Mother and Child Divided - Porcupine Tree

[@dreamtheater1957]

i am 54 years young and never heard music like this... fucking amazing!

[@strangerpilgrim]

I'm 60 and I'm thrilled too )))

[@MadhurjyaDeka-jq5vu]

The later you discover PT the better. I was 20 when I discovered them. Now I'm like28 and finding it hard to find a band that can top them.

[@northernlights9637]

I have been a drummer most of my life and this has got to be hands down one of the hardest rhythm signatures I have ever tried to tackle. Gavin has 3 different timings going on with the high hat snare and kick drum. Pure genius.

[@DavidFloegelDrums]

But it’s just 4/4?

[@puppetofmasters]

@@DavidFloegelDrums For the hihat it is. :D Kick drum and snare do a 5/8 thing twice, which is extended to a 6/8 figure the 3rd time around. Trickiest thing (for me) is the ghost notes, though (best heard/seen here kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKa8m3qcls6req8. 2:00-2:30). And the double bassdrum stuff. Incorporating that into this particular beat, I mean.

[@DavidFloegelDrums]

@@puppetofmasters i feel like you’re making it way more difficult than it is. I know porcupine tree themselves think of this as 4/4 (which it is)

[@puppetofmasters]

​@@DavidFloegelDrums Your response reads very confusing. Since I'm not sure, where you're coming from, here's my thoughts: 1) I'm describing the beat you were asking about. If it sounds difficult to you, then it seems you consider it to be difficult. There's no way for me to make it anything more or less than it already is. I can tell you one thing, though. It's a lot more difficult to play than it is to hear, describe or read a description of. 2) It doesn't matter what I or you or Porcupine Tree consider the time to be. Whether or not it's in 4/4 is a) hardly up to discussion, 'cause pretty much anyone can identify a 4/4 when they hear it and b) totally and utterly unrelated to whether or not it is difficult. Most Meshuggah tracks are in 4/4, yet noone would seriously argue that going into detail about the rhythmic groups guitars, bass and drums are playing, would be "making it more difficult than it is". If a figure is in 5/8, saying it's in 5/8 isn't making anything into anything. Either you think odd groups within 4/4 is difficult to hear, play oder understand, or you don't. But me pointing out what it is, doesn't have a say in it. 3) So, yes it's in 4/4, obviously. But it's not "just" 4/4, obviously. Because that would imply something like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpTImnmop62fmKs

[@DavidFloegelDrums]

@@puppetofmasters i did actually do a small snippet of that tune somewhere on my channel 🙃 I agree with you on the kick doing a 5/8+5/8+6/8 - I just don't think of it as such. But of course everyone can think of patterns the way it works best for them!

[@DanielVerberne]

Richard Barbieri's keyboard sounds are melodies are what adds real atmosphere to a lot of Porcupine Tree tracks ... its subtle but so effective.

[@FranciscoBurrola]

Daniel Verberne absolutely!

[@mrpinkchink]

Absolutely. I love his subliminal tones and directions and nudges and licks and labyrinths - he is the proverbial icing in the misery cake.

[@TheRealLazyBear]

the double bass fills...

[@toprak3479]

@Joseph Knecht Exactly.

[@ivelinapancheva3681]

@Joseph Knecht Oh I love Jordan for his excesses, he's such a crafty embellisher, I'd compare his style to the rococo era decorations (beautiful for the sake of beauty) RB's gleaming sound is coming from another dimension, it's not even beautiful - it's transcendent.

[@StarfishBerryman]

I love everything by Porcupine Tree, even the way that Steven moves his hair while he's playing guitar, ahhhhh.

[@sowadely3041]

ohh yess!!

[@AYURBHATTA]

You Fuckin spoke my mind!!

[@kiwi9147]

Especially that !!

[@sab-ali]

Here for the thumbnail so I guess i'm specially here for the hair.

[@TimeandMonotony]

Love how we all love Steven's hair. 😆

[@zoan2013]

Amazing band. I actually have to thank Mike Portnoy for getting me into PT. He listed Fear of a Blank Planet as one of his favorite albums. I checked it out and got addicted immediately. :D

[@DanielVerberne]

Like the space between atoms in a neutron star, this band is tight.

[@joshuavideogames]

One of the best live acts you will EVER see.

[@shahryar1673]

This is the most Goddamned supergroup!! Probably one of those Bands who can sound better when performing live than in studio.

[@ricardoagostinho6236]

Agree

[@ricardoagostinho6236]

And not probably! Thats a fact...

[@sergeiveselovski3505]

Не лучше, но и не хуже. Просто великолепно!!!

[@omairsh8]

Steven's guitar tones are seriously unreal

[@Stefdrumchannel]

1:25 ... that drum fill definitely breaks some laws of physics

[@JanKlimo]

The reflection in Richard's glasses at 0:12 = pure badass :D

[@crazyirishdan]

Oh, Porcupine Tree, THANK YOU - I'd thought there were no bands left worth obsessing over, and I am ECSTATICALLY WRONG!!!

[@BrodyReyno]

Fucking hell. That rhythm section is balls to the wall hard to play on drums. Harrison isn’t human

[@PTCrucial]

This is insanely good. The time signature is impossibly complex.

[@BeardBasterd]

These are sound checks before the show.

[@madhurjyadeka5569]

Lmao

[@hmcdonnell23]

and to think I thought Tom Sawyer was difficult to play on the drums. By far, my favorite band. Just incredible.

I love this. My favorite band of all time.

[@thockinity]

+Mauricio Ibáñez Same!!

[@nolop408]

That bass is killer....

[@dylansantos5958]

Crazy ghost notes by Mr Harrison. Crazy rhythmic session

[@ricardoagostinho6236]

One of the best bands ever!! Great riffs full of melody. Wow

[@alisaiterkan]

I just can't believe how good this stuff is...

[@AnUnknownDrummer]

Don't let it scare you . . . . let it INSPIRE you!

[@Linixion]

The main riff will get stuck in my head for literally months. I can't listen often. Great track.

[@Stevesupcom]

It doesn't get any better than this.

[@41loner]

I'm another 50ish rocker, though I've been into PT about 10 years. I was searching for good buys on ebay. Kept seeing this strange name, Porcupine Tree. Man am I glad I was curious!

[@jamesharrison8842]

Amazing !!! Saw this live in Houston

[@Fetor]

I was at this show

[@tabz4840]

indeed. ive seen this show on dvd more times than i can count... hahaha

[@Masn00n]

@@tabz4840 Same!

[@panoseddie9975]

Prog Masters

[@HamletsMill25920]

A hundred and fifty thousand views. Are you fucking shitting me? So many people on this good planet missing out on transcendental music!

[@frakeonas]

I have a mancrush on Gavin Harrison

[@Jonnyjy]

lol xD

[@cwatson4271]

Frake Onas me too. Secret man-crush.

[@soulconnectedstudioproject4612]

Frake Onas 😂😂😂😂

[@maugonzalez6359]

Gavin is a monster!

[@88omair]

People who don't have something inherently wrong in them

[@davidtaylor4510]

Superb. One of The Trees finest aural creations, gets the kundalini flowing up and down the spine each time it is heard.

[@surfrusty12]

Those shots of Steven and John rocking out together from 4:33 to 4:48 are just fucking priceless.

[@christopherblue2004]

one of their best songs.

[@DanielVerberne]

2:41 - Gavin rockin' out... what a great band.

[@cwatson4271]

Tight. Excellent musicians. Love Gavin's timing.

[@siloagrain2176]

Put out on radio it will be fantastik

[@bknsmrzn]

Phenomenal band ever.

[@marcceleste474]

The re-entry back into the song at 3:54 is amazing...

[@sonjadietz5297]

Gavin Harrison....Drummer....SONOR.............BEST DRUMMER !!!

[@Jamesdrums89]

Gavin f**king Harrison :)

[@BeardBasterd]

✌💪

[@mhagnemae5202]

That 5 on the snare WTF!

[@sonjadietz5297]

YES

[@UnheardSage]

They consistently take me to happy

[@maximilianschmidt424]

I want to be there! Man they should continue

[@omairsh8]

Looks like they listened to you 😃

[@maximilianschmidt424]

@@omairsh8 yeah what a day. I still cannot believe that i will see them in a view months.

[@emmanuelbauchard9118]

Just love the end with the toms it s fantastic

[@dalnilo4018]

Mamma mia ❤

[@mofoftheyear]

Awesome shots of Colin Edwin between the last 5 drum fills (or so). :D

[@AlvoJAM]

Took me a while to realize this, but you can definitely hear the middle section of Meshuggah's "Soul Burn" in this song's main riff.

[@rodrre5]

Masterpieces anywhere!!!! Thanks you PT. Send greetings from Chile

[@MightyPuff]

Wena! Jajajaja

[@BethQareen]

Hermoso... I miss you guys... :(

[@ChaosInExpansion]

that synth intro!!!

[@javiergonzalez-dz7tr]

Que psada de batería, es para flipar este tio.

[@spoeegi]

that first beat gives me goosebumps every time, gavin is such a pleasure to listen to!

[@adwaitkocharekar9568]

This deserves many more views..

[@sonjadietz5297]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOD!

[@crystalkavita408]

that moment where Richard looks at Gavin!

[@BethQareen]

+Crystal Kavita I looked again and yes... !

[@EuriLochus]

You do make a good point, I forgot about those. But that is very true, there are so many little things happening and it's really what made me fall in love with PT

[@TheAdam159]

incredible track. this should have made it onto Deadwing

[@ericodijk]

TheAdam159 no, this way it is a lot more special, a sort of hidden track, only known to the lucky few...

[@justinchancellorlegod8057]

What lmao this song is on my version of deadwing

[@ericodijk]

Mr. and Mr. Toolmusicians, you should not worry, having Mr. Carey keeping things in (calculated dis-)order in your camp. And knowing Gavin is now in KC (saw him twice with both bands) I recall having heard Danny doing Red with KC. Love Tool as well, keep it up!

[@justinchancellorlegod8057]

What

[@tawilk]

@Joseph Knecht no it's not. it's a bonus track only available on certain editions....

[@abhipsamohanty7607]

Hell of a music man....I got goosebumps!! \m/

[@hisnickname]

Gavin so cool, that Fripp take man to see him as 3 drummer )

[@electronicsandroboticsclub750]

Absolutely LOVE the toms at the end!!

[@MightyPuff]

Instant headbang

[@BeardBasterd]

Song with out a word..only these gys can nail it..❤

[@nikelodeon6852]

Buddy expand ur musical horizons. PT isn't the only band to do instrumental songs..

[@BeardBasterd]

Yaah sure suggest me some..there are millions of songs I'm sure u also haven't heard all of them

[@nikelodeon6852]

@@BeardBasterd Call of ktulu, Orion by Metallica. YYZ, La villa Strangiato by Rush. Stream of consciousness, Hell's kitchen, dance of eternity by Dream Theatre...need any more suggestions?

[@BeardBasterd]

Was looking for somthing new😅..anyways thanks

[@nikelodeon6852]

@@BeardBasterd so u spout bullshit like there are millions of songs out there just to get more suggestions lol

[@shaygahweh]

That Sonor kit sounds so good, I wanna EAT IT

[@leonardolucibelli2238]

i'm speachless ...

[@Epsilon346]

@MrShelo09 It's on the bonus disk of Deadwing, along with So-Called Friend (also on this dvd), Half Light (on the Anesthetize dvd), Revenant, and a rendition of Shesmovdeon from Lightbulb Sun.

[@otto192]

what a song. OMG!!

[@mefistothegreat]

3:04 Every now and then Gavin needs a break from his Godliness.

[@TFFgeek]

No. The drums need a break from him.

[@coldlife1926]

GODS In Human Form!Anew album,we need!

[@omairsh8]

June 2022!

[@nodrush80]

Love PT and Rush,Gavins face is great at 2:41!

[@javiergonzalez-dz7tr]

queremos un drum cam de este tema

[@kangkandas4684]

Gods from different universe!

[@kavilavano4433]

ABSOLUTELY PROGRESSIVE..................

[@thockinity]

+Ardillez barullo ikr... porcupine tree is the definition of progressive in my opinion ^^

[@88Anesthetize]

Gavin Harrison's drumming ability frankly scares me.

[@BrodinBrothers22]

Why haven't I heard this band before?!

[@DSLIMD]

AWESOME!!!

[@rohanclassic]

That snare sounds so fucking awesome and tight and perfect and epic and amazing!! :-D

[@jamienichols4529]

Rohan Barbade You should check his lessons and tuning techniques!

[@mstmompj]

The opening riff reminds me a lot of Rush's "YYZ."

[@cristianriol1418]

Letal ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@shrijanaryal4923]

Ultimate jam

[@88omair]

3:04 Gunshots are being fired, GAVIN DUCK!

[@marekcom]

The best madaf_cking band on this planet!!! SW's Grace for Drowning is even more awsome!

[@YoSoy11]

excelenteeee!!!!

[@steliosb8195]

ladies and gentlmen gavin fucking harrison

[@copypaiste]

Sickest instrumental ever

[@BeardBasterd]

I think this is the sound checks going on..and GAVIN THE DRUMMER HARRISON..

[@patrickbeintema9184]

Colin is always happy, lol

[@sonjadietz5297]

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEn i a l .............................

[@evavera859]

Then super favorite

[@massimilianorock70sdigiampietr]

Tema attuale del momento...

[@patrickbeintema9184]

If you hear this song for the first time, you might think "what the fuck just happened?!"

[@mcb79]

Man, this should be the soundtrack of a fistfight for the faith of the universe.

[@stefets]

Awesome ! Hot like Rush !

[@fuzzylogiceire]

It's not on the proper release of an album, it's on some kind of a special/limited version of Deadwing I think.

[@bnbwhitezombie]

Sounds so much like something King Crimson should have done!

[@blankpage111]

This is from "Deadwing" DVD-A edition

[@Jonnyjy]

This song is brutal.something like mistery dramatic hatred!!

[@RobertHurleyJr]

agreed, he did say that in an interview with prog radio about fear of a blank planet. it sounds silly but to compare an act to something else (even something good) does take away its originality. Many athletes also feel this sentiment.

[@Bojoschannel]

Barbieri, Edwin and Wesley are the other 100%

[@jasman71]

Anyone else reckon the opening riff is in 16/8? Sounds like two bars of 5 and one of 6?

[@SuperPrimiano]

a dir poco geniale

[@adeebshakhawat]

3:35 Danny Carey is that you?