2023 Honda CRF450R TESTED - Motocross Action Magazine

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Motocross Action tests the 2023 Honda CRF450R at Glen Helen Raceway. The 2023 isn't all new but does have revisions to the mapping, power, frame, and suspension. We give you the most detailed review the industry has to offer on every new motorcycle that releases. That includes the 2023 Honda CRF450R. Will the changes made bump it up in the pecking order? What are the dyno numbers in comparison to the 2022 model? What do we hate? What do we love? We answer all these questions and more in this video.
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[@morley3810]

I don't care how good it is...I'd buy one just to go out to the garage and look at it. What a beauty of a bike.

[@Davido50]

Agreed. Tho the Yamaha /Kawasaki/ Suzuki are equally beautiful!

[@levisalvini4110]

She is so pretty... I agree 💯 percent with you.

[@jamieargent7139]

I'll send you a pic of my Suzuki she a nice looking bike all my buddies and Brothe have 22 hondas yet everytime we stop people run to check out my 19 Rmz with a kick start and led light no battery she was in a photoshoot call her the photo he lol I crashed it a few times it's still nice tho and all over those Hondas

[@patrickrodriguez320]

It think the rmz takes the cake for aesthetics. With the aggressive plastic.the Yellow, blue, white look too good

[@loganransonet4303]

bro fr im not even tall enough

[@andrewmarshall360]

It does look sweet! Any new 450 has more than enough power for mere mortals . Except the other 2% which I happen to be, only problem is I’m in the bottom 2% .

[@drz22xx77]

i like MOOOOR POOOOOOWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@elcucuygarage]

Nice! 😂

[@moodyshooty]

the throwback edition is quite possibly the most beautiful 450 in existence.

[@Davido50]

Grab one. I don't like it at all be honest.

[@Davido50]

It's pretty but not my cup of tea.

[@jamesc6137]

I plan on buying this rig on looks alone. Reminds me of the early 80’s color way. I’ll be the one riding this with my son on the trails… I’ll be that guy.

[@hygrometer]

its perfect. the 450r was great with some mods in 2005, now its just great stock too

[@jedielder7970]

Thanks for the honest video. 57 horsepower should be plenty for 90% of the amateur's out there. If you are a top pro, you will be doing some modifications on your new showroom bike, anyway. I didn't hear anything really bad or that can't be fixed easily. Watching you ride, that bike does turn like a champ. It's beautiful and probably bullet proof, as most Honda's are. I look forward to see all the 450's and 250's go head to head in MA's shootouts. BTW, I love the look of the bike.

[@dennismillus4581]

To bad the Torque is so week. Maybe 35ftlbs. My Lawnmower has more than that

[@jedielder7970]

@@dennismillus4581 How much lower is that compared to other 450's in its class? I'm sure it's more than enough for me nowadays lol. Thanks for the reply.

[@dennismillus4581]

@@jedielder7970 the 450 4pukes have about 12 to 15ftbs less than a Stock CR500.

[@jedielder7970]

@@dennismillus4581 Oh, I used to ride a CR500... they are untamed beasts, lol, a real man's bike so to speak.

[@jedielder7970]

@@JetSkiSuper7 Oh, I totally agree with you... I've raced both and I would pick a 450 just about every time, for it it much easier to ride and stay fresher on.

[@browie316]

Since when do we refer to dyno hp as "faster" or "slower"? With that logic the most powerful bike will always be the fastest. 👎

[@microsoft790]

yeah seriously, its the torque curve that really makes the bikes faster or slower than the others. it isnt at all about peak numbers and it seems like the manufacturers are realizing that and making the motors more manageable.

[@eb972]

HP sells. Torque wins

[@bikersoncall]

I want to see torque and hp sheets, review the power band, manufacturers are scared to death to put out Dyno sheets, test results. So yeah, I agree, we don't just want to see what happens at 13k rpm, we want to see the dyno sheets.

[@buddysumner4022]

Not always

[@buddysumner4022]

I bet u anything if ktm or husky came out with less hp the mxa guys would say it’s faster, but everyone noes they are bought and payed buy ktm group,

[@joenobody2580]

Love the blue seat and gold rims

[@rochellestanley9532]

Love the 80’s livery 🤙🇺🇸

[@jetdr]

I love the look of the Bike, I wish they would all go back to the 80's look. I miss the Yellow yz's

[@chrisvozza6530]

I love the vintage look!

[@andy5786]

Thanks for bringing CRF 450 2023 nice bike motor cross action magazine 👍💯

[@jth_printed_designs]

What fuel are you running? Crap CA pump gas? If you're getting detonation in map 3, you're likely getting some in map 2 as well, and that's why your dyno numbers drop off with each more aggressive map. They're advancing the timing more to make more torque but if you advance the timing too much you actually lose torque and therefore lose power. Retest using race fuel and your detonation issues will likely go away. Also, your humidity in CA is likely lower than what the bike was tuned for, and with dry air you have to pull timing.

[@mxr248]

Funny you say you like the 3 map settings but last year or so I think it was you that said that you didn’t like the Yamaha and doing map adjustment cause it’s a waste of time! Lol funny thing is you go to rest and have plenty of time or pull off and it takes a couple of seconds. Plus the fact you can program 2 of them in it and later out others in it and save all of them on your phone. Huge difference in what you can do with their technology.

[@johnnyhopkins7297]

Josh is like anti Yamaha. He complains about it being so wide but tomac isn’t having the slightest issue

[@mxr248]

@@johnnyhopkins7297 ya also there have been other ppl that have measured it and there isn’t any difference.. My friend has the Kawasaki and jumped off his onto the Yamaha and he said he didn’t feel any difference. But after riding the Yamaha he wants one now. He said the power was better and longer, suspension was better and he loved how it handled..

[@2216sammy]

@@mxr248 Tell him to wait until October the new 2023 YZ450 will be available and that thing is lighter slimmer more powerful and with a much improved mapping app .

[@mxr248]

@@2216sammy I’m sure he will still complain cause he’s all about Ktm and it can be a complete piece of crap and he will say it’s great. Lol

[@kennyrichard2971]

Wow Beautiful bike Now imagine it with a two stroke 250 or 500

[@greggo7978]

Why on earth would a motorcycle manufacturer decrease the horsepower on a newer bike?This makes absolutely no sense,aspescially when others are Increasingly becoming lighter with the additional increase of the all important and crucial horse power. Well honda,you just became two ply.

[@AntiPattern328]

Glen Helen is probably the only place you can ride multiple bikes and tell a difference in HP.

[@Davido50]

California for life!!! 🇺🇸

[@mxrevival]

Suzuki mapping philosophy 😍 #Usability ~ Great edit, J-Mo & Fant Man 🔥

[@alpeters4857]

Love the look of the bike! Then again, I have a 87 CR500. That being said, it sounds like Honda has lost its way! I do appreciate an honest analysis though!

[@dennis-vl2nz]

Beautiful!!! A work of art,!! Aaaahhh...... Honda!!!

[@stevenrogers000]

a work of art! you just cant beat hondas.

[@herbcanter2114]

Sure you can .

[@rogershipman3578]

A 50th anniversary should have seen a limited edition full on works bike in these same colors. Honda AMA 450/250 Pro Motocross Champions 2004: Ricky Carmichael (CRF450R) 2003: Ricky Carmichael (CR250R) 2002: Ricky Carmichael (CR250R) 1995: Jeremy McGrath (CR250R) 1992: Jeff Stanton (CR250R) 1991: Jean-Michel Bayle (CR250R) 1990: Jeff Stanton (CR250R) 1989: Jeff Stanton (CR250R) 1987: Rick Johnson (CR250R) 1986: Rick Johnson (CR250R) 1983: David Bailey (RC250) 1982: Donnie Hansen (RC250) 1973: Gary Jones (RC250 Elsinore) Honda AMA 250/125 Motocross Champions 2021: Jett Lawrence (CRF250R) 2013: Eli Tomac (CRF250R) 2010: Trey Canard (CRF250R) 1996: Steve Lamson (CR125R) 1995: Steve Lamson (CR125R) 1994: Doug Henry (CR125R) 1989: Mike Kiedrowski (CR125R) 1988: George Holland (CR125R) 1987: Micky Dymond (CR125R) 1986: Micky Dymond (CR125R) 1985: Ron Lechien (RC125) 1983: Johnny O’Mara (RC125) 1975: Marty Smith (RC125) 1974: Marty Smith (RC125)

[@jedielder7970]

Oh yeah! Beautiful.

[@TheFastphill]

thanks that's a lot of champions

[@ZmannR2]

The new YZ450 is gonna slayyyyy

[@MXJEFF94]

It’ll be too loud, too big and too wide for MXA as always (even with a changed model this year).

[@onthethrottle7104]

@@MXJEFF94 Maybe for you...

[@ZmannR2]

@@MXJEFF94 lmao truth!!

[@bloomerb4162]

When they start getting too skinny I do find it harder to grip.

[@2216sammy]

@@MXJEFF94 Nope , it's perfection . It's going to kick major ass you watch.

[@motoxmatt]

Nice review Josh! keep up the great work!

[@keithpeterson6108]

Josh is the worst bike reviewing guy there is. Contradiction king.

[@craigmccall7450]

Glen Helen has a way of finding out if your setup sucks or not.... Thursday afternoons [especially] can have a couple bumps to test on. Good times!

[@ipoopmuffins]

this has always been the best color scheme/livery.

[@stevenniedermann3114]

Man i would love a 50th anniversary edition of the crf450rl. I hate black rims.

[@daviddewees6073]

Beautiful editing guys.

[@motorbike650]

Wow!..some great comments from some great chums!

[@86309]

great review!

[@jconstantine505]

So for any of us that bought a '22 do we get a remap since it was still dirty?

[@therusticcollectionebaysto7028]

New sub ! Liked

[@rockinrabbi]

At 11:16 he mentions "detonation" feel w the engine in Map3. What is that?

[@bagargui]

So what you are saying Josh is that the 2022 factory edition was identical to the 2023 model except that the WE had almost 4 extra hp.

[@AntiPattern328]

Wow! Engine mounts already rusty??? That doesn't make me feel good.

[@Davido50]

Hoping for improvements to '23 RMZ450 be honest. It's a gorgeous bike an good for 90% of us out here. Everyone knows Suzuki can build a fire breather if they want to!

[@mikestanly749]

Paint it red it might HELP??? 😂😂😂😂

[@Davido50]

@mike stanly Not a Honda guy. I would go KTM 450SXF for next new bike. Just hopin Suzuki comes out w/a killer new 450. They can do it.

[@johnmaratime6621]

He mentioned that the 2023 CRF 450 is considerably slower than last year. Does this effect top speed? I ride wide-open trails, so I am more concerned with higher speeds and maximum horsepower than I am with suspension and chassis adjustments.

[@stevepadilla9729]

This 450 looks lighter weight like a 250 looks great.

[@mountainmandale1587]

Nothing like dragging it out just to say a whole lot of not much. Jeez, getting paid by the word or something? Meh.

[@JayDeeFrm7400]

the Lucas Oil/factory look gives me early 2000’s vibe

[@hygrometer]

it looks great

[@jamieargent7139]

Very nice bike

[@djmiller5563]

Honda fan boy here; it pains me to know that the worlds largest motorcycle manufacturer, with the biggest R&D budget, cannot even duplicate what they made 13 years ago...makes no sense at all. Gotta win more than just the beauty pageant.

[@timothykamholz7222]

Why is it such a big company as Honda, they cannot produce a bike with great suspension. I just don't get it. It's always the same complaint year after year. SMH.

[@S0RELOSER]

Because their marketing department has a huge say in how the bike is setup so it has a certain look on the showroom floor. Sounds crazy i know. But it’s true.

[@timothykamholz7222]

@@S0RELOSER This makes no sense. Bike could still look same with proper spring rates, and valving.

[@S0RELOSER]

@@timothykamholz7222 a softer spring with stinkbug will feel too wallowy when customers sit on the bike. They want it tall in the rear and to feel stiff. I doesnt have to make sense to you or me. It only has to make sense to Honda’s marketing department. They have final say over R&D.

[@jonphotos8631]

Same story as always frames to stiff suspension sucks. O and I can pay 10k so I can blow the motor cause of the ’click’

[@chrisalamangos140]

American Honda should rehire Dave Arnold to build a perfect Honda .

[@FMFx23]

I’m torn on this or the gasgas

[@kochj0713]

All we have in MN is nothing but HARD sharp bumps.

[@chrischrestensen3885]

Gets old MXA. Never satisfied. Job t sure why they even give you bikes to test.

[@branw341]

Man all these tests sounds good but why does my 2022 feel better then the 2023 lol stock vs stock weird u were like stay away from map 3 lol ima use the he'll out of map 3 now just to bring it back to honda good thing my hr meters say KTM lol 😆 🤣 but it's all good u gotta be a rider an mechanic now doesn't bother me anyone can win Lorettas 😉 RIP Loretta Lynn crazy I remember alot about amateur racing and Darren Walsh might start racing again have fun 2024 ;)

[@jacobwestcott4536]

By the end of this video i needed a box of tissues, the music was just so moving……

[@ba946x4]

Why not do a factory edition?

[@MitchConner509]

Hondas are the new bike Kyles are trading their quads in on and driving around with in the back of their lifted short bed truck. They want the dual pipes back, twice as much power at least.

[@Kyle-pl6rl]

Me and my homies kiss in the bro-dozer

[@MitchConner509]

@@Kyle-pl6rl best reply of 2022 well done

[@dg1019]

Oh no you dint!! Lol

[@1176hambone]

Would higher octane correct the detonation in map 3?

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Run race gas all the time and dont worry about it.

[@herbertpinheiro6616]

Coisa fina

[@rockyesterline7942]

My new 2022 CRF 450 RL rides as stiff as a mini bike with no suspension or a covered wagon do not ever ever take that off road I put $4,000 of upgrades in it already had $900 of work done to the suspension hardly helped at all s t i f f as a 2x4 but great on the street and my new pipe and ECU and Supercross tires low mirrors other than that it looks great and also got the hell rid of that back license plate that hangs down to the street hopefully the shop that did my suspension will do it all over again revolve it again and Springs

[@kokoromotomo6504]

Cool...

[@bloomerb4162]

Big dyno numbers to another channel I watch. Sure there is variation from dyno to dyno of course. If your not close to the stock weight for suspension, then it's never probably going to feel good.

[@craig8037]

😎 cool

[@pr00shit]

Engine mounts changed from aluminum to rust

[@bloomerb4162]

They come pre rusted for added flex.

[@chrischrestensen3885]

Just add Krylon in a titanium color -- LOL

[@cbry2555]

WoW hydro-static planetary automatic transmission .With the buoyacy emulator claim at your closest ama race !

[@bknoxx]

i always wondered why you put graphics on test bikes ?? just bought a '22 yz but this new bike inspired me to sale my 05 yz250 i just finished 6k if anyone wants it lol... to build an 03-06 CR250 or 125 like this

[@bloomerb4162]

It better be completely rebuilt, crank, bearings seals. All new bearings chassis, freshened up suspension.

[@bknoxx]

@@bloomerb4162 its on my IG same name go check it out.. lets see your ride homie

[@bloomerb4162]

@@bknoxx 2017 tc250 with 300 kit. 2022 150sx and tc 250. I don't do social media outside yt. Selling the tc 300 though.

[@bknoxx]

@@bloomerb4162 nice.. I’d like to have a 150 that seems like a fun bike

[@bloomerb4162]

@@bknoxx yeah I heard so much about how fun they are. Hands down funnest bike I've ever rode. It's so light and the power is just enough. The power feels like you can't really get into trouble on it and doesn't wear you out. The 300 might be too much for my skill level. It feels like a tractor compared to 250, quite a bit more power.

[@jpslayermayor9293]

Detonation on a $10k new motorcycle? That shouldnt happen at a modern company like Honda.

[@bonnieclass]

❤️🇺🇸

[@kenharris8743]

Why did he have to diss two strokes if two strokes were still around they blow away four strokes with the modern snowmobile technology

[@nativeamerican7424]

We need 2 strokes n kick starts 🥺

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

People who like winning.

[@caydenthompson126]

2nd worst bike

[@amanteapasionado6836]

I don't really like it, now if they would have made a replica of the original with a 2 stroke motor than maybe it would be an alright. But being a bike lover, I'd rip it.

[@dennismillus4581]

In other words it's a Perfect Chassi for a CR500AF build. It's funny you never mention how lame the Torque Power is... It's time to contact Aj Waggoner at Built500af.. you guys know you will loose brownie points from Honda and or All brands. If you actually made an Honest Video. Telling the Truth of how slow these 450 4pukes are.

[@ryanmalec4234]

What kind of bike do u got?

[@dennismillus4581]

@@ryanmalec4234 I purchased a 2010 Service Honda CR500AF brand new from Service Honda. 2010.. I have owned a total of four CR500'S. 3 steelies as well as my AF.

[@ryanmalec4234]

That's cool..I have a 2001 kx 500 for 21years..and my 2022 cfr450r is faster then it..not to mention the cr 500's that I have raced

[@ryanmalec4234]

For u to say crf450r's r slow..is straight ass talking!!!!

[@dennismillus4581]

@@ryanmalec4234 your ass comment is Proof you never rode a 500cc two stroke. Hell you probably never seen one.

[@adamlitler9677]

Some nice rust already showing through on the engine mounts and rear shock main body 😜 makes me want to go out and buy a Honda right now

[@mark8931]

bella...ma serve un monocilindro a 2 tempi al posto del 4

[@Garcia.offroad]

Estaría genial pero matriculada así no genera muchas ventas

[@xipingpooh5783]

Bold New Graphics😴💤

[@FamilyMXTV]

Let me know what you think of my built 2023 CRF450R on my channel! Would love the feedback! 🤘

[@dennismillus4581]

Yet again Honda of Japan makes us realize. We will never be truly happy with the power until they correct thier mistakes. Which just happens to be in thier faces. You can see it in the expressions from the designers and all those who ride it. Yup, they see CR500 Two Stroke. They dream of the CR500AF....

[@eliassantana45]

A dinheiro meu Deus 😏😏😏😏😌😢😥

[@bikersoncall]

Give me adjustable valves Honda.

[@MikeAsbury-ti2yx]

Get rid of music this is not a radio station let's here bikes less talking

[@gregducati999]

make a 2stroke honda, 2 strokes are KTM's biggest sellers.

[@ni212]

🇮🇩🙋‍♂🙏Done

[@Diggymc1]

them plastics are not 80s dont care what anyone says

[@dennismillus4581]

🐢 🐢 🐢

[@robsonsantos9971]

✌😎🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@Blueovalnation]

Junk

[@davidgledhilljr71]

WOW! THAT LOOKS SICK! SLAP A CR250 MOTOR IN THAT ABD PERFECT. HONDA MAKE THE CR250 AGAIN FOR GOD SAKES ENOUGH WITH THESE TRANS DIRT BIKES. FOUR STROKES. LOL.

[@ronaldtravis970]

Give us a Two Stroke . None of those color changes are a big deal.

[@แลมโบกินี่]

นัวรัฐ47

[@dustin9035]

It's Sexy AF!

[@GarbageDanks]

Sounds like a turd. Bring back the 2 strokes Honda!

[@hallbossindustries1820]

Not sure how I feel about the sissy background music.

[@mototrials582]

How about the motorcycle? Are you unsure of that as well? Maybe there is a different website you can go to that discusses your musical preferences

[@hallbossindustries1820]

@@mototrials582 calm down son.

[@Getman43]

@@mototrials582 its called "comments" for a reason. people "comment" (theres that word again) their preferences about the video.

[@keithpeterson6108]

I definitely know how I feel about this sissy music....it sucks. So does MXA & this douche reviewing the bike.

[@amacoutdoors2076]

I know I am in the minority, but I think it's ugly.

[@mikestanly749]

RIDE RED

[@marquinhosmotocross9021]

#18🇧🇷😍✊🔥🚀.

[@matthewtoes6433]

KTM 350 f has more power why up date something and make it worse Or not as good detonation shouldn't Happen on a bike that costs as much as that one Honda has lost there edge over the competition

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Nah, I'll stay with my CR500 thats still faster.

[@robbierolly453]

Nice but the gas gas looks sick

[@StandlyRichards25]

You lost me at the price 🤣

[@michaelscholtz9]

Ruined the video we want to hear the bike not you talking the whole time