Mother Wants Daughter's Masculine Chromosomes Removed to Keep Her a Girl | Chicago Med | MD TV

Dr. Manning and Dr. Charles are faced with a tough decision concerning the gender of a 9-year-old girl.
From Chicago Med Season 03, Episode 16, "An Inconvenient Truth": After taking the lead on a surgery, Dr. Bekker feels the heat after something goes wrong; April and Dr. Reese rush to find the son of a dying patient; Goodwin's godson is admitted to the hospital.
Chicago Med (2015) The doctors and nurses who work at the emergency ward of the Gaffney Chicago Medical Center strive to save the lives of their patients while dealing with personal and interpersonal issues.
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[@katelynholmes9504]

Weird title. The mother wants the organs removed. You don’t remove the chromosomes when you remove the organs.

[@kylebroflovski8656]

I think it's just to censor the title so KZbin doesn't get mad

[@jynxlinks]

I was thinking the same thing, lol. There's no way to remove someone's chromosome, unless Crisper is hiding some crazy progress. Plus, we need chromosomes. What. 😂 it just made me laugh, lol.

[@bookbutterfly6613]

maybe they meant hormones??

[@Ann963]

Good way to get more clicks though…

[@melindainglesby1922]

​@@bookbutterfly6613can't remove hormones, either...

[@juliav.mcclelland2415]

Lol somebody fix this title! Nobody is talking about removing chromosomes. Which is impossible.

[@stephenolan5539]

It reminds me of an episode of The White Shadow. He meant hormones but said chromosomes.

[@lillypad5317]

Its probably so that KZbin doesn't hide the video.

[@tinkeramma]

That title being so odd is why I clicked over. I didn't remember that.

[@kiddfaith4397]

What wasn’t said in this clip is that, without any reproductive organs to produce testosterone or estrogen, the kid’s growth and development would be stunted; especially once they entered puberty. For example, the kid’s height, weight, bone growth, muscle mass and even their red blood cell count would be affected. The poor kid would be forced to take crucial hormone supplements for the rest of their life, whether they chose to be a boy or a girl.

[@rekkariley652]

@@kiddfaith4397 And what does this woman plan to tell her child if they grow up believing they’re 100% female and find out while they’re trying to have a family of their own that their mother lied to them? That their mother knew they would never have that option and may have even deliberately prevented it in her obsession to have a perfect daughter? This kid would be far better served by being treated with puberty blockers until they’re old enough to decide for themselves how they want to address their condition. Honestly, given what the child said about only doing ballet because her mother was obsessed with it, it sounds like her mother just wants a daughter she can live vicariously through and isn’t willing to accept and love the child she actually has.

[@kiddfaith4397]

@@rekkariley652 Valid points!

[@herenaakuma85]

​@@rekkariley652 Puberty blockers would only make it worse by preventing "her" body from developing. Long term use of PBs makes it impossible for a body to develope properly and often castrates patient. Not to mention that they couse bone and joint issues, neurological problems and many other that were already discussed by doctors when PBs were used only on early puberty patients and their use was being questioned. Doctors should do whats best for kids accual anatomy (testosterone maybe - so kid has a chance to have somewhat properly developed body) and offer mental treatement to teach kid to deal with his odd situation.

[@rekkariley652]

@@herenaakuma85 Citation needed. Puberty blockers were used long-term for ages to treat cisgender children with precocious puberty, but they suddenly become an issue when used for trans kids? Bullshit.

[@kathleendavidson3316]

@lydia-r6ido you realize that geneticists and other biologists are well aware that there are more than two sexes just as sociologists know that there’s more than two genders. You think that you’re backing up science but science disagrees. Plus blocking puberty is blocking puberty. Your body doesn’t sit there and think, “Okay, this child started puberty too young so I’ll work for her but this youth wants to stave off puberty for a few years so I’m going to mess them up.” The end result is blocking puberty and the meds don’t care at all why it’s being done.

[@RegularInvader]

At least the child was diagnosed immediately compared to an older patient from the episode of "House."

[@sumaiyatazreen757]

the model right?

[@RegularInvader]

Yes, but she also unfortunately dealt with a bad father who "adored" her beauty in a sick manner.😔

[@andiehernandez1995]

Differences in sex development (DSD) can be different from each other. Intersex variations are diverse and not all are easy to identify. To my understanding, most actually aren't.

[@sharlalee6765]

The mother is trying to manipulate their child so she can get what they want being that they stay as a girl. Hearing the mother talk over the doctors while they are trying to explain the process is frustrating but in the end it's nice to see that she changed her mind for her child's sake Edit: Had to change the it seems part of this since it's pretty clear of what the mother is doing

[@charlottedrew9714]

Wdym it seems, it’s blatantly obvious

[@sharlalee6765]

@@charlottedrew9714 yeah I know it's obvious. Honestly, it sounded good in my head until you pointed that out

[@kalitheamare]

Well, she's the mother. The parent. It's her child. I was good friends with a girl who had the same condition. Sadly, she never underwent surgery to have them removed and ended up with such struggles that she took her own life at 32, I miss her dearly 😢. Not an easy situation

[@YourRandomBAD]

@@kalitheamare It's unfortunate that circumstance occurs on both sides of treatment unfortunately. There are intersex people who struggle with feeling violated from having their autonomy and personal decisions taken away from them by doctors or parents. Very sad situation. No matter what there will be patients who grow up to struggle with their choices or lack thereof during their youth. Therapy is super important for children imo and we don't have nearly enough pediatric therapists to match our needs.

[@kalitheamare]

​@@YourRandomBAD I fully agree with you, Regardless of the choice made, it's a case to case type of situation, what applies to one will not necessarily apply to another, a very tough, hazardous, painful situation indeed. I do remember vividly we were strictly forbidden to ever bring up the subject to anyone, anywhere, anytime. Zero therapy, 100% sense of guilt, confusion and shame.

[@ursaltydog]

That mother is the one manipulating... not the doctors. She wants a little girl who follows in her footsteps..

[@narliehs1648]

Thankfully the doctors managed to convince her to allow them to stay in. Was fully thinking this would go the other way to satisfy the mother's need for traditional gender roles and (re)living through her child.

[@erinhuggins1779]

I'm glad her mother decided not to take them out and let it be Emma's choice down the line. Because what the mother and most parents don't consider when they rush to "take out" the thing that's makes someone intersexed is that you are essentially sterilizing the child before they hit puberty. So there's no hormones at all and that alone is detrimental. Depending on if they identify as either sex they'll need hormone replacement therapy for the rest of their lives. And will never be able to have their own children later.

[@kjlat]

As either gender not sex pretty important distinction in this case

[@piinkam0r]

It really is sad and I think it’s more common just not known

[@Bladen1000]

@@kjlatthere the same thing feller

[@YourRandomBAD]

@@Bladen1000 Not according to scientists!

[@ImSarahNow22]

@@Bladen1000 nope, different things entirely

[@funkyfunkobunko]

Love that last chunk of wisdom- “that’s the exciting part, having our kids show us who they are in their own time.” As a parent there’s always gonna be a plan for who we’d like our kids to become, but that’s the beauty of creating another human with endless possibilities for their future. ❤

[@UmisTsukishiro00]

Any true parent loves you for who you were yesterday, who you are today, and who you will be tomorrow.

[@woutmoerman711]

Beautifully said! ❤

[@narliehs1648]

Exactly so. I'm raising my own daughter (thus far, as she's never expressed any interest in being a boy though she knows that we can talk about anything no matter what) this way. My own mother did not so I know the alternative outcome.

[@aumelb]

What an absurd title. You can't remove Y chromosome from every single cell of a body.

[@Lily-p3e3y]

I'm pretty sure it's just so KZbin doesn't demonetize them

[@LyingTube]

By the title alone ("Mother Wants Daughter's Masculine Chromosomes Removed" at time of writing) I'm curious what the heck this mother thinks medical science is capable of...

[@stephenking5852]

It’s like she’s talking to Dr. Curt Connors (Lizard) or Dr. Kirk Langstrom (Man-Bat).

[@dietotaku]

the people who wrote the title almost certainly meant "characteristics," nobody in the clip talks about removing chromosomes nor is that physically possible

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

@@dietotaku Maybe she said it in full episode. But yea - it's not possible.

[@Sniperboy5551]

You can remove the undescended testicles, not the chromosomes. Clickbait title.

[@viv1010]

Chop chop where’s the update

[@KeniQilin]

I believe the child has some form of androgen insensitivity syndrome, which is an intersex condition. This scenario kinda reminds me of a similar situation in House MD where a teen model was found to have this kind of condition.

[@GCLU]

As noted by the doctor, it would be a form of intersex condition. Slightly different than the House one

[@Sniperboy5551]

This would be different compared to this House case. In the teen supermodel case, her body was entirely insensitive to testosterone although she was genetically male. I think she ended up having testicular cancer, right?

[@CybertronusPrime-ro9ve]

Yes. ​@@Sniperboy5551

[@piinkam0r]

Yea I remember watching some documentary about a real case. The child was raised as a boy and something happened showing that the little boy had two ovaries inside that never fully formed. It was so sad honestly because it made me think what if other people really do have this more than they realize. But I can’t remember what happened with the child but I think the parents let them choose what they wanted to be

[@elietanganho4988]

It doesn’t seem to be testosterone insensitivity issue. The problem seems to be about producing testosterone, not ‘reacting’ to it

[@mrroboshadow]

Mother: *talks over the doctors so she can confuse her daughter into making the choice she wants* also mother when the doctors explain the part she doesnt like: YOU'RE CONFUSING HER!!!

[@Bladen1000]

Intersex and being transgender are two different things they’re not the same

[@rekkariley652]

There’s a lot of overlap between both categories.

[@Rat_Queen86]

@@rekkariley652one is a genetic issue, the other isn’t

[@rekkariley652]

@@Rat_Queen86 And many intersex people do not identify as the gender they were assigned at birth, making them also transgender.

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

​@@rekkariley652no there isn't.

[@renownedbandanawearer1345]

Cool. The individual’s right to self-determination is important for both intersex and transgender people.

[@SavannahSteel]

It’s always the person who it’s affecting’s decision. Always. They will have to live with it for the rest of their life. Their mother? The next ten years.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Im pretty sure the mother gets affected for the rest of her life too. With dealing with potential consequences of making such a decision and being involved with her child even she's an adult.

[@danakchampion]

Yeah the mother only has to live with it until the child goes NC 👻 the child lives with the consequences their whole life. This is why it's no good when people placate themselves/their peers by claiming it's just a generational rebellion "trend" or mobile phone brain rot that makes grown children do this. It makes parents not take the inevitable consequences of their actions seriously while there's still time to choose a different course in the relationship they build with their child.

[@findingbeautyinthepain8965]

After all that, the child STILL didn’t get to choose. No one ever explained anything to her or gave her the options. The show acted like it was a win to do what the doctor thought was best. It wasn’t. Maybe Emma would have wanted them removed. Maybe she will end up with severe dysphoria when she hits puberty. This is not what medical autonomy looks like! This poor girl still has no idea what is going on with her body, why she is getting surgery, and a permanent choice was still made for her. 💔😭

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

@@findingbeautyinthepain8965 Considering she was literally on deaths door at this point, there was no time to explain things to her in detail. They were racing against the clock.

[@victorhinojos3050]

Therein lies the problem, these decisions need to be made early in life and conservatives see this as "children being groomed to transitioning", since they are children and incapable of make such decisions even if it will affect them for the rest of their lives.

[@edwinjusto5739]

Pretty sure removing chromosomes is literally an impossibility 😂

[@edwinjusto5739]

This entire thing feels unrealistic af like one of those 1 in multiple millions chances that would hardly ever occur

[@eeveeongirl]

It is impossible to remove chromosomes (individuals can be born missing some or having extra though). And while cases like what is shown (the sex of the body not presenting as the chromosomes would suggest) are rare, they are not entirely unheard of. Some people go until adulthood until they find out that they are genetically the opposite sex. It is more common for genetically male individuals to present as female as well since both genders develop the same way and it is they Y chromosome that signals for the body to develop male organs during fetal development.

[@patrickbrown1179]

Read a story called the "X-Virus" by Lisa James sometime. Another story that was similar to that was one called "The Virus" by Jackie_em. I know they are both FICTIONAL stories, but there was an article on SEX-CHANGED MICE from nearly a decade ago and it reminded me of those 2 stories. So maybe not in this day-and-age...but somewhere in the near future, it could be possible.

[@mlatham23]

We got click baited.

[@twist_ending7545]

​@@edwinjusto5739what? Have you never heard of intersex people?

[@pokepersie]

this is what my mom used to do to me as a kid. it caused me so much harm in the future

[@adolphaselrah9506]

I’m sorry. What happened?

[@DivineChaos204]

That's terrible...

[@JesusLovesEVERYTHING]

People who do this to children need Jesus... I feel for all the children going through gender changing procedures, a lot of them are gonna be messed when they grow up

[@narliehs1648]

​@@JesusLovesEVERYTHING🤦 Do you not understand that gender-affirming care is recommended by every reputable medical authority for a reason?

[@esmerayofficialyt]

@@JesusLovesEVERYTHING people who hate another brother or sister, who they have seen, cannot love god, who they have not seen how about you accept a child for who they are?

[@sakurafalls2468]

It's important for intersex children to know what's going on in their body. _Nobody_ should change anything until they're of legal age and are capable of making these decisions for themselves. It's their right. I wish parents, teachers and other guardians and caregivers would just leave children alone and stop messing up their heads by talking about things they don't need to worry about. That goes for all children...

[@undeadladybug7723]

This woman didn’t want a child, she wanted a puppet she could control.

[@angelaoliver7776]

It's the mother who will have issues living with this not the child. Projection of who she wants her to be.

[@user_angelmum]

Give the mother a break she just found out her daughter is intersex she's not had time to process..imagine raising a daughter only to find out she is intersex and you have 4 hours to decided on the best action . Put yourself in the shoes of the mother .. just for a minute

[@narliehs1648]

​​@@user_angelmumThe problem is, she wanted to (re)live through her child. Note how Emma says that they don't want to do ballet, but the mother insists because she used to do it. She saw Emma as an extension of herself, not as a person. It was only at the end of the clip that she began to understand.

[@Questor-ky2fv]

It's not a common condition, but people are occasionally born with mixed gender parts. Since it's their body and their life, they are the ones who should decide which of their genders they most feel like.

[@victorhinojos3050]

The problem is that decisions need to be made early in life and where most of the controversy comes from between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives accuse liberals of coaxing children into transitioning or as they call it "grooming them".

[@beverlyarcher546]

Very few transgenders aren't born with both at all their either an x or y

[@esmerayofficialyt]

@@beverlyarcher546 **LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER** fun fact! you call transgender people as "transgenders" as if theyre not also human beings, but- OMG! they are! did you know that? oh, and wrong use of the word "their" its theyre*

[@miscalotastuff733]

Intersex does not mean trans. It means they have both parts. Let the kids decide.

[@emiliethomas3368]

Bestie….you do not remove chromosomes…….

[@terribolan2010]

I wondered how they were gonna remove chromosomes.

[@emiliethomas3368]

@@terribolan2010​​⁠if they could do that, the scientific community would have an excitement explosion

[@victorhinojos3050]

The probably very bored intern butchered the title or the AI comprehension is not quite there yet.

[@Boxofcare666]

You have an interesting best friend…

[@Rat_Queen86]

Also…..she’s 9 years old. So…..maybe wait until she older and can make that decision.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

With that medical condition? They literally didnt have time

[@norvafons]

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl the existence of testicles wasn't dangerous it's just her mother trying to cope and wanting to mutilate her child

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

@@norvafons Did you miss the part where if something wasn't done about them, the child would die?

[@twist_ending7545]

​@@TimberlakeTigerGirl okay but the torsion could be solved without removing them. That's what they're referring to.

[@Sniperboy5551]

This particular clip is actually quite relevant given the current controversy over the Olympic female boxers.

[@grose2272]

Yes but the difference is their actally men competing in female sport! And it's wrong!

[@YourRandomBAD]

@@grose2272 Except the part where both those boxers are female and 1 in particular comes from a country where it would have been impossible to get sex identifiers changed. At worst they have a female intersex condition, oh no! Russia picking and choosing what women get to compete and the radical right trying to find trans in everything they look at is the only reason this is a controversy at all. It's straight up delusion.

[@ArgentuTA164-2]

@@grose2272The *Algerian* boxer had high testosterone, she wasn't a man.

[@forgetfuldullahan5468]

​@grose2272 man, you really belive what compulsive liars tell you? Weird.

[@r_e046]

@@grose2272 She's not a man though.

[@anotherviewer1954]

The poor child was gaslit.

[@findingbeautyinthepain8965]

She was gaslit by both sides, in the end. In the end, the choice was made for her. She sill had no say in what happened to her own body. She didn’t even know why she was getting surgery. So heartbreaking.

[@slightlydistressedslug6627]

No, the decision to WAIT is NOT “making the choice for her.” Not removing them now does not mean they won’t be able to remove them later, and even give her puberty blockers so she will have more time to decide.

[@katrenacanaday4992]

This is why the child should be left alone about the things they want to be until they're of an age they can make a properly Informed decision. They're not parents personal baby doll to be treated as whatever gender they wished. This is what messes kids up.

[@anodosarcade7355]

Except they need to make a decision now

[@ThatWeirdo04]

@@anodosarcade7355 No they don't. The testicles don't need to be removed to resolve the testicular torsion.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

​@@ThatWeirdo04You got any better suggestions because they were literally running out of time?

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Or people can stop messing with kids heads and let them have an untainted childhood. Parents should be allowed to decide their child's medical care, at least until they are 13 when kids are old enough to actually understand. Kids should be informed, but until they reach a certain age the parents should have the final say

[@katrenacanaday4992]

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl I dont entirely agree, because at the end of the day, some of the people trying to push the same stuff ARE the parents. This tends to be especially true if they were the kinds that believe YOU owe THEM for being born

[@alicepiper7455]

Oh thank goodness, Mom came around.

[@zukostryder]

4:42 bro they are literallllly explaining it 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@DafSpi]

That mum infuriates me. Accusing the doctors of manipulating her child while she is the one manipulating her.

[@PastyPineapple]

The morher - "i wont let you manipulate her" bc I'm the only one who can do that 😅

[@auxiliasequeira8648]

It's always overwhelming for parents

[@jpbaley2016]

Parents need to get over it. It’s all about the child and none of the parents biases or bigotry should be a factors in the decisions.

[@slightlydistressedslug6627]

I know this is just a fictional tv show clip, but I am SO relieved the mother changed her mind.

[@Ryliasnow]

Parent gaslighting their child. 😢

[@alibyebaby2064]

At the end of the day it isn’t the doctors’ decision to decided how to treat this child gender-wise.

[@marvolom787]

That kid is going to hate her mother in few years

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Not if they go to family counciling after the surgery and come to terms with this massive revelation.

[@louiscyphre2267]

Hate her for letting her make a choice later in life?

[@EmiliusReturns]

Weird title. I don’t think it’s possible to remove chromosomes. Maybe “organs” is the word they’re looking for? There was a House episode like this, the girl had androgen insensitivity syndrome so she had male chromosomes but her body couldn’t process male hormones so her body developed female. And I think she had testicular cancer.

[@Splat654]

Props on owner of the channel on uploading this clip, a lot of people are uneducated and make assumptions before even looking into the subject. Like how people harrased boxers these past 2 weeks.

[@rachaelford5525]

Wow the title lol that impossible

[@parriah8083]

Wooow this was so well done. The depiction of a resistant parent and the child unable to understand the ramifications was so believable and true to life. I felt bad for all of them not having time to process and educate

[@alissonvonderlane862]

Lol no one would see a oeterus where she's looking for it!😂

[@user-oq8dj6do8v]

TV doctors care about consent. Real doctors would not.

[@gem_b7798]

Sadly they don't care about assent either. That's why it's legal for parents to force their kids to get cosmetic surgery against their will.

[@margaretanne1517]

As a medical professional the dr absolutely cares what the girl and the mother feels. Above all else. If a child says no it’s no. If the parent has concerns it’s discussed. Tv drs are NOT a good example of anything except entertainment. Cynical like you are what cause bs situations in the first place. But then again I don’t work in America so it may be different there.

[@quinnnewman9538]

It should always be the persons final choice for what gender a person identifies as and dounle so for intergender individuals

[@EmmaVokey-s6c]

Finally one with my name 😂😂

[@dragonsguardianofcrystalhearts]

I was talking to my mom one day about my son. I was taking about how much of a boys boy he is. She says it's much easier when they're all boy. It never made sense but after seeing this..i have lots of questions.

[@ZhadTheRad]

"I will not let you manipulate her" How ironic then that she persuaded the child into saying what she wanted the girl to say, or in other words, manipulated. The doctors were just trying to explain the situation so as to make the child understand to the best of their abilities while the mother kept interrupting and trying to talk the child into giving assent that was in line with the mother's thoughts on the matter. Also, a lesson here is: DON'T INTERRUPT DOCTORS EXPLAINING THINGS, LET THEM FINISH UNTIL YOU SPEAK Oh, and at least the mother took it back and would let decision regarding removal or not be left to the child til AFTER the medical emergency was taken care of since they're not causing any other problems at present beside the torsion

[@marlenemacdonald]

I believe the child should be told. She is old enough even if its pictures. She is old enough

[@Wednesdaywoe1975]

She wants a pretty princess, not a child.

[@jawanalalawi3154]

Love these vids!!! Keep up the good work, this has educated me soooo much!! love ya 🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@Lex-ds2pi]

The title. Is it even possible to remove someone's chromosomes?

[@neshachristian-hendrickson5598]

I glad this is being highlighted

[@1dgram]

She wants the doctors to give her Turner syndrome? I don't think that's medically possible anytime soon, and it certainly would go against medical ethics

[@KitTeaKat7]

This is when puberty blockers would be a good option. Give the kiddo some time to make the decision 💖

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Unfortunately they didn't have time as the condition was literally killing the child. They had to make a decision asap.

[@Hi-jw7oq]

Puberty blockers can negatively effect people especially children

[@kornkorn4202]

Howdy. Not sure where the 'harming children' thing comes from but everything I've read suggests that the main thing to worry about is bone density. If you don't have any estrogen at all (men have a little too!) or it's all blocked, your bones won't be as dense. It's usually only a problem if they're on it for over 3 years, but might occur in trans children if, due to legislation, they aren't allowed gender affirming care and to go through their chosen puberty until it becomes a risk.

[@leighdison]

So it never said anything about the rest of the organs. Are those female or male? Unless the kid didn’t develop either, mom should’ve had to know already. Besides, without one or the other, how does the kid urinate??

[@marianajosemolinaescribano6591]

hi! I am here to inform about intersex people ( im not an expert on the Matter so anyone is free to correct me) In 2:48 It said that her external organ is female so there was no ways of finding out that she was intersex (besides that if the external organs had been male im pretty sure she would have lived as a male you know what I mean?) and as they said until puberty they couldnt have known. Now, I searched about the urente part and It said that an intersex persone Will urinete throught wichever organ the ureter ends at. , since every single case is different. Hope It helps

[@souxcasa]

Did they just give a child morphine? For pain that didn't have her crippled? What the heck? I hope that didn't come from a doctor consultant

[@joseberger7737]

i think the title is because youtube would like organs

[@giuliapicchiotti]

This should've been a decision the daughter makes for herself when she's older .....

[@animallover6645]

That is so sad, I rather by a girl than a boy, lucky this did not happen to me, though I do have PCOS.

[@lestranged]

you can't remove chromosomes, they are in every cell of the body.

[@brookeferguson5301]

I was sick and sickening to my stomach to deliver the twins to delivered to my risk for risky to have healed and not just my pain for this position I had made a monthly paycheck for my pregnancy test results paperwork needs to work on it

[@zacharytaylor190]

There is an actual case of 17β-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase III deficiency that concerns a similar situation. Not exact, but an Australian child known as "Carla." In that case, the hospital was actually taking the opposite stance. The child, 5, was showing male gonadal development. As such, the hospital under the consent of the guardian was subject to labioplasty and other invasive surgeries to enhance the child's female primary sex characteristics. Of course, this lead to the sterilization of the child. This has been widely decried as needlessly invasive and in some cases compared to torture by human rights groups, and legal analysts.

[@LangwidereLMFT]

With androgen insensitivity, the body converts the testosterone into estrogen so she'll be fine.

[@JadeScarlett]

It's unbelievable how all these medical shows have at least one rogue doctor that does what they please without any regard for ethics, rules, and protocols. And the worst part? They never get fired. I would sue that doctor from here to eternity until she lost her license and her ability to practice anywhere if she did this to my child. She had absolutely no right to make that decision even against the ethics committee. Heck, even the shrink who was also fond of breaking rules on occasion was being level-headed in this episode.

[@YourRandomBAD]

Literally watched the whole thing again and there is not a single part where either Manning or the consult makes a decision for anyone, in fact, the only decisions made were made by the mother. Wanna talk about lawsuits? I'm personally a fan of expanding accessibility for children under 35 to sue their parents for coercion and manipulation that forced them into life-altering decisions that cause both physical and mental damage. You literally watched the mother prevent her daughter from having the chance to be informed, interrupts that she's "confused" when she never gave any indication that she was actually confused like a kid would, lied to her directly about the nature of the operation and its necessity and acquired her consent through those unlawful means. That is coercion. And Dr Charles is right that it is hard to prove, but you literally just watched it on camera and are defending it anyways. If a court saw what you just saw on video, that parent would be found guilty in a heartbeat. What rules?? 😆😆 Do you just not like that the new rules don't allow you to manipulate your kids?

[@jasonbullock2816]

That rear but no unheated of

[@jennifertselentis4755]

This is what IAF wanted Caster Seymene to do to qualify for women's events.

[@user-tp5mt5sy7q]

I love the girl who put the thing on the girls belly❤

[@user-tp5mt5sy7q]

So yeah

[@brookeferguson5301]

I was in the hospital for pregnancy test results from a doctor choi doctor manning is always protecting me from surgery or treatment for severe swelling and anxiety disorder

[@OriginalLiLBraT]

Those testicles would’ve been the last chance that her child ever had of having children of her own… it may not be ideal that she would be a father… but it is legitimately the last chance that she would ever have of having her own genetic children… and her mom wants to take that away because she wanted to have a little girl😡 because SHE wanted to have a girl… parents are so selfish

[@UndyingShadow83]

CRISPR is a helluva thing, but I'm not sure its advanced enough to give someone Turner syndrome...not sure why you'd want to do that anyway.

[@realhawaii5o]

That's a werid title 😅

[@elietanganho4988]

Does someone know if there is a medical condition that works like that ? I find this scenario weird : if the mutation made it for her not be able to synthesise testosterone, how would it synthesise during puberty ?

[@mossripalextechno6450]

Perhaps it means less testosterone throughout their life. So Emma appears female, but later on, there will be just enough testosterone for that to change during puberty?

[@patmaurer8541]

I saw a documentary on PBS about a whole community where many people spontaneously, physically change gender at puberty. Science was over my head but, since it's not extraordinary for the people in this village, everyone just goes with it. 🥰

[@reginabahten4228]

Cleveland clinic has a nice little article, google "androgen insensitivity." TV shows want to raise ratings and sell advertising, so show the most hysterical version of any medical event.

[@gem_b7798]

It would synthetize the same way all hormones do, by being released by the brain. In this case, it would release a higher amount of testosterone than an endosex girl has on average when they hit puberty.

[@minimaladjacent]

​@@patmaurer8541back in the day on TV saw Guinness world records TV show had a family of all girl kids about 10 of them but at puberty were found to be all boys...maybe the same village?

[@martid03]

I'd have to go to a different hospital

[@raewren]

Those that have this are easily treated when followed by a good endocrinologist. Many still identify as female.

[@unionunicorn6776]

Intersex conditions are much more common than any of us know. It’s something like 1% of people have an intersex condition. That’s the same amount of people who have red hair. The way the mom reacted was heartbreaking. Poor Emma wouldn’t have been able to choose to have her own biological kids in the future if her mom had decided to cut her reproductive organs out. 💔 I’m glad the mom had a last minute change of heart. ❤️

[@jazzycat8917]

Parents like this are insufferable. They don't treat their children like complex human beings; they just want them to be perfect little dolls they have manipulate and shape how they want, and when something happens that "ruins" this fantasy they do whatever they can to fix their vision of control, instead of doing whats medically and psychologically best for the kid.

[@Hi-jw7oq]

She had a change of heart at the end. Give some grace

[@Beabuzz123]

0:18 AYYYYYY FELLOW ORCH DORK lol

[@oliviaroselauren]

this is why gender affirming care is so important!

[@artisthusnatalal3099]

*This is what's going on in Bollywood and Hollywood!*

[@costricanbeuti]

child autonomy is good and bad. I don't get it fully. but if a child had the choice, they would want to eat ice cream for all meals and stay up at night. if they are comfortable with that, how can they be comfortable making a decision on something they know nothing about. there concern is it not hurting. while at the same time if you leave it up to the child they could hold resentment you down the road or the parent can look at that like they made there choices knowing good and well they had NO clue what they are choosing.

[@dannyfenton9529]

The child could also hold resentment for having the choice taken away from them. So long as there’s no risk to the child they should stay as they were born unless there is medical reasoning to do otherwise.

[@cocoace7587]

This can't be a true scenario , of a 9yr old giving consent . Yet grown women can't have consent over our bodies , but a baby can ?? 🥹🤬 # vote 💙💙 # vote for DEMOCRACY/ freedom/ civility

[@vjmcdonn]

This!!!

[@brookeferguson5301]

if I was pregnant with ethan I was a mess and I just got scared to deliver the twins is a very long short story long long long story short

[@mesbalkema9996]

I didn't know until I was 20 and had birthed two children (but miscarried many) that I have XXY chromosomes, and that's the main cause of why I miscarry so much. I came out as non-binary to my friends at 14 and my family/society at 19. If I was born with differently matched reproductive organs and my parents made the decision of who/what I'd be for me, I'm not sure if I'd be able to forgive them.

[@amandajanete]

I thought XXY meant sterility? My son was diagnosed five years ago.

[@kevinwaag9976]

so the kid is intersex right ? they didn't run her dnd to check just said probably ...

[@meme7591]

So my question was what did they do take out or testicles will that affect her hormones for life like what is she going to have to do. How is this going to affect your mentally and physically I can understand where the mother's coming from. And I don't agree with children having a sex change but this child I would definitely move states if the testicular surgery was reversed in the child became a boy because of that because you don't want this child to be judged and worried about everybody

[@Beabuzz123]

Honestly though it doesn’t matter if they take them out or not, she’d still likely feel like a girl or boy anyway and she can just take hormones if she feels masc later on

[@alexamosca9371]

I get where the mom is coming from. I mean honk of how traumatic that is for the daughter to go through when going her whole life believing she was a girl.

[@--julian_]

this part of why puberty blockers exist

[@gem_b7798]

True, and puberty blockers were used to prevent early puberty in cis, endosex children, although I wasn't allowed to take them because my parents just assumed I was "groomed by the transgenders", so I was forced to go through premature puberty.

[@64chrom]

Not applicable in this, time sensitive case.

[@melaniekendall4903]

How come this woman doesn't know what happens in puberty? Bit weird

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Maybe rewatch the video. She thought she had a biological daughter with all that comes with. But she wasn't aware her child was intersex and thus didn't know exactly what that would mean come puberty.

[@lialiathelock]

Emma is actually Emmet

[@esmerayofficialyt]

ok and

[@brookeferguson5301]

I was pregnant with ethan for a awhile now when I got up in pain for a bit more likely an hour ago long long story short

[@kallinskai1427]

Yall I don't know on why they won't just call this a simple form of what is known as of intersex 🫠

[@AngelOfsSorrow]

Probably bc it’s different forms of being intersex

[@LyingTube]

At least at the moment more people understand genetic conditions and gender identity than do intersex life, it's probable it was just not mentioned for ease of comprehension. The issue here wasn't so much that the child was intersex so much as the mother was trying to control her child's identity.

[@grose2272]

​@LyingTube😂😂😂she's a child who couldn't make that kind of decision..

[@kallinskai1427]

@@grose2272 I mean that is true she is only nine but her body was also totally normal and the mother in the beginning was trying to make sure that she didn't have her normal body which is sad :/

[@renownedbandanawearer1345]

In medical terminology I think intersex conditions are still called disorders of sex development (DSDs). Society is unfortunately still a long way off from recognising intersex people as just intersex rather than males or females with birth defects.

[@haneesha123]

What nonsense! Bad mother! She’s thinking about how it will affect her life in society and how she will answer questions instead of looking out for the child’s best interest. It’s a lifetime of torture with hormone replacement for the rest of the child’s life. I’m pretty sure such things happen in real life too. Same with transgender children. In some cases parents are the culprits for pushing agendas/ideologies on children or validating their confused feelings. And sometimes the health care is at fault for keeping the parents out of loop and going through with life altering procedures on minors. Two sides but both times the child suffers.

[@Resident_Insomniac_2295]

What tf is the title on???

[@doctorposting]

chromosomes???😂😂😂

[@shinyhunteralana2297]

What happens to the girl

[@purrfectwaffle8621]

This is one of the reasons why I hate a lot of modern show writing like this. One of the actual few cases of biological intersex being dealt with in a child and the mother is simply written to not want to hear any of it, making her antagonistic in a situation that only asks to speak and be heard.

[@RobertDeLuca-b8t]

How common is this

[@Lilithotw]

about 1/100k for comete AIS, or 1/20k for PAIS

[@giraffezebra2698]

Because you can totally remove chromosomes…

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

That's not what they were talking about

[@giraffezebra2698]

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl I was reading straight from the title “mother wants daughter’s masculine chromosomes removed”

[@zukostryder]

3:23 so like a hermaphrodite kind of

[@TerraUmbraVampWriter]

Intersex

[@zukostryder]

@@TerraUmbraVampWriter ahhhhh okay I didn't know thank you 🥰

[@TerraUmbraVampWriter]

@@zukostryder your welcome. 🤗

[@zukostryder]

@@TerraUmbraVampWriter you're* I grew up in a "Christian" cult so I'm still learning and um learning a lot

[@user-bx8js9kq2b]

worst acting ever