New 2025 Ducati Panigale V2 S & Streetfighter Announced: Everything You Need To Know @ EICMA 2024

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@Gary-r1o
@Gary-r1o 2 ай бұрын
I'm impressed that the FINALLY added a fuel gauge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! about time! That alone is reason to upgrade!
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
LMAO, how hard is it to know your motorcycle's fuel range ? Have you never heard about the reliability issues of Ducati's fuel level sending units ? With them it's safer to count the Km or Miles with your trip meters than rely on the sending unit's reading.
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
That's a stupid reason to "upgrade." I rode for 10 years before I had a bike with a fuel gauge. You know when the first time was that I ran out of fuel? On that bike, when the fuel gauge got stuck and I believed it.
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
@@GIGABACHI My Multi fuel gauge stops working a few times a year, then it starts working again later. I stopped giving a shit about it a couple years ago. It got replaced once under warranty.
@Gary-r1o
@Gary-r1o Ай бұрын
@@aluisious I Didn't say it was a reason to "upgrade" just that it's about time for the amount of money you pay for this bike
@tapemonkey2378
@tapemonkey2378 2 ай бұрын
120hp, good torque, light weight, quality suspension, brilliant brakes, that name and paint it red, sound like an absolutely perfect bike.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
It sure ain't perfect but it does make for a very good street legal race replica.
@Toxicdemon2
@Toxicdemon2 2 ай бұрын
It looks cleaner than the V4
@RavenValkyrie
@RavenValkyrie 2 ай бұрын
No Desmo Valves is huge for those worried about the reliability.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
DESMO Reliability (on late models) is not the thing to be worried about. Labor and Parts Cost it's the main issue BUT it's my creed that if you're planning on owning an Italian motorcycle that you should know already by default what you're getting yourself into. In my case, I perform ALL my maintenance and not having to deal with DESMO and/or timing belts is a plus *(Yes, thankfully this engine has timing chains too)*. I hope this engine has side sliding finger followers and the adjusting shims resting inside the spring retainer and directly over the valve's stem. That would mean not even having to remove the camshafts for adjustment and having to time everything back during assembly. I have said it before. They shouldn't abandon the DESMO valvetrain completely, as DESMO it's part of their identity. Instead, use only coil springs on your "regular" street motorcycles and save the DESMO for your very high end street and race motorcycles.
@RichDunn
@RichDunn 2 ай бұрын
The Multistrada V4's are reliable, with 36k valve services.
@Gary-r1o
@Gary-r1o Ай бұрын
Has nothing to do about reliability but more to do with cost of desmo service for valve clearance check and service intervals
@RichDunn
@RichDunn Ай бұрын
@@Gary-r1o That was my point, the V4 with springs is just as reliable as the Desmo, but service costs are way cheaper (I've owned both V4 types). I must say the Desmo engines have more character and feel though, the springs are more clinical. I'd buy the 2025 SFV4S if it wasn't for the Desmo service every 15k.
@sarahgoldfarb913
@sarahgoldfarb913 Ай бұрын
Ducatis always look like they were designed by the marketing department...I trust Japanese bikes with my life.
@NicholasLeins
@NicholasLeins 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Ducati for raising the price of my 21 V2 Panigale.
@jamessmurf2929
@jamessmurf2929 2 ай бұрын
not sure about that tho. my scene was always been if you are going to spend so much for the v2 why not just get the v4 if the price raises further it would just push people towards the v4 even more
@adod.6105
@adod.6105 Ай бұрын
Dream on 😅
@gmc3578
@gmc3578 2 ай бұрын
great, my Street Triple will be able to keep up with one of these now!
@Syazwan9
@Syazwan9 2 ай бұрын
765 rs
@dashuntas.m4045
@dashuntas.m4045 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, you can get a ‘cheaper’ bike that are way less expensive to maintain for a similar price to this version. It all depends on if you’re willing to pay more for the Ducati brand
@jhonnydumeny9816
@jhonnydumeny9816 2 ай бұрын
The V2 looks amazing.
@lazypanda88
@lazypanda88 2 ай бұрын
the only thing i love about the new bikes is the addition of a fuel gauge haha. Wish I had one on my SFv2, other than that... still happy with my current model and not dying to run out and upgrade.
@Fonzie2612
@Fonzie2612 Ай бұрын
why you need a fuel gauge. I just reset the trip meter. I prefer the previous SF V2 a lot above the new one anyway. :)
@VicRider713
@VicRider713 2 ай бұрын
1. It’s better looking than the 23 V2 Sf, it’s well balanced. The 23 V2 had something missing. They took the fairing off the 2013 panigale and chuck a bunch of plastics bits to make it look 👀 ok. sfv4 has balanced looks. This one is ground up meant to be a street fighter. 2. 120 hp with 177kg will give you a similar power to weight ratio as the previous gen, in fact it will handle better with the lighter wheels. 3. Better dash - hands down and tech. 4. Cruise control (wohoo) 5. You can fit 180 or a 190 at the rear as your like. ( not sure if the previous gen let you do that) 6. Longer service intervals 7. Exhaust on this looks much much better than the previous gen 8. Better brakes
@Jean_pneus
@Jean_pneus 2 ай бұрын
🤛 one of the few that understands this is a major UPGRADE!! Lighter, better to handle, better frame, MORE USABLE POWER...🎉 love this bike!
@James-sp5ge
@James-sp5ge 2 ай бұрын
New engine = new problems….power to weight ratio blah blah. All you need to do is change the exhaust on the old V2 that will shed 10 kilo and add 10hp and 10nm with a map The old version is plenty light enough….and in storm green looks amazing. That color is now finished and wasn’t around for long. Could definitely hold its value well along with the other 955 V2 streetfighers & panigale V2. The engines in those bikes are fantastic. It’s only been discontinued due to new regulations that’s destroying the car & bike industries. The new V2 is just lipstick on a pig
@stianhenriksen-zk9cd
@stianhenriksen-zk9cd 2 ай бұрын
I do love that its going to be available as a a2 version as well
@itsmeericb
@itsmeericb 12 күн бұрын
This bike kind of reminds me of a faster version of the RS660. Those handlebars are quite similar and I am curious if woodcraft or anyone else come out with some clip-ons.
@itsmeericb
@itsmeericb 10 күн бұрын
Yup I was thinking the same thing. I had an RS660 and did the Woodcraft clip on upgrade. I’m sure they will make them for this bike as well.
@zewmxsr
@zewmxsr 2 ай бұрын
Omg they added a fuel gauge
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 ай бұрын
😂😂👍
@adr2567
@adr2567 2 ай бұрын
So the new V2 is basically a direct competitor to the R9 consider the same power figures. It'll likely cost 2x but still be nice to get a comparo.
@mnvshekhawat
@mnvshekhawat 2 ай бұрын
It’s going to be cheaper and faster probably
@adr2567
@adr2567 2 ай бұрын
@mnvshekhawat Cheaper for sure, faster there's only one way to find out 😀
@mnvshekhawat
@mnvshekhawat 2 ай бұрын
@ tbh I think this Ducati is gonna be cheaper than the previous v2 or at least same price
@xXAkitokunXx
@xXAkitokunXx 2 ай бұрын
Because in WorldSSP it is heavy with all that weight with a detune so I see why they went this way for WorldSSP lighter and has no detune.
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
@@xXAkitokunXx And it's an 890 now.
@patrickagan1071
@patrickagan1071 2 ай бұрын
Most beautiful sportbike at the show!!!
@SylvainSlyTherriault
@SylvainSlyTherriault 2 ай бұрын
Bikes have been gaining extreme power useless for the road and gained a lot of weight reducing agility but this makes tons of sense to me…
@wayne_kurr
@wayne_kurr 2 ай бұрын
It looks a lot better with the termi exhaust - the stock exhaust looks stupid going around the outside of the swingarm.
@JohnSmith-lk8me
@JohnSmith-lk8me 2 ай бұрын
$3000?
@ehjerto
@ehjerto 2 ай бұрын
Great review. Thx 🙂
@MrKillervincent
@MrKillervincent 2 ай бұрын
That's a lot of dough to have 3hp more than a r9, I'll get a used v2 personally
@josephmendozajr8993
@josephmendozajr8993 2 ай бұрын
What happened to Ducati , used to be the most beautiful bikes with the power to go along with it . Looks like I’m keeping mine .
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
Meh, I like the face on this one better than the previous Gen with those hideous triangular air intakes.🤮
@aviator-kn8zq
@aviator-kn8zq Ай бұрын
Smoother yes not robotic as the previous gen Ducatis were smooth designed back then too
@josephmendozajr8993
@josephmendozajr8993 Ай бұрын
@@GIGABACHI I don’t know man I think it’s what sets it apart from all the other bikes and looks awesome . Obviously my opinion
@emilior3164
@emilior3164 Ай бұрын
@@josephmendozajr8993 I think this one looks more like the desmo rr which is in my opinion the best looking and most badass Ducati!
@fredvonjupiter6061
@fredvonjupiter6061 2 ай бұрын
Cruise control (hopefully from 50km/h onwards for speed ticket free city riding) 🥰, nav 🥰, and clip ons above the triple tree🥰
@J0lker
@J0lker 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for Aprilia! please make in depth cover!!
@itsmeericb
@itsmeericb 2 ай бұрын
They came out with the RS660 Factory.
@johnadams3038
@johnadams3038 2 ай бұрын
This bike is the right direction IMO perfect for V2 120hp, will be direct comp to Duke 990 R and the new and 990 RC R
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
I think they just trying to get all their Ducs on a row with this model (Pun intended) to make it eligible for racing homologation.
@johnadams3038
@johnadams3038 2 ай бұрын
@@GIGABACHI Also perfect power figures for riding in the city
@sivanm2130
@sivanm2130 2 ай бұрын
When you describe the ergonomics you confuse two different bikes in the video. You talk about relatively high bars but show a version with aftermarket low bars. Only later you catch a glimpse of the stock high bars. Maybe slow down a little?
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
Agreed . Not one of Bob's best video's. We barely got to see the new Streetfighter.
@vinrave
@vinrave 2 ай бұрын
It’s beautiful. I’m getting one
@johankumpula
@johankumpula 2 ай бұрын
No Desmo, no single sided swingarm, no steering damper, lower spec suspension, horrible looking exhaust and a 35hp downgrade. On the upside, lower weight, nicer screen and controls, but that isnt nearly enough to convince me unfortunately.
@SarinEA
@SarinEA 2 ай бұрын
Feels like im losing what I liked from the 950s too. No Adjustable windscreen, more upright handlebars, likely softer seat, and yea single sided swingarm.
@GabrielVerdi
@GabrielVerdi 2 ай бұрын
the fact that it comes without a steering damper out of the box is mind boggling to me
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 ай бұрын
Agree 100%! 👍
@albibros87
@albibros87 2 ай бұрын
Will you cover guzzi?
@FOSNOIZ
@FOSNOIZ 2 ай бұрын
I'm keeping my 2022 SFV2, thank you very much:)
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
The old one [yours] is a much more peaky engine and a fair bit heavier.
@jimmydishkawnt
@jimmydishkawnt 2 ай бұрын
Smart choice
@Pompomgrenade
@Pompomgrenade 2 ай бұрын
😮 jaw dropping hot 🔥 I don't want anymore sport bike than that for street use
@tonychettleburgh8953
@tonychettleburgh8953 2 ай бұрын
What a beautiful looking bike and surprisingly affordable at £14,999. Thanks MotoBob for yet another excellent review.
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
It's expensive for a more road orientated bike. That is in MT10, S1000r territory with a ton more power.
@snowcrash404
@snowcrash404 2 ай бұрын
@@fyorbane the S1000r and the MT-10 cost both more than the streetfighter and if you ride spec sheets you don´t ride at all.
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
@@snowcrash404 Wrong. New Streetfighter V2 is 14 grand. S version is 16 grand. New S1000R base model is £13,760. S1000R sport is £15,765. So Beemers are slightly cheaper. MT10 is £14,316, MT10 SP is £16,616, so right in the same ballpark, however Yamaha do discount their bikes. So you are wrong.
@utkarshkaushik617
@utkarshkaushik617 2 ай бұрын
Love how sleek it looks yess it's not as aggressive as the previous one but still it looks sleek yet aggressive to me
@ericlemonnier2187
@ericlemonnier2187 Ай бұрын
Il semble plus confortable en position de conduite.
@utkarshkaushik617
@utkarshkaushik617 Ай бұрын
@ericlemonnier2187 oui, la position de conduite a été modifiée selon les critiques, elle est maintenant un peu plus adaptée à la route
@yungdadi
@yungdadi 2 ай бұрын
Alot of people are gonna buy the old v2 now
@Fonzie2612
@Fonzie2612 Ай бұрын
If you're taller than 1m70 it's impossible to ride the new SF V2. The fairing is made for people with really short legs. the panigale V2 is kinda replacing the supersport being more sporty and lighter. that one is quiet good for taller people.
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
Would have liked to have seen a bit more of the Streetfighter. My old wrists of 62 years just ain't up to riding these modern supersports bikes anymore.
@DarR1299
@DarR1299 14 күн бұрын
I'm growing into the look (DSSA), but for that price, It should have light Marchesini forged wheels. An R9 + after-market forged wheels + full exhaust will still be a lot cheaper.
@joshua5555
@joshua5555 7 күн бұрын
how many miles can you get before you refill?
@PecheurAnglais
@PecheurAnglais 2 ай бұрын
Great review of an impressive looking pair of bikes. Yes, I've owned more powerful bikes, but it's the light weight that excites me. I cant wait to see how they perform on road and track.
@JLK7700
@JLK7700 2 ай бұрын
Would like to see a comparison between this bike and the previous version.
@ukvamp
@ukvamp 2 ай бұрын
So the new V2 is now just an expensive supersport? It's cheaper than the old V2 but more expensive than the current supersport so it's just marketing to cover up the increase in cost over a supersport which it is closer to with that power
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
They just gave you the kick on the butt you needed to up your money game and splash on the V4 Panigale you always wanted from day one.
@DMRMOTORSPORT
@DMRMOTORSPORT 2 ай бұрын
If you crash will you have to replace the whole upper triple tree if the bars bend?
@richardflywills4155
@richardflywills4155 2 ай бұрын
Can you please go and look at the new Rieju Rally bike and take some pics incl spec sheet etc? No one has shown any of there stuff yet incl themselves 🤷‍♂️
@ixibladeixi2639
@ixibladeixi2639 Ай бұрын
Never seen a Ducati design that takes time to get used to. Usually there’s a wow factor right away. Not the 2025. Get any available V2 now, if you find the last 2024 Bayliss brand new, it’s “The Perfect Bike”.
@d00bius
@d00bius 2 ай бұрын
I know it’s probably low on the priority list but as soon as you have details on exactly what it is Honda did in regards to “refreshing” the XL750 let us know!
@TwinPotMan
@TwinPotMan 2 ай бұрын
I see your mum was cleaning around you again. Nice of you to have taken her 😀
@waltsmith6515
@waltsmith6515 Ай бұрын
Im sure you ment forged aluminum wheels , not cast ?
@goldenpavilionvilla8876
@goldenpavilionvilla8876 2 ай бұрын
Any sign of new Streetfighter V4 on the horizon?
@jimmydishkawnt
@jimmydishkawnt 2 ай бұрын
It does look better than the v4 imho.
@undecodable6145
@undecodable6145 2 ай бұрын
Anything about fuelling, the capacity or range?
@helgejohan3604
@helgejohan3604 2 ай бұрын
No Desmo😩😩
@adamk116
@adamk116 2 ай бұрын
In the US, the outgoing Panigale V2 was $19K vs the $16K for the new one.
@dirkbodschard3961
@dirkbodschard3961 2 ай бұрын
I am a Ducati Fan for 40 years and I am lucky to own two Ducati bikes which I love to bits. This one here leaves me speechless because I don't see one reason why I should invest in it. No Desmo, world's ugliest exhaust which looks like the handles of a wheelbarrow, displacement downgrade, torque downgrade, power downgrade. Guys, that's not a Panigale. And honestly, I don't know why it deserves to carry the Ducati badge on it. Call it "cost-saving, profit-maximizing lookalike at all cost".
@moritz8745
@moritz8745 2 ай бұрын
I'm a huge Ducati fan my selve, got a 1200 Mobster R and love it, but the v2 didn't sell. In Europe it cost up to 25k for the standard, which made a lot of people skip it and get the v4 straight away. And you don't need desmo on 120HP. So it's more accessible to non Ducatisti. But I agree looks wise the can do better. And definitely better an the streetfighter.
@mo2g709
@mo2g709 2 ай бұрын
Power/weight ratio is perfect for the street. Also is the slightly more comfortable sitting position. If you want a trackbike get the v4, if you want a great street bike get this one.
@snowcrash404
@snowcrash404 2 ай бұрын
I think this comment is nonsense. I also own a Ducati and I don't care if my street bike has a Desmo or not. For many people that will be a reason to buy one. As for the exhaust, there will be a lot of after-market exhausts if you don't like this one. 120 horsepower is more than enough for the street. I see people every day with a big V4, boxer or whatever - 180hp plus and 95% can't ride those bikes at all. I'm really looking forward to this bike, thank you Ducati.
@ikaida12
@ikaida12 2 ай бұрын
40 years is a long time. Everything change, time to move on.
@99Apit
@99Apit 2 ай бұрын
Even with the displacement, torque, power downgrade, im ok , i have ridden the previous v4 & v2 , with that much of everything i have yet to ride to the limit , hopefully i can on this new version.
@R2690-f3y
@R2690-f3y 2 ай бұрын
Its like the Original 899 but slower and smaller engine?
@KarlBuckley-bw3vc
@KarlBuckley-bw3vc 2 ай бұрын
Where's the Streetfighter V4 update?
@LeeVernon-kt6cx
@LeeVernon-kt6cx 2 ай бұрын
Nice and defiantly worth considering however you can get the new Honda hornet 1000 with ohlins / brembo and 154 bhp for £9999 the Ducati is 50% more expensive for the basic model.and makes only 120bhp albeit lighter. Comes down to how much can you afford.
@MrHamishJohnKilpatrick
@MrHamishJohnKilpatrick 2 ай бұрын
Would you do the ktm 390s next and the DRZs /sm please! /any other real medium displacement bikes brother. Many thanks
@rigobertogomez25
@rigobertogomez25 2 ай бұрын
This looks amazing, hoooly!🎉
@Longhorns264
@Longhorns264 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if the 2025 street fighter v2 will have a fuel gauge?
@ahumblerequest5222
@ahumblerequest5222 2 ай бұрын
Please do a video on KTM 390 enduro R
@AAKhanivore
@AAKhanivore 2 ай бұрын
This or the R9?
@wwfww
@wwfww 2 ай бұрын
The 30hp downgrade baffles me, id like to know why and how did this happen
@pkennethv
@pkennethv 2 ай бұрын
The engine is optimized for more torque under a wider range of RPMs which makes it more friendly/useful for street riding. It seems like Ducati is further differentiating the Panigale V4 and V2 by making the V4 high horse power, high revving, but fairly lack luster acceleration at low RPMs, with aggressive track optimized riding position. Whereas V2 is now a more relaxed street friendly position, along with more street friendly accessible torque at lower RPMs
@wwfww
@wwfww 2 ай бұрын
@ that’s good, the bike is absolutely beautiful
@DMRMOTORSPORT
@DMRMOTORSPORT 2 ай бұрын
Supersport championship regulations
@JelloThatsMellow
@JelloThatsMellow 2 ай бұрын
Like the style redesign, very sleek.
@Shahar_C
@Shahar_C 2 ай бұрын
That's a rebranding of the Supersport
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
And I'm ok with that as it looks much better than the SS, JMHO.
@SarinEA
@SarinEA 2 ай бұрын
With no adjustable windscreen, more aggressive handlebars, no single sided swing arm... This is a downgrade from the ss 950s. Im disappointed.
@matthewtrinh4872
@matthewtrinh4872 2 ай бұрын
That bike comparison list at the end of the video was confusing! None of the bikes are in the same category.
@imamfn
@imamfn 2 ай бұрын
Rather than downgrading the power 35 fucking hp down to 120, why don't they just make "the homologation special" like they do with V4R (1000cc) compared to normal V4s?
@joyydeeeep
@joyydeeeep 2 ай бұрын
Wait a sec....this has a fuel indicator 👀👀👀👀
@Pmor75
@Pmor75 2 ай бұрын
Will the new engine be on the Monster in 2025?
@SunnyKim_
@SunnyKim_ 2 ай бұрын
Spec sheet street riders will cry but in reality they had to detune the V2 so much for WSS that this makes a lot of sense.
@edneldavid4324
@edneldavid4324 2 ай бұрын
Is that a fuel gauge?😊
@DoraTheNinja
@DoraTheNinja 2 ай бұрын
So what's the point of the Ducati Monster now? Are they going to reduce power on that even more? Usually the panigale makes more power than the monster now they make the same power almost like why would you even bother buying a panigale or a streetfighter except for looks ?
@yammt3148
@yammt3148 2 ай бұрын
Soooooo, R9... Got it.
@mprbusiness
@mprbusiness 2 ай бұрын
Very expensive R9 you mean ... Cant wait to see how this new engine keeps up against a race tuned CP3 😂 Yamaha is gonna sell R9s like hot bread now 😅
@rosco950ss7
@rosco950ss7 2 ай бұрын
Love this, sold my supersport and bought a bike with cruise control due to an injury. Miss it alot, always wanted a little more power though, so this is just perfect. Wondering if that white Ducati lettering on the side is going to be on all S models - looks brilliant to me.
@SlowRiderDucati
@SlowRiderDucati 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad I bought two 2024 Panigale V2s for my twin boys. Ducati really shaved off a lot of performance and features on the new model. Seems like the same price as well. And no clip ons or single sided swing arm . At this price point I would buy a different bike.
@twistjapan
@twistjapan 2 ай бұрын
A lot of people don’t understand that this bike was made just so Ducati can race in super sport, they don’t care about what the customer wants. Or maybe they do understand, people like to overpay for a brand name to flex, accepting bad value in return. A zx6r, cbr600rr and r9 was always going to provide better value, but this is getting super obvious now the brand is not holding to its heritage because if corporate greed. What does this bike do better? It’s better for around town for posing? That light weight will get you tossed around on the highway unless you weigh 300 pounds. It’s good in the twisters, but so are others, for far cheaper, and will do it better while looking way nicer. Ducati, this is a shitty direction you have taken, and it’s sad no one is going to have the balls as a content creator to say it, because they will want their things surely in the future. I won’t buy a Ducati, I hope Honda comes out with that v3 and takes all the sales
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
@@twistjapan "𝑰 𝒉𝒐𝒑𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒏𝒅𝒂 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒔 𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒗3 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒔." . . . Boy, how badly I whish you to be right and me wrong in the "VERY near future" BUT I don't think they'll do anything exciting with that thing and that's just me naively giving them the benefit of the doubt thinking they will.
@needler117
@needler117 2 ай бұрын
I need this Panigale. It has everything I want in a bike.
@johnfpv6989
@johnfpv6989 2 ай бұрын
Its gorgeous to look at... I hope i finally can afford one Ducati streetfighter v2 one day
@sukao2000
@sukao2000 14 күн бұрын
R9大体同じようなスペックで金額は50万高、確かにかっこいいしこっちを買いたくなる。気になるのはメンテ費用だけかな高いからねw 今まで納車すぐ10マンかかったとか聞くからね。
@ThomasWhitaker-r2d
@ThomasWhitaker-r2d 17 күн бұрын
Call me old school but I still prefer my modified 2009 R1 (Ohlins suspension, brembo brakes, M4 exhaust, remapped ECU, Galspeed wheels, Q4 dunlops, and other googies) @ 195 kg with 163 rwhp and is payed for!!! All the fun one might want for a street bike that works well on the track. Just saying! My last Ducati was a F!-B that I regret selling.
@leonardleo6596
@leonardleo6596 2 ай бұрын
What's the point of the streetfighter V2 when it's only 9hp more than the Monster 937, and probably costs a whole lot more?
@유성민-y7k
@유성민-y7k 2 ай бұрын
야마하도 3기통 900cc로 120마력 언저리 출력을내고 두카티도 2기통으로 120마력... 아마도 4기통 600cc를 대체하는 레이싱 카테고리가 생기려나 보군요
@nocapoca5313
@nocapoca5313 2 ай бұрын
so it has desmo or not
@nix294
@nix294 2 ай бұрын
Nope
@dmaxcustom
@dmaxcustom 2 ай бұрын
Ducati: If you have to ask the price, you cant afford it.
@JohnSmith-lk8me
@JohnSmith-lk8me 2 ай бұрын
I can afford its not good dollar value. Their are better bikes on the market for the V2 S price range.
@robertprosser6856
@robertprosser6856 2 ай бұрын
R9 competitor.
@robertprosser6856
@robertprosser6856 2 ай бұрын
100hp difference between this and the V4 is a big difference.
@RavencoreLZR
@RavencoreLZR 2 ай бұрын
I'm only waiting for the BMW S/M 1000 R.
@Voondiaz
@Voondiaz 2 ай бұрын
I dont see any problem with the new v2. Im so invested with it. ❤ Cant wait to to test ride it!!
@doggking001
@doggking001 2 ай бұрын
R9 looking a way better option in price, reliability, and maintenance than V2!!
@FrenchyRider574
@FrenchyRider574 2 ай бұрын
True, but not in terms of looks, that's for sure. R9 also looks like its made of cheap plastics
@doggking001
@doggking001 2 ай бұрын
@ it's still better made than Ducati to be honest. Japanese build quality is on different level.
@TerribleTimes
@TerribleTimes 2 ай бұрын
not sure we're going to have a Monster anymore, cause if it has the same engine, what is the point. . . ?
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 ай бұрын
I made this point on another page. The new Streetfighter and Monster [if they did one] would be too close on spec and performance even if they used the 115hp version. It would be just too close.
@gazakelly9266
@gazakelly9266 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking wow ! i will trade my 2020 Z 900 against one until i saw the seat height , ffs 33 inch i am 5,6 and a 29 inch leg , such a shame love the new V2 😭
@GCTO239
@GCTO239 2 ай бұрын
Panigale Supersport 😂
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
🤷‍♂️
@SarinEA
@SarinEA 2 ай бұрын
Lacking all the nice things about the supersport too. No Adjustable windscreen , less upright handlebars, no single sided swingarm. Im just disappointed
@matthewtrinh4872
@matthewtrinh4872 2 ай бұрын
KTM already figured the formula with the Superduke. More torque for street usage. Don’t need RPM in the 10k range for peak HP. Gets tiresome riding in that rev range for the streets.
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 2 ай бұрын
I am glad I picked up a 950 Super Sport S when I did. I just don't get Ducati's thinking on this........if I am gonna own a twin it better be torquey as hell....this new engine just seems like a compromise so they can get rid of the Super Sport but then dumb down the previous V2 Panny. Although I am not a fan of the current V2.....absolutley no torque at all. The Super Sport is a much better road bike. I wish they would have just beefed up the Testy engine and kept the Super Sport and retired the V2 Panny. Now you just have a choice of two uncomfortable race bikes for the road.
@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx
@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx 2 ай бұрын
This is all about weight loss and torque for the road not the track, 70% available at 3,000 revs. There is no point having power higher up the Rev range as on the old bike, it has to be detuned for SuperSports.
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 2 ай бұрын
@@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx I agree but will it be better than the 15 year proven Testastretta? Also, the riding position on the Super Sport is the key.....who needs a race riding position on the street? All well and good if they were keeping the Super Sport but they are not from what I was told. That 937 Engine imho, is their best engine for the road.
@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx
@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx 2 ай бұрын
@ 44 teeth and Chris at Bile World have far better reviews and tell you more than I can answer including the rider who developed it.
@flmacphee1158
@flmacphee1158 2 ай бұрын
Love it! It’s just wayyyyyy out of my price range
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 ай бұрын
I'm ok with these 2. 120HP for the street on a "light motorcycle" it's plenty to scare yourself shitless if you don't treat it with respect. My only beef is the horribly designed and routed factory exhaust system. WTF were they thinking when they let that thing make it to the final production ready version ? Are people @Ducati BLIND ? 2:33 Why didn't they route the mid-pipe THRU THE INSIDE of the new swingarm like the showcased Akrapovic and Termignoni systems ? Is not like the shock it's in the way taking the space ! 🤦‍♂ Is the Termi system shown in the bike an emissions compliant system ? Is it a FULL system or just a half system (cat back) ? Hopefully the aftermarket it's already hard at work trying to remedy their FUBAR style decision while making some $$$ in the process. 2: 00 That AKRA full system it's BEAUTIFUL ! A shame that most of it it's hidden behind body panels. Thanks for the EICMA coverage, Bob ! You always deliver ! 👌😎👍
@carlosruiz1069
@carlosruiz1069 2 ай бұрын
Look fuel gaze again !!
@dewejie
@dewejie 2 ай бұрын
there will be a v2r released next year with more horsepower
@cycletexas9157
@cycletexas9157 2 ай бұрын
They made a mistake. They got this swapped with the new supersport by accident.
@BrassGoblin03
@BrassGoblin03 2 ай бұрын
Desmo valves were good when spring metallurgy wasn’t that great. Now they are unnecessary and expensive
@robertprosser6856
@robertprosser6856 2 ай бұрын
Not into the mass of black plastic on the side.
@petersymons7817
@petersymons7817 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@thejoker_167
@thejoker_167 2 ай бұрын
What you didn’t mention or miss about this new engine is that it’s required no oil cooling as the old engine, very impressive but the bike looks like Chinese style TBH
@brisdevicestv
@brisdevicestv 2 ай бұрын
I am thinking "it is the all new Supersport has not V2
@ramachandranselvamani1442
@ramachandranselvamani1442 2 ай бұрын
Sorry ducati.. this is the worst design change made by ducti.. I am not going to buy this
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