Motocross Future: Electric Bikes, Rising Costs, & Challenges

[@gregharris2928]

Motocross will never die. If a track disappears, build another one in a corn field and they will come. I’m 67 years old and I drive/ride like I’m a 16 year old with the throttle pegged wide open from point A to B racing everyone in my path with a smile on my face the whole way playin Van Halen in my head.

[@PaulWestcott-in8cv]

R u donating cornfield. to build tracks? You make sound so easy the next cornfield available please respond to m3 well appreciated ❤

[@gregharris2928]

@@PaulWestcott-in8cv we’ve got a track in a field here in Pueblo, CO yes donated to the public.

[@williamleonardo8478]

When I hear my 500 2-stroke rev out that makes my heart go pitter-patter long live the two stroke and the machines that have souls every time I fired up it makes me happy🎉

[@dagodigs]

I don't have of my. 2 strokes dirtbikes no more but I got some Blasters and got em bored out I am 2 stroke for life!!!!

[@Workerbee-zy5nx]

I raced my 84 500r b class and it was fun.

[@corvette_jake7225]

As someone who is an electrical engineering and owns a tesla plaid along with 1000hp corvettes. Electric bikes and cars have no soul and it makes them suck

[@buddysumner4022]

I’ve been saying the same thing ,, they have no soul,,

[@kurtheidelbach]

Comparing an electric bike and car aren’t even in the same league. Most people that have electric bikes hate electric cars.You obviously don’t have much time on an e bike

[@mixalis6168]

EVs are only good for daily use, boredom of riding a bike without gears, clutch and no sounds is boring as !! My Tesla is good for daily, my 66 fastback is my ,mental health check, while my raptor is great for trips and day to day stuff too

[@kurtheidelbach]

@ Yeah and you 💯 haven’t spent much time on a Varg either. Comparing cars to motorcycles is just flat out dumb

[@buddysumner4022]

@@kurtheidelbach I’ll vouch for him,, I’ve rode the Alta and the Varg, and his 100% right they are a soulless machine,,,

[@MarkFries-o7n]

I don’t know how any kid can afford any of the new motocross bikes. As a kid in the 70’s we could find a bike that we could afford without my parents assistance! Making a $1.25 per hour in 72 I was still able to but my first used bike.

[@rider65]

Motorsport is a true Visceral experience. Sight. Sound. Smell. Take away one of these key components and the experience is significantly degraded. Most humans operate on visual/vibratory/olfactory levels. It's human nature. 😄🙄 But 'experts' are going to tell us differently. 🤦‍♂️

[@DmitriyAdv]

I agree. I think we (and the governments) need to rethink the connection between motorsport and transportation - they may have been the same thing back in the 50's or 60's, but a modern race vehicle probably shares less than 10% of it's components with something you'd see on the street. They are no longer the same thing, not the same experience, and carry different priorities. Just like nobody wants to go to a quiet concert. Sure, I want to live in a quiet and clean town. That's where low noise and low emissions are a priority. I also would like to have an exciting experience when racing a dirtbike.

[@gregharris2928]

I can’t believe someone understands. You are Awesome. Happy Trails my friend.

[@matthewmuellner]

The electric cars have so many screens, micro switches, computers - so much that wont last 20 years that not one will be pulled out of a barn in 50 yrs & be restored - but they will be able to restore a 100 yr old car then & make it usable again.

[@OtisFlint]

Apparently you're unfamiliar with modern combustion cars. The issues you mentioned are in no way related to an electric powertrain, actually the opposite.

[@BrianPearce-m9q]

i could listen to ryno all day. love this guy

[@MAMethven]

The sport started going downhill with the introduction of the 4 strokes. The old days of only 2 strokes was much better times. Better racing with less cost. The technology that the new bikes have is absolutely ridiculous. In the old days you realy had to know how to ride the bike to get it going fast. You had to know how to change gears at the right time and use clutch control to gain speed. These days with mapping and so on none of these guys would last on a real race bike, a 2 stroke

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

Nothing like Detroit V8 engines. Had a '71 Chevelle SS 454. No electric car will feel the same. Have a CR250 & 500 2 stroke, will never buy an electric bike.

[@22B-i8z]

❤

[@thetruthserum2816]

The moment you realize that the importer pays for tariffs, and that every single dirt bike on the planet is not made in America... Didn't think that one through to the end, now did we...

[@bradsanders6954]

Its different, when a president actively WANTS to destroy an economy, and promises "tough economic times ahead" people voted for their own demise. ...In order to kill social security and medicare the economy has to be destroyed first....some dont quite get this yet, but they will! Musk needs citizens to suffer.

[@johnpeterson4926]

glad to hear ur back on a bike,im 54 broke my back twice,I still ride and will tell my body says no more.just have to take her easier now a days,God bless 👍

[@Paul-th6tp]

Agreed 100% I grew up racing 2 strokes at Barona Oaks. The smell of the premix and the sound of the pros shredding! The sound is what makes our sport just 1 part of the enjoyment! 👍🔥🥳✊️

[@jeffarcher400]

My 82 Cr250 cost $400 and lasted for years. A decade later I got a 89 Cr for $1000. A decade later I had 2002 Cr,Kx,Yz and Drz all for around $1500 each. A decade later I still have them and the two strokes all run. I can work on them myself. Sadly I don't ride them much. My electric mountain bikes allow me to ride every day with zero maintenance right near my house and places I can't ride gas bikes. However when they do break there's nobody that can repair the motors and they're junk. I can play that game with a $1000 second hand ebike. I'm not paying thousands of dollars to take a heavy electric motorcycle out to a riding area for an hour or two of riding then have to sit for hours while it charges on a gas generator.

[@ricecrash5225]

I will go one step further. Des Nations should actually have an independent third class, 2 stroke, either 125 or 250 don’t care but preferably a 125 class.

[@barcuda1250]

Most tracks close from noises😂 So bit of a contradiction 😅

[@bradsanders6954]

Many tracks especially so cal, close from the property being worth way too much to just run a race track on. Condos or what ever are worth millions more to develop. Money is all that matters in the US.

[@TheShift1313]

Across VA they closed for noise. Even private property you have to fight noise complaints. I was around tge 2t to 4t transition and everyone was "im never riding a thumper". Same exact argument. I want a stark ex. Its the best option for me to be able to ride without going hours away. I have a 450 and a 250 2t and enjoy them both. I also ride mountain bikes. No sound. No smells. No problem. Tons of trail access. If the choice is having a track locally or even indoor and ride a stark or only get to a track a few tines a year hours away.....give me an ev.

[@tajjson]

I have had over 40 dirt bikes. Never had more fun than on the Stark Varg. Haven’t even ridden any of my ICE bikes since I got the Stark. Never met one person yet that tried the Stark and did not love it.

[@gregoryceddinger4313]

Can you imagine going to a Monster Truck event with E trucks? Drag boat, drag car race with e motors? E has a place in backyards as an entry level riding area. But as it stands, without the audio feedback, it’s not ever going to have the connection between speed that crowds come for.

[@user-se7vt5ow4e]

I ride a 300cc two stroke and wouldn’t trade it for anything but if the manufacturers don’t figure out a way to get the noise down we will have nowhere to ride.

[@bradsanders6954]

I have had a 300 XCW with the long FMF quiet muffler, and it was surprisingly quiet especially if you repack the muff as needed. Most dont do this, they want "the sound of power". People would say they didnt hear me come up behind them , I like a quiet bike, I can concentrate better on passing everyone. I ride in nor cal mountains, there is no one out there to hear us, but us.

[@charlesprice7608]

It’s not about the noise, that’s just an excuse. Your killing endangered species blah blah blah. The idea it will open up more riding areas is BS. You might get away with riding more places, but that a way different statement.

[@TacticalHamsterDance]

@@charlesprice7608 Police is never going to be everywhere, there is too few of them. If you count the number of policemen who actually care, it's even lower. However, they get a call, they have to handle it. So it's really other people, and do you think they care about endangered species?

[@charlesprice7608]

@@TacticalHamsterDance actually know they just can’t stand seeing someone else having a good time! I grew up on what was the edge of town. The police used to ask them, did you not see the track before you bought your house next to it.

[@TacticalHamsterDance]

@@charlesprice7608 I agree, sadly, many of them just don't care. "They are here now" and want things to happen according to their wishes.

[@russel419]

People that hate on EV bikes have never ridden a Stark. The Stark will last so much longer than the current 4 strokes so the extra initial cost is a wash.

[@Jeff-cv6jq]

I wanna hear motors smell race gas .

[@russel419]

@Jeff-cv6jq I want the fastest lap times

[@warewolven]

No regular joe consumer needs an electric, 90hp, $15,000 dirtbike to ride at a local track or trail. When went to 4 strokes, a TOP Guy in the industry said okay but just know its going to make racing more expensive and less bikes will be sold to consumers.

[@kurtheidelbach]

First off they aren’t 90 hp. Second, they aren’t 15K, Third even if they were 90hp they are fully adjustable. The “Top Guy” is a moron. It makes racing a ton cheaper at the 250 level. A privateer can’t even afford to compete at the 250 level

[@warewolven]

@kurtheidelbach 🤣🤣🤣🤣 okay it's 80hp, 14,000 out the door, go Google it. Top guy is one of the most successful guys in the history of the industry. I worked in the industry.

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

Are you saying that electric bikes are more expensive??? If so you are 100% wrong …… how much money does it take to build a competitive lites bike ? And how many times do you have to rebuild a 30k engine ? Electric bikes don’t need any mods , no ongoing rebuilds . No exhausts ecu’s etc . They cost 2k more than a stock 450 and you throw a pipe one one and the price is the same . I hit no idea wtf you are talking about

[@warewolven]

@Ozfreerider_adventures 🤣🤣 You said electric bikes aren't more expensive,...and then say they are $2000 more. There is no rider in the world that can even ride a 450 past the bikes capabilities, let alone a local rider so there is need to go to electric in an attempt for more performance. 4 strokes are more expensive than 2 stroke and electric is more expensive than 4 stroke. Again, no local guy will ever use the 80hp. 2 strokes are lighter, cheaper, easier to work on for regular folks. The switch to 4 strokes was a mistake, and the switch to electric will be too.

[@kurtheidelbach]

@ OK Grandpa. One of the biggest things people are afraid of and uneducated on is change. That is extremely prevalent in this sport one of the things that has made it lag behind so many others for years.

[@woodysrockspyro6436]

My neighbor rode one for less than an hour. Ordered one the next day. Electric is coming fast. People have tons of money. The utv market is going nuts and they cost more than cars.

[@mixalis6168]

My mate hss a Stark Varg, and loves riding his 2T then his 4T the Varg on days he wants it simple, and not need a clutch or gears !!

[@MrBumbles2]

dont forget too buy a generator or your time is limited

[@bradsanders6954]

"people have tons of money" A very subjective thing to say. Buying a Varg when it might do a 40 mile loop in the mountains,or not, and wont finish a 20 minute moto on a track? And is too heavy to be a race bike. Goofy novelty.

[@jetrep]

It seems that most of the naysayers have never actually tried a Stark or something similar.

[@MrBumbles2]

@@jetrep i have eb is cool but does nothing for my weekend poker runs can't haul a generator too.

[@Pompomgrenade]

Thank you, Ryan Hughes... Still truly the voice of hardcore 🤘 I want to hear the f****** engine🏁

[@JimG1964]

The sound of a 450 start is pretty spectacular.

[@Superfast502]

Evs are great as long as you pretend we don't get our electricity from coal plants..

[@denniswilder3014]

Mostly from hydro and nuclear. Some get it from coal plants but the majority is from other sources.

[@OtisFlint]

But we don't, so...

[@jetrep]

I suspect most Stark buyers don't like the bike for "green" reasons...they like it because it's an awesome bike.

[@FloydThomas-y5g]

2 Stroke's 4 Life Wick✊ON From Pioneer Tennessee 👋

[@craigmccall7450]

The roaring thunder of the HUNTING PARTY'S drum has been part of our DNA since the dawn.

[@jokermtb]

If they could come out with a high performance e-moto that cost $5-7K, the blenders might become very popular. You might even see a few more moto track locations pop up because of the lack of noise.

[@davezamora5343]

2 strokes forever!!!!

[@Motosportz]

Same whiny comments when the 4 strokes started filtering in (except people bitched they were too loud). Totally adjustable 80 hp, no clutch, no gears, super low maintenance costs and maintenance time. Everyone who rides them says its a game changer.

[@davebarlow6457]

I think all electric vehicles should be banned , we want to hear noise ! Motocross would be ridiculous from a spectator point of view if you take away the noise , to hear the tone of the engine and the gear changes is a must. Long live the internal combustion engine. P. S , 2 strokes sound even better !!!

[@isisbujon-ct2zw]

Love my ❤❤❤ Stark

[@ginaorsini3312]

I'M Keeping my trusty reliable going up in value every day CR500!

[@nickclarkuk]

As a spectator the noise does make a difference. I’d be very happy to ride electric though.

[@ddbb6721]

I have split lanes for hours at a time but after hours in dark cold wet weather I get Exhausted Montrey to San Diego

[@440hzguitar]

Somebody make a hybrid 125cc 2 stroke . Best of both worlds

[@brucedonovan2224]

What about Perris?

[@slagletoby]

All five human senses need to be at full-tilt redline at a moto race. If one of those senses are removed, the whole scene crumbles. -Abraham Lincoln

[@friendlywolfracing]

Stark Varg is the best bike I’ve ever ridden, and most people who’ve ridden one will say the same. I also love my crf450 and would never NOT have a gas bike. People need to get out of the mindset of “one or the other”. It’s one AND the other. Different experiences, both good in different ways. People need to open their minds and stop knee-jerk reacting. Electric bikes do nothing to hurt the sport.

[@bradsanders6954]

Watch Moto-Gp E bikes..................7 laps is their limit. 500lbs last I checked. The best high sides ever, better than Marquez. Obnoxious noise. The Pikes Peak E car..............the noise makes my teeth hurt. The cost is beyond insane. I dont wanna watch this crap, sorry. Stark Varg? On a sand track with a strong rider, it wont finish a 20 minute moto. Wtf hell? Too heavy by a chunk. A true novelty.

[@mixalis6168]

The sound is it all !!!! Not a bunch of blenders going around !!

[@KristofSX]

coz BRAAP is LIFE!

[@TheHypnotstCollector]

things are better up north. Oat Field, Lil' Oakie, Madera, Hang Town, Marysville, Tulare, Hanford, Hollister--sort of, More.

[@UTP_ENT]

And ?

[@CodyLambert-h9p]

Ducati is absolutely the foremost biggest news IN dirt bikes..... Their new motor barely revs at all and makes serious power everywhere with their new valve train system that is pneumatic......

[@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953]

FYI- Passenger cars produce about 15% of man made CO2. Switching to EVs WILL NOT reduce that number much (if at all). John Codogan has some very thorough videos on the topic. If you’re not an irrational REEEEEing EV zealot you’ll likely enjoy them and learn something. If you want an EV, fine. But it won’t make you a planet saver. 😂

[@TacticalHamsterDance]

It's not the government. People build houses, do not check where, move there, are surprised there is noise. They complain, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Try to make a new track, impossible - usually noise and dust. Other people have little understanding for us, although partly because there is so many loud haters, but it is clear: If you want to live with them, you either ride a quiet bike or don't ride at all. I don't understand the complaint about prices. Gas bikes are expensive too, 10k EUR is not an exception, electric cost how much more? 2k?

[@extremedf53]

LETS FACE IT, IF OUR SPIRT IS TO SURVIVE EV IS THE FUTURE. 😮

[@christophervillarreal8565]

1: all the bikes at 10-14k already 2: the stark is 11-12k except it comes with a 2 year warranty and you will never get that from a gas bike 3: one stark can make all the bike models currently out from 10hp-80hp with damn near infinite combination of engine braking with hp… 4: louder noises = less tracks plain and simple they get shut down 5: indoor tracks closer to home would be ideal af and electric literally opens that window up 6: maintenance is ridiculously low on electric making it infinitely better for slamming hours on drilling fundamentals vs slamming those hours on your race bike which ultimately will be worth 1/3 the price you got it for at 100 hours. At 3k for a complete motor rebuild you’re literally the same with a 3k battery replacement. 7: back yard tracks can become more popular and not get shut down by annoyed neighbors allow the common amateurs to train more giving them a chance to grow in the sport and make it vs never being able to compete because only rich people like Deegans who have multi million dollar compounds that train daily can compete at the highest level. 8: electric is just the future rejecting the possibilities instead of embracing them only slows down progress the same way religion fucked science and technology for hundreds of years if not thousands.

[@Naturestheway]

You are scary af. Totalitarian. Y'all want to control everyone, especially how they think, am i right?

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

Ryno should ride a varg and give his reaction …

[@jasonpakes]

he would hate it just like everyone else.. they way to expensive and they are shit in general. ENOUGH SAID!

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

@ so yeah don’t forgot to find those 3 videos and send me the links……

[@martysmith8657]

If I had crazy money I’d get an electric bike but as far as watching them race? No.

[@yomomma548]

Stark Varg gen 3 will make all gas powered bikes obsolete dirt biking will always go up in price

[@MrBumbles2]

yep like nhra top fuel using mufflers , the sounds of motosports are important. . ev cool but blah , can hear lots of klunking noise s and a hum boring

[@jervsn]

Electrical motor outperforms gas , battery is the issue

[@utubetrutharrowmichael-and9105]

With an EV bike I suppose when you experience thermal runaway from the lipo battery going kaboom it can't lock the doors and incinerate you in four of your friends

[@MichaelLyons-h4i]

No they came and now they're going going gone. And what do you do with an old worn-out e-bike? Do you think some kids going to be able to fix it up and ride it again? I don't think so

[@kungfu2toe]

Nobody over 50.... except biden can beat brown town.

[@michelcasanova9773]

As far as i.ma concern the Day they put motorsport all E i ll b done wth it md wont watch it no more E suck

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

No one will watch SX with electric bikes. Go check the attendance of FormulaE vs Formula1

[@rmxrider20032000]

Yes, you'll likely be able to still buy a gas powered bike. You'll just have no place to ride it.😮

[@cocopirata763]

eres una pistola rayan

[@r.l.sheldrake2109]

I'll laugh when I go by you and you never even heard me coming. Nobody should be listening to Ryan Hughes, his is BSC.

[@Spacetime_Odyssey7]

ALL YOU DO IS COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING. it’s kinda crazy, like you are jaded or something 🤫🧐🤔😒

[@vv5179]

I think they sound like sewing machines.

[@superfly3990]

I like Motocross and all, but the engines create a lot of damage to the environment. CO2 Greenhouse Gas is going to melt everything. So, at least in California, I think that both SX and MX will be All Electric. I believe that Kamila Harris will be Governor soon so these changes will happen rather quickly. To compensate for this though, at least the SX and MX riders, including Ryan "Know it All" Hughes, can enjoy free Tampons in the pits.

[@Jeff-cv6jq]

Screw E-bikes

[@JetSkiSuper7]

Will Stark survive this economic decline we are entering? My money says no.