Motorcycle Camping (Motocamping) set up and kit on our CRF300

[@floydbrown2142]

A super conversation on the kit, I want to thank you both and wish you many happy camping trips.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thank you for your lovely comment! Same you you :)

[@coobye]

The Flextail is worth it's weight in gold. It can also be used used to fan a temperamental fire. I always put my chair upside down on my bike seat at night. Keeps the chair seat and the bike seat dry from dew and rain the next morning. I carry a Gomboy as well. We do a lot of bush camping here in Oz and it's already paid for itself. I find a Sawyer filtration kit packs down a lot smaller too. Cheers

[@wanderinghonda7963]

That’s a brilliant idea! It never occurred to me to use it to help a reluctant fire! I’ve also just looked at the Sawyer filtration kit. That looks to be a very good alternative to the solution we use. Thanks 😊

[@weaselteat]

I can attest to that, too. It's great as a little bellows.

[@davidmatthews3093]

I think you are right to carry everything to make your camping stops comfortable. I do. I’ve never seen the point of roughing it just for the sake of it. I mainly tour on a slightly bigger bike and about a year ago changed from using an inflatable mattress to using a modern lightweight camp bed. Like your chair it’s light and folds away into a small bag. It’s quicker to set up and pack away than an air bed and has taken my comfort level to another level. It also lifts you off the ground if it’s cold.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

That’s interesting to hear about the camping cot. It’s something I keep looking at and keep thinking I should get one but when I check the dimensions I don’t think it will fit into our luggage when we’re travelling which is a real shape. It’s good to hear that you find them really comfortable. Maybe one day I’ll look into them again

[@wolf1066]

What camp bed do you use? The one I've got feels like the Temperance League and the Spanish Inquisition teamed up with the Marquis de Sade to come up with the least comfortable thing to lie on other than a bed of burning coals. At the recent Cold Kiwi Motorcycle Rally I used it one night and had a rotten night's sleep, the next night I slept on the floor of the tent with a reflective blanket, and a folded poncho liner underneath me as a makeshift sleeping pad and had a far more comfortable night's sleep. When about a centimetre of padding (uncompressed) against the ground is more comfortable than a camp bed, something's gone cockeyed somewhere. Normally I'd sleep in a hammock but that's not always possible if there are no suitable trees - as was the case at the rally - so I bought the camp bed in the mistaken idea that it'd be more comfortable than sleeping on my Exped Downmat on the ground.

[@davidmatthews3093]

I like your folding kitchen sink but I actually carry a small washing up bowl. My cooking set and loose small items fit inside it. It takes up next to no space and is so useful.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

I keep telling Steph our kitchen sink is it great idea, but I’m not sure if she believes me 😂

[@gnarlybadger690]

Excellent informative video, always interesting to what others use and pack and what is considered essential or luxury 🤣 thanks for sharing 🤘🏻

[@wanderinghonda7963]

😂 we love having a nose into what other people carry! Thanks for the great comment

[@wolf1066]

It's great seeing what other people use. Sure, everyone hikes their own hike and camps their own camp, and there's no universally "right" or "wrong" set up, only what's right or wrong for you, but you can sometimes see something someone else is using and think "hmm, that sounds like a neat idea". You can't know what's out there if you don't see what other people are using (just found out about Armadillo Bags today watching someone else's vid).

[@gerrycout7845]

Great video. Nice setup. I too do moto camping from my CRF300L Rally here in Canada and the States. I carry almost the same things you do BUT I carry it in a 28 litres top box and a 25 litre back pack. Granted there isn’t much in the back pack. My tent is a Copper Spur HVUL 1 which works great. Keeps me warmer too on cool night. When I go camping with my girlfriend, we use a Blacktail Hotel 2 with the “garage” on the side for our gear. Great tent. I don’t have as much cookware admittedly. By the way, your chair is not the Zero. I have a Helinox Chair Zero and it has taller legs. I also carry an Agawa collapsible bow saw for when a fallen tree 🌳 gets in my way and I can’t go around it. Mini axe too. Doubles as a hammer to pin the tent stakes. The pump is a good idea. I have one too. Even better is a pump like mine that doesn’t have a built in battery. It runs on external USB power. It’s tiny like yours but I can run it off the bike or even a power bank. I don’t carry a separate light. I find it redundant. A headlamp is all I need. USB rechargeable of course. I’ve been watching these moto camping videos for years now and it seems like we are all pretty much on the same page. 😃 There’s only so much you can bring on a bike. I also moto camp with my CBR1000RR. Custom made bracket where the passenger seat should be. Give top box and off I go slicing through the canyon roads. 😂 No need to come back at night. 😊 Enjoy your outings. Best of luck to you both.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Good spot on the chair! Thanks for the correction. Steff has the chair zero so I must have been reading her seat bag as I was editing the video After a while and some experience we do all seem to end up with roughly the same kit. Great to hear all about your stuff thanks for the great comments In a couple of weeks I’m heading to Sweden and Norway riding the trans Euro trail for a month or so and my trusty kit will be coming with me 🎉

[@jamesnewman4474]

Awesome video. Great gear. Some very useful ideas for my lifestyle (I’m 73). I think (from experience) that getting rid of your kitchen sink would be foolish. Anything that compact that holds water is an asset.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

I agree. Now we just need to persuade Steff 😆

[@wolf1066]

I thought of buying one of those Sea-to-Summit sinks years ago, but thought "I'm carrying enough stuff as it is" - but now I'm motocamping rather than backpacking, I don't need to worry so much about weight or bulk. Washing in a river isn't always a good idea or practical, so having the means to hold water somewhere it's more convenient to do the washing would be rather useful.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

That Helinox chair is really comfy. There are many camping things you would dispose of at first sight and find out how useful they are afterwards. Happy Easter, Günter/Nürnberg

[@wanderinghonda7963]

That’s so true Günter! If we decide to leave a few luxury items at home to save weight we always end up regretting it. Have a lovely Easter weekend

[@enduromotorradtouren]

@@wanderinghonda7963 You got the space on your Rallys, so why leave the good stuff at home? Of course, only if you're heavier laoded than a GS ;-) Have a sunny Easter weekend, Günter (not TET France section 13 this weekend for me, still have a cold)

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Get well soon Günter!

[@wolf1066]

That particular chair has been on my shopping list for a while now. I usually use my hammock as a chair so I don't generally "need" a chair - except that a folding chair would be portable and enable me to sit somewhere other than in my hammock under the tarp - like over by a campfire that I've lit a safe distance from my tarp, or near some view that's not visible from my hammock. It would also be somewhere to put my gear up off the wet ground while I'm in the hammock and, as Steff pointed out in the video, it's a handy place to put stuff while you're striking camp. I have taken a cheap folding outdoor chair when I've been camping with the kids and it *_did_* come in handy as storage for my pack or a place where one of the kids could sit next to my hammock under the tarp and look out at the rain...

[@enduromotorradtouren]

@@wolf1066 That Helinox chair might be costly. But worth every penny on a longer trip. The price you pay for the European original. Happy days, Günter/Nürnberg

[@fenner-g6088]

Good vid as usual guys so keep them coming. Just wanted to add a comment about using a pump to inflate the mattresses. I'm a pump user as well because experience has shown that inflating them with warm moist breath can cause mould to form inside 😮 I've seen a few expensive mattresses with visible black staining showing through from the mould growth inside them, which doesn't effect the way the mattress performs, but doesn't look great, and not nice to look at on your 200 squid purchase !

[@wanderinghonda7963]

That’s a brilliant point that we forgot to mention! Lovely to hear from a fellow pump user!

[@lizdg3892]

That cooking kit was brilliant. All appropriate gear.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

We love our cooking kit 😀 Thanks for the lovely comment

[@ianseddon9347]

Just found your channel- very good! I use my cycle camping stuff for moto camping, so it seems easy when you don’t have to pedal! I agree about the chair it’s no longer a luxury item now I’m almost seventy.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks, glad you’re enjoying it! Motocamping at 70, awesome. I’m feeling the pain at approaching 60 😂

[@Theorangeman.]

The flextail is very essential. I use dry bags for clothes and inner tent and i use inflatable mats. Flextail is a game changer for blowing up but also sucking everything down small

[@wanderinghonda7963]

We hadn’t even thought about using it to suck the air out of stuff. Thanks 😊

[@Theorangeman.]

@@wanderinghonda7963 it gets your mattress and dry bags extra squished

[@Bowlin01]

Thank goodness I’m not the only one”feet sticker out the bottom’ person on Earth!!! 😂🤣

[@wanderinghonda7963]

😂 Steff thinks I’m weird. I think I’m normal

[@LongPondNH]

My wife and I have much of the same kit for our moto camping. We upgraded our Reckless 80s to Backcountry 35 panniers and it was life changing. Massively more convenient and the storage is in a much more useful shape. Heavier, but worth it. We have the "bikepacking" version of the Copper Spur tent. Great because the poles are very short and packs the same length of the tent bag. We also use the Sea to Summit cookware and we really like it. The only thing we didn't like and stopped using was the cup because it smelled strongly of silicone whenever a hot drink was in it. Try the Gerber complEAT eating utensil set. It's the Swiss army knife of KFS kits. Super handy. Thanks for the great video!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks for the brilliant tips on the kit you use 😊 the bike packing version of the tents with the short poles is brilliant isn’t it. That’s my “solo” tent Thanks for the comment and keep enjoying our videos 🎉

[@themartiandefender2128]

Camping kits definitely evolve over time ! Little air pumps are a must, also stop potential bacterial build up during blowing up by mouth and that then freezing in cold temperatures apparently!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

It’s really interesting hearing other people’s experience. When we did the video we were certain that people wouldn’t get why we have the little pump. It just seems such a gimmick It appears that it’s not just us that love it! Thanks for the comment 😊

[@wolf1066]

You exhale a lot of moisture when you breathe out or blow - not great for a down-filled insulated pad to be filling up with damp air. Air pump is definitely the way to go - and an electric one would be so much better than the hand pump I've got on my Exped.

[@GSHants]

Some great kit, and agree we too seem to have accumulated a fair few ‘sea to summit’ items unintentionally. On the water filter front we carry a sawyer mini, purely for an emergency if had been unable or forgotten to get bottled, which works fine, but for the most part have always found bottled water available. Thanks guys for an informative and well put together video.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Perfect timing with your comment. I’m going to look into the sawyer mini although I seem to remember it’s a filter as opposed to a purifier. I’m just on my way back (Simon) through Scandinavia were I’ve been using my water filter extensively to collect water from lakes etc I wish I could find a smaller solution to the one we use but unfortunately very few remove viruses (norovirus etc) Most are water filters (remove bacteria etc) but not water purifiers (which also remove viruses) I suspect the search continues but as you quite rightly say 99% of the time bottled water work a treat 😊 Thanks for such a lovely comment and happy camping (glad we’re not the only ones who seem to have collected a load of sea to summit stuff!)

[@GSHants]

@@wanderinghonda7963 they have different grades, I’m sure there’s one that does just about everything. Good luck thru Scandinavia, look forward to it.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Cheers! I’ll look into it 😊

[@wolf1066]

I'd argue that a tarp is an essential, especially with tents that have to have the inner put up before the rain fly... if it's hosing down, you can set up the tent under the tarp without filling the interior with water, put the rain fly on the tent and - because it's a freestanding tent that you can pick up and move as one piece - you can move the tent out from under the tarp when it's fully rainproof. And having a tarp to sit under and _be able to look around you_ when it's raining is vastly superior to being stuck in a tent with the flaps zipped down and nothing to see but the inside of a ripstop nylon dome.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

I’m sort of in agreement. We always carry one because when it’s wet it makes life so much better and way more pleasant! (recently got back from Sweden and Norway with plenty of wild camping and it was biblical rain at times 😂) I was allowing a little wriggle room for people who are exceptionally tight on space or felt strongly a tarp was too much hassle Thanks for the comment 😊

[@wolf1066]

@@wanderinghonda7963 "Biblical Rain" - sounds like here in New Zealand 🤣 Seems like the days are gone when I could head out and be fairly sure the weather wouldn't turn nasty part way through the night. A good camp is one where the rain holds off long enough to get shelter set up. I switched to hammock-and-tarp camping and I think that I've only had one camp where it *_didn't_* rain since the switch from tent camping. But at least I can lie in my hammock, look out into the rain and think "Good thing I'm not out in that." Anyhow, cheers for the reply, really enjoying your video - earned you a subscriber.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

New Zealand - that is in our top spot at the minute to explore. What a beautiful part of the world you live in! The hammock and tarp set-up fascinates me. It looks so comfortable and yet so potentially uncomfortable all at once 😂 If you get around to watching the Sweden/Norway series there was a guy who threw up his hammock next to me while wild camping and I was jealous of his ultra lightweight set up!

[@wolf1066]

@@wanderinghonda7963 The hammock is really comfy - for one person - once you get used to how to set it up and lie in it properly (diagonally across it for a flat lay rather than lying lengthwise and being curved like a banana). Great for old farts like me who find crawling into and out of tents (and physically getting up off the ground) a bit of a mission these days - I can walk under the tarp, sit down on the hammock, swing my legs up and lie down. Getting out of a hammock's the opposite procedure. Definitely will check out your Sweden/Norway series. I love seeing different parts of the world people camp in. If you come to New Zealand and are anywhere near the Manawatū or Waikato regions, gi'z a shout and I'll point you in the direction of some good places to visit. Lived in the Waikato more years than I care to remember, currently living in the Manawatū.

[@lmankj]

A lot of great tips, thanks and enjoy your travels.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks so much. Glad it was helpful. The camping kit got good use in the current Scandinavian series and held up well. We’re currently in Africa and left the camping kit behind for this particular journey Thanks for the lovely comment 😊

[@rbean481]

Its so nice to see ityems ive added to my future camoing trip featured on your Video. Lovely to see you back you happy couple.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Canoeing trip? That sounds wonderful, we’ve never canoed but it always looks to be so peaceful. Enjoy! 😊

[@Corey-pd3mi]

Steph: You brought everything but the kitchen sink Simon: Hold my beer 😂

[@wanderinghonda7963]

😂😂😂

[@martinhughes6410]

So.. I am looking at taking on my 1st solo camping trip next year to Norway. I have been abroad on my motorbike before but stopped in AirBnB.....you video has been the most informative one i have found as i research kit.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks for such a nice comment. We don’t often do review kind of videos as our passion is travelling but I’m glad you found it helpful. We’re definitely not saying our kit is right for everyone but it works for us 😊 When we get back from Portugal (it’ll be a month or two before we get get off our lazy asses and edit the video 😆) after a few weeks back in the uk I’m off riding the TET in Sweden and Norway so hopefully that’ll be a preview for you 🎉 Sounds like you’ve got an awesome trip planned next year!

[@wolf1066]

The "Sea-to-Summit" comment got a laugh - I'd noticed how much stuff of theirs you seem to have. It is, as you say, good stuff - I have some of their gear, because it's good and we had a local store that stocked a lot of Sea-to-Summit stuff. There are recurring brands amongst my gear, too.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

It only occurred to me how much sea to summit we have when Steff pointed it out 😂

[@wolf1066]

@@wanderinghonda7963 After it was pointed out, it was fun noticing all the other Sea-to-Summit things in the vid. The Sea-to-Summit sink was something I briefly considered and rejected years ago as "I carry enough camping gear" - but is now being *reconsidered* as I'm motocamping and don't have the same constraints as when I was backpacking and it's not always practical to wash stuff at/in a river.

[@bobh4981]

Great video on your Motorcycle camping setup. I totally agree with making sleep a priority as if you are not well rested, accidents do happen. I do a lot of long distance hiking as well as bike trips so there is some crossover but the bike kit is slightly bulkier and heavier. For this I tend to use 2x pillows attached to the mat to prevent sliding off. I have and have used many sleeping bags and for motorcycle trips have settled on the Therm-a-rest Questar 20, lots of room for side sleepers. I use this with the Big Agnes Rapide sleeping pad, which is quiet to sleep on and has a good R rating. For cooking I have the trangia setup with a few extras (plate, frying pan etc) that pack into the original design. Have multiple cooking systems but always come back to this for long trips. I have a gas and multi fuel cooker for this, depending on foreseen availability. Flexitail pump a must, as now a new convert.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks for your comment. Absolutely everything you say makes sense and some great kit ideas. I always love the idea of the trangia but for some reason it never quite works for us. I’m sure it’s user error but it turns everything black no matter what fuel I try 😂 The flextail is awesome isn’t it! Thanks again for your great comments 😊

[@bobh4981]

@@wanderinghonda7963 That happens when using the original Trangia fuel stove. However Trangia do a gas stove that fits inside and I also have a Primus Omnifuel stove with the trangia conversion to fit inside. That will run on Petrol, Gas or Naphtha.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Good set up! As we title this we’re just loading the bikes to set off to Cornell tomorrow for a well to ride the Trans Euro Trail (and of course camp 🏕️ 🎉) Ride safe and thanks for all the info

[@nigelbush7255]

Very enjoyable and I will definitely check out the pillow / pump/ bag liner thanks again

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks! Just got back from Norway with plenty of wild camping. Our weird love affair with the mini pump thing continues 😂 Thanks for the lovely comment

[@renatolourinho2636]

Found your channel yday while researching the Pyrenees ACT, and coincidentally drove past you guys through Manteigas today in Serra da Estrela! Your CRFs are def remarkable! Keep up the good work, enjoying your videos!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

What a small world! Thanks for your lovely comments. If you do the Pyrenees ACT have a fantastic time, we loved it ❤️

[@porter5877]

Feet have to be out of the sleeping bag!! Im a side sleeper and its a right faff at night time....

[@wanderinghonda7963]

😂 Good to know Simon isn’t the only oddball!

[@jasonadler6152]

Great video and I love the set up! I ride a CRF 450L and this is applicable to my style of riding as well. Thanks and keep it up.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Cheers! Thanks for the lovely words. The 450 is a lovely bike 😊

[@twowheelRoz]

Really good video. Look forward to your next adventure!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks for the lovely comment 😊

[@steveh100]

Love seeing stuff! I have the msr whisperlight, similar to yours and while it isnt the smallest, carrying gas cannisters and hoping they last is annoying. Totally agree with the little pump... blowing them up with anything else allows moisture and gunk to get in. Mine has a bag to squeeze air into it... I think its exped, wish Id gone for a wider mat but its good in any weather. The pillow... definately an essential for me, as is a chair, but I have yet to find ones i like... might bite the bullet and get the exped mega pillow and the helinox chair at some point this year.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Brilliant that someone else finds a good pillow an essential! We got that pillow recommended by someone who camps constantly and I’m so glad I bought it. Thanks for saying hi 😊

[@thetogclan3386]

Hi, I've enjoyed watching your adventures over the months and miles, but I have a question about the bikes if possible. Are they running stock suspension or have they received any modifications to either front or rear considering the additional gear you carry? Travel Safe.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Thanks for the comment 😊 The suspension has been upgraded front and rear as the original suspension was a little soft (rideable for sure but not ideal for us) We’ve got a bike review video on the channel with all the mods we did (which wasn’t that many but the suspension was the biggest) Cheers S&S

[@liven4happynus115]

​@@wanderinghonda7963thank you

[@davemartin4456]

Great video thanks very much very helpful

[@wanderinghonda7963]

It’s our absolute pleasure. As we answer this, I’m currently wild camping in Sweden on the trans euro Trail. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Thanks for the lovely comment 😊

[@guille_snapshooter]

good thing you have the sea to summit pan, cause we use the bowl to stir fry some stuff, like bacon and eventually failed, it has to be used with liquids always otherway the silicone split between the aluminium

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Great reminder about not using the bowl to dry fry stuff. Thanks. 😊

[@acamparargentina]

When i am out there camping 100% of my cooking is done with wood fire (yes, even if it's raining hard). I wonder if those silicon things would be able to stand exposure to direct heat/flames. Ohh, and by the way, a camping chair is not a luxury item, not by far. It is a basic need

[@wanderinghonda7963]

It impressive you always cook on fire. That takes some skill! The latest series on the channel travelling through Scandinavia wild camping and I never once cooked just on the fire, I’d burn everything 😂 In answer to your question I’m afraid the cookware I use wouldn’t be any use on a fire. The bases are obviously fine to cook on but you can’t have flame on the side Couldn’t agree more about the chair being a necessity, even more so as we get older 😂

[@jimmydickson8854]

You’ve done well enjoy your trips life is short

[@wanderinghonda7963]

We feel exactly the same about life being short. Thanks for your comment 😊

[@jsiedlecki5331]

Hi, thank you for sharing your knowledge on your camping set up. Some really good advice that im going to look into. Greatly appreciated. Just a quick question about your sleeping bag. Do you use the -1 version or the -9 one? Looks a great bag, just what im after for a comfy night. Looking forward to watching all your back catalog of videos. Really inspiring. Best wishes to you both for all your future adventures 😊🌎🖐️

[@wanderinghonda7963]

It’s our pleasure, thanks for such nice comments. The bag we have is the “Sea To Summit Ascent ACII” and if memory serves it has a “comfort temperature rating” of -4° and “lower temperature rating” of -10° I hope that helps, if not feel free to drop us a line again

[@Denmark_1974]

The tiny pump is great.

[@wanderinghonda7963]

It really is 😆

[@3h33am]

Cool video, informative and well edit”d, just one thing, too much on screen text at various locations at once, it gets very distracting. Keep up the good work!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

A very valid comment and good feedback, thanks. Review type videos or kit type videos are not something we tend to do so it’s not my usual style of editing and I probably went over the top on text. Our main passion is travelling and adventure riding but sometimes we get so many requests from people about a specific subject that we try and cover it in a video. Thanks for such constructive feedback. If we end up doing another review type video I’ll definitely bear that in mind. 👍🏼

[@nobodyshero200]

Head torch!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

When you say head torch we assume you mean you carry a head torch and find it useful? It was an oversight, we actually carry one but it isn’t packed into our camping bags as we take them even when we aren’t camping. Thanks for the reminder

[@pajaranga67]

👍

[@nobodyshero200]

JHC. Money to burn on the sleeping mat!

[@wanderinghonda7963]

Money to burn? We’ve camped in sub zero temperatures and find it very good insulation in those temperatures 🤷🏻‍♂️ As we say in the video, this is OUR setup and won’t be perfect for YOUR set up. We definitely don’t have money to burn it simply works for us. Thanks for the comment though 😊