Motorcycle chain maintenance tips while traveling

cleaning and adjusting your chain while traveling can be a challenge. Here are my best tips for how I clean and adjust the chain on my traveling motorcycle both local and internationally. On this trip I am riding my 2020 KTM 790 Adventure R
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[@DIDDirtStarNorthAmerica]

Excellent video!

[@Chris-yy7qc]

What about lubricating the chain after cleaning? Yes theres o rings and yes theres grease inside. Nevertheless you need to lube the area where the chain is running on the sprockets. Or it will wear prematurely. I think Diesel ist only sufficient for cleaning, but not for lubricating. Infact the lubrication properties are not very good and it will be hurled off the chain after a few miles. Thats why chain grease is a thick, sticky grease.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I’ve went from not knowing how to change my own oil to doing all work myself, service included, just by watching free youtube videos. HUGE thanks to Bret and the other fantastic people in this community, I’m very grateful.

[@GratefulOverlander]

You Tube University

[@Cheezmonka]

@@GratefulOverlander Hugely underrated comment haha. If only potential employers understood just how much knowledge can be gained from sources other than certification programs and schools. Not to devalue those things as they provide consistent and predictable rhetoric to students which can be very valuable to a business when training new recruits, but I wish the world were at least a bit more open-minded and willing to test people and let them prove themselves before denying even the chance of an interview if someone doesn't have a piece of paper with a nice stamp on it.

[@AuRowe]

@@Cheezmonka facts, man… I was one of the most not mechanically inclined men I have ever known. But after doing my own maintenance on cars and bikes for the last 3 to 4 years thanks to a local mechanic I had who would make sure I learned how to do whatever he was working on, feels good man. He just thought it was pathetic I didn't know how to do anything. He would go on and on about how he's had his own mechanic shop for 30 years and learned how to do everything by reading the books himself no schooling. He even had certified diesel mechanics texting him about various new model trucks. Anyways, feels good to not get robbed by the mechanic anymore. Had a car blow up on me after a oil change and realized it might have been the fault of the teenagers who I trusted with my car. Never again.😂

[@theTenthlife]

That aluminum side stand is freaking genius, I can't tell you how many times I've been sweating through my gear pushing my bike around on the side of a road to clean the chain on a trip.

[@Igor12822]

or maybe just put a center stand, and all those problems are gone forever? Every single bike I had, also had a center stand on it...especially big adv bikes...

[@theTenthlife]

@@Igor12822 I've never had one, it sucks. Believe me, I always think about adding one but haven't gotten around to it. The bike I use as a travel bike now has a crash cage that (I think) precludes the addition of a center stand so I remain stuck without.

[@Xplorer.Adventures]

I don't know what happened with Moto Trek and I don't care. Good to see You back, Bret. Keep on the good work.

[@marshallfischer3667]

Motor track hired Brett and Brad had other things to do so....

[@Egg1456]

Gotta say i prefer the low key presentation

[@danmiezejeski7735]

Did you do three separate setups and takes for the drive-away sequence at the end? That's dedication at the end of a tiring day.

[@BretTkacs]

I used two cameras and did 4 exits to get those shots... Thanks for noticing the effort

[@danmiezejeski7735]

@@BretTkacs Thanks for the great content.

[@DigitalJeremy]

Great observation

[@G58]

Bret Tkacs “Production Values!” movie quote. 😎

[@BarryMDHo]

Great video! Thx! I use a small squeeze bottle of chain cleaner, toothbrush, and small spray can of chain wax, stored in a ziplock bag with some folded blue HD paper towels, and a mini Snapjack axle stand (with a velcro brake lever strap). When available I go to a wand car wash bay, clean the chain with the chain cleaner, brush and HD paper towel, then wash the bike including a light spray/rinse off of the chain, then dry, being sure not to spray too much water pressure on key areas. I finish with waxing the chain using a cloth to limit any over spray of the wax on the wheel or other parts of the bike. Good time to check the tire tread condition and for any debris in the tread (screws/nails) as well as air pressures. I also use a clean wet micro cloth while washing to clean my helmet, and outer gear of any bugs and such. Then voila, bike and gear clean, chain clean and lubed (adjusted if needed), and ready to go. I've got the process down to about 20 minutes in total. Add a few minutes for gas, washroom, drink/snack, and passer-by chat time of course. Nothing like having the bike and gear all tended to and clean, gas tank full, empty bladder (and/or bowel), and a cool soothing drink in hand, nesting at the bike, taking in the local flair, and conversations that inevitably ensue. Great topic! Thx! 😉👍

[@tHaH4x0r]

Great video! One more remark though, when checking chain tension, check it at multiple points. Often chains can stretch and chains wear sort uneven, and you can have different amounts of slack depending on where it sits. So by going checking all along the chain you can figure out the tightest point to prevent accidentally over (or under) tightening.

[@Intissaarr]

Haha "How to never pay again for chain lube & cleaner by stealing diesel"

[@Chris-yy7qc]

More like "How to clean your chain by stealing diesel and ruin it by not greasing it afterwards".

[@Zeth2571]

@@Chris-yy7qc You can see the pump was active so he did pay. Also, it is a sealed chain so you don't grease them. You're only trying to keep it clean from dirt and rust. A plain chain would need to be greased for sure. On top of all that, it is in the title "tips while traveling". This is just for on the go and not for normal maintenance.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

@@Zeth2571 Youre wrong. Youre supposed to lubricate the outside of the rollers of the chain using chain grease, because they get in contact with the sprockets and both would otherwise wear quickly (metal on metal). Absolutely every motorcycle owners handbook tells you to do that periodically, lol. Never read one?

[@Don2006]

@@Chris-yy7qc A minor nuance: The pressure of the chain on the sprocket will cut through any lubricating film between roller and sprocket within just a few revolutions. Trying to avoid metal-on-metal contact there is futile. This inevitability is why rollers were designed on the first place. But lubrication IS needed to keep the roller rolling.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

@@Don2006 Interesting theory. Its wrong tho.

[@cyclopathic998]

Thank you! Several very good tips was impressed with velcro (I keep bungee in pocket), homemade trail stand and especially ingenious use of diesel.

[@paul.vanhout57]

Those nitrile gloves have become a rare commodity! Diesel is great idea - didn’t think of that one.

[@cplegrand]

Look for venom steel gloves. You can get them on Amazon or some hardware stores still, though they were restricted distribution items for a bit. They are pretty indestructible also. I can wear a single pair all afternoon working on the bike.

[@markgilder9990]

Paraffin or Kerosine also works well.😎

[@lewybody]

Always get the best, most clearly explained, and useful information from @Bret Tkacs. Thanks for all you do!

[@adamwilson1125]

I built that little Jack stand from this video. It works great man. Thanks

[@robhart3451]

Great vid, thank you. In addition to the velcro strap for the front brake , I have a champagne cork. This I put between the grip & lever & then velcro it tight when I don't want the front brake accidentally pulled, for example if I have the front wheel off. Once bitten twice shy...🤦‍♂️

[@stevenc3809]

Your best video to date! I tour on an R6 & chain maintenance has always been an issue. I'd skip the cleaning and just lube due to the mission involved. Your DIY side stand is a great idea. Thanks for thr video!

[@LuckyNikitaBoba]

You’re a naive. What happens to the oil when the bike is moving? Yes, it gets thrown off the chain. This is why they invented the o-ring chains. You don’t need to lube the damn o-ring chain.

[@Herzankerkreuz67]

@@LuckyNikitaBoba Even an o or x ring chain will last you longer when cleaned and lubed. Low cost, high efficient way is to use w 120 transmission oil. But if you can economically afford to buy new sets of chain and sprockets frequently, of course you can skip chain maintenance for the most part. Safe rides 👍🏍

[@bmwsjt]

@@LuckyNikitaBoba You're not thinking it through, a little lube on the chain lubricates where the chain touches the sprockets, and the chain and the sprockets will last longer, and a chain oiler will make the process much easier...

[@grumpy_cat1337]

@@bmwsjt Yeah, whatever you spray on it gets pushed away and flings off the chain during the first minutes of your ride. Just cleaning with diesel adds moist to the rubber seals and gives enough anti-corrosion coating.

[@bmwsjt]

@@grumpy_cat1337 lol, that's not true at all. Some will fling off, but the chain and the sprockets maintains an oil film. Oil your chain, drive for a couple hours, then rub your finger on your chain and sprocket. You'll get oil on your finger.

[@RideWithRay]

Absolutely necessary to learn this if you are targeting long distance travel anytime

[@Chris-yy7qc]

Thanks for that nice video. But you need to lube the chain after cleaning. You got the whole x/o-ring thing wrong. Yes theres o rings and yes theres grease inside. Nevertheless you need to lube the area where the chain is running on the sprockets. Or it will wear prematurely. Diesel ist only sufficient for cleaning, but not for lubricating.

[@someone46018]

Gear oil should do it, don't waste money on chain lube, that's snake oil.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

​@@someone46018 Haha, youre completely wrong. Chain grease is super sticky grease so it stays on the chain. Gear oil will just fly off (leaving your chain dry after a few miles) and then lube your tire real good... Dont save money on the wrong things...

[@someone46018]

@@Chris-yy7qc My Honda asks for gear oil for the chain on the manual. Look for F9's video about chain lube.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

​@@someone46018 Probably pretty old honda. Back in the day things were different because there was no better solution. Now there is a better solution. Using gear oil on chains is like living in a cave. Maybe you want to change your engine oil to castor oil, too? Castor oil was the sht in the 50s.

[@TommyNitro]

@@Chris-yy7qc Watch Ryan F9's video on it.

[@kidlatazul]

For what it's worth: At the Cleveland international motorcycle show last February I asked the representative at the Kawasaki display about chain maintenance on long trips. (I was planning to ride my Honda VFR800 on Route 66 across the country this year, but COVID-19 had other ideas.) The rep told me that cleaning an O-ring chain on a road bike isn't that critical. Every day or two, and especially after riding in rain, just make sure to lube the chain with a quality product and you should be good to go he said, even for thousands of miles. Possibly this is different for off-road riding. Unless he was trying to drum up business for the service department, this seemed like reasonable advice. Next year I hope to apply it.

[@sonyyoung1036]

I ride a Versys650 with original chain > 20k km on it. I lube it with gear oil once a month but never cleaned it before lubing. I learned this from an old bike mechanic.

[@mrrogersrabbit]

Keep a luggage scale with your tools. That way when you need to torque the axle nut, you can hook the scale to your wrench/ratchet and measure the torque using t=force * length.

[@CoachSteve4u]

Thank you Bret.Honestly, you give the best, most complete and professional advice on adventure riding than any other channel. I'm always amazed at how much I learn from you for what seems like simple maintenance. New takeaways: 1) Diesel fuel is a great cleaner. And protector too. 2) You can get it for free! 3) Use a velcro strap to hold the front brake. 4) Use a tooth brush to clean. 5) Use a rag to wipe. 6) Chain maintenance should be done every 500 miles. 7) I bought a motorcycle stand from Amazon that works great but I see now I didnt need to do that. What I like about my stand, however, is that it is very stable and it doesnt weigh too much.

[@josereal3780]

Genius!!! Now, that’s a travel tip!!!- I was at one of the military courses you taught some time ago, always a pleasure Bret !

[@BretTkacs]

I'm glad I still sharing with you then. The Military (motorcycle) Mentor Training is even better now then when you took it. 👍

[@ericleger8158]

@@BretTkacs THAN when you took it...

[@emmelone]

This tip is very helpful, and thanks for the tip. I just got me a new bike and while it's important to follow manufacturer guide for every vehicle, it's also important to follow the instructions of people who had something for a long time and learn from their experience. Thanks a lot.

[@ibidu1]

When checking chain slack, its best to check with the bike on the ground and suspension compressed, you can simply lean over the sit and push it down. But before, put the bike in 1st gear and roll it back to get the slack out of the top and into the botttom, then measure applying load to the seat. If you check it without load it may or may not add more chain slack. But when you do compressed u factor in for hitting bumps. If you hit a bump and your chain is too tight then your chain becomes your suspension. For care, I like to use chain wax once a month, but after every ride I lube with regular oil. The wax spray helps keep the rust off the sides, and the daily oil keeps the chain lubricated nicely. My chains last a good long time, and they dont stretch much.

[@michals2370]

It depends on the bike. Some manufacturers recommend checking tension with suspension loaded, while others prefer unloaded. Always check the manual.

[@ibidu1]

@Jeff Greenspon All you use is wax? If so its best to oil it lightly after every ride when the chain is hot. I use a squirt bottle/slanted tip the kind that you squeeze, its filled with oil. After I park the bike from a ride, I put it on the stands and spin the back wheel by hand, while the tip of the bottle is gliding and oiling the chain. I do this on the inside and outer chain, then with a dirty rag wipe off the access. Only takes me no more then a minute.

[@MrTuckerbox]

@@ibidu1 have you tried using a paint brush, what i use with gear oil.

[@ibidu1]

@@MrTuckerbox I use an angled tip squirt dispenser, I think its used for dish soap. Its full of used engine oil from previous oil changes. While the bikes on the stand, I give her a quick squirt and wipe off the access, so it doesnt sling off. Takes me a minute or so! My new chain from RK has what i think is a black plastic caps on each link, which is great because now the chain doesnt need to be waxed to keep the rust off. Just a bit more pricey

[@severusgeo]

Really great video :) Also thank you, that you speak an easy-accent english, so foreigners also can understand!

[@martin72345]

7:55 Not to mention wear out your counter-shaft bearings which is opening up the engine to replace. Another great informative short video. I really like the new format.

[@BretTkacs]

I had quite the monolog about that which I edited out for time.

[@BretTkacs]

Oh... and I'm glad you like the new format. I wanted to make all of you feel like you are with me. I like the personal feel. The subscriber numbers will tell if it's just us or if others agree

[@kimjongryan9043]

@@BretTkacs Thankfully, I just stumbled onto your personal channel via recommended vids on the side - instantly subscribed because I loved your Mototrek vids. I would suggest maybe a quick, polished intro to hook new viewers and then just keep doing what you're doing. Good keywords & phrases in the title & "show more" section could help boost views too. Good luck building up the channel - you deserve tons of viewers.

[@byrdt6528]

Another great video! I’m glad to see your private channel coming along brother. I just bought my first bike, so all of the skills I’ve learned from you are coming in handy. Thanks!!

[@jamesmcpeake3235]

Excellent! daily cleaning and lubrication of the chain will make your chain and sprockets last much longer, and cause the bike to run more smoothly....

[@superdukerandy]

That angle iron/wingnut lift is slick.

[@TiroxSnapJack]

@@599Honda New XTrail coming soon...thanks for your purchase.

[@ericleger8158]

Except it's actually angle aluminum, not angle iron... just to be clear

[@quintennobbe]

I love this video. I come back to it every now and then to check if I am still doing it correct.

[@ChristophRitschard]

Thanks for the idea of the "center stand". Made it yesterday and it works perfectly !

[@BretTkacs]

I'm glad you found something to take away from this 👍😁

[@eztyson]

Goldmine of little tricks and tips there. I love the Velcro strap 🙌🙌

[@Ed-lz4jv]

Just ordered a BMW F750 GS, glad I added the Centerstand option , learning all about chain maintenance, my last 4 bikes wear shaft or belt drive....good Idea to learn what to do on long trips, good video

[@1dancier]

Been after a vid on chain maintenance while travelling for ages, great work.

[@BretTkacs]

I'm glad you found this 😁👍

[@sonyyoung1036]

Great simple tips. I learned from a veteran bike mechanic/shop owner that lubing the chain with gear oil is important but cleaning it is unnecessary. I lube my original chain on a Versys650 once a month and it has over 20k km on it. Although the chain is not sparkling clean, it is still in great condition. Just a thought that is contrary to popular belief.

[@toddthepanamericanbrooks888]

This is one of my favorites Bret! I really like the use of diesel that is left in the hose and the extra stand to get the rear wheel up is really cool. The other thing I like here is the discussion about how "O" ring chains have internal lubricant but still need to be cleaned and maintained on the outside. Great discussion on chain slack and why you don't want to make it too tight! Keep 'em coming Bret!

[@amerpaisa6920]

I’ll defiantly be staying with my “shaft drive” gsa. While my riding buddies are performing their daily routine chain maintenance after an exhausting ride, I’m already showered and into my first cerveza. Ride safe.

[@damiansmigielski]

I’ll stay with my ST 1100 😈😈😈😈

[@norbert_engel]

Definitely a reason for me to switch at some point😬

[@sjaakvandam2170]

Good luck following a 790 on a trail though.

[@czaszi]

If shaft brakes on a trail, it might be more difficult to get parts than chain and sprockets. Shaft might last for a very long time but if it brakes it is costly to repair (and thats the shaft, if something happens to the final drive that is another expensive part). Saves on maintenance but for chains you can get scottoiler which reduces the maintenance. From what I read shafts reduce power output on rear tyre by 30% of what is generated at the engine, chains approx 15%.

[@krisdecoussemaker140]

Hi Bret. I've been watching your video's for the last 9 months after I bought my KTM 790 Adv R. Never having done any off-road/adventure riding they have been great to get met started and get the some of the basics. (I used to panic when I saw gravel or sand when on my HP2 MM). I was stoked when you swapped your GS for the 790 R. Still a log way to go on the adventure skills, but Australia is just the best place to go out in nature with the bike. Learning new skills and enjoying nature on a really nice set up bike is the best. Please keep your channel going. Thank you. Kris, Sydney.

[@vironpayne3405]

I made the classic crutch stand. The bolt that went through the hand handle is bent at about 45°, so I can stick the one threaded end into the top of the crutch stand and the other head end gets stuck through a hole in the engine bash plate to lift the front wheel. I know o-ring chains are sealed and permanently lubricated, but I still lubricate with Pam vegatable oil spray after riding and brushing. The schedule is every tank which is about 175mi-200mi. I can feel the chain turn slightly freer as I lube, but I know its all thrown off within a few miles, but the chain has a wet look for about 150mi and it doesn't gunk up with sand and grime that trash the o-rings. Using diesel scavanged from the pump is brillant.

[@laurieberg2880]

Great video Brett. I fitted a Moto Briiz auto oiler dispensing chain oil. I use a rag and WD-40 or diesel / kerosene for cleaning.

[@SigmaSheepdog]

Two great ideas! I have two travel bikes, a Super Tenere (shaft drive) and a KTM 990 ADV S (chain drive.) Sure, the low maintenance of a shaft drive is nice, but quite honestly I don't find chain maintenance to be a big deal at all and I cannot remember the last time I had to make a chain adjustment while on a trip.

[@dafarley9662]

Hey Bret, the stand tip is golden. Thanks

[@BretTkacs]

I'm glad you like that tip...

[@kdmorgan9826]

I've used a piece of rope or tow strap tied off to a tree to pull and prop up the bike while lifting the rear wheel off the ground. Works pretty well in a pinch but I like your idea too.

[@airfoil]

Trundling up and shaking some drops out of the diesel dispenser was rather cheeky! Not sure how well it would go down in certain places.

[@Tonyx.yt.]

i always shaking drops of fuel once a ended refueling my car or motorcycle :D so none is left for the next one, but at least they didnt drop on their vehicle...

[@curlybill3966]

Buy some gas!

[@nderezic]

Thanks to tips like we can save us from getting ripped of by mechanics. It's always good to know how to do stuff DIY especially when on the road!

[@jps8941]

Excellent video I can just imagine the store clerk wondering what the heck I'm doing playing around the diesel pumps. But watching your video, definitely confirm my decision to get a shaft adventure bike. It's all about minimalize on the bike and if I can eliminate that stuff to clean the chain will make the trip a lot easier for me.

[@pjakszentis]

I installed scotoiler on my 690 R, chain is always clean and slightly lubricated. The wear & tear is substantially reduced, chain slack adjustment is very rarely required, depending on weather and/or track conditions.

[@sharifsircar]

I was thinking you'd get back into the petrol station from the other side or something to pick up all the rolling gear, but nope full commit for the proper ending transition lol Respect!

[@berniebne8243]

Great video just to make things clear. Each model of bike is different. Here's an extract from the Triumph Tiger 800 manual, my bike. Place the motorcycle on a level surface and hold it in an upright position with no weight on it. • Rotate the rear wheel by pushing the motorcycle to find the position where the drive chain is tightest, and measure the vertical movement of the drive chain midway between the sprockets. Amount of slack 20-30 mm. If I blindly copied the video my chain would be adjusted too tight. I use a chain oiler as well as cleaning the chain as described but not quite so often.

[@BretTkacs]

Everyone should check their manual for bike specifics. 👍

[@motafinga6652]

@@BretTkacs The 790 chain spec is actually checked 25 mm (or 1 chain link) behind the plastic guide on the bottom of swing arm, you should have 3-5 mm of gap between the swing arm and chain. It should not touch the swing arm or it is too loose. Also the rear suspension should be fully extended and bike in neutral, jacking the bike up where you are is compressing the suspension. The sticker on the swing illustrates this but is a bit confusing. I like the use of free diesel as a cleaner!

[@thehedgeknightnc3681]

Great delivery Sir. Glad I found your channel. Safe riding to you.

[@BretTkacs]

I'm glad you found my channel too

[@davidspin5353]

Love the diesel tip and the aluminum angle idea, I'll use that on mo Ducati

[@aditya918]

Short simple and just perfectly worded, thanks for the video.. really helpful and looking forward to more similar ones..

[@Crazy-Chicken-Media]

The chain is one of the reasons I got a Tiger 1200, if all goes well I won't have to mess with the shaft for 100,000 miles. My Z650 on the other hand... Every week I'm cleaning and adjusting it. Now if the dealership can figure out my Handlebar shake on the 1200 I'll be back on the road. well, off road soon

[@raycollington4310]

Agree, until a bearing or seal fails, then it's good night Vienna!

[@bobvincent5921]

Thanks. That is a good idea and where a little amount creep into and between the O rings ,it would be wise in my case to provide a backstop for the bike!

[@sty5171]

Great home made tool, I did one similar but with a small rope to pull it off when I want to put back the rear wheel on the ground. (I am not strong enough to lift the bike from the ground like Bret, I need to be standing and grabbing the passenger hand bar to lift the rear wheel and the tool get in position by gravity...)

[@oosung]

that was the quickest exchange from helmet to flat cap... 0:04 .... impressive.

[@vironpayne3405]

Using diesel scavanged from the pump is brilliant!

[@Broadus45]

Great video! I am living in Vietnam and do a lot of ADV/Trail riding here and your videos have been helpful for building my toolkit, riding, and enjoyment. Although I used a smaller bike adventure is still an adventure!

[@GroznyjGradHunter]

Doesn't matter what bike you use 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@stevezphone]

Love that DIY stand bar.

[@romanlee8287]

He set up cameras several times even for riding away. You’re too awesome BT.

[@tims728]

Thinking about the improvised side stand, I was thinking to cut the wing nut bolts down so not so much thread, then thought of a piece of angle the appropriate length might be able to be fixed to the side stand on the bike. Bit like a wrap around sleeve. Although not all side stands might be straight could either bend to mirror shape of affix to front fork or other straight section on the bike. Regardless it got me thinking how and where I could put a side stand. Used to just find a stick in the bush, but I guess it's the innovation that is one of the rewards that come from being on the trail. Cheers Brett from down under 🇦🇺

[@Tobeon2]

Chain Adjustment!! Awesome!!

[@runemagic7]

This was something I have been wondering about for a while: what to bring for chain maintenance? Tiny spray bottle with kerosene? What size can of lube? Where to put that stuff? Your luggage rack system is nifty and I definitely learned something there. Side stand was genius. The only question I had was around the slack adjustment method. My MoM says to adjust while on side stand with weight on back tire. Curious about the difference there. Honda vs KTM? That simple? I am still new to all this so have lots to learn!

[@BretTkacs]

Yes but I am NOT using a centerstand, the weight of the bike is still supported at the swingarm

[@runemagic7]

@@BretTkacs aha! Touche, sir!! Guess if I was truly paying attention I would have noticed that when you put the weight on the nut you mentioned. See? Still lots to learn!

[@jimsnow9183]

A strip of cardboard out of the garbage bin works well for not making a mess on the pavement. I love the diesel idea, I'll give it a go. AND, like others, I prefer the low key over the drill sergeant any day. Heartspace, Brother.

[@nickx8411]

Good tip on the diesel and the "pocket-sized side stand" idea. Thanks! :-) Ride well!

[@cider999]

So many great, useful tips! Thank You Bret.

[@rodneygalbraith4793]

Best vid I've seen on this topic. Thank you.

[@wonniethepoop7856]

This is amazing! Especially ideas about sidestand and free diesel for cleaning it's way better than carrying a bottle of kerosene with you.

[@figuring_stuff_out]

Best video on youtube. Mad props to you!

[@JBMotorrad]

Exactly why I’ll never own another distance touring bike with chain drive. What a PITA. 🤔🏍

[@BretTkacs]

Can't argue with that

[@jpwerth8610]

Sure, but you cannot service and fix a drive shaft on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere....

[@JBMotorrad]

@@jpwerth8610 Fair point.

[@jpwerth8610]

@@JBMotorrad but you could add a zerk fitting/grease nipple on the drive shaft and re-grease it every now and then and maybe a 'drain plug' for if water got in somehow. Don't know why the manufacturers do not have that standard and include it as part of its services.

[@JBMotorrad]

@@jpwerth8610 I ride 2018 Triumph Tiger 1200 XRx. The final drive oil is changed once after break-in, then never changed again - per Triumph's spec. I have changed mine 4 times in 23,000 miles so far, just to be safe. I think BMW 1200 GS has more maint required on final drive. All good. I just don't see me doing this every day there is a 500 mile ride. To each his own. Some don't mind the time it takes and enjoy tinkering. I'd much rather be riding, or eating a steak and potato at day's end. ;)

[@theEHWAZ]

Another super helpful video Bret. Both tricks for cleaning and adjusting the tension on the 790 - gracias!

[@tilldeathdowe]

Excellent video, thank you! I'm chuffed I have the same bike as you, you're helping me so much!

[@wipperwil]

Thanks for posting Bret. Very handy tips here.

[@98durangopack]

Bret, I know you have been doing this for a long time. I noticed your rear tire was getting a little worn. I am really enjoying this Motoz Tractionator Adventure. Running the TKC80 front still. This rear has been exceptional except a fresh rain oily road. Off road I am just as happy as the TKC80. More bite in mud. Deeper tread. I am not easy on this poor bike but do take care of it maintenance wise. This tire is a solid 5k mile tire. The front TKC80 is roughly 6+ depending on cupping. Lots of rooster tails in gravel etc and no chunking.

[@BretTkacs]

Worn!? That tire is toast! Waiting for my Mitas e07 140/80-18 to arrive

[@grumpy_cat1337]

Wow, this is really cool idea on chain maintenance! You're not dragging around chain lube and chain cleaner in your luggage, and diesel fuel keeps those rubber seals moisty and gives some anti-corrosion coating. I'm currently trying a no-maintenance on the chain, except adjustment if needed. It doesn't pick up much dirt since it's not covered with any lube or diesel, and it turned rides into pure hustle-free joy, we'll see for how long it lasts. If it doesn't last at least 20000km, I'll stick to your approach, I ran through 3 chains already and I consider your approach to have the best chain longevity and maintenance hustle ratio))

[@alexandrebravo4472]

there have been a ton of videos made on this topic and with modern Orings and Xrings, there seems to be virtually no benefit whatsoever to cleaning or lubing them. they are lubed INTERNALLY and if cleaning the outside affects those rings, then your chain will be toast soon anyway because its not sealed anymore. any residue left on the chain will just create grime and if there's no residue then why are we lubricating? its kind of like cleaning your toothbrush with mouthwash before using it. probably doesn't hurt but also probably a waste of time lol.

[@davidbesant]

On bikes with drum brakes on the rear, I used to use the brake torque arm as a stand.

[@BretTkacs]

I've never seen that before. Interesting idea 😉👍

[@anto687]

Love that helmet/hat transition! :D

[@niwradsiphone]

Yes! I re-watched that shot like 10x just to see how smooth he is with that!

[@hoihoihoi1951]

Buy some white chain wax spray and you are good to go. If it is really dirty just go to a power washer and use clean water to spray the big dirt off. When I sold my previous motorcycle my chain was at 29.000 km without any signs of wear, was only adjusted once and I never degreased and cleaned it. It also endured 5 months of rain almost everyday after which I put on a new layer of chain wax spray. Hope you read this before it gets deleted and saves you some time, effort and money.

[@raulaugustobuitragoruiz2609]

Bret very good video. Clear, precise, didactic and very useful. Special greetings from Bogota D.C.- COLOMBIA

[@OurDee]

Thanks for the "Velcro E-brake" trick.

[@singhangad]

If u do have a chained bike get an auto oiler like a Scott oiler etc..rarely have to clean the the chain and I never had to tighten a chain in 60k km.

[@FlorianWerner]

Great video! Your tips and ingenuity are amazing :) Beyond the actual content which is what I was really after, I really enjoy your video production: I love it how you use simple means to create very nicely produced videos. I especially like how you vary the shooting angles, but not just to make it interesting, they also help to get a better understanding of what you are explaining. Really well done Brett! The last scene where you drive off is also cool... I hope you came back to get the camera before a truck crushed it 😁

[@CasalGSA]

Absolutely great tip! 👏🏻 Thanks Bret.

[@bindirider]

Brilliant tips. wish I didn't buy a center stand now.

[@goldenchild4835]

Thanks Bret. Great video, as usual!

[@JohnDoe-xr5is]

1:45....if possible, put the strap further out towards the end of the lever. You'll get more torque that way. But not all levers will allow you to do it.

[@skippynj1979]

And that's why the shaft drive is my only touring choice.. I have the s1000xr... going back to a gsa or RT

[@pitmerianrodiana8221]

In emergency when i was pound my chain is too Stretch while riding far from town , I used to get falm oil from local store or restauran and just clean my chain than put some

[@nathanaross5]

I really enjoy your vids, thanks for the tips brother!

[@zeez9053]

Loved the video .Where I’m from in North East England some petrol station female cashiers get snotty if they see you filling spare can with Diesel.Will try other fuel station

[@RuledByMars]

Oh hell yeah!! Great stuff!! Thanks and cheers from Daytona Beach Florida!

[@Meerkoenig]

Some good advice. One question: You do show cleaning of the chain from the outside of the chain. I do believe the dust out there cannot move inside to damage the chain due to centrifugal force. Wouldn‘t it be more important to wash the inside of the chain to remove dust and dirt before it causes wear to the sprockets and makes its way towards the chain‘s o-rings?

[@marshallfischer3667]

Boy, am I happy to have a drive shaft

[@eriknash8783]

I wish I could use a stand like that. My Multistrada pivot point on side stand is so far forward, that when I push the rear wheel up, the bike becomes very unstable. Not mention, Ducatis have a rest for weak stand mounts which are part of the frame. I hate packing more weight on for a center stand so I’ll just do the parking lot shuffle…

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

Hmm I think I better check my chain , it's been 1000 miles since it had service . I need to make a similar side stand so I can get the back tire up . Excellent video as always !

[@BretTkacs]

It will look fine at 1000... It's about caring for it for the long term 👍

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

@@BretTkacs I have a 2019 DR650 and am waiting for my preordered Tenere 700 . On the axle nuts in the back there's these nautilus looking guide plates with notches . They're used to help align your tire and tighten up your chain . My thing is what about the brake calipers and the distance you're pulling away the rear brake disk from it ? I will look again but I don't think the owners manual mentioned that . Alright then take care and looking forward to your next video !

[@gunnsteinnjonsson9166]

Good and useful information, thanks 👍 I liked your toolbox and the aluminium side stand 😊 The centre stand on my bike sometimes hitts the ground when riding off road, but l never thought of taking it off until it broke off.

[@Francois_Dupont]

i personally use motor oil for car. it has the best slippery anti-wear property and it clean the chain as it drips and get flung. i ride a 125cc motorcycle and i worn 3 O-ring chain before switching to a DID "heavy-duty" standard chain without O-rings. i tried everything in the past from wax spray to grease, i found the best to be motor oil. you can just bring a little 100ml bottle and you just drip the oil onto the INSIDE of the chain.

[@PureAwesome92]

But so much will fling off... I would not want to have to clean your poor bike haha

[@Francois_Dupont]

@@PureAwesome92 its a feature!

[@nanomckomsncom]

Good old chain maintenance :). I like center stands for ease of maintenance on the go ( or even in the shop ). Don't have one yet for my AT but it should get here soon.

[@98durangopack]

Man, I just love watching your videos! If you ever come to the east coast I hope I can take one of your classes or ride with you! I got 11k miles in since last June and 4213 or so off road on my 1090R

[@RavenTwoSix.]

Hey Bret. Great video, but, chain tension should be done with the weight of the bike on the rear wheel.

[@GertArijs]

Scott hey that’s my question as well!

[@EugeneYunak]

Once you know how tight your chain needs to be with an unweighted wheel, you can do it that way. It's a matter of learning your bike - the way Bret checks tension in this video is not the way ktm manual specifies it, even if the wheel was on the ground. just tension it to spec, then lift up the wheel and make a mental note (or write down) some measurement for that state.

[@BretTkacs]

KTM manual says to put the bike on a race stand. A center stand would fully unweight the suspension but the support stand uses the swingarm so I carries similar load as a race stand

[@adamtajs303]

I am using diesel clean too, but after you clean do we need to put some chain lubricant?