2025 Hyundai Tucson Hybrid: Buy the cheap one!

[@jaanfo3874]

Ultimately, the need for the column shifter (and any electronic shifter in any car) is related to features like “Smaht Pahk” which allow the car to move semi-autonomously without the driver in the driver’s seat. The car can’t move a mechanical shifter out of Park in order to move the car autonomously, so it needs to be electronic. Now, the electronic shifters also have the benefit of looking/feeling more upscale, creating more room in the center console, etc, which is another reason automakers have increasingly added them even to models/trims which don’t need electronic shifters (Also because including them in more cars lowers the cost of engineering…. Economies of scale and all). Yes, electronic shifters are more expensive than a mechanical/cable shifter, and more prone to failure; this is why in Hyundai’s case cheaper models which don’t have those features keep the old console-style shifter. It’s more expensive to engineer two consoles and two transmission layouts, but keeps the lower trim cars cheaper, which is one of Hyundai’s goals.

[@MotoManTV]

Appreciate the insight and totally see all this . . . however, I cannot believe it is cheaper to produce two completely different shifter types for the same car.

[@Col.Klink.]

I go the SEL Convenience trim last week and am very happy with the purchase. I'm glad I wait a couple years before pulling the trigger. The physical buttons are such a plus for volume and climate. Also, I'm liking a lot more than I thought I would the shift by wire on the steering column. The extra space in the middle of the car is noticeable. and the wireless apple car play is very cool too.

[@doctorcopper4844]

Agree 100% with expanding hybrid across entire line 😎 We have 2 Tucsons and 1 Santa Fe among our family of seven. (2 are hybrids) Hyundai brings a lot of value & reliability to the table

[@kyrosmike]

My Hyundai I've put 100k on it, engine/transmission seem pretty solid as a hybrid, but door button broke already, then seat motor switches stopped working. I keep having physical switches wear out super early, driver's side window switch stopped working. My brother had same issues with his too, just seems they cheap out on switches and its really annoying. I have unpainted door handle now since you can't buy just the switch and didn't want to pay get it painted.

[@Stream-t8g]

@kyrosmike Us consumers have hard time deciding based on reviews as reviews can be promotions. I have driven two Toyota made cars to 200,000 miles and all bottoms worked. Wonder if u can share pics of failed bottoms of Hyundai. Thank you for your time.

[@edranft4071]

Thanks. Something special about your insights, sense of humor and editing skills.

[@TahoeKing]

Finally motoman is reviewing a car for the masses! More of this please! Honda CRV hybrid review?

[@MotoManTV]

Keep an eye on the view count . . . they usually come in much lower than our Porsche, Mercedes, BMW or similar episodes hence fewer of them. If you guys watch more of these, happy to do more where it makes sense.

[@TahoeKing]

@@MotoManTV a great man once said: KZbin algorithm is a bitch! 😁

[@MotoManTV]

Touché.

[@idealangiee2826]

I have a 2025 Tucson hybrid and coming up on 1000 miles. I’m averaging 30 mpgs based on my driving

[@Kered-9]

I have a 22 hybrid and love it.

[@stephen1991]

This is a car that is close in size to my 2013 Santa Fe sport, has everything I need, and yet I’m trying to buy the 2025 Santa Fe. The Tucson is a more relatable design than the Santa Fe, which I tolerate, but the fact that I see Tucsons everywhere is making me buy the Santa Fe. That’s if I can ever find one in the trim, and ext/int color I want.

[@whatthe6532]

Sounds like irrational decision making. I don’t live in a ten million dollar house because so many people I know do.

[@kenyaswallow5782]

@@whatthe6532 Well, I live in a city full of Tesla, so I want something different but I'll eventually end up getting Tesla..

[@zekew7546]

It’s a federal tax CREDIT, not an itemized deduction. So the federal clean vehicle tax credit is not for “the few who itemize deductions” …. although credit’s modified gross income is capped such as $150K for married filing jointly. Guess cap is not adjusted for inflation.

[@jtjgrfan]

It’s 150k for individuals and for 24 can be applied at purchase. More specifically : Your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) may not exceed: $300,000 for married couples filing jointly or a surviving spouse $225,000 for heads of households $150,000 for all other filers

[@agpawpaw5912]

According to fuelly 2023 Tucson hybrid average from all users 32 mpg. Rav4 hybrid 38 mpg and for some reason it includes few non hybrid, so really this numbers is higher. But anyway I appreciate Hyundai. Toyota’s prices is so high

[@sonnet9100]

For over $40 K there should be voice control over some of the passenger comfort selections, such as temperature, mapping destination, seat adjustments, media and entertainment controls, etc. … this would keep driver attention on the road instead of searching screens and menus for basic most used functions.

[@hey_guesswhat]

Read the instructions! It has different logic when you're flooring, so it's strange to compare driving modes like that.

[@BrandonG8Man]

All hybrid trims have the column shifter.

[@jraheemjefcoat429]

Some of their ICE top trim cars have them as well. Not just hybrids.

[@Erigion]

A small-displacement, direct injected turbo that's constantly turning on and off? I'd hate to see the intake valves on these things after a few years.

[@stephen1991]

Yeah, I’ve wondered about that as well.

[@petegalindez9961]

?? Since when do only those who itemize their taxes qualify for the tax EV tax credit?

[@biglee13m]

I did a roadtrip in it today about 300 miles and I averaged 22 KMPL (51 MPG?)

[@paulpellico3797]

so...then why is it advertised differently and why didn't motoman catch it??????

[@MotoManTV]

Fuel economy stated in all of our episodes are either US EPA or OEM estimates. Your mileage will vary GREATLY. For example, recently took a 2024 Hyundai Sonata N Line on a road trip. US EPA estimates 23/32/27 however I turned 36 MPG over an 800 mile road trip.

[@paulpellico3797]

@@MotoManTV yes, of course, everybody has different MPGs, this is pretty obvious. but...a road trip is no way to get an average. i get 26 ave in my MKS ECOBOOST v6 with 425HP after tune from st louis to stuart florida every time. but average around 20, 21 when both city and suburban are averaged together.

[@alfonsom8286]

51 mpg, nonsense!

[@biglee13m]

@@alfonsom8286 Yea it's much higher than it's rated. I guess it's just how I drive. Maximizing its hybrid powertrain potential is a game I play. This is my first hybrid car. The Tucson Hybrid's tach gives you pretty good idea how the powertrain is behaving. I try to stay within a certain range of it. Not that I'm a slow driver. I used to drive much faster cars.

[@Harmansehgal5]

Can someone confirm which trim is this? Blue?Sel? limited?

[@LiveWildandFree37]

He said it was the limited. You can see the leather seats.

[@anthonymendola2108]

The 2025 hybrids get the steering column shifter across all trims.

[@jraheemjefcoat429]

Hyundai has found ways to give customers options at a cheaper cost. You want an all-sporty look with painted wheel wells, then get the N-Line. Do you want a regular shifter instead of a column shifter? Then Hyundai has a trim for you. You want something that has some "off-roading" capability? Then theirs is the XRT trim. Again, Hyundai has ways to give their customers options. In fact, they are one of the fastest car brands that actually listen to their customers. Honda and Toyota intake is that hey, we're reliable. Take what we offer you and deal with it. Do you know I've waited almost 10 years for Honda to add a panoramic roof in their Accord? Its 2024, and they are the only sedan in the market that doesn't offer it. Thats what I mean by listening to their customers.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

2:28 Is it just me or is that REALLY heavy for this class of car?

[@Globeguy1]

Does it still have that ridiculous garbage truck beep for reversing?

[@koobeenz10]

asking the real questions

[@michaelfrancis-vb7tp]

Good stuff

[@forte7991]

Clearly Hyundai Tuscon setting itself apart from the competition. Reviewer should understand this vehicle is for the everyday, regular family

[@IceDree]

That piercing stare of the Daniel Craig poster feels like it's looking through my very soul lol.

[@MotoManTV]

It’s time to come clean about the E65 . . . :)

[@IceDree]

@@MotoManTV you'll never get it out of me copper! ;)

[@Only-one-life-68]

These are the cars I would purchase for hybrid or even full EV. Not a Porsche or a German over priced EV.. Ps yes I can afford one if wanted but sorry 😔 Porsche I’ll keep my Macan GTS for a few more years as your Macan EV is to expensive £74 k with reasonable spec but not great specs.. In my opinion Porsche is going to really struggle over the next 6-8 years with Porsche E

[@raidersamson3356]

I average 31 mpg with Forester and don’t have a hybrid. That’s 4 mpg and many thousands less than Tuscan hybrid

[@markcoopers1930]

Sure, on flat ground. Get anywhere with hills or traffic and the hybrid will win out.

[@ontarioman6301]

No power on the Forester

[@MrStranger1944]

Surprised you didn't address the elephant in the room: how low the rear turn signals are. It's a deal breaker if nobody on the road can see your turn signals.

[@jraheemjefcoat429]

Just don't tailgate! LOL. I just saw a Tuscon on the road, and the taillights weren't bad at all. I was able to see it.

[@MrStranger1944]

@@jraheemjefcoat429 You think a larger truck or semi would see it if it's right behind you? I doubt it.

[@zekew7546]

Low rear signal but also high signal lite in each side mirrors. Driver behind has to be phone-blind to miss both signals.

[@LiveWildandFree37]

@@jraheemjefcoat429 -- Well the same argument was made for the 3rd break light as well. lol

[@jraheemjefcoat429]

@@LiveWildandFree37 I'm convinced people just like to hear themselves conplain until they drove themselves to early set dementia...lol.

[@JaviM22]

Here goes a top tip.... hyundai hybrid systems are well done if you want to keep your car for a reasonable amount of time, if you plan to keep them long term Toyota´s hybrid system is way more realiable and less problematic. Hyundai´s system works well but it has a few parts which are prone to fail, specially if not well taken cared of or understood how to prevent it.

[@B9M3]

Which parts? TBH, I'd be more concerned with the turbo.

[@JaviM22]

@@B9M3 Hello B9m3, yes, you are correct. Turbos are never a blessing long term. Main suspects in my experience are the 3rd clutch which connects the gasoline engine with the electric motor & gearbox, hydraulic fluid for that clutch, reliability of the double clutch gearbox if not driven with care, both mechatronic actuators for the ´box, high voltage alternator & belt. Aside from it the powertrain seem to work fine so far. If one drives as the car is intended and also provide a good service they should last but if not they can present problems so easily and they are NOT cheap to fix/change. Hope this helps.

[@tonyktso]

Most cars do tend to develop problems past the 100k mark, including my Volvo 740 & Sienna. Past 100k (when Kia & Hyundei's warranty runs out), it doesn't make sense to put more money into old tech that has become obsolete (esp. on account new safety features that are no standard), nobody does that with PC or cell phones. So rather than insisting on driving them into the ground thinking it's "cheaper", which was my former approach, we now replace them early enough to recoup sunk cost & extract equity. New 2013 Optima LX acquired at $19k OTD, sold 2022 @ $8k, 2015 Sonata SE bought at $21k OTD sold 2024 at $10k. Not counting on the cost of money, that's just slightly over $1k/year in capital cost for a new vehicle with no repair cost (trouble free & no loss time at the shop) over a decade which you can't do in the vehicle's 2nd decade. My 2019 Jetta SE bought at $20k OTD just got totaled at 5 years 56k, 1 yr and 16k shy of VW warranty expiration (6 year 72k miles). Insurance hasn't made a settlement, I am going to insist on $15k which leaves me at $1k/yr for 5 years. But with how all the unnecessary tech & features they are putting into new vehicles and dealerships selling at MRSP during the pandemic, $20-$25k OTD acquisition seems unattainable. So I am aiming for a

[@JaviM22]

@tonyktso that's a lot of writing hehe. Thx though. I had a mk4 gti for 16y with over 200k miles and just basic maintenance. Even a Chevy I had with 150k miles and absolutely no problems outside basic maintenance. I've seen in near friends and acquaintances s-class and e-class with well over 300k miles and really nothing major. For the most part is learn on how to take care of a car and the total cost of ownership becomes very very cheap.

[@gobrad]

This new interior design in comparison to the 2022/23 is so Disappointing!! What swayed me between Kia and all other cars in that category was the unique dash/screen integration, the best I’ve seen in a modern car to date making it stand out from its competitors who have a clumsy screen awkwardly stuck on top of dash, which is also distracting! From a top class dash/screen integration to extremely basic… I’d hoped at the very least Hyundai would keep that unique style, and perhaps change the outer body, huge mistake as all its competitors are now in line with the same interior dash, actually I’ll go a step further, the new Tucson dash is a tray to store junk! It’s awful and for that reason I’m out! I’ll not be trading in my 2023 model for this new look next year!

[@LiveWildandFree37]

A turbo linked to a electric motor turning off and on all the time. I woulnt keep it past the 100k mile power train warranty.

[@msalvag]

57.5K Cdn. For only 4K more, I'd get a 330i xdrive and at leaat enjoy driving it.

[@10cpaul]

This guy pushes the junk Hyundai product! paid? Go to any local Hyundai/Kia and see the overflow of newer cars with service tags in the mirror! Ton's waiting for major repairs.

[@loseerich493]

Motoman obviously lost a bet & the payout was having to publish a review of a lower end Hyundai baby buggy. Oh-the-humanity!

[@darkivaz-aaa1145]

Hyundais ain't cheap. Maybe the used ones but the new ones aren't cheap

[@MotoManTV]

Nothing is 'cheap' these days however @ US$33,000 for the basic HEV Tucson, that is value akin to the basic Toyota Camry in today's world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gF7QeI2bgdOMq5o

[@kevincinnamontoast3669]

I applaud the elites deciding if the appliance is exciting enough. Just drive the car, shut up about subjective matters. Tell us real numbers, real prices,real mpg, real cupholderability 😁

[@MotoManTV]

WOW! First I am hearing that I am now an 'Elite':)

[@kevincinnamontoast3669]

​@@MotoManTV A youtube elite.😮

[@markcoopers1930]

Sounds like a Google search could answer all these... If you're not here to find out if it's exciting, why are you here?

[@agaragar21]

Rav4...the only way to go .....especially for $35,000

[@davidxan]

Rav 4 needs an update asap. The interior isn’t much different in style from my 2012 Rogue.

[@rinbine2713]

He don't know about current market. Why do Hyundai/Kia need to make a car cheaply? Hyundai/Kia have no intention of doing that at all. Demand that from Japanese cars. Choose from Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Nissan-there are so many options!