Motocross Action's 2022 450 Shootout

[@enacku]

I'm just waiting for the day that Suzuki gets 2nd to last, it's gonna happen in my lifetime I know it.

[@featheredindian]

Lol, true, but one thing that Suzuki have is a bike suited to a larger rider, I raced them for years because of that exact reason. They are softer all round though, as in the hardware, nuts and bolts, gears, and just in general.but I feel any person at a lower level than an A rider just can’t tell the difference between most of these bikes. Just my opinion. But yes they will be last next year😂😂 not too sure if this is true, but aren’t Suzuki, Kawasaki, and honda coming together as one to develop the electric bike for 2028?

[@psychosneighbor1509]

I bought the 2018 RM-Z 450 which means I still have a brand new bike! lol

[@jeredalmeida1880]

It'll happen when Yugo gets resurrected and builds a bike through Fiat's R&D team.

[@mikeandrews1899]

Man , when I first raced my '77 RM100 , Suzuki was a kick ass motorcycle ... .. and Husqvarna and KTM sucked and was going out of business 🤔

[@ColeCrapo]

No its not they are too bad

[@Davido50]

MXA is indeed the "GOAT" of magazines, testing, advice & articles. Best of best in my opinion👍. Been reading their mag since late 80s. Keep up the great work for us MX addicts! #KTM #Yamaha #Maxima

[@harleyrider9640]

I really like the gas-gas..I'm thinking about getting a mc250 2-stroke because I can actually maintain one without going broke.

[@janainasousa1889]

Uqol Loppp

[@Davido50]

Get a new bike! Nothing more fun. Both 2-stroke & 4-stroke are awesome. I own both. My newer machines tho are ALL 4-stroke ..they hold there value & romp all others @ my local track. -Ohio

[@joslinnick]

4-strokes are great, but god help you once you start having engine problems. Once my RMZ450 started requiring frequent valve adjustments, the problems never stopped. I'm happily riding a TC125 now.

[@American_Enigma]

Great job with the shootout! I was struggling between the FC450 and the YZF450 recently and ultimately pulled the trigger on the Yamaha. I have primarily ridden Austrian bikes since 2016, with the exception of my 2019 CRF450r (classic case of it's the right bike for some but it wasn't for me. I couldn't stand the suspension on the Honda...loved the motor though). I love the lowered suspension on the FC, as motocross bikes have gotten too tall, which definitely makes it feel more nimble in the corner. I had always thought the ergos and handling of the YZ450f wouldn't suit my style...and then I rode the bike. I love the motor, power tuner app. and the KYB suspension is the best stock setup money can buy and it corners so much better than people give it credit for. I run the sag at 103 and front fork height at 5mm (I actually like the handle bars in the forward mounts as well) and because the bike is so planted and comes into a corner with unrivaled stability, I actually end up cornering faster than I did on my previous Husqvarna...which was hard for me to wrap my head around. I also love how easy the setup is and I don't have to mess with air forks anymore. I have to do the WP Pro Conversion kits (cone valve) on my Husqvarna/KTM models to achieve a similar high quality feel and even then I still like the KYB more. Needless to say, I'm very impressed with the Yamaha.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

I have always stuck with the Yamaha, always have and always will. Everything else just feels generic to me. Sloppy and not as tight tolerance wise. I’m a CNC machinist so notice the quality in the workmanship more than most. I feel it even more on their street bikes. The Yamahas just feel as though every piece on the bike has been manufactured at a tighter tolerance than everything else. The only one that I’ve felt compares is the Honda. The KTM I’d never even consider after seeing others have issues getting parts for there 4 to 5 year old bikes. I don’t buy a new bike every year. At best I may update every 4 but since I ride the YZ 250 I’ve not needed to update since 06!! I do have a 2013 though and don’t see buying another unless Yamaha makes a totally all new YZ250. Now that would be awesome and very possible being they just did a new 125.

[@jackbrown7787]

I bought the 2021 and I love it. It does feel big at a stand still but once you get going it does everything you want it to do I never once felt fatigued from anything that wasn't my own fault. Yamaha nailed it with these

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

@@jackbrown7787 no doubt plus you add in the fact that they are well known as the most reliable, and most power as well. It’s all a win win situation.

[@jonathondavis170]

@@jacobhendrickson8935 Why wouldn't you want to get the updated 2022 YZ250??? Every magazine has had fascinating results with lap times on the updated YZ250 because of updated suspension, chassis, and airbox/air induction! They kept that low-end grunt character but boosted power, feel, agility, and stability. :) I'd say totally wait a year or two, but if not seen by then just purchase this newest version of the YZ250 and rock it!!! It's an amazing and fun machine! Then purchase the new BRC YZM500 engine for it, and drop it in that chassis! 👌 Then you got 60+HP and 50+ ft-lbs of torque!!! Not to mention you can get all kinds of upgrades like Hygge Works Cone Pipe, CDI and map selector switch, decompression switch, high compression cylinder head, port & polish etc. And the engine can be fully rebuilt using CR500 parts! And did I mention this engine is less than $7k USD, and counter-balanced with a triple-blade power-valve!!????? lol Also everyone forgets the performance and reliability of the Italian TM Racing off-road motorcycle manufacturer! I've owned Suzuki, Honda, Husqvarna, Yamaha, and now my TM Racing EN300ES 2 stroke and this is hands-down one of the best machines I've ever had, and I've owned Yamaha, Husqvarna, & TM since 2016 - all brand new off the showroom floor, and all engine, chassis, and suspension modified. These bikes are so phenomenal that I'm even thinking of saving for their new 2022+ MX450Fi to add to my 300cc 2 stroke. But Honda & Yamaha always have a hold on me - it's almost family tradition with these two brands, as that's what my father and brothers all own, as well as the rest of our family. :) It truly is a great time to be riding!

[@jackbrown7787]

@@jonathondavis170 I originally wanted a 2 stroke but I'm tired of kicking bikes I the yz250 would have came with an e start I would have gotten it. I'm a bit older so I'm sure it wouldn't matter for a younger guy

[@kananisA75]

Guys I love your videos but you keep having the same problem in your edits, the sound level of the bikes and the music is way too high compared to the sound level of your voice, the result is a video that you have to always change the Volume. Just my 2 cents.

[@motocrossaction]

Sorry if its not working for you. All speakers and output are different on computer/cell phone/tv plus KZbin compression. It is balanced when it leaves our hands to the best we can. Sometimes that varies on device. We will try to get it closer for you

[@JamieFleuret]

@@motocrossaction what about sidechain compressing the music and bike audio to voice? should make it easier to hear :)

[@weekendwarrior6285]

Haha you munters sneakily try not to look biased toward KTM yet you won't list a single flaw for the bike as opposed to 5-10 flaws for every other bike. and yes the KTM has its flaws, we have 2 in our stables.

[@powerfail2695]

KTM Action magazine, 😂 all year long the same

[@dekancaine]

Get what u like and make it urs. They all have their ups and downs. I got the 22 crf450 and I love it. Did gold valves. Thing is sweet. Rode the kawi and ktm before I made my purchase. I’m happy with it

[@Olsson229]

I did buy crf450 2022 before i tested it. And i love it!

[@Davido50]

I'm ridin /racin a '22 KTM for next 2yrs. I buy a new bike every 2yrs. My issue w/Honda is very little race support overall it seems. Can't support that . I'm huge MX fan!

[@Davido50]

Enjoy Bro! Run Maxima *full synthetic* 10w40/10w50 *after* break-in & engine will last longer. Guaranteed! OEM filters a must.

[@Davido50]

@@Olsson229 Glad you like it ..it looks sweet ..but you might've liked a new KTM or Gas Gas/Husky MUCH better. Austria is on top by FAR in MX. Hands dwn. No comparison.

[@Olsson229]

@@Davido50 u mean 2022.5/2023? Yeah, i think i would like it also. But gonna runt this honda for 2 years now and Who knows, mabye its a ktm in The garage in 2023

[@barnescycle]

Drop that 250 shootout guys. MXA all the way 🤜

[@motocrossaction]

We are working on it. Just taking out time.

[@barnescycle]

Quality options are worth the wait. I have the 2022 Honda but I know what a tough field of competition that there is. Just wish mine was sprung for 200lb chubby vet 😂

[@joshmosiman1955]

Travis you killed it on this video! Great job! The stage shots came out so sick.

[@Davido50]

He rocks! MXA #1.

[@thomaskight4620]

Yeah that FC450 you can have it. My engine blew it 22 hours with 18 oil changes and filters. Carbon fiber subframe cracked in half my linkage cracked that's made out of carbon fiber and my front axle broke during a race. Too thin and too hard up front. Just sold it thank God. Picked up the 2022 YZ450F. Love the taller seat and power delivery.

[@StrykerV8]

An oil change every hour? 😳

[@mountainmonkey172]

@@StrykerV8 😂

[@avitferdiansyah1792]

i think the bullet prof engine is not bullshit 😂

[@TonyRidesDirtbikes]

Bullshit

[@peaceprayer595]

@@StrykerV8 my friend put an oil filter in backwards once too. Funny thing is, amount of hours becomes irrelevant...she'll blow. Never personally knew a front axle to broke b4 the wheel would blow up.

[@StrykerV8]

Love my 2020 60+ hp crf monster!!

[@spacejaime]

Best filming and editing by MXA, ever. The ultra short take @8.07- to -8:10 above G.H. hill is worth a million bucks! Too short for many to appreciate. Awesome video ! Thanks. 👍

[@brandoneliasson]

Really like the new Yamahas nice job adding all that blue looks great.

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

Best bargain bike Suzuki? You have to be kidding ? They aren’t even much cheaper. Than a Yamaha and have lost every shootout known to man for years now , that’s not a bargain !7th placed bike for 95 % of the cost of other bikes

[@Yamahariderr31]

You do realise that even coming in last place its still an exceptionally capable bike that often has massive rebates at dealers so there is plenty room for the basic aftermarket parts that the majority of people will do to their bike anyways, which often can close the gap to others for the same $, while getting all the great attributes that Suzuki's are known for

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

@@Yamahariderr31 do you realise that you have to kick start it !!! That’s worth 1000 dollars extra right there . And how is the resale on a bike that you have to kick in 2021? Good luck getting good money for one to sell

[@jimbeaux89]

I FINALLY got my very first bike 6 months ago, at the age of 32. I didn’t want to get anything crazy, and it had to be budget friendly (for the wife, of course). I got me an SSR 189, which fit my needs perfectly. I’ve got about 15 hours under my belt, and am already looking forward to my next bike, which will probably be a KX. Idk if I would get me a 450, so it’ll probably be a KX 250. Maybe an SX. Idk all these bikes are so damn good. I definitely jumped into the world of riding at just the right time.

[@CycleCruza]

I can attest to the bullet proof reliability of the Yamaha. I made a street-legal 2019 YZ450FX supermoto back in 2018 and still have yet to even check the valves or do a top end on my bike and ir rides better than it did new. All I did was change the oil every 8-10 hrs, air filter twice and clean/lube the chain. I haven't even had to adjust the chain! I rip the hell out of this bike on the streets and even rip it on the highway and I have not had a problem. It gets 42 MPG avg with all street riding. Yamaha is #1 to me, I love all of their bikes. I used to be a Honda fanboy.

[@TeoZMuff313]

The best reviews in the industry hands down

[@MatthewC137]

Not even close.

[@livefreeandshred9818]

No wonder why Suzuki doesn't give anyone bikes for tests. Also funny that the cheapest bike got last and the most expensive bike won.

[@mxvssm8780]

Suzuki is for man…no electronic no problem😎😂

[@bradpowell843]

I’m 6’4” and hate the lowered suspension on the Husky, the KTM works better for tall guys. I can see shorter guys liking the lowered suspension. The Honda with a re valve is an entirely different bike.

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

You ain't feeling 10mm, the lowering helps with cornering. It's not ment to aid with the height challenged. The thickness of a pencil aint helping anyone. It's a gross reference all the shootouts are missing the point on. The Husky tracks way better than the KTM and Gas Gas. Smoother is better, most Pro riders are complaining about bikes having too much power. Like the 19 Honda.

[@jeffwarrack9059]

Funny how the Husky won again when ALL the other shootouts by different magazines nobody picked it 1st, or even 2nd and had major issues with handling and suspension. Cause of the lowered suspension, it sits to low in the stroke. WTF don't believe me check out the other shootouts!

[@ryanxmx31]

I think it depends on rider height tall guys seem to hate the husky

[@Davido50]

Get Yamaha or KTM they best bikes in shoot out. I rode a bunch luckily as my buds here in Ohio are hardcore MX guys & buy lots new bikes every yr!

[@Jake_Hynds]

bribed test riders lol

[@peaceprayer595]

All the other magazines ride the bikes for a few days at most. MXA just raced these things for seven months. They also don't get paid or take free bikes or free trip to Japan from the manufacturers for picking their bike as the best. I van buy any bike I want. The husky is the best bike I've ever ridden for all the reasons stated here plus more.

[@beverywhereyouare]

Husky rocks ... all others SUCK !

[@gregmulfort9577]

Taking production to a new level. Pretty cool, I appreciate it. Good content too

[@mccaingriffith5543]

Y’all should do a factory/race edition 450 shootout

[@jetdr]

Yamaha makes the best over all Bikes, always have. I have had KTM and Honda, both good but can't touch a Yamaha. my 2009 yz250 still runs like it was brand New.. Poor Suzuki, I remember a time when they were so good. Yamaha had to build their last few Years of 2 stroke they were so bad. Soon as Dungey left they fell flat. I do like the New Husky, sorry the New KTM in White.

[@togepi21]

22:40 Wonder if the cooling issues are the same as the previous generation... Shame to hear haven’t heard much about that on the new ones until now.

[@blakebennett8642]

Dude wtf this is like a movie hahah so cool

[@motocrossaction]

That was our goal!

[@stickvortex]

I like how the main complaint about the Yamaha is that it’s too loud lmao. Not really performance related but I guess it’s worth pointing out.

[@quentinruggles5494]

Just got an mc450. 2023. Put the map switch on, opened air box, cut the stupid cone out of the muffler (much louder ) and you got a ktm basically.

[@brandonhaupt7836]

How did you Basically Call the Kawasaki Dog Water, Garbage and Trash, but then put it before Honda, the Pros Bike Pick 🤣

[@stringbender247]

You can tell that MXA 100% makes up things that are BS pertaining to the Japanese bikes because no other magazine test say anything like they do and neither does anyone on forums plus MXA is never going to say anything but praise for the Austrian bikes even if they weren't good, especially Mosiman who should wake up everyday call and thank everyone at MXA for having a job.

[@125kingo125]

Mate the US mags had always hated on the Euro bikes. The fact is now they are a class above and good on Mxa letting us know.

[@ryanxmx31]

Glad you guys are consistent from last year alot of other guys put the yamaha in front and it never changed much from last year

[@mikemitchell9877]

4th and 6th in the other two shootouts that are out but MXA has the Husky not only the 450 winner but bike of the year. Crazy how they praise the lower ride and how well the suspension works and others say it doesn't work well at all. Oh well it's cool to get all the different opinions and decide for yourself

[@motocrossaction]

We don't do one day tests or one day shootouts. That is the major difference. A lot of media only get the bike one day and turn it in. We race all 7 of these bikes over a long period of time. We don't rush the shootout to be first either.

[@HobosCanFly]

Why do you care about what bike wins a shootout anyways. Just because a bike wins a shootout doesn't mean it will fit your riding style. The whole point is to take the info about the characteristics of each bike in order to make an informed decision for YOU.

[@mxr248]

Cause if you notice they seem to out down Japan bikes. They also make it sound like the Yamaha is soooo big when other platforms did what I did measure across and there is no big difference it’s more visual cause of the air box on the Yamaha instead of a gas cap! Also look up wet weight the Honda is only 2 pounds lighter and same with Kawasaki there is only a pound or 2 difference between all jap bikes. Lol Yamaha won the shootout in other platforms. Also everyone I’ve talked to hates the air forks after riding other bikes they beat you up.

[@mikemitchell9877]

@@HobosCanFly I don't care and read my last sentence.

[@HobosCanFly]

@@mikemitchell9877 if you don't care then why make the comment pointing out the discrepancy in results?

[@marcusbarnes5929]

Music and footage 💪👍👍👍

[@thomaswayneward]

I like the honesty of this review.

[@Wreckhouse69]

Oh Suzuki i remember when literally their 2t 125,250 and 4t 250,450 were the best bikes by far. They could easily get there again in one season of serious revamps. Bring back an improved 2015 frame , add 3-5hp, strip 5-10lbs i promise this will be best bike of the year . No bike is as fast on a pro mx track as a dialed in Suzuki guaranteed

[@Lancealittle33]

Great piece. and the Music was awesome!

[@samoliverio7455]

Yk this list is good when the Yamaha isn't overhyped to all hell. Good job not being mindless drones MXA 👍

[@jkell411]

Give me a break...

[@samoliverio7455]

@@jkell411 bro the Yamaha is heavy as hell and ergonomically trash, tf you mean

[@jkell411]

Some people might not like it, but that doesn't make it "trash." It's just different. And do you really think the other platforms are paid to lie??? I'm a KTM guy and still find it weird that they always do so well on MXA compared to the other outlets.

[@samoliverio7455]

@@jkell411 and I find it funny how Yamaha does so well on other outlets, they're all somewhat guilty of it, what's your point? I just find it ironic it gets shit on in races for years and a little smig of success and it's the greatest bike of all time

[@jkell411]

Didn't it win shootouts before last year? I don't think you know what you're talking about. You clearly just don't like Yamaha and that is fine. Just keep riding, bro.

[@dennismillus4581]

The Hardest decision of would be. To pick the best chassi to put my CR500 motor into.

[@JohnHowerton137]

Not surprised by these results at all. Funny all the people chiming in about “working man’s bike” when trying to bag on the Austrians. A lot of weekend warriors ride these things off-road, not just track. The overheating issues on many of the Japanese bikes are hardly a secret. The new Hondas are pretty, but the Japanese have a long way to go if they ever want my money again. Sometimes it seems like they aren’t even trying. R&D teams just seem too far removed from production. 25 years later we’re still trying to make these Aluminum chassis work? 🤣 Josh races a stock KTM at a national. Throw a grand + at the Japanese bikes if you want to do that.

[@vonlitto]

It really is sad to see Suzuki falling behind, they use to be one of the best bikes back in the day, their 2 strokes were the best and the early years of rmzs 08-14 did amazing too! Then the r and d department, I'm assuming lost funding.

[@peaceprayer595]

I feel your Yellow pain. I spent more time trying to get my last two rmz450s to work. They feel like their on the very of crashing the minute the track gets ruff and you wind it up to third and fourth gear.

[@scottc4433]

It is a shame they make very reliable and serviceable machines as well

[@Kawiboy]

Now that's an INTRO 👊.. BOOM! KUDOS MXA OLD G 😉

[@tannervansickle9160]

As someone who rides a 21 KX250 (same plastics and frame as the 450), I had to laugh at the "most likely bolt to strip out" comment. That 8mm bolt holding on the side panels is one of the very few on my bike that HASN'T come out on its own or needed replaced.

[@chazzgonzalez1356]

I felt the frame on the KTM more rigid than my Yz450f. A lot of testing for y’all must have been done but I don’t like the frame/suspension combo on the KTM

[@125kingo125]

Ktm frames are so forgiving mate..

[@chazzgonzalez1356]

@@125kingo125 from my experience my buddys 2021 Rockstar edition made me feel like I wanted to break my ankles and wrist over jumping something by maybe 5 feet

[@125kingo125]

@@chazzgonzalez1356 strange

[@sirjizzalot]

Yall know yamaha and honda are the best In real world riding...

[@jacobnelander8764]

What is the actual reason that the crf is the best pro bike? Just removing bad parts couldn't be the reason.. Looks and whips 😋 but not enough Thanks for solid testing 👌

[@dtrim7450]

HONDA😎👍🏻

[@billbutler2533]

love you guys doin this keepit up

[@matteosss]

Where is Fantic XXF 450????????

[@user-gabriel90]

I had been riding since I was a kid and was a vet rider but it’s been ten years since I’ve risen and even longer since I had my own bikes band rode alnost every day my ex wife wanted me to get rid of my bikes when my daughter was born I always thought I would get back into it but I never imagined how long I was caught up w work , mortgage and everything else my daughter is 22 now and I’ve been thinking a lot about riding and reminiscing it’s such a stress reliever when you are riding your focused on just riding . I would like a bike for single track use mostly but a bike I can also take to the motocross track as well I will be fifty in a month so I’m going to take it easy at first because I’m not going to bounce right up like i used to after a crash

[@da5863]

Nice video, 125 shootout coming?

[@Driver599]

Don't exclude TM Racing in future test, otherwise concise review.

[@hencetirta7633]

I lov rmz

[@motocrossaction]

I lot of people still love that bike.

[@hencetirta7633]

thnx . bro . . Suzuki . somthing difrnt

[@jeffsaverio]

Time to learn how alloy frames can work before saying silly things about rigidity.

[@chupacabraracing181]

Suzuki might be last in the shootout, but it's never last on race day. Might not be first, but not last. And I love my 19 RMZ 450. Probably going with the kx450sr this spring tho

[@WTF-sh4is]

This was all the same feedback/opinions from the 2021 shootout. What’s the summary list of new things on the bikes from last year? None?

[@wesleywheeler7891]

Suzuki is the easy choice for me. Most affordable, reliable, I like the powercurve.

[@keonemacaranas7241]

Best shoot out so far 👍👊

[@motocrossaction]

Thanks for watching!

[@alanguiver3983]

At the end of the day if anyone picks a bike based on what anyone else thinks isnt getting the right bike. Pick you colour and go have fun.

[@derekdreke4990]

All this money and no one gets a skid plate 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Corteum]

They all need to bring out a 450 2t. The 2t will have more peak hp and be lighter and more agile than the 4t, but the 4t will in general be easier to ride and have a broader power delivery

[@joearcuri1007]

Like the WP suspension must be a west coast thing. Anybody I know that buys these bikes and seen on East coast the first thing they do is conversion kit on suspension .

[@SHOWTIME070]

Kawasaki is my number 1 period with yamaha in close second

[@mxlife958]

Honda the Best...😍😍

[@thinkandrepent3175]

Always has been

[@mxlife958]

@@thinkandrepent3175 yes....👍🏻 Honda forever...😍👌🏻👍🏻😉

[@blacksmokematters4521]

I'll stick with my old school 250rs these prices on these new atvs and side by sides and cycles just over priced not worth it

[@siyz250]

Great analysis guys. I like how you break down what bike is best for "Vet, Pro, Working Class". Definitely gives more insight into the bikes pros and cons. Si, Christchurch, New Zealand.

[@jeffwarrack9059]

Also on the mxa website: Kawasaki vs Yamaha 2021 "In short, the KX450 is a much more pleasant bike bike to spend time on, once you fix a few suspension, brake and set-up flaws. However, the Yamaha is considerably faster, more reliable and better suspended-and if you race motocross, those positive YZ450 traits pay bigger dividends than the KX450’s pleasant demeanor. Thus, we’d rather ride the 2021 Kawasaki KX450, but we’d rather race the 2021 Yamaha YZ450F. " Then why does the Kawasaki finish ahead of the Yamaha? 😵‍💫 I get shootouts are subjective, and would have accepted the fact that anything other than Honda, Suzuki, or husky finished first.

[@Davido50]

Yamaha & KTM #1. Period. Summed it up 4ya. Can't go wrong . Spend wisely. This is wise!

[@Jake_Hynds]

honestly man they are all amazing bikes anyone would be extremely happy with any of these. its like comparing a Ferrari to a Lamborghini

[@adamrochester1]

This is interesting I am coming of a yzf450 21 model was to much for me and I didn’t feel comfy I’m 6,1 and 110kg. Was thinking ktm or kx thoughts ? And is it worth waiting for the 23 models

[@jeffwarrack9059]

@@adamrochester1 Do you like what the magazines are saying about the KTM? If so then I would say yes. If you want the latest tech from. KTM then get the new bike. Usually with new models there not as refined and get better. The old model is the best version of it from KTM. Either way you'll get a good bike. 👍 Kawasaki is also a good bike again do you like what the magazine are saying about it? You'll probably need stiffer fork springs. Kawasaki may or not change anything for next year.

[@adamrochester1]

@@jeffwarrack9059 yeh 22 ktm sounds like my money I think with some suspension done to her for sure But just wondering what would feel comfy for my height and weight lol. People say kx is taller but I want smooth riding feel easy handling

[@xd_gangster693]

it appears suzuki has given up if they dont even respond to shootout stuff

[@motozz8258]

title sponsor not mentioned as per usual , smoke and mirror shootout haha motocross austrian magazine

[@tcmx712]

The top down view of the bikes at 1.40 is quite interesting to see the widths. It's funny how the slimmest looking bike from that angle is also the heaviest and makes you wonder if all Suzuki needs to do is update the motor to be in the running again as they could probably lose 15 pounds just in the engine

[@barcuda1250]

Should drop suzuki And put the 350 in the mix way more relevant to the non pro level maybe even just 1 of the 3 wood be orsom

[@davidornelas5835]

Agree that there isn't a "bad" bike in the shootout. However, if given the chance, it really does pay to be able to ride all the different brands to see which one fits you best. Best of luck if you can make that happen.

[@rayv882]

I don't get it I've watched other 450 shootouts and the KX450 has won like 2 or 3 years in a row. I watched another video of the 2022 450 shootout and they chose the KX450to win?

[@mikemajor5291]

MXA making no sense yet again

[@2_strokesmoke]

Will you add the new Stark electric bike to the lineup next year?

[@joshmosiman1955]

If they give us one to keep and test longterm, probably! But if we only get to ride it for a day, then no

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

I dont think they should. Its not exactly a 450, now is it?

[@V.ertz_]

You guys should put the ranking numbers from last year for the number plates numbers

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

This is a joke , just giving a price to every manufacturer . You’re telling me not one bike could win 2 different caratgories ? This is pathetic just trying to keep manufacturers happy to keep the free bikes coming in . Fancy calling the Honda the best pro bike because basically everything on it will be changed that’s laughable

[@Bmxr1991]

Let me guess, the Suzuki was last

[@rik3346]

BLU CRU 💙

[@wentworthtucker1539]

Is there going to be a 2023 450 shootout this year. It’s been almost three months in the new year and there is no shootout for the 450s yet. The 2023 450 shootout is well over due

[@togepi21]

Lmao Husky first? It’s so obviously undeserved. Plastic subframes that need to be replaced for the most minute of impacts... I don’t think so Tim.

[@terriknowles9004]

the smock was cool

[@Belt372]

I love my Suzuki idc if it has a kicker if you can’t kick it you shouldn’t be on it anyways 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@DavidJDiehl]

The Honda comes with a bad ECU. Haha. 😂

[@thisisben3593]

Mxa is Austrian biased. . . .theyre a joke

[@jurdegraaf6660]

where is tm ??

[@Wreckhouse69]

Lmao honda 58hp😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 try like 50-54 if god is assisting

[@cobrasvt123]

YZ all day

[@brokenlegz]

By why is the Honda the best at whips? These reviews pretty much sound the same as they did 2012. In terms of all the bikes characteristics.

[@dannysmith6035]

Kawasaki & Yamaha is POS. Keeping Honda. & maybe suzuki.

[@rayv882]

I have a 2022 KX450 and I love my bike it is amazing!

[@davidmolyneux7284]

Are you still enjoying it? It's the bike I want but some reviews put me off. People keep saying no get ktm

[@AlexKehrOfficial]

Wait a sec. You can't have 2 3rd place runners. One or the other brother

[@lyndonjack]

can you please do a 85cc shoot out.

[@grecoconduris6716]

Awesome production. Looking at getting a new MX bike for track work. I currently ride a TE300 for trails and some track. I would consider myself a Vet beginner, if I am generous maybe pushing towards intermediate. I ride mix of intermediate/vet tracks or sometimes the senior tracks depending on location. I am also 210lbs. I was initially thinking a Gas Gas MC350 or a Husky FC350, but I have never ridden a 350 and probably wont get the opportunity to try one. I rode my friend new YZ450F recently and loved the suspension but felt the power was too much for me. Wondering now if the FC450 would be more suitable given my weight?

[@travisazure]

I currently weigh about the same, 210lbs, and have 2 ktm 350s. Xcf & 22-sxf and they both have more then enough power for me. I'm an A- expert level off-road racer to give a little more perspective.

[@grecoconduris6716]

@@travisazure thank you, I appreciate it

[@xd_gangster693]

"it over heats in long motos and even the starting line" how the hell does honda manage to make a bike that overheats on the starting line

[@thinkandrepent3175]

I don't believe that shit for a minute, Honda does one thing solid and thats QC.

[@StrykerV8]

All these bikes will overheat on the starting line if sat long enough. They need air flowing through their radiators

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Because: 4-stroke = much higher operating temp than a 2-stroke.

[@johnalvinatienza290]

What's the title of that epic metal from the intro

[@philosborn1840]

Maybe put the RM on a diet with a project bike series. Also engine tuning tips and suspension modifications. Let Suzuki know you’ll try to help them sell their bikes.🇨🇦🇺🇸4ever

[@wilsonmorales5748]

Honda 6th it should be 3

[@DUNEATV]

Skip to 4:45

[@leonibs5034]

I know this is old news now but I rode a 22 yz450f recently and the only thing I liked was the power the bike overall felt terribly fat and top heavy with bucking suspension that kicked you around everywhere, I’m a 175lb without gear)