. If you drop it down a gear at 60, to overtake, you pass whatever you're passing in no time. And the engine doesn't vibrate anywhere in the rev range, unlike its main competitor from the day, the BMW K series. It's a heavy bike, but despite that, surprisingly sporty, and that sportiness doesn't come at the expense of ride quality. The brakes are more than adequate, too. But no bike is perfect. The stock seat wouldn't be out of place on a tractor built during the depression. It takes a team of 40 race mechanics a week to get the plastics off to in order to perform the most menial engine maintenance jobs. And the bike is heavy. If you park it nose down on the slightest gradient and can't ride it out forward, that's where the bike is staying, for eternity. You aren't pulling it out without help. This is the only reason that I would say that the ST 1100 isn't the "best" city bike. Out in the country, however, and if you spend a lot of time in the saddle, these things are hard to go past. I'd love to try the 1300 to see how they compare.
@cibsim
@cibsim Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@charlesc4321
@charlesc4321 Жыл бұрын
The cultural analogs you used to describe this amazing machine had me in stitches. I bought my first one three years ago and am still convinced Honda kiboshed the ST because it started to hurt their bottom line. I bought mine at 48K - I'm at 60K now. Not a goddamn thing ever went wrong besides routine maintenance. They are also incredibly easy to work on... afterall the ST is known for being a little behind the times. But we don't buy STs because they are trendy, we buy them because they look good and can be easily maintained at home. That's the thing, you put a ton of miles on the ST and save a lot of money in the process by maintaining the bike yourself.
@lorcanroche2987
@lorcanroche2987 8 ай бұрын
I'm on 3rd st 1300. Brilliant bikes. I usually have something around 500 to 650 as a toy or for mountains and while ill try everything from a versys 650 to a ktm i will always have an st for motorways, distance, comfort, pillion and wind resistance. Handling is awesome for a big bike. Reliability is superb.
@whirledpeas3477
@whirledpeas3477 9 ай бұрын
I just bought a st1300 from my local PD. haven't picked it up yet, I can't wait to get it. Thanks for the video
@geoffsmith1616
@geoffsmith1616 Жыл бұрын
I have one I agree there fantastic bikes amazing build quality and owners love them which means generally there looked after
@srgriffiths1973
@srgriffiths1973 Жыл бұрын
What a tremendous video. I’m buying one shortly here in the UK so I’ve been watching loads of videos. Your video stands out. I put my finger on it but it was brilliant. I have subscribed 👍🏼😎
@JR-bj3uf
@JR-bj3uf 3 ай бұрын
I started as a mechanic back in the 1980s at a Triumph and BMW dealership. For years I wanted a BMW R100RS because it was, in my mind, the3 perfect sport touring bike. An then I got a chance to ride the ST1300 and now it is my go-to bike for sport touring.
@glennmiddleton5634
@glennmiddleton5634 Жыл бұрын
I have had my ST for a few years. If Honda started making these again I would but new one in a heartbeat. Handles incredibly well (Michelin Road 5), good mileage & range (19km/l, 29L tank) for a 500km range, great wind protection, quiet and quick! Even my local Honda dealer told me if I have an ST I would not be happy with a Wing.
@ronfriedman8740
@ronfriedman8740 Жыл бұрын
Never rode one, but I recall reading an interview with Jesse James where he was asked what the best motorcycle was ...the Honda ST1300.
@mikehynek
@mikehynek 3 ай бұрын
I just bought a 2005 with 20k miles. After changing all fluids and filters, it's awesome in Colorado.
@altamash4242
@altamash4242 3 ай бұрын
That's true, bro. I personally feel that this bike is an awesome product from honda 👌. Actually, I'm working in Bahrain 🇧🇭 and I bought the complete rear set of the bike from the scrap yard. I took the complete set to india 🇮🇳 , and fixed it on my BAJAJ AVENGER 220 cc bike. I personally modified it. And it looks awesome. So many people asked me about my bike.
@equivokal
@equivokal Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah love the new format
@Moto-Zero
@Moto-Zero Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of st1300. I ride an nc750x and its a blast for commuting and even touring. Its has just enough power to get you by on highway. But would love to have an st1300 for touring some day! Especially the price tag on these things, makes it a no brainer.
@philipriggall5271
@philipriggall5271 Жыл бұрын
I've just put a deposit on 2003 ST1300, 48,000 miles, vgc, £1,800. Flying up country next Sunday with daughter and riding home just under 400 miles next day. Can't wait.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace Жыл бұрын
Look great and rides great, just the sound... I agree with you, is not on the same level. Great video bro. Enjoyed. Cheers.
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
It sounds pretty good if you get on it. But this thing was meant to be quiet and smooth. Very unique sounding engine.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace Жыл бұрын
@@motardsquid I agree bro. When you have time just drop by, you may like my content, I am your sub for years now. :)
@justcheckinm8
@justcheckinm8 11 ай бұрын
I'm currently reviving my 2003 ST after 12 years of not being ridden, 1/2 full lower tank (fuel is damn nasty after 12 years!). I cut open a car with it in a head-on not long before it got parked up, so the front half has done about 12,000 km..the back half abut 32,000km. Put the very first km on it, looking forward to getting it back up and running to put loads more on.
@peterraymon4551
@peterraymon4551 10 ай бұрын
I have to tell you back in the day when I was running sport bike and I would see a goldwing BMW bagger Harley-Davidson Street or road glide and I would be thinking Old Man bike man if I only knew what I know now . I now have ST 1300 and as primitive as it is it's no doubt the dependable maintenance-free of course you got to do the usual oil plugs air filter . Best running bike I have.. With 2 North Carolina to Arizona and back and a few other trips in between she still runs great....
@laurenshommen1767
@laurenshommen1767 8 ай бұрын
great bike a own a red one,drive it the hole year around to work and never let me down.about the tires your right, about 10.000 km.
@Youk709
@Youk709 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a ST1300 and agree 100% with you. This bike is the Sean Connery of motorcycles, it ages gracefully and packs a punch with open road adventures. Tire longevity is definitely a con of this bike, but when you put it against the reliability and comfort that the ST offers then it's bearable. I've been running Meltzer tires on mine but considering switching to Dunlop on the next tire change. Michelin are becoming to expensive for the mileage you get from them, plus when you get a tire that you like (road 4, road 5) they discontinue that model for the latest model ($$$$). I have been playing with the idea of Shinko as well and noticed that you have Shinko Verge 011 on your ST. What are you thoughts on Shinko tires on the ST for performance in rain and corners, road feedback and longevity? Could be a good topic for your next video. Thanks again for posting. I appreciate the information you provide. Ride safe.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace Жыл бұрын
I believe it is quite hard to get one in really good condition with a low mileage. Otherwise a wonderful bike. A proper ST bike, like they were in the beginning of 2000s. :) Drop by mate, you may like my content.
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
The shinkos barely lasted a trip to Maine. And I got 3 screws on it. Not the Shinkos fault, i've bought many shinkos but unfortunately these are not holding up well.
@cibsim
@cibsim Жыл бұрын
T32 tires from Bridgestone are good as well...
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace Жыл бұрын
@@cibsim Yes, they are. Have them. :)
@whammo11224
@whammo11224 7 ай бұрын
The only thing that Honda hasn't changed on its bikes in over 40 years is the exhaust sound!
@El_chico26121
@El_chico26121 Жыл бұрын
you look so good with st1300 👍 i like so much your videos with st. here in italy the st cost about 5000 used and there is few. more than k1200gt 😯 and k1200gt have cruise control. more power. more protection. less consumation. and warm seat and hand. my english is poor ☺️. but i like yours videos with st ☺️✌️🤙 you are riding more fast after you comeback from europe ☺️ becarefull ✌️🤙
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
Yeah i noticed that in Europe the Pan european was extremely expensive. I'll be a millionare if i start exporting them to Italy to sell. Here in the U.S. they are cheap. I've seen them for 2000$ (thats like 1800 euros)
@granthendriksz2507
@granthendriksz2507 7 ай бұрын
Just bought one. Love at first site.❤
@ianp8921
@ianp8921 8 ай бұрын
200,000 kms on my 07 1300. no issues
@rodneyallred1742
@rodneyallred1742 6 ай бұрын
Sweet Man.....8,700 on my 2016 st 1300 P. My miles will get up there...Getting ready to retire....I rev her hard..she does not complain. God Bless...
@rodneybjornstad9016
@rodneybjornstad9016 8 ай бұрын
Have had …. 2005 Kawasaki concours / 1991 Honda st 1100/ 2001 triumph trophy / 2007 Honda st 1300 ( still have ) and a 2015 triumph trophy St 1100 was like an electric bike. So vibration free. St 1300 IS more too heavy than st 1100 due to gas tank actually holding gas but it’s fuel injected. Handles like a dream. Better seat. Can be raised. Windshield can go up and down. Damn near bullet proof Doesn’t have cruise control Does nearly everything as well or better than triumph trophy …. But love it will keep both Verdict. You can’t get more cycle for say $4500 to $5500 than that pan European. Joy to ride
@sabre0461
@sabre0461 9 ай бұрын
I'm going into my 3rd year with my '07 ST1300, can't wait for riding season. My only issue with her is she's kinda heavy...😊
@eddie_cooper
@eddie_cooper 8 ай бұрын
Nice video 👍🏼
@kennypool
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
Good morning, good review.
@hannesvanheerden6946
@hannesvanheerden6946 Жыл бұрын
I have a red 2009 with 47000Km and love my bike, best I've ever owned.
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
St's have a strong loyal fan base!
@OooomDeeEckee
@OooomDeeEckee 11 ай бұрын
I didn't think I was going to get mine back after having new brakes and tires installed. They thought I was trading it in. I laughed, they were sad. all is good.
@MannyScoot
@MannyScoot 7 ай бұрын
you will not understand the Hype until you own one !!!!
@thewhomphlew
@thewhomphlew Жыл бұрын
I've totalled 3 st's in a year. One is on my channel. I did a wheelie at a show with a broken left hand.
@DRiver-vl3um
@DRiver-vl3um Жыл бұрын
What brand of seat is that? Looks a lot like a Laam,
@OooomDeeEckee
@OooomDeeEckee 11 ай бұрын
I have a white one. I wanted a white one. I also have a F900R. I pick the white one all the time.
@donaldlee1427
@donaldlee1427 9 ай бұрын
Love these videos! Question...which is the best bike for the ultimate (sportier) tourer, FJR, Concours, Honda st1300, bmw k1600gt/gtl? I'm seriously trying to make decisions on which to get and I'm 6'6 🙏🏾
@cibsim
@cibsim 6 ай бұрын
Honda ST1300 ABS of course. I own one...
@jeffreygwinn5081
@jeffreygwinn5081 6 күн бұрын
Just picked up an 05
@morganlepine4744
@morganlepine4744 8 ай бұрын
que sont les barres de ferraille dans les protections de carenages sur les cotés???
@motardsquid
@motardsquid 7 ай бұрын
those are the side case crash bars, they protect the bike rear saddlebags in case of a drop
@luckyeteeths4972
@luckyeteeths4972 5 ай бұрын
How can I buy that in the Philippines?
@Lt_Tragg
@Lt_Tragg Жыл бұрын
Good review. But, thats not the OEM seat is it? That alone makes all the difference in the world.
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
No not the stock seat. My last 03 had a stock seat and i never had a complaint. But then again, i put 87k on a ninja 250 and thought it was a great touring bike
@altec19
@altec19 Жыл бұрын
@@motardsquid Is that a Russell day long seat on your ST 1300 ?
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
@@altec19 im not sure the brand. But whatever it is i prefer sitting on it than my office chair
@grahamalbrey2804
@grahamalbrey2804 Жыл бұрын
I thought the "elephant in the room" was the engine heat dissemination issues I'm reading about. "Frame members too hot to touch", "cooked crotches", "heat rash on legs", fuel actually boiling in the tank🥵 (it's on KZbin, see for yourself), "impossible to ride for any duration in hot weather", "you could heat a frozen meat pie in the console glove box". It goes on and on where ever I look. Im actually looking to buy one of these bikes, a 2004. Can any of you fan boys enlighten me on the realities of doing distance with the heat issues?
@Mike.233
@Mike.233 Жыл бұрын
I ride mine in the UK and only really notice on a hot day at traffic lights etc
@yeright2pops434
@yeright2pops434 11 ай бұрын
Anyone have a drivers seat backrest on their ST1300?
@boodog4023
@boodog4023 Жыл бұрын
I thought the elephant in the room was the MPG--because if that v4 is like the VFR it will only get in the 30s
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
Yeah you are right, it gets terrible mpg. But i get 40ish if you believe the onboard computer. It definately gets 30s if you are riding it on backroads.
@sparkypdx
@sparkypdx Жыл бұрын
@@motardsquid i wish i could get 40. I only get 32 on average. I should add a heavy duty spring to the throttle.
@kevinx9225
@kevinx9225 Жыл бұрын
What position do you run your screen? I run mine 3/4 up and shows mid 40s mpg. I run 2 bikes so it's hard to calculate true MPG because one bike will sit a long time. Sometimes months, but I've still acquired over 120k on my 2003.
@tg8150
@tg8150 Жыл бұрын
My 2008 C-14 would get 45-50 all day long. Far superior to this thing in every facet.
@a.r.t.4611
@a.r.t.4611 10 ай бұрын
I get about 550/570 per 29l tank. But I've been told several occasions, I'm a smooth rider.
@allanhughes7859
@allanhughes7859 9 ай бұрын
HOW MANY MORE TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THESE UP LOADS WE ALL KNOW FELLA THAT THIS IS A GREAT BIKE SO FOR GOD SAKE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR DAY JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@motardsquid
@motardsquid 9 ай бұрын
Someone is grumpy🤣
@sunshowerpainting1
@sunshowerpainting1 Жыл бұрын
Honda ST 1300 or Yamaha FJR 1300?
@andrewsergeev23
@andrewsergeev23 8 ай бұрын
Exuse me, what state you are in?
@berniemadoff7837
@berniemadoff7837 2 ай бұрын
A state of constant anxiety 😂
@timmccarthy6374
@timmccarthy6374 4 ай бұрын
Im getting 8000 miles on rear tire and16000 on front dunlaps
@motardsquid
@motardsquid 4 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@seanmcgivney7631
@seanmcgivney7631 Жыл бұрын
Fine as frogs hair MS!
@jonanderson9210
@jonanderson9210 4 ай бұрын
Clean up your tank vent and fill drain tubes, you are dragging spaghetti.
@komalley35
@komalley35 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, did you say Honda's best or heaviest?
@tg8150
@tg8150 Жыл бұрын
No cruise control, not ahead of its time. They handle like a bag of boat anchors.
@ArnoldArnold-xc2eg
@ArnoldArnold-xc2eg Жыл бұрын
Seriously, this thing handle like a sport bike as soon as you stop worrying about the weight on the sticker. It's all about the pilot, not the bike.
@cibsim
@cibsim 6 ай бұрын
@@ArnoldArnold-xc2eg Right on.
@p.munster9209
@p.munster9209 8 ай бұрын
Wat een ijkel.
@inspireddroneimaging8797
@inspireddroneimaging8797 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 BMW K1200S … Far superior to the Honda … indeed most new bikes are either twins ( built to save cost ) or sports bikes built to win WSB … I’ve had all kinds of bikes over the years but my BMW got it right nearly 20 years ago 👍
@ArnoldArnold-xc2eg
@ArnoldArnold-xc2eg Жыл бұрын
Sorry but what about the K1200 reliability. The answer is "not so good", right? If it wasn't the case I would have kept mine. I agree, the K12 has more power and it's a modern bike, but owning one is a pain with no end, I have been there. I have now 80K on my ST13, beside the regular maintenance you drive it, that's all.
@denveryoder9358
@denveryoder9358 8 ай бұрын
BMW has some butt ugly handlebars
@rghost1647
@rghost1647 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha FJR1300 AS are better
@cibsim
@cibsim 6 ай бұрын
Prove it!
@tomodonoghue3309
@tomodonoghue3309 11 ай бұрын
ST1100 is better.
@eddie_cooper
@eddie_cooper 8 ай бұрын
Wy ? I wanne buy one maybe later upgrade to 1300 but I hear this a lot please tell me
@MrDosSantos991
@MrDosSantos991 6 ай бұрын
No absolutely not, the 1100 is slower and has bad quality swingarm and also has a belt..
@knowone6214
@knowone6214 Жыл бұрын
overpriced heavy POS then and now
@motardsquid
@motardsquid Жыл бұрын
Someone is jelly ;)
@seanmcgivney7631
@seanmcgivney7631 Жыл бұрын
Someone is crazy.
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