Here's the full face helmet test video kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3uUZalsfsuDeqc
@geneclarke22059 ай бұрын
From the Harley-Davidson web site: "One of the most important types of motorcycle gear to wear while spending time on the open road is a helmet. Harley-Davidson's motorcycle half helmets are constructed to offer the protection riders need in different types of settings and can contribute to any type of motorcycle look." I guess for Harley the "look" is more important than the riders brains.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
hahahhaaha
@Kevin975879 ай бұрын
Wearing a half helmet is to create the illusion of safety but it offers almost no protection
@formermoses9 ай бұрын
@MotoJitsu allow me to chime in hahahaha
@Dudeitzmimi9 ай бұрын
If you only care about looks, then you don't have any brains to protect 😂
@jakejudson85789 ай бұрын
It's about whatever they want to think or not think isn't freedom great?
@CRoc30699 ай бұрын
As a new rider, I was thinking about adding a half helmet to my collection but after seeing this...I WILL NEVER RIDE WITH A HALF HELMET!! Thanks for this valuable lesson 😬😱🤯
@sherryYYC9 ай бұрын
Me too!!!!!!!😨
@Jezebel_Cat5 ай бұрын
Wise choice.
@mattw7557Ай бұрын
Full face or dont ride. Its not worth it
@banquo60615Ай бұрын
Come on, now. At 40 mph, all the full helmet does is save time for the mortician.
@mattw7557Ай бұрын
@@banquo60615 my friend fell off at 100mph skidded across the ground only broke his collar bone and pulled the right arm socket. His helmet has a hudge flatspot. Also you dont see fatalities from moto gp those guys are easily going over two hundred and they get up like nothing
@lumarious9 ай бұрын
From what I understand, DOT basically means nothing... It's essentially the honor system. The manufacturer claims that the helmet meets the standards, but there is no enforcement of testing, whereas Snell and ECE helmets actually have to be tested, and pass, to be certified. If anyone knows better, please correct me. Side note, I had a large bird hit me in the face at 70MPH. Was very glad to have a full face helmet on that ride :P
@robertisbell32629 ай бұрын
Turkeys, geese and vultures where I ride. They pucker me up as much as cagers, deer, and dogs. I also always wear a full face helmet.
@perkmoto9 ай бұрын
Great idea! Now show what a full face helmet will do with the other dummy head. Hopefully, it is fully protected and you can use it again.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
The dummy head probably could be used again yes not the helmet
@C.Pachovsky9 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu it would be a fun idea to use a full face helmet for the other dummy and show the difference.
@non-wx8qm9 ай бұрын
With my luck, I'd be the guy in my car coming from the opposite direction of this experiment. 2:25
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I found a brand new full face helmet that's DOT and ECE certified online I just bought and will use to make a new video
@RonnieRides2039 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsuthis will be fun to watch!
@BattleChemist9 ай бұрын
The reason I always wear a full face helmet is I shudder at the thought of landing chin first at speed and having my lower jaw literally torn off my face.
@gorkacg84629 ай бұрын
The only time I fall from my motorcycle I dragged the chin part of the helmet a lot, It's the part that get hit the most
@maxwellstevens43839 ай бұрын
Scary thing to me is less the potential for fatal injury, more the kind of injuries you might survive with this.
@JuanRodriguez-cn1ek9 ай бұрын
basic physics: p=mv (momentum = mass multiplied by velocity). In a real-life scenario, the thing attached to your head (rest of the body) would be factored in as part of the mass, thereby drastically increasing momentum (and damage). Assuming you hit headfirst, the impact would be way WAY worse IRL... regardless, it’s insane how badly busted it got with just the weight of the head behind it. And could you imaging if it had hit a comparably heavier item (with less give), say idk, a truck bed (or worse)?! If this doesn’t underscore the importance of practising and improving your riding skill & wearing quality gear, I doubt anything else would. Stay safe y’all!
@jhvorlicky9 ай бұрын
And momentum is proportional to velocity, i.e. if the speed doubles, the momentum doubles. Kinetic energy, on the other hand, is not. If the velocity doubles, the kinetic energy increases FOUR times. And, if one should ever feel that one's full face Shoei is making one complacent, one should consider that there is no helmet in the world which can prevent one's brain turning to pulp as it smashes against the inside of one's skull... Ride safe. Train with your mind. A successful ride is one where we ride ourselves home - preferably on the same bike we set out on!
@amandadominguez56989 ай бұрын
💯 I use to wear 3/4 helmet. Then I took my riding course. My instructor explained what happens to the chin and other parts of your head. He recommended Shoei. That’s what I got. Ride safe.
@markellott56209 ай бұрын
Hmmm. I'm an instructor. I'm in the UK, so milage may differ. My role is to give information about the benefits and risks associated with each type of helmet. It is not to influence one way or another and I would never recommend a brand as each brand has differing shell sizes and shapes, so what fits one, may not fit another. Again, this must be a personal choice. My role is merely to give people the information they need to make that informed choice. As I said in an earlier comment elsewhere on this discussion - there is no right or wrong answer. Personally, I like the 3/4 helmets as they give greater peripheral vision. I'm prepared to make this trade against the 4% risk of a facial injury. But you may not.
@amandadominguez56989 ай бұрын
To each their own. At the end of the day it’s your head. Very happy I was give a recommendation as if I was his own daughter getting on a bike. I asked for an honest opinion and that’s what I got.
@markellott56209 ай бұрын
@@amandadominguez5698 Yes, of course, it's your head and if you are happy with your choice, then that's good. It's just that I would *never* make a specific recommendation regarding type or manufacturer as that would be inappropriate of me to do so. When asked for an honest opinion, I advise students to go to a shop and try on as many helmets as possible to find the best fit.
@TS-di5zw9 ай бұрын
@markellott5620 At least in the US, a full-face DOT approved helmet has 210 degrees of visibility. Humans only have about 180 degrees of total vision. No vision is lost wearing a full face helmet unless you're an alien. Have fun riding out there and thanks for training other riders.
@markellott56209 ай бұрын
@TS-di5zw it's the loss of forward peripheral vision I notice, rather than off to the side. As I've mentioned elsewhere, it's all about preference.
@clemc54579 ай бұрын
A couple of decades ago, I came off the bike at 40 MPH. Long story so I’ll skip the details. The nurse told me I wouldn’t have walked out of the hospital if I hadn’t been wearing a full face helmet. A friend died within hours of doing a face plant into cinder wearing a ½ helmet. You decide.
@pipersall67615 ай бұрын
Sorry for your friend. Half helmets are nearly no helmets.
@tonycj78609 ай бұрын
Last year I had a relatively minor fall. I was going maybe 20MPH. I never felt my heat touch the ground. Yet I had a lot of scrapes on the front visor. If I had not been wearing a full face helmet, I would have messed up the money maker for sure.
@Wagongirl019 ай бұрын
Well, one other thing to highlight is that there was a lot of damage at the lower back, which is where your brain stem is. That's for basic life functions, so if that gets wrecked, it's game over. Doesn't even matter what happens to the front of your face at that point.
@dxpehat76829 ай бұрын
I'd say it's a feature. Knowing that I'd probably lose my whole face and my eyes with it and maybe get paralysed to some degree I'd rather just die.
@jrvgwagner9 ай бұрын
I was ready to buy an open helmet, then I saw some youtube videos with this type of content and I completely change my mind. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@pnmarquet9 ай бұрын
Moral of the story - Dot half helmet can survive a crash... its just your head that won't
@gtsteele62199 ай бұрын
I had a friend who used one of these goofy lids. Every time he put it on I said “soup for lunch?”
@weylins9 ай бұрын
When i got back into riding after years without a bike, i was resewrching helmets and ran across very graphic images of a guy who had been wearing a half helmet and went dowm doing 60mph.... his entire jaw was gone. It had been torn off in the crash. Fulk face and ECE rated for me thanks
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus9 ай бұрын
I believe that’s why Thai orthodontists and dentists are so proficient. Even the ones with private practices generally work quotas in the state hospitals. Everyone rides scooters with bare minimum helmets that would fail compliance elsewhere, and their road accident rate per-capita is the second highest in the world. So they’ve had plenty of experience. Just my theory and I could be wrong.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
full face for everyone!!!!!
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus9 ай бұрын
I quit my open-face helmets after a bird strike to the shoulder at somewhere north of 80mph. It felt like a baseball bat and left bruises lasting a week. Also induced a serious speed wobble.
@SFV49 ай бұрын
My brother is a surgeon and he once showed me a picture of a biker who crashed with such a helmet. The biker was conscious at the time the doctors took the picture. All the skin below the eyes was gone. His nose looked like your dummy and his lower jaw was hanging only held by lumps of skin and muscles…
@Kevin-px7so9 ай бұрын
This is real. I live and ride in Thailand that has the highest motorcycle death rate globally. 90% die from head and face injuries and nearly all of those have either no helmet or a cheap plastic half or 3/4 lid. I’ve ridden up on at least 2 dozen deaths and saw the same types of helmet still on their head with crazy head and face injuries. By far the best video you’ve put out, good wake up call.
@louiewatson93894 ай бұрын
I've used those plastic skid lids in the Philippines. The reason the death rate is so high is because they can't drive and try to over take traffic on narrow roads. You wanna see real crazy driving go to Kuwait.
@simonyeager60629 ай бұрын
I always always recommend this channel to new riders. I always tell them that It'll save their lives. I stand corrected.
@johnanderson97359 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. From the very first MSF Beginner class I took nearly 40 years ago, the video I remember most is the one they did about helmets. The video used a watermelon to show what would to a head suffering an impact of 3 miles per hour falling from a motorcycle with no helmet, then another watermelon with a 3/4 helmet, that watermelon survived.
@archjelley46409 ай бұрын
I'm convinced. Been riding in Philippines with open-faced helmet for many years. Speeds are slow, no more than 90kph so should be okay. Will buy full-face helmet before starting the bike again. Thanks for the safety lesson.
@solidsnake26659 ай бұрын
5:22 Schwarzenegger makes a guest appearance lol. Great video, gruesome illustration!
@Robnord19 ай бұрын
I notice a GoPro mount on top of the skid lid. That's all these are good for, a camera mount for generally non-hazardous activities. I still have one of these from my not-very -smart days, and that's what I keep it for.
@jgtl1000s9 ай бұрын
I have been pushing for years for law enforcement to move away from those style helmets. Nowadays with modulars they shouldn't be using them anymore
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I understand 3/4 for motorcops but not half helmets
@steve00alt709 ай бұрын
The one thing I would personally compromise is the feet. I wear motorcycle specific hi top trainers because I go food shopping, go to work and go to meetings aswell as running errands around town on the bike and people dont know they are motorcycle boots. It just doesnt make sense to wear full race boots for what im doing. They are really uncomfortable, stiff and harder to control the bike. But this is cool vid really interesting.
@markellott56209 ай бұрын
There are plenty of fashionable riding boots on the market these days that will give you both reasonable foot and ankle protection while being comfortable to wear off the bike.
@ontheothersideoftheroad9 ай бұрын
That is a novelty helmet with a faux DOT. Daytona makes good DOT half helmets but your right ultimate protection is def a fullface for sure.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
"good half helmet" is an oxymoron
@WhiteChocolateTricks9 ай бұрын
Well it depends what the objective is right? If you just want to look like an 80s dude-bro it's good. If you want to live, it's bad. xD @@MotoJitsu
@stevesmith7569 ай бұрын
Anything DOT only is junk. Anything half helmet is junk
@mbj11639 ай бұрын
@@stevesmith756 My Shoei GT-Air is DOT only. (I don’t think they pay for the extra cents in the U.S.)
@mbj11639 ай бұрын
Certs
@thomasblake70469 ай бұрын
What's even crazier is that the dummy head hit a fairly light object that absorbed a lot of the impact. Imagine the head against a parked car or utility pole. Yikes!
@TheClarkenstein9 ай бұрын
You couldn’t have done that throw any better! Well done.
@sixstringslaya9 ай бұрын
Compare a full faced helmet. Prove your claim. I fully agree with you about it too. Just wanted to see the difference
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
That’s the next video
@roguerebel20236 ай бұрын
Having worked in Radiology for almost 40 years I have seen the results first hand of the damage from no helmet vs half helmet vs full face and I can tell you with certainty that the first two aren't pretty! If the victim survives they typically endure months or years of reconstructive surgeries, depending on the extent of damage to the facial bones. Also, wear your seat belts while driving, it does a body good.
@markellott56209 ай бұрын
I wear 3/4 or modular helmets. We have the ECE 22.06 standard in the UK, which is higher than the DOT standard. In fact, if students turn up with a DOT only lid, we put them in one of ours. As for the choice between types, it's a trade off. People tend to worry about facial injuries, however, the likelihood of a facial injury is around 4% of all head injuries as the helmet is most likely to slide rather than faceplant the tarmac, so you pay your money, you take your pick. Personally, I'll take the 4% risk in favour of day to day practicality and all round better vision - especially when training. As I say, do what works for you - there is no right or wrong answer here. Be aware of the risks and benefits and make an informed choice. Personally, I don't like full face helmets and don't wear one. The modular helmet will give me the weather protection I need when I want it. During the summer months and riding off road, I'll take the 3/4 helmet.
@honestlion177 ай бұрын
God bless you. You are one of the very few voices of reason on motorcycle safety. Keep them coming. You are helping save lives!
@MotoJitsu7 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Moto_Dad_1149 ай бұрын
As someone who owns a Harley in a state that doesn’t don’t require endorsed riders over 18 to wear a helmet at all I always wear a dot/ece rated full helmet every time I ride for this reason.
@whollymindless9 ай бұрын
I am starting to rethink my modular.
@Adrian-ek9ne9 ай бұрын
Why? Is your modular a full face?
@markellott56209 ай бұрын
I wouldn't. It will be fine if it is ECE 22.05 or 06 tested as a full face - look for the P on the label. If it has a J then it's been tested as a 3/4 if it has both, it's been tested for both.
@hankjones35279 ай бұрын
As per Mark's comment: just make sure it P/J homologated. If it is then it is a full face helmet (when clicked down obviously) That just leaves you with the choice of if it's worth the risk of flipping it up whilst riding at low speeds or stopped at the lights etc.
@ErosSirianni9 ай бұрын
That half helmet is good just to walk in the woods . Very instructive video thank you
@Nasiromar4109 ай бұрын
The first drive by with a skull I’ve seen, spot on😂
@koopsjunta9 ай бұрын
Great instructional video mate. All riders need this.
@lincolndachane14849 ай бұрын
Old adage - if you have a $10 head, get a $10 dollar helmet.
@user-tw6ce1ib4xy9 ай бұрын
I crashed last year at 40mph. Landed on my shoulder and slid on my face. Even my relatively cheap Sedici Strada made an enormous difference. Still had to be replaced and had some damage in the inside hard foam stuff, and that was without a direct hit
@NekoNya129 ай бұрын
Full face always. I just got into a accident with my husband and my helmet saved me. My entire face shield was so damaged. I hit my head and slide.
@sup3rman0009 ай бұрын
I feel like I’m watching myth busters haha! So awesome!
@triumphbonnt1007 ай бұрын
Great visuals on this test. Possibly a test for the other dummy head and helmet would be how it does when hit by a rock or other object when at speed. This can easily happen if you are following a dump truck or tandem trailer that just picked up a load of gravel and is flying down the highway.
@DuasRodasnoCanada8 ай бұрын
Great videos, congratulations for creating those. Very informational showing in details the difference. I guess it can't be denied that a full face helmet will ALWAYS provide way more protection. At the end of the day it will always depend on what anyone is willing to compromise in terms of being safe vs being comfortable/convenient. Can't deny that an open/half-helmet is more convenient and comfortable to wear vs can't deny that a full face is more secure. cheers.
@susanl31365 ай бұрын
Years ago, I knew of a man who hit a car that pulled out in front of him. T-boned the car. His lower jaw impacted the side mirror, and was stuck on the mirror. He survived, but you can imagine the recovery. Have worn full hemet ever since.
@MotoJitsu5 ай бұрын
Damn...full face no matter what :) instagram.com/motojitsuclub/
@leftymike87309 ай бұрын
I used to wear those, when I decided to switch to a full face, second time I wore it I had my first and only crash and the front of the helmet impacted a curb. I would not be here if I was still wearing that useless bucket. I will NEVER ride without a full face helmet again
@FGGiskard6 ай бұрын
In Spain these are called “quitamultas” for a reason (meaning “fineavoiders” or something similar in english)
@imthatguy18785 ай бұрын
I may not like my full helmet on a 90 degree day but its always on, we used to cruise around with just glasses because here in Maine you don't need to wear a helmet yet you do a seatbelt. After a few hits in the melon from rocks,bugs ect.. I went to a full helmet and besides safety the wind noise became tolerable and could enjoy the actual sounds of the bike.
@MotoJitsu5 ай бұрын
instagram.com/motojitsuclub/
@EddieFresh39 ай бұрын
I used to wear a half helmet. After working in Auto insurance and seeing a bunch of half helmet/no helmet accidents, I immediately switched to a modular helmet.
@TimRHillard9 ай бұрын
How are you liking thar Tacoma?
@TwoHawksHunting9 ай бұрын
If you only have half a head, wear half a helmet. Otherwise wear a full-face helmet to protect your entire head and all of the important contents therein. Good info.
@PiddyS-fk2pp9 ай бұрын
Helmets are not designed to protect your head from slamming 40MPH in to anything. They're designed you protect your head falling 6-8 feet on to concrete, and keep that impact from scrambling your brain. The other issue is protection from the tumbling. If you drive 40MPH into a fixed barrier, it's bad day time. Look at any of the crash barrier videos at what damage 35MPH does to a car (which IS designed to hit something at 35MPH). Hitting a barrier at speed, your body is the crumple zone. I'm not going to advocate half helmets, but I will advocate them over no helmet. Bicycle riders suffer the same forces as motorcycle riders when they fly off their bikes and hit the ground, yet their helmets are not designed like motorcycle helmets. Bicyclists don't normally have the velocity of a motorcycle rider, so don't tumble as much, and receive (ideally) less road rash. But the fundamental premise is the drop of your head from 6-8 feet onto concrete. If you look at the Snell test, that's the primary case that they test. Dropping your head on an anvil, not smashing it into a wall at 40MPH. The CPSC test for bicycle helmet is very similar to the Snell test -- 2 meter drop onto an anvil.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
Did you know this? 6D helmets of have 2 layers of protection with suspension in between the layers. www.6dhelmets.com/pages/technology
@PiddyS-fk2pp9 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu We've learned much more about impacts and their consequences and how we can mitigate these. The 6D designs are similar to what the GP racers are using and the European standards. Snell and the DOT are not modern in this sense. The newer ideas are designed to also account for the rotational forces affecting the brain in the skull, rather than just the raw impact. The suspension technologies, like in 6D, are designed to help dampen those forces during a crash. I have a SHOEI like yours, and I'm eager for them to bring this technology to that platform. I enjoy your channel.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
Who knows what kind of gear will be invented in the future...but either way...all the best gear in the world...biggest issue I've seen is lack of rider skill/riding ability, but that's slowly changing too MotoJitsu.com/courses
@bdimon9 ай бұрын
I watched a rider low side wearing a half helmet. His shoulder hit the ground first, then his head. The half helmet rotated from the drag on the placement, exposing the side of his head. The exposed side of his head hit the road. It was not a hard impact but he was incoherent. I'm sure that his head would not have touched the pavement if he had been wearing a 3/4 or full helmet.
@kurt54909 ай бұрын
Looks like the half helmet is little better then a bump cap for confined space work. I spent about $800 for an arai. Money well spent.
@Mr450pro8 ай бұрын
I saw a drunk guy on a 50cc moped doing about 20-25km/h with half helmet like this. He lost control and went in head first. There no meat left on his nose at all in fact his nose was gone and his chin was gone. He was wearing glasses and they had pushed all the meat and skin from his nose up in his forehead. It was really surreal because the guy was going so slow and I honestly didn’t think anything happened to him until I saw him. I will never forget that and I will never use a half helmet or ride with my Shoei Neotec open.
@williamwintemberg9 ай бұрын
Not so long ago, someone I'm very close to got in a pretty bad accident. He was in bad shape with many broken bones along with a pulmonary embolism. He miraculously recovered! He was wearing a full face at the time of the accident. The helmet had many scrapes and a couple of cracks. He sustained no head injuries. Here's the weird part. He now rides without a helmet! What the,......?
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
🤦🏻♂️
@diegito20109 ай бұрын
This time you nailed it man..😊 Thanks for this great content
@basmca19 ай бұрын
I work in first response. Yesterday we had an accident between a motorcyclist and pedestrian. The motorcyclist hit the pavement at around 50/60kph. He was wearing a helmet without a chinbar. He will be using a straw to eat for the next couple of months. He also wasn't wearing gloves. Please wear gloves.
@kevinw62829 ай бұрын
Man, this is great. Shocking, but that's what people need to see. What people may not get, coming from a medical background, is just how unbelievably horrific this trauma would be were that a real head attached to a real body experiencing that for real. Think squashing a large bug with your foot, just at human scale. I bet stories from forensics people or medical examiners would also help to get the point across. That is, if people believe what they say in today's world.... Nice job, great idea!!
@erikjansen85979 ай бұрын
I love this. As a comparison with the skull cap, why not use a full-face helmet with your other head? Maybe with a base Shoei SR RF, just to show how much more protection you get from a base model full-face.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I could....not ready to destroy my helmet doing it though because it'll be done after I do it
@erikjansen85979 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu I have an old Shoei SR RF if you want to use it.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I found a brand new full face helmet that's DOT and ECE certified online I just bought and will use to make a new video
@erikjansen85979 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu Awesome!
@davidpoffenbarger36869 ай бұрын
A friend in high school (circa 1974) crashed his Honda Trail 70 on a gravel road at about 40 mph wearing a half helmet. He ground a lot of his lower face to the bone and broke his jaw. Looking at his scabbed up face for several months convinced me to always wear a full face helmet. The scabs weren't the worst though. His broken jaw was wired shut and he couldn't properly brush his teeth. His breath became intolerable if you were closer than about 4' from him. That was also about the time of Bell Helmet's advertising about having a $10 head, where a $10 helmet. Yup, full face for life!!
@ryancraig27959 ай бұрын
An actual DOT approved half helmet is not ideal, but will provide some protection. The non-DOT "beanies" that a lot of cruiser riders wear do nothing.
@4DMASTR9 ай бұрын
Cool demo. A high speed camera catching the action would have been icing in the cake! Torque Test channel is down in the San Diego area i believe and has one. Maybe a cool collab for your other head?
@onerider8089 ай бұрын
Talk to us about modular helmets; I have a good modular, and a full face. I wear the modular a lot on dirt and singletrack (sometimes on asphalt, too).
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
talk to you about it?
@FREE_PUREBLOOD3339 ай бұрын
Well done for showing this..let's just hope it helps save lives if people see this and tell their half helmet mates.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
thanks! share it
@moorepower139 ай бұрын
Data shows little damage to your spine,yet people use vests with back protectors with open face helmets.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
open face helmets are soooo dumb
@moorepower139 ай бұрын
@MotoJitsu uncomfortable too. So much noise and terrible fit.
@johnharkins704620 күн бұрын
You can see clearly where the helmeted skull hit the toolbox neck/chin first. Usually they have bodies attached to them.
@MotoJitsu20 күн бұрын
How do you think it’ll be if you chin hits first falling off a bike at 50mph?
@93JMAC9 ай бұрын
Yo, Censor your plates. There’re crazy people out there friend. Kool video, as always. I won’t lie though… I do wear Half faces in short rides BUT at my own risk.
@sunmand61369 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, was considering another kind of half helmet with a chin strap.Not anymore.
@LordMcKrakenVonLittleBits9 ай бұрын
People's ego somehow stops them from gearing up properly. That ego also means nothing when you're in a coffin. I've never had more than a small drop from hitting an oil slick on a wet road but was really happy my Nolan took almost all of the impact on my head. At just 15mph on a Honda Fury (almost 900lbs with me on it) and if I was wearing one of these skid lids I'd have probably had serious head trauma but instead I was able to shake it off and ride home.
@Jake_B749 ай бұрын
Just to really show people the difference, get a low end full face helmet. Something that you would recommend to a student on a budget. Repeat the same test to showcase the difference in survivability.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
that's the next video
@joeleonardo49029 ай бұрын
That was just 30mph. Can you imagine hitting side of a vehicle at 60-70? I'm ugly, but I like my face; so I only wear a full face, Snell approved helmet. Thanks for this video!
@martinj.groenewegen17919 ай бұрын
I wondered what the half helm was for... great demo.
@BluRide799 ай бұрын
Always awesome Greg 😎🔥💯
@superman00359 ай бұрын
You’ve shown what it looks like on a half helmet, but now you should show what it looks like in a full face. I think that would drive the point home. A 3/4 helmet would be interesting too.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
Next video
@lukey65345 ай бұрын
A good full face road helmet on the road but if ya just I think a half helmet is ok for a farm bike chasing sheep/cattle. Good gloves are important especially for lower speed accidents because instinctively people put their hands out.
@MotoJitsu5 ай бұрын
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@6Mar999 ай бұрын
I had his interesting conversation with a security guard where he had 5 stitches to his chin after a low speed crash. everything was ok except for his chin. He bought a full face helmet right after getting his Christmas bonus
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I have ONE more dummy head...what should I do with it?
@RollWithSoul3179 ай бұрын
Put an Open Face Helmet with face shield on it and do the same test! But I’m sure the consensus will be for a full face or modular helmet. 👍
@Bikeyid9 ай бұрын
Same experiment with a full face helmet with the proper certifications.
@DamnItAnupaM9 ай бұрын
Same test with full face helmet
@kellyoconnor78969 ай бұрын
Same with a full helmet
@DragosDreamer19899 ай бұрын
Full face helmet test, for comparisson
@Ratt1eHead9 ай бұрын
Nice!! I seen this KZbin video of a guy remaking open faced helmets. He would take a small size because the shell isn't as bulky, tear out the guts, shave it all down so a large to xl head would fit into this small helmet. He said he's sold about 6000 over the years. Ugh.
@AntonioRockGP9 ай бұрын
Another thing about half helmets is that don't protect your eyes. I don't understand how people ride without protecting the eyes. Any little flying debris or even a bug can cut your vision long enough for you to crash. And, worse, the law in Portugal obligates the use of a helmet but not eye protection
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I've taken enough rocks/bugs etc to the face and see/hear them bounce off my face shield to not understand 1/2 helmets
@AntonioRockGP9 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu exactly!
@x-man50569 ай бұрын
Good demonstration. The study I saw, think it was on Yammie, said 34% of all deadly helmet impacts come to the face and jaw. And you ain't going to look right again if you do live.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
Thanks! FYI I found a brand new full face helmet that's DOT and ECE certified online I just bought and will use to make a new video to show the difference :)
@stargazer1629 ай бұрын
You have to admit the helmet stood the impact pretty well, it didn't break or anything. Too bad the head didn't share the same faith. I don't get why anyone would want to wear one of those ridiculous half helmets, not only you'd be terribly unsafe but you'll also look goofy as hell. A proper motorcycle helmet looks cool and it's functional on top of that, so why not wear that instead?
@michaelsloane10349 ай бұрын
Need to do same test with full face so we can see if the full face is really more protective I would like to see the difference I do wear a full face and modular helmet but never half helmet
@hebrewboy31269 ай бұрын
Great job, moto you the man
@whitedevil24 ай бұрын
i would caution people on the tone and choice of words used on this subject, or any safety gear. claiming that a full face helmet is the better/correct/smart choice implies that anything else is not. well, someone could say that wearing an airvest is the "smart" choice, and not wearing one is, well, not. is your life not worth a few hundred extra dollars? and some of these posts are accompanied with anecdotes of getting into serious accidents with serious injuries even with a full face helmet. people who don't ride might say that the choice to ride a motorcycle at all is the opposite of "smart". so were you smart for wearing a full face helmet, but not smart because you were riding a motorcycle in the first place? and if a skid lid is "stupid", as this guy says over and over, isn't a half helmet a 'smarter' choice than no helmet at all? and does that make the motorcycle a "stupid" thing as well since all it does is put you in harm's way? we partake in a hobby that has higher risks than a lot of other activities. and we accept those risks. and everyone chooses their own level of gear/safety that suits them. a biker pretty much understands the differences in risks of getting on a bike, wearing no helmet, a half helmet, a 3/4 helmet, and full helmet. while it's great to educate people on how different types of safety gear might offer more protection than others, i would just leave it at that without any judgement on what others choose to do.
@MotoJitsu4 ай бұрын
It’s your life, do what you want. But even a rock or bug hitting your face at highway speeds would seriously suck when wearing any open face helmet… And it’s proven over and over 30% or more of crashes your chin bar will hit the ground… You can go running down the street without shoes on top, doesn’t make it smart idea does it?
@whitedevil24 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu you seem to have missed the point. you could say riding without a windshield is stupid. or wearing no helmet at all is stupid. but this was all about saying a half helmet is stupid. one in which, by your own claim, would protect the rider in the other 70% of crashes. sounds a lot smarter than wearing no helmet at all, doesn't it? or not riding a motorcycle at all that doesn't offer any protection? man, that just makes bikes stupid, right?
@MotoJitsu4 ай бұрын
half helmets are stupid...your entire face is exposed compared to a full face helmet. But do what you want, not my face that'll be messed up.
@someonethatwatchesyoutube29539 ай бұрын
A wonderful young lady and dear friend of mine died due to head trauma while wearing a “novelty” helmet like that and being thrown off the bike at slow speed when a car clipped the rear tire. She left a six year old daughter behind. Please wear a good quality full face helmet!
@hopmahh9 ай бұрын
Could you please repeat this test with ece22.06 certified helmet? I think its important to show what exactly will be saved, and what damage is unavoidable
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
full face is next
@pipersall67615 ай бұрын
Great experiment! Half helmets are insane like no helmets! I am interested, what do you think about modular helmets? From your test I can sort of imagine your answer. If you hit your chin with those I guess they could fly open and then there goes your crash test dummy head there too. Thanks for this video! Good job sir.
@MotoJitsu5 ай бұрын
I have a modular but only wear it when I'm doing local, low speed practice days...not fast riding in the twisties instagram.com/motojitsuclub/
@pipersall67615 ай бұрын
@@MotoJitsu Thank you, sir. I am no longer considering modular, especially in the light of your great test. Really brings it home when you see the potential damage of any exposure let alone the half helmet insanity. Cheers from Indiana.
@roboman24449 ай бұрын
doing the test with a full face helmet as well would be nice. Showing how much less damage.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
I found a brand new full face helmet that's DOT and ECE certified online I just bought and will use to make a new video to show the difference :)
@trevorbelmond9089 ай бұрын
Great video I'm glad I own a full face helmet even though my friends told me its going to be very hot in the summer if you wear fullface
@Walker_McloudАй бұрын
Helmets are a must, but i see alot of people skipping the part about not going onto open roads and being idiots. even you jitsu, tell me you haven't tested your riding skills on a mountain road, in which car's could go into your lane around a blind corner. I think the thing we all need to teach is stop putting yourself into dangerous situations. they have tracks with riding days in almost every state. If you think your good, go there. not palomar mountain. Just saying. plus. if for anything avoid half helmets due to lack of wind noise cancellation.
@MotoJitsuАй бұрын
I’ve been to hundreds of track days, used to teach on track. It’s 4 hours one way from where I live and $300+ each time. You expect people to do that everyday since I ride everyday? And even if there is a track in someone’s state, it may be on the other side of the state, 10+ hours away. If you want to be safe, don’t ride.
@countersteer7139 ай бұрын
When I got my bike I got an AGV K1. I saw my old coworker at the store so I pulled up beside him and he was checking out my bike. He held up his helmet and said “this is all you need ” and it was an Amazon half helmet with the strap replaced with a normal buckle like off of a tactical backpack. With a Mohawk on top. The Mohawk is an old skilsaw blade he cut and epoxied to the top. He said “the only thing a helmet is for is to give paramedics something to put your brain bits in” Average Harley Rider™️ take 😂
@Dzinbhudist9 ай бұрын
Great video to show what happens, but for people who ride with such helmets none of these will change their mind, ego and “law of freedom” for them is more important than their safety… I use to say people who think live longer, people who care about others live longer 😉
@239dmw9 ай бұрын
The DOT, ECE, and Snell standards measure for impacts from about four feet to the ground. If your head contacts a solid stationary object at 40 mph, it won’t matter what helmet you’re wearing, you will die.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
Incorrect on the testing procedures
@SoulReaper599xx9 ай бұрын
The first thing that hit the pavement was my face when i crashed. My 6d ats 1r protected me just fine. picked up the bike and walked away. if i had a half helmet, i wudnt have a face.
@davidmurray91932 ай бұрын
Currently riding with an open faced helmet, and decided to get a shoie ex zero helmet as i feel full faced claustrophobic but think the shoie will be a cool compromise, seen this vid and thought ill check it out
@MotoJitsu2 ай бұрын
Smart choice
@seller5599 ай бұрын
I started out on dirt bikes before I bought a Harley. I wouldn’t cross my driveway without a full helmet.
@TimRHillard9 ай бұрын
Those are called 'brain buckets'.
@holisecleveland28599 ай бұрын
You should send a copy of this to Meg's Motorcycle Journey. It would be a shame if her good looks were ruined.
@MotoJitsu9 ай бұрын
send it, I have no idea who that is
@ronvaughan80419 ай бұрын
I've never understood why guys would want to look like a WW I German anyway.