Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 vs CFMOTO 450 MT | No Holds-Barred Real World Review

[@robkeogh4593]

You know theres one big thing here, it doesnt matter which one you pick. The fun you blokes had on sub 10k bikes has to be the most important point from all this

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

that's the point. I think people get tied up too much in the bike. I cannot believe these are under $10K! WTF :)

[@bibekjung7404]

KAVER SUPRME. P0WER. ❤👍👍.

[@ryanroux5429]

Agreed, value for money there certainly tick the box.. 👍

[@ryanroux5429]

Yeah Well done guys 👍 Been looking forward to this one 😎 Personally as big guy, I still think these bikes have a place for the more sedate adventurer, someone who perhaps only gets out 3 or 4 times a year to do the odd weekend or week trip… not costly to own and certainly capable of doing the job.. 👍 Country tar and gravel travel will be a pleasure at real world travel pace, they would both actually do well travelling through Africa or other less developed regions of the world where high speed travel is not an option. Personally I think the Enfield is a real cracker.. looking at the slow speed hard hits… while it appears to bottom out on the back end the bike looks to be more composer on the exit.. the CF looks to buck quite hard which may catch one out.. I would certainly consider both as daily commute to reduce my mileage for commute on my 890adv r and I think they would be perfect to get my Mrs’s into travel riding… Again I ask the manufacturers to bring them to South Africa

[@cougar-ii627]

Has the CF Moto been fitted with the rally seat or still the standard one?

[@davidforeman2734]

I am watching this from BC Canada and loving it. There is a big switch to small bikes here in BC. I ride a DR 650 and I am 75 years old and we have four of us that all ride DR650 and the oldest rider is 79 years. We hooked up with young chaps on KTM and after Woods we ended up in the pub for a feed and some drinks. They said we have just been schooled by four old boys on DR 650. We had a good old giggle.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Sounds like you are having a great time.

[@billyarsenault1970]

Us riders in their mid 50’s really appreciates hearing inspiring stuff like this. 👍🏼

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@billyarsenault1970 great to hear. We love our bikes.

[@The_all_movies_.]

😂 0:55

[@moose250R]

First off, this was a great review/comparison of these bikes. 1. Both bikes having the same tire. So often I see bikes being tested with trash stock tires. 2. Real world conditions!!! You guys rode on actual trails and on highways like the consumer will. 3. You guys did a back to back test on a loop where each of you gave her a go and documented the results. There is no better way to truly test. Riders providing information and entertainment to riders!! Top notch! 🍻! Nuggets and the mud pit had me laughing at you all !!! Keep up the good work!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@jonbriddon1566]

I loved the new format as it was fun and was a good portrayal of a days adventure riding that you would do with your mates. Less technical and spec information and more real world experiences. I’m based in Sydney so I can see you did Jerry’s, Murray’s Run Road and The Watagans so a typical Sydney day out. I’ve got the new 450 Himalayan and it is the best adventure bike I’ve ever owned. Good at everything and an amazing all rounder. Very comfortable and fun to ride as well.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Great to hear.

[@Scalihoo]

Over 10 years this motorbiking fan from Florida's been watching..thanks for the content.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks so much. I really appreciate your long term commitment to what we do.

[@bishopkinlyside8477]

Hi guys, that looks like too much fun I think the CF Moto absolutely sounds fantastic but I still like the Himalayan Royal Enfield if I have to go and buy one that’s what I’d buy. I watched a lot of guys and girls riding these across India and no one seem to have too much issues with them. Anyway keep up the good work. I really enjoyed this video. I wish I was there but unfortunately I lost my right leg above the knee and 2018 in a major truck accident, but that’s okay. I can still dream the dream for you guys I also still ride a three wheeler Canam, Ryker, and have lots of fun with it , Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you liked the video. Great to hear you are still riding.

[@UNBIASEDCOMMENT]

nice bed time story for children.

[@deltabluesdavidraye]

Smartass ​@@UNBIASEDCOMMENT

[@KirkAnderson-l3i]

Enjoyed the review. Recently rode the Gun Barrel, GCR. A round trip of 4600 km’s back to Perth. 2 bikes, one was a Himi 450 stock except Tyres and larger screen. The Himi took all in its stride, the Corrugation was relentless on Gun Barrel. Anyone that has driven or ridden Gun barrel understands the conditions. Yes, the stock suspension showed its limits ( most bikes would with OME ) the short side stand was an issue and having a narrow foot made matters worse at times. For the money and a few tweaks the Himi will make a good all round tourer for AUSTRALIA. Yes weight can be an issue at times, however on the Nullarbor with the cross winds the weight will help with not being blown around. RE are onto a winner here, of coarse the Nay Sayers will scoff at these bikes, ( badge snobs ).

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for sharing your experience

[@deltabluesdavidraye]

The short side stand allows you to use it on mountain slopes

[@noshify]

Thanks for a great day out Gents. Always a blast riding with you all. An honest day of adventure that most owners of these bikes might put them through.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Great to get the band back together!

[@disisashish]

I really admire the Himalayan rider. He's truly an adventure enthusiast, always opting for the more challenging routes during his rides.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's Nugget.

[@Phil58Liew]

I rode the Himi450 and 411 less than 3 weeks ago in Ladakh and Himachal Pradesh going through gravel, sand and rocks. I was very surprised by its abilities. This review also shows the capabiities of both these bikes in mud and narrow trails. Great way to test these bies and I agree its a better way of reviewing them.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

It's amazing what you can do with those bikes!

[@Papanchasonline]

Now this is a FANTASTIC view into both these bikes. This was the first video Ive watched on the channel and its ticked every single box. I feel the 'Real world view' is what most of KZbin is lacking nowadays... great to see these guys take em out.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you

[@peternaur]

What a ride! It was like being there yourself. Wonderful! Nugget's a star, but I have to Nosh did well handling the big bike - a cool rider! Thanks Dave!!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Both Nugget and Nosh did really well. That narrow piece of mud that Nosh took on was far more difficult that it looked and the consequences of falling from a big height was real bad.

[@SKgeostrat]

Well done Dave and Clubby, it makes sense this way. It shows the bikes with "normal" riders, that are not professional! Riemann is great, but how many riders can honestly say that they can handle a bike like he does? Almost nobody, whereas most riders can see themselves like your test team. It frankly makes it more approachable!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks

[@Neb_38]

I dunno, I reckon Nugget could give AR a run for his money.

[@motozz8258]

What are you talking about Nugget wouldst boor Adam for speed , as for reliable smashing out the kays i dont think either of these two would last in general but at Nuggets speed across the country there is no way they would last . .

[@donnishimoto9308]

i would have liked to see the CF Moto do the same track as the Himay. The Himay can plow through deep water and keep going, it has the high air intake under the gas tank. Not sure the CF Moto could do the same. Plus the Himay went down hard on its side, and again the CF Moto took the safe route so saved its plastics.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You have a good point.

[@FabrizioSpinelli]

Let's turn the discussion around: if the Himalayan had no longer turned on after ending up in the water, would you have said that it is a bad motorbike, bearing in mind that the CF, on the contrary, did not end up in the water? However, there are several videos on KZbin where the CF "drowned" in a raging river, they pulled it out and it drove off again. Net of "partisanship", I would say that they are two bikes that are equivalent and the difference is only personal taste.

[@uditmog717]

Buy a himi and cf and test that yourself ​@@FabrizioSpinelli

[@sulinlawbreaker7]

That's very true👍 i thinks the same when comparison. They ride different routes.

[@Kevin-mw9yl]

Both bikes make sense, i everyday practicability. At the end of the day, it always comes back, to which one, puts a smile on your face. Here in the land of Oz, where the budget is tight, you really can't go wrong.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's the point.

[@gonegliding2966]

Real world testing like this is the way to go. Spec sheets only tell part of the story. Great effort gents!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's exactly what we are trying to do.

[@janusdelprado6256]

I love how excited these men get around their bikes. Really goes to show that men are simple creatures and not hard to please. Boys will be boys. Ride safe brothers. Much love from the Philippines.🏍️

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you. We love our bikes.

[@PetterErikssonn]

Woah, talk about a trial by fire! Aah, so good to see Nugget again! That sun-bleached high vis jacket is legendary and just so Nugget. I liked the format, it was a nice change of pace but I also really appreciate the structured and all-encompassing reviews you do Dave that leave no questions unanswered, so I think a healthy mix of both will be the best.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

We have the bikes long term, that is coming.

[@PetterErikssonn]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Can't wait! 👍

[@davidjehan1579]

Like many,I have been waiting for this exact testing.. However I am none the wiser,or any closer to which one to buy.They both did well,and they both look like a shit ton of fun and both under 10k.. I reckon for me it won’t matter which one I get, and I think I will just do a random lottery type of decider,you know,screwed up paper in a hat.. Thanks to all who gave me so much fun and entertainment watching ..Luv’ ya’ work boys..

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'm glad you found it entertaining. They are both amazing bikes.

[@kevinnielsen1356]

When I look at the Himi I see metal. When I look at the CFMOTO I see plastic. I'm an old schooler retro grouch. Steel is Real

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

ha ha

[@thanosa2206]

Good luck with the old vibrations too Cf has none even at top speed

[@titaniumquarrion9838]

If people want to get CF because it has less vibration than a single over the fact the RE is superior is every other regard then go for it. The RE vibration is negligible compared to other, far more expensive “plastic” singles too. In short i’ll enjoy the overall better performing bike on and off-road - the RE Himalayan 450.

[@kevinnielsen1356]

@@thanosa2206 I prefer a bit of vibes compared to Chinese spyware

[@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310]

So whats metal on the Enfield that’s plastic on the 450mt?

[@DangerCell]

This was brilliant! Me and my 7 year old are HUGE fans of Nugget! But of course, Nugget without Nosh is like steak without potatoes. So yes please, MORE NUGGET and NOSH. You guys are the Hmalayan mountain dream team! Keep the team together! This was terrific! Thank you Dave :)

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks! We appreciate the support!

[@williamjudd857]

Good to see a review that is not some bloke rattling off all the specifics and facts about the bikes because all of that isn’t as important when you’re in the mud, sand and shit. Best review I have seen on these bikes yet!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

We tried to focus on the real world experience!

[@williamjudd857]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV and made it entertaining as well

[@KTMrider696]

Nuggets back! 😂 Hell yeah!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Great fun to have him back.

[@nfi2799]

For me when I watch a review, I firstly relate to the rider/reviewer and base my opinion on how my riding style relates to theirs. Everyone WANTS a winner in a comparison but actually NEEDS opinions from a couple different riders with different 'bends'. One thing I know for sure though is that Nosh can certainly ride!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@nfi2799 He certainly can!

[@pedalsforapurpose]

Love it!! Thanks chaps, I'm really happy with my Himalayan 450, and its been a great friend to introduce me to the TET in Sweden.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Excellent. A great bike.

[@Tripleb6036]

Just watched this on a cold Sunday morning in the UK. Great stuff, I loved this format. Like going out with your mates as a teenager and getting upto trouble.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for the kind words. It was fun to make.

[@Tripleb6036]

@ looked it. I’d definitely watch more of this style of ride. Makes me want to get back to the Philippines and my bikes. Just wish we had your riding there.

[@bradmacleanfishing]

Nuggets gonna score a sunsilk deal if he keeps putting that hair do on screen!! Great vid.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Agree :)

[@HendriL-f7l]

Xx 988ioi9 😅​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

[@jarofmarmalade]

Such a good video. I’ve got the CF Moto on order but honestly could have easily bought the himi, it was looks and wanted to try the twin that won it for me

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Soo close aren't they

[@radadventure2606]

Sorry, I forgot! Loved seeing Nugget again. Loved him dropping the Himi even more!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah I did like that bit. Particularly after he whopped me on the time trial.

[@knoxm304]

Nugget is a wild Man!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

He's not an academic that's for sure.

[@samhill3496]

When I was at EC's Crossroads concerts my stage credentials said "No Talent". Good vid Dave and Andrew. Like the new hired guns doing the reviews. That one is pretty crazy and a very good rider. Giant among men, "Marc Travels" is up in Ladakh on his Zero electric bike on vid sequence now. Wild and electric bike that doesn't chock down due to lack of oxygen, hell without electricity thou. Fire up the generator. Interesting watching that bike go with street tires on it. Lot of new pavement since you fellows were up there. Unreal. Beautiful. There were some bikers he met who had bought RE 410 Himalayans used for a $1000 USD and riding them, sell when leave. Good condition workhorses. Not a bad deal. Good to get a take from a fellow out of our circle. One who knows worldwide uses of bikes and understands their markets better than we ever will. We will never consider a 125 a top line machine like many others do. And they prove it in their daily use. Change in the pocket is a hugh factor for that market. Glad the choices are there. Sure there are more coming. Well Dave as they tell us pensioners, the check is in the mail. All good from east Kentucky USA. Much enjoyed vid.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks Sam.

[@thomasahling7014]

Thanks guys, absolutely my favourite bike video ever! As a bigger bloke, I'm seriously interested in buying a 450MT, more so than the Himi, so just had to look, but loved the extra dynamic of the 4 of you just going out and having my idea of fun. So relatable for me, as a similar "mature" Aussie rider, and I actually loved that you mostly included all the colourful language, just so real.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it!

[@SimplyCyclingtoursandrides]

I haven’t enjoyed a review this much for a long time. I actually laughed out loud twice it was so good and funny. More like a day out with mates. I love the new format. 😊

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TommyNitro]

I'm very impressed with the performance of these bikes. I know some people (i.e. other youtubers making moto content ) might be scared about really using them. But that is the thing: they look good, but their function fails miserably or they pass. And these bikes really did well. Good marks for the manufacturers. Thanks for your all's hard work. Looked like a load of fun!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Great fun, but proved the point. These bikes are great value.

[@peternaur]

I really loved this review. It's much more interesting to see what the bikes can do in the hands of albeit skilled but real world riders. The usual structure of reviews - not MAD tvs particularly - quickly bore me, especially if it is not about a bike that I am absolutely lusting for. These two bikes interest me, but not enough to watch a 45 min video based off of the spec sheet. Thanks again!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@GCTO239]

The Himi handled the jump much better.

[@simonjones2645]

Nugget is the better rider I think 😊

[@vethaydin77]

@@simonjones2645 and nugget is probably lighter than nosh

[@michaelschlup-c5o]

REAR shock needs more rebound dampening...

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Nuggets ridden motocross just about all his life.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's why I showed the slo mo comparison

[@JagLite]

Fun comparison ride! I like the format. Although I view both bikes as travel bikes, go anywhere but not fast off road so comparing lap times is okay against each other but would not be at all right to compare with a dual sport lap time of the same trail. The way I see it now is that there are three rough groups of bikes in the adv category, the first being the big, heavy travel bikes that can go anywhere but are primarily high speed road travel bikes. The second group being the mid weight travel bikes like the Himi and CF 450 MT, and the third group being the dual sport to plated dirt bikes that are light weight and much better off road than any of the others by a large degree, but also much less comfortable on high speed pavement. I used to be in the plated dirt bike group but as I got older I moved into the middle weight travel bike like these two. Most of my riding is alone and at 70 I do not take risks riding faster off road anymore because I get injured much easier and it takes so long to heal.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I think you are right. They are very different bikes but it was fun to compare them in that format.

[@PauloGoncalvesGuimaraes]

Oh Boy. What a bunch of nice and completely crazy dudes. You are old enough to be more wise but I wish I could be like you guys in a few years. Best comparison ever. And so nice to watch. Thanks

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for watching

[@the_explorerist]

I loved the format, and that should put the wind up the naysayers! Those that think your channel has a bias, because you have the bikes given to you, and say you can't give an honest opinion. And to the people that think the Chinese and Indian bikes are crap. Yeah, I can hear it now. Crap resale value and we don't know how reliable the engines are, blah blah blah. I think if you have that much fun with that much capability, you're on a winner.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks, we try to give the bikes a proper workout!

[@TheEnfieldGuy]

Really put both bikes through their paces guys....great video and great result. Not alot between the 2 at all. I'm 100% Himi biased but the CFMOTO looks awesome. Loved the format of this vid also....keep em coming!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@cliff1551]

Hey Dave, guys, Dave what rally tower you got on the husky mate.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Adventure Men Cave looks good eh!

[@natewright1422]

More Nugget. And more group rides. The woody woodwood tours were the best yet.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Nugget and I are riding with Woody and Ellyse in January in the Victorian High Country. Really looking forward to that.

[@natewright1422]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes! I can't wait to see that!

[@1young-geezer]

Just great! What a fun watch. And what a super quick comparison video on these two super value bikes as it turns out. LOVE the tracks you guys charged through and with most impressive outcomes. Good video coverage by the way, and what a nice spread of personalities the 4 of you have. Very enjoyable, and meaningful, coverage. Thanks a load.........

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@CaptLawrence]

Guys I already love how you do your reviews but, this is another level of excitement for me. This is how I test motorcycles this is exactly how I come up with my opinions. I fucking loved this video especially because we got Nugget back. Rock on the only thing I will say is I wouldve taken my Africa twin in there with you and I wouldn't have had to camp I trust that bike with my life.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'd like to see an AT in there with my slomo camera

[@CaptLawrence]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Invite me out boss I aint scared lol

[@stevesanelli90]

Great honest reviews of each sub 10K bikes from semi retired gents. Well done & grest fun.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks mate. We do our best but I don't know if Nugget, Nosh and Clubby would see themselves as semi retired gents. :)

[@UKpete40]

Great video as usual, when one of you said they would get the 800 because it's only 10kg more I thought WOW didn't realise that just looked it's 40Kg heavier and 4 thousand UK pounds more 😮😮😮

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

My Husky that I was riding was 141 Kg fuel full. The cfmoto and Himi are 190 kg!

[@motozz8258]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yeah but lets speak about the elephant in the room , Your Husky is a rip off with China build like reliability. Outside of your subliminal advertising of o how much does it weigh ! Was the Nuggster off on the 10kg diff for the 800

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@motozz8258 Nothing has failed on my 501, stop talking nonsense. Have you ridden one? Do you own one? As for Nugget's estimation for the new one, he may not be too far off.

[@Pvt_PandaPear]

Great video! But you said you fitted the Pirelli Scorpion Rally tires. But these are not available for the CFMoto’s 140/70/18 wheels? Do you have a different size tires? If so which size and does that change how the bike rides? Appreciate the answer! Keep up the great reviews

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You're think STRs, these are Race...more aggressive

[@AfricaTwin-Stuff]

Wendy and I love this format. And she was pleased to meet such note-worthy celebrities at Jerry’s last Saturday.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Hi Wendy. Unfortunately you didn't make the edit. I just couldn't make it fit. See you up there again soon and we'll try again.

[@AfricaTwin-Stuff]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV ha! Wendy didn’t expect to star in your show. But she says thanks anyway.

[@ricardosalcedo2824]

It's super fun to watch. It always feels like I'm there with you guys. I want to come and ride around Oz someday. Hi from Atlantic Canada.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks mate.

[@falckofly]

Love the format you chose for this comparison. I like the way you guys change up the formats. A good thorough review, an informal shoot-out, trips etc makes your channel one of my absolutely favs since it ticks all the boxes. Oh, by the way, love the banter.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I try to mix it up.

[@MrAusadventure]

What a great real world test for both of these machines! I haven't ridden the bikes but I had 2 students turn up for a course (I'm a motorbike instructor) the other day on each of these so I got to sit on their bikes. Just that short sit, and watching the guys ride around a tight course of cones in the car park and on the road, made me want the CFMoto more than the Himalayan. I'm wondering, would it be worth it for me to swap my ever reliable DRZ for a CF just as it has more road capabilities? I do have a V-Strom for the road, but maybe the CF is of a bike a bike that will do both disciplines in one bike? Hmm. Love the format of the video by the way. Real world stuff!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Hold that thought the KTM390 and Beemer 450 are coming. I suspect about 2 K more but certainly worth a look. As for right now, the Himi does it for me. Have a look at the outback ride as to why.

[@BryanRalph-g6r]

Great band😂, can't wait for your next gig. Awesome production really enjoyed it. 10/10

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Cheers for the support!

[@heilpepe7298]

This is the best way to review similar capacity + priced bikes...... Give it to normal riders (not Pros) you get the review to which normal people can relate to........... Thanks for the review

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Well said

[@StormKingExpedition]

Absolutely Loved this video. Truly enjoyed the format as I felt like I was on the trip with you all from start to finish. Definitely liked the group of four approach with 2 everyday riders and maybe would have liked the two “Moto Journs” to share their opinions to wrap it up. GREAT VIDEO! Cheers from New York.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it! I agree, the four of us together just made the video more entertaining and engaging.

[@JasperSmith.]

How do these compare to a DR650? Seems like a difficult choice

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

same same

[@Dexadventure01]

GREAT FUN GUYS !! Comes down to asthetics preference then ?! Either way purchasers won't be disappointed. Great job guys! 😂 Albeit tough going

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

They're both great, you can't go wrong really.

[@robpinter5431]

Brilliant, good example of what a $10K bike can do out of the box.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

They both have their strengths for sure.

[@osimnod]

A brilliant episode! All you fellows are accomplished riders but not professional racers so we mere mortals can relate to what you're able to do with these rigs. Appreciate the banter and joking among mates.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Appreciate it.

[@cliff1551]

Dave I need your thoughts on something ye, I run a 140x80x18 70R tkc 80 on the rear of the husky ye, now would you run a 150x70x18 on the rear if you new the tire was good for miles and absolutely bullet proof ye, the company don't make a 140 width tire what do you think mate please advise.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Tyre wideth measurement between brands are inherently inaccurate and widely varying. You need to check them out yourself Cliff.

[@salvadorangel148]

I’ve been watching your channel for a couple of months now, and it totally helped me to decide which one to get, CF450 MT, great reviews! Greetings from Mexico.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad we could help!

[@motopimpp]

An excellent watch, grinning all the way through. Like the rawness and real world feel of this format. Well done fellas.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for the kind words. We’re having fun with both of the bikes.

[@brianrundle9219]

I absolutely love the style and content of this my wife even sat down for once to watch. Thank You.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@イエンスヨハンセン]

Love this review, but I also loved the more structured one you did a few weeks ago. I picked up my MT450 shortly after your earlier review and so far I’m in love with it like I haven’t been with any other bike. 1250 km in just over 2 weeks says it all❤

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I will be doing a similar review on the Himi shortly.

[@stefanwest312]

Good format, good useful reviews. I also really liked the fact you pushed the bikes beyond their design purpose too as so many of us have speared off down a track we didn't know and went "uh oh..." too far in then had to recover. Its not fair of me but I would love to have seen a comparison time for the Little Red Rooster and the Husky just out of curiosity; but lets face it, that's not the point.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I was planning to do that, but it just got too complicated, but still possible. It's going to get tricky when we get our hands on the KTM390 early next year.

[@tomasrestrepoa.1247]

this format is great! the comments were fair and the aproach is grat, tar, dirt and enduro, cover it all. Expect to see other models going through the same drill❤

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@teddav976]

How would you compare (cost aside) a Rally Raid CB500X. Still loving my 2019.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The CBs are a great USV. These two are a step above that.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

A great SUV but these bikes are a step above.

[@teddav976]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks - my two cents worth. Checked out the CF Moto, but stuck with the Honda. As Nugget stated, you would go for the 800cc version. Looking for my next bike, the Ducatista in me is saying Desert X, but the sane part of my brain is telling me Transalp.

[@MickH60]

@@teddav976 I love the desert x too but bloody maintenance... $$$

[@John450-Himilayan]

How long did it take you to wash the bikes down it's always fun getting dirty but no so much cleaning up later

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

An hour and a bit.

[@hemantshori4272]

Great review, just like many others. What makes is special is Nugget is back. Welcome back Nuggs...we missed you.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

He's been a great part of the team. Great to see him back.

[@kennethsutton282]

Watching from UK. That looked a lot of fun..I thought it was a good honest test of both bikes and they both came out of it really well. When you consider how little they both cost in relation to other machines that's a big bonus. I ride a Benelli TRKx and at just over £6,000 new I can't fault it. I have other bikes, but the TRK gets ridden a lot. I bought it as an experiment and have been totally happy with it. I've ridden Ireland, Spain, Frànce, Morocco, Gibraltar, UK, all loaded with camping gear and had no problems. What's not to like or fault? I do like the CF, though I'd go for the 800cc.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks, Yes I think it was a good little test.

[@roybailey4529]

Great content as always fellas, a lot of people been looking forward to this video... How manageable is the himmy 452 vs the CRF 300 in the tricker sections? I know it is heavier, but it does have a lower seat that I assume helps? Is the CRF "night and day" easier to manage, or is it quite close? Let me explain why I ask... I am close to pulling the trigger on either a Himmy 452 or a crf 300 rally. I am in the UK, and planning pretty long road miles into Europe to then pick up mainly big bike friendly off road routes like the Adventure Country Tracks in Portugal / Pyrenees. Each trip likely 1200 miles of road, and 800 miles of dirt. I am not racing, just travelling and enjoying it - i will be solo and I am of "average" off road ability (not a dirt god). The dirt in the main will be relatively easy I understand, but as solo I am a little worried about the inevitable odd tricky section I encounter in a remote area - i need something I can be confident on which is manageable to reduce the risk of me getting stranded. To put it in context, even the worst I would encounter would not be as bad as what you went through on this trip, some of that looked truly horrific! I think the himmy would defo be the better road bike for the 1200 road miles and would be fine on 90% of the off road, but I am trying to gauge how much harder to manage it would be when I do encounter the occasional tricky section (water crossing, steeper climb with switch backs, muddy sections after bad rain). Any insight from you guys who have experience on both, regarding the manageability of the himmy 452 vs the crf 300 rally in trickier sections, would be really useful. Thanks in advance guys!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You really need to ride both. They are very different but both good.

[@furmanb]

Enjoyed the vid guys... liked the format but I enjoy your usual vids anyway. What tyres is Grubby running on the CRF300? Thanks

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Anarchy Wilds? I think

[@thepoorfreelancer2494]

Awesome video, both bikes are great. But man, i love the design of the CFMoto 450, it looks great. The aussie accent it makes this review 10 times better!!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks mate!

[@stephaneichenlaub]

I’m new to the channel, and I like that you’re getting the bikes dirty for a full day. I rode my 950 in such conditions ten to twenty years ago, sometimes playing, and sometimes travelling, and as I’m getting older (like the guys in the video) I’m thinking of downgrading due to the weight. So my question is: How do these compare to a 690/701 that’s outfitted for adventuring? With luggage?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Welcome aboard! You've got some catching up to do. I have a 701 and 690 both set up for adventure and they have donee big trips. eg London to Sydney. I recently completed a 3 year review on my 701 and 690. Start with those videos.

[@digitallyinsane1036]

Nugget is my spirit animal. Loved the way you have approached this bikes. Would love to see the long term videos about this bikes. My main concern is reliability, dealership support and availability of the parts.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

All four bikes are long termers, so you'll get to see them out and about on a number of videos.

[@AndrewTurner-d1y]

Great format. Great camaraderie. Im a 411 owner but i think you get more bang for your buck with the CF Moto ie folding levers adjust windscreen better dash and easier air filter access. Cant go wrong with either though.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks! It's good to hear from owners.

[@adityan3208]

Nah I'd argue that the himi is made of metal, and that is far more valuable, especially for an ADV. The Himalayan has the potential to be your reliable pal, in a way the CF MOTO can never be. The CF is a better bike tbh, but Himalayan to me is the one with the better and reliable build.

[@thehoelzels6316]

​@adityan3208 the CFMOTO 450MT motor is in 3 other models as well (Naked, Sport, & Cruiser). I feel that the ground up build of the 450MT is pretty legit.

[@adityan3208]

@@thehoelzels6316 yeah I'm not knocking on their reliability, I just mean that if you're into hard-core ADV things then it's better to have a bike built with metal. I am not seeing people throw around the CF as much as they do the himmy. And the himmy is taking the beatings up just fine

[@neilcook8774]

Hi guys, that looked like you had great fun. I rode the Himi before getting the cfmoto (in UK) and although i can't fault the Himi it just didn't excite me. I'm loving the cfmoto and i'm going to the ABR next year. That wet mud you were going through looked the sort of conditions we have here, nice to see the Pirelli tyres working well on the cfmoto. I want to change the tyres before the ABR.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Good idea

[@backontwowheels9469]

I think both bikes are capable of providing days of pure fun for their owners and in reality they are closely matched. Ultimately you will make your decision on aesthetics. I chose a Himalayan, primarily for green laning and possible runs around the TET, it gives me the look of a dual sport and a rawness similar to the old DT250 I rode as a 17 year old. The MT looks as it is designed to appeal to the adv rider who may want to tour and that is fine if that is the look you want. I also love Clubbys CRF, I had the 250 version when I returned to biking in 2020 and I would likely still have it if a scumbag had not stolen it. I love these sort of rides that you all do, the skill set is amazing, I am always in awe and kick myself for staying off bikes for so long

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Aesthetics are completely different but the capability of both bikes is very close.

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Like the off the cuff opinions, taken right on the trail, while the engines are still hot. Definitely, these two riders found their rides

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

It’s a good time to be a rider!

[@ashcunningham449]

where is that little offroad track area you did the time trial?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

MAAAAte! :)

[@billyandriam]

22:49 For everyone out there who are beginners and plan on buying the 450MT. I can't stress it enough, it is a HEAVY bike folks, you're gonna drop it!!! I am a owner myself and Nosh is 100% right on this.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Who cares if they drop it. Keep within your limits. Ride with mates. All good.

[@LloydGrace1]

Absolutely loved this. Properly had me laughing out loud at times. Well done guys 👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad it was entertaining

[@shaunwatson2116]

Thanks fellas , loved the vid. I am in the market for a touring under 10k and have decided it's between the hima and CF. your vid was very entertaining and not to mention a lot of info on the actual ride of both bikes. definitely heading over to your channel and subscribing .

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad it was helpful!

[@andreasl-punkt]

Thank you all for this funny and informative video. Being far far from your abilyties in riding motorcycles this video showed me many different ways to judge, which one to buy as soon as I can afford it: the Himalayan… best regards from Germany!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@alanbuller3371]

A group of friends out for the day, love it! Great comparison and a great format.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks

[@pinkiewerewolf]

That was a lot of fun fellas! It was great to see the crew back together again. Would I have tried that track on my T7? I'd have tried it but I'd be exhausted at the end, On my 501, yeah, finish the track and felt good for more at the end. Thats where the RE and CFM fall into being in my mind. Small enough for tough riding yet capable enough on the road. I'm talking to two different riders and we're trying to plan a ride to Alaska next Summer. They both have Himalayans, 411 & 450. They aren't batting an eye to take those bikes on the ride. Side note: After watching Nugget in the puddles I need to grab a high exhaust for my T7. 😉

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

T7 in there? I would have liked to film that! :)

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I’d only attempt it with a couple of mates! 😂

[@pskoul]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV what would have made the passing with T7 or a Tuareg more difficult than the himmy or the MT450? I own the himmy 450 and It is 10 to 15 kg lighter than the T7 or the Tuareg is that extra weight that would cause the bigger bikes to straggle or are other things also? note that I'm a newbie in dirt riding ! I had a discussion with a friend and these bikes is not much lighter than the T7 or the Tuareg (I haven't ridden either of them) and he things that we exaggerate when we say that the T7 or the Tuareg will strangle in the same terrain ... Keep it going with the great reviews and content !!!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@pskoul It's not the weight so much as the centre of gravity that makes a huge difference. The Tuareg would have been easier to get through than the T7 as it has a lower centre of gravity.

[@peterholthoffman]

This is a great format!!! The only thing more that I wanted was the actual height, inseam, and weight of each rider. It's much more engaging to watch people struggle with realistic situations. Having the riders swap off and each give a gut opinion is very informative.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

maybe next time.

[@TheKishore88]

Pleasure to watch the madness and to prove that age and CC is just a number! Lots of love for lot more Miles ❤

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Cheers for watching!

[@curlyeagle]

I liked the fact that you guys rode the sh!t out of the. Actually putting them thru their paces. Also the fact that you guys are my age and shows they are still manageable and capable. Thank you for the raw informative review and the banter was great and real

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@dw1168]

I actually like your solo ride and review and where you dig into more details, but this was great and appreciate the content, well done!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'm still going to do that, just waiting on some accessories to come for the Himi. I really need an off road bashplate.

[@iwannaapple7190]

First time viewer and I really did not expect that. Great job.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Lots to see on MADTV. Movie length adventures from all over the world. bike reviews and bike builds .

[@zaheerahmed4901]

Hi mate did you get bottom out on the Himalayan while riding

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes we did, a couple of times but considering the pace and where were taking it, it did well.

[@jthefish88]

Good format Dave!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks

[@markrichardson8382]

Dave, this was a hoot. This new style of grit off roading was a winner for me so just mix ya two styles of reviews and keep moving forward old boy...... Ill take the CF Moto over the Himalayan any day 👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks

[@defecationzen]

the format makes good sense! maybe nosh and nugget should switch up through the mudpool crossings too and we can perhaps see better comparative comments from nosh about the himalayan.

[@noshify]

The ergos of the CFMoto suit me better and I was just more comfortable on the dirt on the CFMoto. Both bikes can do similar routes and most likely owners will tweak each bike to suit them. Great time for the Adv bike market and riders all over.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Anything is possible, we have the bikes long term.

[@jasonperry1444]

Great format for real world reviews, good to mix it up I reckon 👌

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

More to come!

[@easy4steve]

hey guys , Yes it was a good idea doing the ride like that. seemed a lot of fun , it sure will open up for new riders to find a safe cheap bike to start on or a older rider which has not ridden for a few years to start on. for me ill stick with my 2023 ktm 690 enduro R , from Bunbury KTM . i live in Geraldton but travel to Bunbury for great deals and service . keep up the good work guys ! cheers Steve/Geraldton

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks mate

[@GCTO239]

Himi for me...all day!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

OK!

[@CarolSchimpf]

Appreciate the detailed breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

ha ha

[@cliff1551]

What do you run on your husky 701.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Prielli Scorpion Rally Race - I am supported by Pirelli

[@MotoRidesAustralia]

I really enjoyed that, Dave. I love the format. It's good information chock-full of fun! Proper adventure.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you liked it.

[@brendanross7681]

Loved the less formal format, I think it works well as followup to your more structured review. Where did you hear the about the release date for 390 ADV R?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Maaate I'm a journo!

[@brendanross7681]

I know, just trying to work out if it a source or a guesstimate :)