when the Beta and Triumph get added gonna be hard to fit them all in the thumbnail
@benmartin6476 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Ducati
@Dashriprock4 Жыл бұрын
And TM
@benmartin6476 Жыл бұрын
@@Dashriprock4 can’t believe I forgot TM I have a 2023 TM. Lol But those aren’t new. They are just too hard to get ahold of
@xXRedEyedStrangerXx Жыл бұрын
@@benmartin6476 They are super cool bikes (TM) Wish they had more imported and more coverage. some really cool "works" type parts on them.Very unique!
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
@@benmartin6476and not sold everywhere
@dhprojects3296 Жыл бұрын
Love the new editing style of this shootout! Made it a lot more fun and interesting to watch
@the_balserito Жыл бұрын
Exactly I was 100% engaged with the video
@MbocoNgawe Жыл бұрын
they made the rmz like a comedy relief. and what do you think was in that ratio rite, haha
@canamxmr4760 Жыл бұрын
Y’all are taking the production value to a whole different level great job
@JohnDoe-gn3rg11 ай бұрын
My dad has read every issue of this magazine since 1990 and was so stoked when I told him about their KZbin channel. I can’t believe he didn’t know about it 😂
@stupidhead911710 ай бұрын
How so?
@Davido504 ай бұрын
MXA always #1 💯 -NY
@Davido504 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-gn3rg 💯 💯 👍🏻
@LJSiar Жыл бұрын
Josh deserves a raise Jody. $$$ production is top of the heap! YZ is the bike again.
@stupidhead911710 ай бұрын
You think the presenter actually makes the video?
@Davido504 ай бұрын
@@stupidhead9117 💯 👍🏻👍🏻
@gregroybal348 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 450 shootout!!! You guys are having too much fun!!! Once again Excellent job Josh and MXA TEAM👍👍👍
@Davido504 ай бұрын
💯 💯 👍🏻💪🏻
@lennartdiedrich2734 Жыл бұрын
after hearing the numbers its a joke to say suzuki is the heaviest and slowest, wtf. 56,9 hp to 57.2 kawasaki. and 241 lbs rmz and 239 kawasaki. guys thats nothing. if it had 48 hp you could say its slow but that sentence brings the wrong message at that lille differences
@joshmosiman1955 Жыл бұрын
Technically the Suzuki is still slow, it hit 54.87 on the dyno last year without the “RM Army” edition Pro Circuit exhaust system. Also, Kawasaki was 234 last year and it jumped up to 239, it is also very heavy!
@docstomp55246 ай бұрын
It’s just not a good buy IMO either yeah it’s a little cheaper but not by enough. For $2k more you get better engine, breaks, suspension and a starter , it would cost way more in time and money to do that to a RM.
@Davido504 ай бұрын
💯 💯 #SuzukiRMZ
@SHUTUPCHICKEN2 Жыл бұрын
Mxa has always had the best shootout videos out of any magazine and you guys are even better this year
@justuandmebb Жыл бұрын
I would love to see an extended interview with Jody. Great job as usual.
@ManuelTorres-qy8op Жыл бұрын
YZ450F looks spectacular ❤
@Runk3lsmcdougal Жыл бұрын
I think they look hideous. Like a Frankenstein bike, but whatever works
@ManuelTorres-qy8op Жыл бұрын
@@Runk3lsmcdougal the good thing is there are plenty of choices and colors. Pick your poison!
@crimsontide9532 Жыл бұрын
@@ManuelTorres-qy8op SKDA got some badass graphics kits
@rileyvosper411 Жыл бұрын
Looks bad when it isn’t blue.
@МаксимКрицкий-и4б Жыл бұрын
Привет из 90 х годов .
@jsk.71 Жыл бұрын
Please keep up these shootouts!!! They have always been my favorite thing to check out, back when they were just in the magazine. I've always favored Motocross Action tests over all others. Keep up the great work MXA!!🎉
@yell2wolfe Жыл бұрын
Well-produced MXA gang. The integrated marketing bits felt organic and made the viewing experience a joy! 👏👏👏
@jacobhendrickson893511 ай бұрын
I so love it, everything they do to the YZ450 is to mellow it down. Been a Yamaha guy for so many years and love seeing there bikes at the top.
@jeremy8283 Жыл бұрын
Josh, you went full youtuber in this video. Made it much more enjoyable in my opinion as these videos can get dry just listing specs and discussing performance characteristics.
@cintroberts66148 ай бұрын
The Pros are that the dealerships have tons of them on the showroom floors. The Cons are that know one can afford them anymore.
@TerrenceLP4 ай бұрын
Besides Yamaha is still the best 🎉 I'll keep my 2007
@BrodyMouton-v7l4 ай бұрын
Damn straight
@androo357 Жыл бұрын
What’s wild is the RMZ450 still keeps up in torque and is only marginally off in horsepower. Realistically it isn’t THAT much heavier. That’s nuts. Seeing that some of the newer bikes have less torque is absolutely wild.
@lennartdiedrich2734 Жыл бұрын
56,5 hp rmz. honda 56,6 and kawi 57,2. joke to say its the slowest. that sounds like it has 45 hp
@jackbruce309 Жыл бұрын
It is still my pick
@jeffcombs295010 ай бұрын
It weighs the same as the Kawasaki once you install the free PC exhaust.
@jamieteal210710 ай бұрын
@@jackbruce309👍🇦🇺
@superbeast-lq3ft4 ай бұрын
Add electric start and it would be 270lbs.
@philipwurm512111 ай бұрын
Good to see Jody!!! I loved reading his column all through High School in the 80’s!!!
@Kawiboy Жыл бұрын
Anytime I see Jody it's a Fantastic Day 👋💪✌️ Appreciate ya MXA O'l G 😉
@tieNagle Жыл бұрын
Love it - Trevor is killing it! I'd take the Kawi!!
@knowbody9679 Жыл бұрын
My 97 Harley Davidson fatboy only has 50-55 HP. These bikes are monsters.
@jacobhendrickson893511 ай бұрын
I know it crazy, they are getting up close to the 500cc 2 stroke power. Thankfully not near as brutal.
@Davido504 ай бұрын
@@jacobhendrickson8935 450s have nearly 60hp..500cc 2-strokes are low 50s (stock). Facts. 💯 #KTM
@ricericebaby_1660 Жыл бұрын
Well shot shootout! Thanks for all the info. Stash is looking good Josh!
@sorenlauridsen4413 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the "stach" is a joke... Well I hope so Lol
@MasonMcNabb Жыл бұрын
Suzukis engine package is 🔥. And super reliable, they just need to dial the suspension, and loose some weight and it would be so good. No estart just loose the weight dial the suspension
@TeoZMuff313 Жыл бұрын
Best in the industry. Thanks MXA
@PGF-TRAILS Жыл бұрын
Great Shootout Josh! As I watch all the bikes as a vet rider like a huge demographic I wonder how many people watching these Shootouts can actually use even have of these bikes potential in stock form? I own a KTM but know i wouldn't be faster on any of these models Because of my conditioning and talent level so I would buy a Suzuki. No need to spend $2k more. Plus when I pull it out to ride 1 year later I won't have a dead battery. 😊
@mototoad1242 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir!! My ole Suzuki has never left me stranded in the woods, can't say the same for my best friend who rides orange
@PGF-TRAILS Жыл бұрын
@mototoad1242 I agree, I've raced suzukis since I was a kid and still own have a 2014 rmz450. I love my ktm but have had little problems. But not my Zuks!!!👍
@bertbroeder1832 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is way cheaper to buy, true. But must buyers fix shock and fork at least. With other words: if you have your Suzuki dialed in you can buy the other ones easily. Suzuki last few years it is mostly for the yellow lovers. Good point with the battery!
@jacobhendrickson893511 ай бұрын
No thanks, spend an extra grand for the YZ.
@johnluck1923 Жыл бұрын
Josh- another great 450 shootout, loved seeing Jody's guest appearance.
@142goody Жыл бұрын
Great video I appreciate it the comedy and lightheartedness along with the business side
@deakin123deakin9 Жыл бұрын
It's all down to personal preference there all good and fast and have there pros and cons just pick the colour you like or make and enjoye there all great bikes
@jonashoeg Жыл бұрын
So the kawi made 57hp with rubber plug mounted? Or?
@manny.9273 Жыл бұрын
Zook will always still sound the best
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
Especially with that pro circuit!
@corin6677 Жыл бұрын
Looks the best too
@manny.9273 Жыл бұрын
@@corin6677 yeah its like a dart love the damn thing
@jacobhendrickson893511 ай бұрын
I had a brand new 1994 Yz250 and it appears they made this anniversary edition look like it did. So freaking sweet. White with purple. That 94 250 was the best YZ I ever owned for racing hare scrambles the bottom end power was awesome.
@excuter90 Жыл бұрын
add next year and TM racing
@nicholascanjura5051 Жыл бұрын
This shootout is dope
@boostdmarkii865911 ай бұрын
With triumph and Ducati and the other bikes added over the last few years this is the most anticipated shootout in a long long time
@spacejaime Жыл бұрын
Prominet Pirelli branding. Excellent tires. 👍👍
@apriloneal3397 Жыл бұрын
FIRE job, TN and crew
@driftmax5180 Жыл бұрын
RMZ❤😍
@adamrochester1 Жыл бұрын
The 23 and 24 yz hasn’t changed has it ? Same same ?
@shadecomfortss Жыл бұрын
RM forever.
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
They’ll always have a special place in my heart, kickin myself for selling mine but I will definitely get another in the future
@jamieteal210711 ай бұрын
@@aydenrich262👍🇦🇺
@ridemx323 Жыл бұрын
Best video editing from MXA so far.
Жыл бұрын
I admit at first I didn't like the new Yamaha's seat, But after a few hrs I came to love it,
@crimsontide9532 Жыл бұрын
Ikr when you feel the power of that new yz450 you forget all about the seat
@mphracingvideos Жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Loved the shootout. I have a 2023 KTM 450 and I would like to know what suspension settings etc you used, and if they can be used on my 450 KTM 2023? I am an older novice rider. Cheers
@eric-yt Жыл бұрын
Love the production value!!
@Justen1980 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Is that Jody?? RM-Z should get 1992 retro graphics while they're at it!
@bertbroeder1832 Жыл бұрын
14:55 Love it! The starting fields in Germany are often around 50% orange like they used to be yellow 40 years ago and we often say pumpkin cup. Would really like to test the orange and blue at one day same track to compare. My both favorites are 1 + 2 place, nice. It really drives me nuts to check the austrian spokes and can't believe after years, KTM can't fix that. How many years you guys are telling us to check them frequently? Com'on Mr. Pierer, we have the technology! Air forks: 3 pounds is really a number. As a (slow ;-) ) non pro self wrenching pay own bills vet rider (npswpobvr) chasing every minute between earning money, training, racing, wrenching, sleeping, driving highways and some call it family I really dislike it to have an extra thing to do so often. Which one is the most reliable 450 4-stroke?
@juhasalo1888 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki...best for all motocross hobbyriders. Easy to service and keep on cause same parts fits many ears. No battery and electric starter problems. Enduro use then different thing...
@OtisFlint Жыл бұрын
I feel like the 24 KX450X with the smoother TQ curve might be a great XC/woods bike, although the weight doesn't really support that.
@UnsungThermidor Жыл бұрын
I have the new KX450X model and I absolutely love it. The lack of power is painfully overstated. It's fast, very fast, it pulls like a freight train when you get it going. And I'm coming from my 22 450SR. The power hits different its much smoother and linear, also the bike is amazingly stable on the brakes and I find myself standing through so many more turns than I would on my SR.
@reedgalbraith650811 ай бұрын
1.7 fuel tank? No skid plate? No o-ring chain? X model doesn't offer much more than the F.
@UnsungThermidor11 ай бұрын
@reedgalbraith6508 it has an o ring chain, and 18 inch rear as well as some ecu tuning it seems. They definitely could have done better but its still the best bike Ive ever ridden
@OtisFlint10 ай бұрын
@@reedgalbraith6508 Yeah I just saw the first reviews of the X and realized they did essentially nothing more than the F on an 18" rear with softer valving...and they want $10700 for it. No way, much better options
@reedgalbraith650810 ай бұрын
@@OtisFlint I wanted a Kawi.. but Yamaha FX for me..
@JohnBrown-km1by Жыл бұрын
61hp on the husky??? Thats a ton of power for the average weekend warrior😂
@jacksargent1883 Жыл бұрын
It’s still very rideable and easy to handle because of the closed off air box
@christophervillarreal85659 ай бұрын
Average weekend warrior shouldn’t be on a 450
@codystrom87089 ай бұрын
@@christophervillarreal8565 why not? It’s fun to have the extra power even if you don’t necessarily need it
@christophervillarreal85659 ай бұрын
@@codystrom8708 tell that to the guys who die every year accidentally grabbing a hand full of throttle
@benmartin6476 Жыл бұрын
I wish they had the retro Kawasaki in this one
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
I would buy that
@the_balserito Жыл бұрын
Best video ever
@patd4u2 Жыл бұрын
i've purchased all my side-by-side's at Temecula motorsports, best prices around
@jacobb229610 ай бұрын
I just bought a crf450 due to no where having Yamaha. I was wondering if someone has one that has made adjustments maybe suspension wise to make it feel like my 2020 Yamaha did or any advice.
@JNOSNOW Жыл бұрын
Definitely going with a YZ450 for when I build a new snowbike next year. Gotta see how much itll make with a velocity stack intake and tune
@mikestrophytruck5 ай бұрын
Which one of these bike corners and turns the best besides the RMZ 450?
@ryanselway7944 Жыл бұрын
Did the KX go backwards???
@Mikehoncho191 Жыл бұрын
Poor Suzuki😂 I still love them but they gotta try harder, thankfully Kenny is waxing everyone but the Lawrence bros on a damn near stock RMZ, hopefully we get an update
@kelvis198011 ай бұрын
Damn near stock bike??? You can't be serious! Yeah a 100k bike is damn near stock lol.
@derrickbruce3297 Жыл бұрын
I was going to say 3 bike a missing but the he made that phone call lol
@racerunnermx Жыл бұрын
A little bit late! RIDE ON
@ed11. Жыл бұрын
I hope that you guys do the factory bikes next 🤘🏻
@bertbroeder1832 Жыл бұрын
Yeah face to face laptimes here, would be very great.
@chalo212 Жыл бұрын
They are almost 60HP its insane.
@AndrewDeVries211 Жыл бұрын
Great edit!
@erasmodelira3247 Жыл бұрын
Faltou a Beta 450 e a thump 250?
@LITTLEBRAT7750812 ай бұрын
8:43 there is a new one in the shop right now for only 6 k where I live
@elyscomn59 Жыл бұрын
What about the KOVE 450 MX ?
@deanwaring6100 Жыл бұрын
Hoping that you can get a Triumph in your 250 shootout😊
@jounipohjolainen2687 Жыл бұрын
Is this an advertisement of all the aftermarket parts that I should put on the Yamaha. Where would I find an ad for all these parts? Wait, I found them on the pages of motocross action magazine.
@BigKidCasey Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Yamaha's new graphics are boldest!
@alexgonzalezMI Жыл бұрын
There’s so many 450’s now. I remember when there was only 4 and some orange thing John Dowd rode that was a 520.
@rogergauthier276911 ай бұрын
I got a 2016 rmz 450 i think its fine tbh left the stock pipe on it cause the power isnt radical ya know it runs with anything..
@keithkeller698 Жыл бұрын
@8:45 sec. Is that a fig tree in the background?
@scootersinc9480 Жыл бұрын
Love my 50th yz450 so happy with it
@kennedyracing7527 Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t not wait for the Beta? It’s coming this month
@chrisvillarreal2752 Жыл бұрын
Because it’s trash
@kennedyracing7527 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisvillarreal2752 you all ready own on that has not been released??
@chrisvillarreal2752 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedyracing7527 because they’re all trash 🤡
@racerunnermx Жыл бұрын
@@chrisvillarreal2752you seem pretty confident, do you even own a bike? Being that this shoot out is basically not a true comparison of all manufacturers not including,Sherco,TM, Beta, Triumph and Rieju just to name a few . RIDE ON
@chrisvillarreal2752 Жыл бұрын
@@racerunnermx I own them all including those and gpx no koves yet but maybe if I get bored and want to try out more garbage
@Pompomgrenade Жыл бұрын
YZ ❤MX 2024
@blandos958111 ай бұрын
They’re all lovely :)
@AntiPattern328 Жыл бұрын
Now, we need to throw in the Beta, Triumph and Ducati
@Cmoore9715 Жыл бұрын
Dang we gotta wait til March to see the graphs in the article??
@kylemceachran Жыл бұрын
Such a bummer to see the GasGas going backwards...
@Samsquatch02210 ай бұрын
Where's TM at
@davidciesielski8251 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys.
@ChristopherSpartanMumme11 ай бұрын
Why did you not do beta? Especially now that they are finally supercross.
@chevyboy3711 ай бұрын
And i will STILL buy a badass new RM-Z 450 as it still handles the best.
@ed11. Жыл бұрын
They should mention that when you buy a Husqvarna it comes with 2 air box covers, 1 closed and 1 with the holes for more air flow which makes the bike much better.
@MultiNinja888 Жыл бұрын
Hanging for the triumph it’s a nice looking bike be good to see how it stacks up
@Motosportz Жыл бұрын
So appreciative.
@joshuasmith5472 Жыл бұрын
The KX air filter is a worrying issue. Yes looks cool. But I feel it's a nit as good as they say. I'm a KX fan and look forward to the 2025 KX250. But if the don't fix that airfilter then I'll stay with my 2021 kx250
@campcop921411 ай бұрын
That white and pink look of the YZ in crispy
@AutospeciLvAkumulatori Жыл бұрын
FOR YZ450 NOT TO WHEELIE, SET AT LOWER RPMS IGNITION TO -10 AND FUEL TO -3. OR FUEL AT ZERO, IF YOU WANT A BIT PUNCHIER LOW RPMS. CLOSE TO UPPER RPMS SET ALL EQUALLY CLOSER TO NORMAL, EXCEPT IGNITION CAN BE STILL A BIT RETARDED. FUEL AT ZERO- LESS TRHROTTLE RESPONSE, MORE TORQUE. FUEL AT -3 SNAPPIER THROTTLE RESPONSE, LESS TORQUE.
@AutospeciLvAkumulatori Жыл бұрын
Wtf this stripe on text is 😂
@onetime242 Жыл бұрын
It seems unusual that the Yamaha finished first considering how many complaints you had about it and all of the changes necessary to make it “rideable”.
@SereneSaturnPlanet-ps4bl9 ай бұрын
these bikes should come with a60 wheel sets for as much as they cost they should have mud fling rims included. I do love the Yamaha model it is excellent and it reminds me of the very first bike my father bought me as a kid. the color theme is awesome. old school dude. I would buy the Suzuki I prefer a kick start bike. and a free muffler header and all minus 2lbs . your gonna mess with suspension no matter what bike you get every time you ride. I'd buy the Suzuki and it's cheaper.
@michellatour150 Жыл бұрын
Crazy thing about Suzuki in Canada is their MSRP is about the same as the other bikes...
@Kx4fiddy Жыл бұрын
I’m 15 and I wanna get the kx450sr it looks nice and seems like it rides nice
@3katd9 ай бұрын
Sr is useless.
@BLINC6063 ай бұрын
You don’t have to “detune” the motor of the YZ, just change your clutch setup so you’ll have max power up top, but more slip on the hit. More work but I mean it’s the best way to get rid of too much hit.
@henriqueantunes45648 ай бұрын
Which one is your favorite ? If you would buy one of them now . Thanks
@franciscolinera7618 Жыл бұрын
I am not so sure, maybe I am just getting old. Long live the Bazzer!
@brockhammond9575 Жыл бұрын
Why are you testing stock bikes in their stock form but putting different tires on it
@AndrzejSzary-v3m9 ай бұрын
KAWASAKI ❤
@docstomp55246 ай бұрын
I know everyone uses the term “de-tune” but is that technically what you’re doing if you are just changing the power curve with a re-map?
@jonathanfierberg380711 ай бұрын
Good job sir
@stkyfngrszmooth Жыл бұрын
Still no TM? C'mon, MXA. Your pockets must be deep enough by now where you should've purchased one and included it in this shootout. Otherwise, consumers like myself won't know where ANY of these bikes truly rank.
@aydenrich262 Жыл бұрын
They’re hard to get ahold of, for example, no dealerships near me have them
@stkyfngrszmooth Жыл бұрын
@aydenrich262 There's a dealership here in Massachusetts just a few minutes from me that had TMs for years, but I just checked his website (Monty's Motorsports, Westfield) and now I can't find anything TM-related. It seems they've pulled back on their US importing. Either way, though, MXA is a huge name in MX and should've at least made an effort to get a couple (250/450). I dunno, I thought it would've made these shootouts much more interesting. 🤷🏻♂️
@racerunnermx Жыл бұрын
@@aydenrich262could have borrowed one from friends or industry! RIDE ON
@patmartin441111 ай бұрын
2:18 He said "remove the rubber". Hey listen, the last time I did that I crashed and burned big time boys.This is an extremely serious endeavor and not to be taken lightly! I strongly advise "proceed with caution". At least do yourselves a favor and feel her out a little first before jumping on her and going crazy