biggest factor is the engine , the triumph is only a bit buzzy at high revs but the rtr feels unrefined almost from low - mid range
@gaureeshhegde78657 ай бұрын
Okay uncle
@caveman367 ай бұрын
Little bit is an understatement. The triumph is not drivable in the top end
@nikhilvee87627 ай бұрын
@@caveman36hit 150 and speak brother. The breaks and handle bar is still responsive at that speed on triumph
@caveman367 ай бұрын
@nikhilvee8762 maybe but the engine feels strained post midrange
@Vincent_Stevens7 ай бұрын
@@caveman36 The scrambler 400x felt just abt fine at a speedo indicated 155 kmh. You can't expect anymore from a 400 cc single.
@mustafadudhwala72788 ай бұрын
If the rtr didn't have that dated-ass lazily made BMW engine that's almost a decade old now, it might have solved a lot of engine issues plus the exhaust end can.
@The_TheMaharaja197 ай бұрын
Lmao yes
@Ahmed-jv7oc7 ай бұрын
For sure
@tech98967 ай бұрын
That engine was launched in 2018 didn’t know 2018 was a decade back 🙄
@mustafadudhwala72787 ай бұрын
@@tech9896 2016*
@chotu51757 ай бұрын
Its not lazy ass engine, being only 310cc it competes with heigher displacements like 400 and even has won drag races against em
@Snazees8 ай бұрын
Wish Tvs had worked on reducing vibes of RTR 310 engine.
@saurabhkawale52047 ай бұрын
I was about to buy rtr 310 but thankfully I took test ride of speed 400 before making buying decision.
@raghu_8886 ай бұрын
What did u choose finally And how u would compare them with Honda cb350 rs
@akhtark61947 ай бұрын
Triump is just elegant.
@ssahoo55007 ай бұрын
But it's a Bajaj actually!! More of a dominar v2 with less weight and more power
@tanveshbhalerao14827 ай бұрын
@@ssahoo5500no its not its not dominar engine
@rounakbhattacharyya91637 ай бұрын
It's Triumph + Bajaj. And it's not Domi V2, get your facts right Bro. I agree on the point that Speed has more power to weight ratio.
@srinathtg46237 ай бұрын
How come there was absolutely no mention of the vibes or refinement of these bikes in this review? As though that should be least of our concerns before considering either of these 2 bikes. Such an old and reputed bike channel completely omitting such an important aspect of a bike in a comparison review is either gross oversight or deliberate omission. One bike screams after 6000 rpm and the other screams all the time.
@caveman367 ай бұрын
Right, Ive only driven the g310r and I found it has a consistent vibration throughout the rev range. It's smoother in the top end than in midrange. The triumph is butter smooth in low revs but buzzy as hell post midrange
@sagnikbiswas89227 ай бұрын
@@caveman36bmw is shit with this engine. Apache with the same engine has tuned it better. Apache is not as viby as bmw.
@sagnikbiswas89227 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was looking for. Whats rhe crusing speed or how are the vibes. Low end acceleration. If the torque is available down below. No mention of any of these in detail.
@anishghosh95637 ай бұрын
Once a legend said, "The ground clearance was never a problem, you just gotta wheelie it out"
@vamanpolle7 ай бұрын
2 things abt both these bikes- 1. Triumph speed400- wish the brand could give customisation options/accessories lik a TFT dash for an additional cost with some electronic aids 2. Apache rtr310- that exhaust is such an eyesore, for an otherwise good-looking bike.. this bike deserved a better one or evn an underbelly
@sportsoctane7 ай бұрын
Exhaust is not an issue, vibration and built quality is
@bunkoti6 ай бұрын
the gravitational pull of dhanil's legendary belly has been officially confirmed by IISc, Bangalore
@LinusKoli7 ай бұрын
I just got the speed 400 and this the video I was looking for the crux of the matter is I was leaning heavily to buy the rtr but after took test rides rtr just feels very unrefined. Speed is just more bike for the buck.
@sunilmohite57767 ай бұрын
I too bought it in December. At the Triumph had brought back the discount. I was in Navi Mumbai showroom and the TVS showroom is also besides it. My wife noticed yello bike and said this bike is also nice but I won't sit on its rear seat😂 TVS salesman wouldn't even try to sell it whereas Triumph people are so generous with respect to customer satisfaction. I told TVS guy what will be final price, but he was adamant that you are getting good features. I said bro its Triumph. British craftsmanship and aura is involved. He was reluctant to say anything. He didn't even offer a test ride whereas Triumph people gave me test ride every time I visited 😂
@vshariharan50507 ай бұрын
@@sunilmohite5776what's your opinion on ur bike? Faced any issues?
@RajeshChandran817 ай бұрын
No Nonsense Triumph and Full Crazy Apache.. That sums it up all. Brilliant!! 😁
@Arnab43507 ай бұрын
Apaches have always been crazy. That's why they still are running strong in the market.
@RahulYadav-td2xl7 ай бұрын
Please make a video between Speed400 and CB300R
@vjnsvlogs7 ай бұрын
Blindly Honda CB300r is best bike
@nagrajkankonkar7 ай бұрын
Bikes with less than 350 cc have a significant insurance price difference. This should also be accounted for when selecting a bike. Please make a video on this
@RajTheMysteriousBoy7 ай бұрын
Speed 400 🎉 Raw Beast 😮 @2Lakh
@hiteshadhikari7 ай бұрын
3 lakhs
@theinsanewired21097 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Dhanil for this comparison I was just thinking abt ur channel wht if they made a video abt it and u came in with this video I was confused between these 2 and now I got my answer!!!
@ripster367 ай бұрын
TVS 310 engine is so unrefined from the factory. I have ridden a 4 year old Apache RR310 😢. It really sucks man. I rather buy a 10 year old 220 than a 4 year old RR310. That how poor the refinement is ! No wonder they got poor resale value
@kushagrasharma37487 ай бұрын
Pulsars may be a ted more powerful and a little bit more refined But Still Apache has better dynamics and braking than Pulsars including RS and and NS
@ajinkyakore24557 ай бұрын
As apache increased the engine compression i was expecting more vibrations and many reviewers later said the same. So no doubt i will go with triumph
@Thakur_Rohit_Devraj7 ай бұрын
Will not buy any tvs product. Because my first bike was bs4 2015 tvs apache rtr 180. At that time I didn't have any idea about a bike I was a new rider but after 2 years the bike started to have issues in the engine even after maintaining the bike and the mileage was getting worse day by day and the vibrations were horrible literally it was giving massage to my legs and hand 😢😢. Really disappointed with the ownership of tvs. That's why I choose Honda as my next bike.
@NatrajChaturvedi7 ай бұрын
Do a video on weather the premium version of the RTR 310 is worth it over the standard or the mid variant? Is the seat "cooler" any good in our Indian conditions or a gimmick only? How about when you take the price into consideration?
@NaveenKumar-qw8np7 ай бұрын
Why aren't any comparisons for Husqvarna svartpilen 401? Love to see if motorbeam does✨
@rounakbhattacharyya91637 ай бұрын
Took test ride of Speed 400, rtr 310 , cb300r. Speed 400 is best❤🔥
@sdv01d7 ай бұрын
This is such a shallow comparison. First of all, you should never compare on On-Road prices. And nonetheless , Which state/city where you find S400 2k higher prices than base variant of RTR? There is a 10k price difference between them, RTR ex-showroom starts at 2.4 upwards. Also the cooling seat, half of the tech features are on the mid and top variant. Why are you mentioning them when comparing the base variant? Then why not compare Scrambler and Speed vs RTR ?
@kunjithapatham5247 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how anyone in their right mind would choose rtr over speed 400 😅😅
@tech98967 ай бұрын
More features, bigger bike and more service centres
@gaureeshhegde78657 ай бұрын
Okay uncle
@chotu51757 ай бұрын
you gotta ride eme side by side then you'll know the difference in character of both the bike for sure 😉
@rounakbhattacharyya91637 ай бұрын
Speed 400❤🔥
@sandesh92257 ай бұрын
Rtr has better performance I guess
@qwertyme83387 ай бұрын
Yesterday on highway a speed 400 was going all out with head bent in n all, but i still zoomed past him on my rr310🌝
@abhilashreddy95487 ай бұрын
If u can compromise with features go with triumph that feel in acceleration is psych!!
@KillMachine_Rudra8 ай бұрын
Didn’t the blue colour model of the RTR come with an all metal fuel tank.?
@Dkm3377 ай бұрын
i own the blue and there is no metal tank. its all plastic and the only thing you get on blue is gloss blue with no grey panels. looks good and stealthy. about to reach 5000 kms in 1 month, picked up with dynamic and dynamic pro kit. so far. i would say vibration you can mostly feel near 5500-6000 rpm. post that you have to worry about wind pushing you back. reached 160kmph and with the adjustable suspension the ride is so plush it feels like a touring bike. once you live with the bikes the vibes are a non concern.
@KillMachine_Rudra7 ай бұрын
@@Dkm337 but bhai wo expo me bande ne tank pe knock kara tha toh metallic sound aya tha 🥹🥲🥲
@Dkm3377 ай бұрын
@@KillMachine_Rudra hehe, na bro. metal hota to mereko rynox magnum tank bag ko strap se nhi lagana padta. knock karo to wesa metalic type sound aati hai. because reverb.
@hruaizelakisuke7 ай бұрын
Where is CB300r dude? Are you anti-honda fan?
@HappiestLife7 ай бұрын
Triumph looks really boring that's why I went for X440 Harley LOVING IT
@narendrairengbam1123 ай бұрын
Are they same in size, can we call them mid size bikes? Are they as big as Dominar?
@manantrivedi35627 ай бұрын
It's high time now for all the motorcycle companies should really work on mileage and reliability. I mean we pay more and more, but the mileage gets lesser and lesser
@tech98967 ай бұрын
Splendor, CT100, Platina etc are for you 👍
@soumiknandi77 ай бұрын
Do a comparison with the cb300r
@skeet2953 ай бұрын
tvs should have updated the engine, compressions, pistons, cams, looks like bmw is not lifting their calls?
@panshulverma42928 ай бұрын
are you planning on doing more videos on ktm duke 390 ?
@mayank25647 ай бұрын
it'd be great if you compare the speed 400 with mavrick 440
@praveen_28537 ай бұрын
Nothing to compare just go for speed , Maverick looks so cheap for a 400cc
@yuvaprashanth65497 ай бұрын
HondaCB300R is the best sub400 naked motorcycle. Period.
@allenrobinson95207 ай бұрын
No doubt it's the best machine in the sub 300 category but wrongly priced by honda. A brand like triumph offering speed 400 at the same price. Why would anyone in their right mind buy cb300 over s400 .. And before launch of s400 cb300 was 2.9 ex showroom.. honda only slashed prices after speed 400 launched
@ziyaurrahmanqureshi2 ай бұрын
Guys I'm planning to buy apache rtr on my birthday which is in September, so should i wait for update or just buy it. Btw currently I'm riding Karizma r which j bought in 2013!??
@Prashant-fy3xm2 ай бұрын
Bro consider triumph scrambler 400x and duke 390 as well.. TVS service sucks and not good at all..
@ziyaurrahmanqureshi2 ай бұрын
@@Prashant-fy3xm ok bro❤️
@ABVS.8 ай бұрын
Sad 2 see RTR310 get so less media glamour than foreign bikes.. RTR is ours..it is India's answer , offering to other markets. Must b promoted as much as poss. Surely with each iteration it will improve further
@satyamsingh91677 ай бұрын
How? It is a collaboration between TVs and bmw, similarly speed is clab bw Bajaj and triumph
@Ahmed-jv7oc7 ай бұрын
Speed 400 is Indian too.
@saiteja-cg8gz7 ай бұрын
Yup and people are forgetting that we're exporting 400 and 400 x overseas as well@@satyamsingh9167
@praneetrohida86347 ай бұрын
Seems like just spec-sheet and design comparison. No discussion about ride feel, refinement or PD curve. Did not address Speed's vibrations. Did not address that most of Speed's torque is only available in the higher rev-range, where the vibes make it an unpleasant experience. Not your best work MotorBeam.
@Ibexx77 ай бұрын
Did you get that tshirt from Myntra ?
@TheVickysunny7 ай бұрын
That is from soul store
@inside-world7 ай бұрын
Apache 160 rv dual channel abs review
@paulsebastian55617 ай бұрын
Best sub 400cc is actually the ktm duke 390 gen-3. Triumph comes close but the apache needs a lot more work done on it.
@that_yamaha_rider35647 ай бұрын
Seat may ice cream bana kr dikhaona😅
@aswin27367 ай бұрын
Rtr better look🔥🔥
@SandeepSharmaKS7 ай бұрын
Marvelously explained 👍
@krishsingh12617 ай бұрын
But I like Traiph I like this video❤
@podichetisriramsaketh64818 ай бұрын
Waiting for vitpilen 250's review
@Ts-kj7bq8 ай бұрын
No one buys bro🙂
@maybevcouldbe7 ай бұрын
@@Ts-kj7bqwhy not?
@abhishekwankhade65197 ай бұрын
not practical
@assassinerage19097 ай бұрын
Aur 1.5 L extra laga k Aprilia RS457 would be my choice
@allenrobinson95207 ай бұрын
Makes more sense .. but these are neo retro and street fighter bikes. It's wrong to compare it with FF bikes like RS457. Better to figure out ur driving style before buying a new bike
@Pavankumar-vk9yg7 ай бұрын
U should compare husq 401 to speed 400 then it will be correct
@LennoxSmoked4 ай бұрын
If rtr had triumph tail light that would look better
@jagadishdasari64667 ай бұрын
Your background music is very annoying. Please change for upcoming videos!!!
@sportstourerpratz81487 ай бұрын
Tvs works on body more than engine Bajaj works more on engine and forget avout body 😂
@sjcreation22088 ай бұрын
I just love RTR ❤
@tamalsardar93417 ай бұрын
I decided to buy speed 400 in july
@karansinghrathore44797 ай бұрын
Plz any one help me when speed hit priced 2.93 lakh
@RITEISHrocks27 күн бұрын
RTR310 has a more peppy engine which just wants to revv all the way.
@swapnilsaraf50767 ай бұрын
If you're a techie, get a smartphone
@pixelmovieshorts7 ай бұрын
Bro roasted TVS in first minute
@sagnikbiswas89227 ай бұрын
I would have blindly gone for the rtr if i was using the rtr 160. But as a 250 user i am looking for something bigger. I hope tvs comes in with something thats around 500 which i know is very unlikely.
@appleofkarthik5 ай бұрын
Triumph service cost is too high , whereas tvs apache is very cost effective and triumph as front breaking issues , we have to press the lever all the way to maximum end to stop the vehicle. When it comes to the power RTR will beat triumph. Mainly bike is not for only appearance and power, we have to be very clear in service cost for both bikes. Triumph is too expensive in that.
@vishakp762713 күн бұрын
What about refinement and build quality? Does that make more power compared to triumph,see the Top end and intial torque,40 bhp and 37 nm torque In triumph is ❤
@spcomics70067 ай бұрын
Triumph on road price in 282000 Apache its almost 3.2 lakh
@ankitgondalia8 ай бұрын
BIG NO for TVS just for bad engine refinement & aftersales
@pubba25814 ай бұрын
Love to buy a rtr 😭
@Ahmed-jv7oc7 ай бұрын
Speed 400 is the obvious choice, rather get a husky 401 than the rtr 310. Disappointed by tvs.
@sandiprana69757 ай бұрын
Nahh. It looks like an old mt 09 rather than ducatti Street fighter
@rohitsingh-cg1vx6 ай бұрын
what about Value For Money dominar 400 ........oh hate problem ?
@its_aniket13 күн бұрын
Why so dispassionate man... You are not reviewing sofa sets. It feels like you do not want to review but you somehow had to.
@DavidSenna577 ай бұрын
Apache looks like proper machine ‼️, speed 400 looks like RE Hunter 🤦🤦🤡🤡😂😂
@andyrunnyblogs57418 ай бұрын
GREAT 👍
@Ar.BharathChandran.P.S8 ай бұрын
RTR😍
@RaahulJRIgPrimus8 ай бұрын
I love this RTR❤❤
@pravinmurthy7 ай бұрын
Speed 400 ❤
@ridencampp7 ай бұрын
i wish they give 200cc engine to this rtr as that 310 engine from bmw is worst engine in bike industry
@rahhhul187 ай бұрын
other words me: mature bike triumph chappri tvs
@Haribol-Haribol-1087 ай бұрын
apache back seat is too short
@Badvibes1097 ай бұрын
bruh is inflated .. imagine him riding r15 🥸🥸
@sheksp85467 ай бұрын
Speed 400 is cheaper
@kshitijsolanki32957 ай бұрын
I have seen many HD 440x but not a single TR speed 400 I think this is biggest floo bike by bajaj
@HellBoy05087 ай бұрын
Speed looks puny in person
@Syrian-AppacheАй бұрын
Lousy comparision. Not even close
@07et-patolegaurav87 ай бұрын
TVS worst Indian brand. Parts are not available, performance poor👎, we don't want only looks n features, we want performance don't buy any TVS bikes. In that price range there are many good performance bikes are available go with them
@Arnab43507 ай бұрын
TVS is the brand with the best engineers and the worst mechanics.
@GsKatana148 ай бұрын
1st Like 1st Comment
@yourprincecharming9 күн бұрын
RE person would go for triumph ktm person would go for tvs.
@alpha_man4177 ай бұрын
Apache front look is very bad because tvs raider also have same type of front look... If you see yellow raider you will be confused at first