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2022 Yamaha MT-10 SP Review - First Ride

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@cliveomahoney4096
@cliveomahoney4096 2 жыл бұрын
It's not underrated in the UK, we love it. Best seller.
@chicagoui9299
@chicagoui9299 2 жыл бұрын
Can't beat what this bike offers with the price it's offering. Period. This is one hell of a street bike.
@bachshl
@bachshl 2 жыл бұрын
With end of year Aprilia discount Tuono Factory 1100 is just $1,500 more, and Tuono v4 (non factory ) is even $1,000 cheaper. So not really sure about "can't beat" statement.
@Insight5504
@Insight5504 2 жыл бұрын
@Shlomi Bachar I'm not sure about anyone else but I typically factor in the cost of ownership and residual value if I ever 0lan to sell it in the future.
@maybe5883
@maybe5883 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, that’s why I own one, very, very, fun bike
@frankfeng6199
@frankfeng6199 11 ай бұрын
​@@bachshl as someone with an rsv4 and an mt10sp, the maintenance costs are wild for the Aprilia. Every 12k miles a valve adjustment is $2000. The mt10 check is every 26k miles and $800. And that's just one aspect. It's like European performance cars, their price isn't far off, but it's the cost to own one that gets you Don't get me wrong, I don't think I'll ever not have an aprilia, but let's not forget the actual cost to have one
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 10 ай бұрын
​@@frankfeng6199Adjust your own valves. It isn't difficult
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 Жыл бұрын
Not a very good review of this excellent street bike, had a 2019 R1 - terrible street bike and just got MT10SP and its a great street bike, pegs are not too low, suspension is great and quick shifter is smooth as butter so I do not understand why this guy is bashing those qualities. Its a street bike first and track bike second, best comfort and performance that I have tried to date and that's going up against my 2020 Tuono 1100 Factory so props to Yamaha for making the best all around naked bike you can buy!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 10 ай бұрын
It's possible that you're just slow.
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 10 ай бұрын
@@elonmust7470 stick with your E bike😅
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 10 ай бұрын
@jimpanzer07 I ride a 2016 zx636 & a 2023 gsxr1000.. both wear full exhaust & a tune. The suzuki makes over 195whp. A neighbor rides a 2022 R1m on the street, and he loves it. He's also a pro rider.....
@davidsixside769
@davidsixside769 9 ай бұрын
How would you compare comfort wise to the R1? Im on a CBR1000RR and looking for something thats easier on the body for long rides that can still take on the twisties. Im very interested in this bike.
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 9 ай бұрын
@@davidsixside769 You can ride the MT10 all day in comfort vs an hour or so on R1, its no wonder nakeds are so popular
@scorpion-ninja8228
@scorpion-ninja8228 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha still uses 1 low beam, 1 high beam headlight system . . . instead of giving us 2 low beams together, 2 high beams together! So many manufactures do this still! Riding at night it will make a difference man!!! Good review, thanks for the 411 on how it handles at the track. As someone whos a casual trackday rider, but mostly street. This is good to hear about!
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 жыл бұрын
There's this Myth that both lights ON at the same time would make it seem like headlights on a car still far away and maybe cause some kind of "distance perception dependent" accidents. I personally think it's B.S and would like both ON AT ALL TIMES.
@LesterOng-id4gj
@LesterOng-id4gj 2 жыл бұрын
I am hoping that this review is made by you, Troy. I'm glad you're the right one to review this bike!
@eman8653
@eman8653 2 жыл бұрын
So a yamaha R1 would probably be better for track use! Never would have guessed 😉
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer a soft initial bite on any road vehicle. My Multi has Brembo M50s that are soft initially and with a little more squeeze they're very powerful, I can't imagine wanting more powerful brakes. Same as my car, a CTS V sport, 6 pot Brembos up front, soft initially, but if I step on it my PS4S tires will give up before the brakes. Why would you want jerky brake application on the street?
@yassim0008
@yassim0008 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about the paint scheme from the r1. It’s beautiful
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 2 жыл бұрын
Rode it recently, loved it. Does pretty much everything very well indeed. Only gripe for me is the still-horrible-despite-mpg-improvements tank range. If they changed it to a 5(+) gallon tank this thing would be able to stretch into the tourer niche in more people's garages. Living in SW USA that tank range is unacceptable for crossing deserts. (Edit: Perhaps Yamaha are intentionally leaning into the 'Empty-10 meme' dunno.)
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 жыл бұрын
4 gallons x 30 mpg is 120 miles of range you don't have to worry about. The longest highway stretch without gas stations, I70 through Utah, is 106 miles and I'm not sure if you think Utah is the southwest. But whatever I'm on a Multistrada that gets 45-50mpg in the SW with a 5 gallon tank :p
@quanwick4516
@quanwick4516 Жыл бұрын
Just add 1 tooth bigger front sprocket to get more miles out of it 👍
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
@@aluisious Who's going to fill their tank to the tippy-top exactly before taking off on that stretch, and make sure not to rip on the throttle until they covered the entire stretch, to where there is a convenient service station waiting on the exact opposite side? That's called very inconvenient, and zero tolerance fuel capacity. And it's just stupid. ONE GALLON extra is a whole 6 pounds weight. How much detriment is ONE GALLON extra?
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 10 ай бұрын
​@aluisious You haven't been to Eastern Oregon & or western Navada. From Lakeview OR to Denio NV is 117 miles. Denio only has 87 octane. So, if you run 93 octane, it's 211 miles between Lakeview Oregon & Winnemucca Nevada... 211 miles of high desert hills & valleys.
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 10 ай бұрын
​@@exothermal.sprocketalmost none. There are some very reliable gas tanks on the market these days. Carrying 2 extra gallons is very easy!
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Suspension should change with modes? Again, most average riders probably can not tell the difference Steel vs rubber brakes lines. Just as long as brakes stop
@tsquine87
@tsquine87 3 ай бұрын
I may be the odd man out with this comment. However, I suggest prospective MT-10 SP buyers take this review with a grain of salt. It highlights many negatives that I dont see in my recently acquired 2023 MT-10 SP with less than 500 mi ridden. Brakes are fantastic, quickshifter is superb, even at low-mid RPM, power delivery is spot on in A1 mode. Suspension is still an area I'm getting used to as semi-active is a first for me. It's stiff when I need it and compliant when it should. My other ride is a 2019 stage 3 tuned KTM Superduke 1290 R with multiple A-group trackdays on the same track as the reviewer in this video. The KTM is raw and aggressive, but I think my new MT-10 would hang with the pack very well in the same setting. To that end, I question the reviewer's riding capabilities - both in canyon and on track, his line choices were terrible. A single day at California Superbike School would break those bad habits and the bike might not be the recipient of such faults.
@HeyAddieImTojo
@HeyAddieImTojo 2 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one that don’t prefer the ”bitey-just-by-touching-the-lever” brakes?
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 2 жыл бұрын
Too bitey is definitely a thing in my book. But I also never worry about what reviewers say about brakes. Brakes are the most setup sensitive part of the bike bar maybe tires. Poorly set up brakes on demo bikes seems all too common. I've never owned brakes I couldn't tune to be at least acceptable to me. I'll add that dealers don't do a great job of initial setup either from what I've seen. Brakes need TLC.
@HeyAddieImTojo
@HeyAddieImTojo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kleinbottled79 i had a ktm 990 with big fat brembos and the previous owner also had agressive pads. Felt like the lightest contact the pads made against the disc sucked them to it. Way to bitey. Now i own a husky 701sm. Brakes feel great, but i have also owned it for 2 years and made it my own. So i see your point.
@bljuhl1345
@bljuhl1345 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a comment for you motorheads, that crossplane 4 cylinder engine is my idea! Had that “crazy idea” back in 1974, it works is all i care, never made a dime off any ideas i’ve had, poor kid from the wrong side of the tracks i suppose!
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
You were a tad late.The crossplane crank concept was first established circa 1915... before you were even born.
@petea1663
@petea1663 2 ай бұрын
Hey man, thanks for the details on the suspension - this is my main concern about the SP. I have a 2017 Multistrada Pikes Peak with manual Ohlins and rode my buddies Multi with the Skyhook suspension and didn’t like the adaptive suspension at all, felt very strange to me. Food for thought
@njohnson3331
@njohnson3331 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm chronic complainer, but it seems all the MT-10's in my area are: A) bought up by the various training schools B) bought up by other entities (tire testers, rental places) C) reserved 6 months in advance at my local shops or on back order D) used market examples are heavily modified, but sketchy histories E) all of the above (none available)
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like overnight most liter naked bikes are $20,000 plus. Many near $30,000. Harley just as expensive. I would rather a car. Enter the middle category or this new MT 10. This MT 10 a lot for the money. That new Hornet, Aprilia 660, and Trident 660 all are usable street power. Love ur video
@joeblow5037
@joeblow5037 2 жыл бұрын
This....or a Grom? 🤔
@JDeezle21
@JDeezle21 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@STATION26ADDISON
@STATION26ADDISON Жыл бұрын
I just put a deposit down on a 2023 mt10 sp any suggestions !!!! pick it up April 6th
@JK-wz7uj
@JK-wz7uj 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I defo suggest you pick it up
@robertgrant008
@robertgrant008 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review,very helpful
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Super Duke and MV AGusta 800rr Pirelli edition. My second super Duke as that engine is awesome. The triple is great also like v4 with more character, Torque and high rpm horsepower. Both bikes hard to use 50% of the power. Like a keep saying, middle weights are best for the street. They make perfect horsepower for the street. Nice to use 70% of the power most the time with a middle weight. Even straightaways with 100% power triple digits too fast for the street. I like EV this review and great bike. Would you buy the MT09 over MT10 for the street??
@dannygernaat9961
@dannygernaat9961 2 жыл бұрын
Yea the 09 is far better for on the street. Thats why i bought the 890R over the Superduke
@Supernova12034
@Supernova12034 Жыл бұрын
facts
@codenamenoob4973
@codenamenoob4973 Жыл бұрын
Why don't they put brembo calipers on it 🤦 everyone I know that has one says the brakes are shite
@mrbookends
@mrbookends 7 ай бұрын
Shopping around for this season's bike and I have to ask: why would I spend 17k on this when I can spend 17.4k on a Tuono Factory?
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie 2 жыл бұрын
Cool engine, wished they used it on a sports tourer.
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 2 жыл бұрын
With like a 7 gallon tank to feed the beast; yeah I totally agree. What a great motor it would be for blasting down miles of lonely cross country highway at a high rate of speed.
@monkeyCmonkeyDoo
@monkeyCmonkeyDoo 2 жыл бұрын
buy one and add bags a better seat and a windscreen. You can "sport-tour" on anything.
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie 2 жыл бұрын
@B Midd true, but I need better range and better ergos like the tracer.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
XSR and MT-09 with the small 3.7 gallon tanks probably have better range.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
So... Buy the base model MT-10. Buy fork cartridges, springs, and a 3-way rear shock. Install. Buy full exhaust and filter. ECU flash with a tune. Better than MT-10SP.
@SirMountainpass
@SirMountainpass Жыл бұрын
Also add a pro brake upgrade (braided brake lines and sinter track / road pads) and the comfort seat😉
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
@@SirMountainpass Yep. Gotta stop as well as go. Yamaha hasn't been the pinnacle of braking performance that's for sure. Why don't they just put Brembo M50 on their machines?
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 Жыл бұрын
base model colors are horrible compared to SP
@antoniocamacho6524
@antoniocamacho6524 Жыл бұрын
Great video review, as an fz10 owner I was wondering what race quick shifter up and down do you recommend?
@Chris-gi9ch
@Chris-gi9ch Жыл бұрын
Frankly I'm willing to sacrifice some performance/handling for a simple oil change procedure, and reliability. That's where Yamaha wins me over the European bikes.
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 2 жыл бұрын
I like the mt10, not enough to have bought one ! It seems Yamaha have saved money with the conrods and valves. Think I'd prefer quality manual suspension and save some money.
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel that way. Electronic suspension is a bridge to far with me on a motorcycle. I wanna set it up and have it react in a dead consistent fashion until I choose to twist a spanner again. Also, how expensive are those things to fix and how many extra ways do they have of going wrong? The benefits don't out way the costs.
@AndreiOBK
@AndreiOBK 2 жыл бұрын
The MT10 - not this SP version - could work for you and it's much cheaper than the SP.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
Swap the top tree and a handlebar onto an R1.
@xclent1975
@xclent1975 Жыл бұрын
Agree great MC but you know what is even better at a cheaper price ? Suzuki GSX s750 2023 for $8495 msrp can get it for $7599 all day plus TTL
@Navillus2273
@Navillus2273 Жыл бұрын
Will the lift control stop one from looping this bike?
@ride129
@ride129 9 ай бұрын
yes.
@Navillus2273
@Navillus2273 9 ай бұрын
@@ride129 interesting. Others say no? Have you tested this?
@yiannishayabusaofficial
@yiannishayabusaofficial 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video great ! ! ! ! ! ! !
@Interdiction
@Interdiction 9 ай бұрын
You cannot compare a Yam to a Ducati simply because of the price . This bike has so much to offer for the price with the added bonus that WHEN you drop it not IF as you will DROP it . Then it will not skint you to repair it . Try ringing its neck . It will surprise you how well it goes . If your a cheap skate like me you would just Street an R1 then you get way more power way more
@angry_genius
@angry_genius 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ride
@mpt117
@mpt117 2 жыл бұрын
If I were you guys, I'd buy the previous generation MT-10SP
@bikepoint2716
@bikepoint2716 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice 👍
@crownmoto
@crownmoto 2 жыл бұрын
Love the price point, but it'll never be a Super Duke or SFV4S. Nice hat, Troy!😎
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 2 жыл бұрын
Or a Tuono. Thing is, here, where I live [France] the MT10 SP is more expensive than a Tuono [non Factory, which I have]. Also I just can't get past the looks on these MT10's and MT 09's. So I will pass.
@llwellyn1
@llwellyn1 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your perspective in this review Troy. I'm sure I'd love riding the MT-10, but there would be no fawning over it in the garage afterward. It's just so hideous.....twice beaten with the ugly stick. I really don't care for the design language of Yamaha as of late. The FJR1300 is the big exception there. I had a 2015 ES model for a couple of years. It had classic lines, with a monster motor, and handled great. I'm really hoping Yamaha does a better job with the aesthetics of the upcoming R9. That is the bike I'm most interested in seeing in 2023.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Truthfully unless your racing or a professional most riders can not tell the difference in suspension let alone the brakes. If it stops the brakes are good. If bumps are not to harsh or suspension does not pogo stick, it’s good enough. 150 horsepower’s is plenty for the street. Most can not use 100 horsepower 100% of the time. There will always be halo bikes for the most recent tech. That will filter down. Horsepower wars starting up like cars. Do we need 400 horsepower motorcycles
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Electronic suspension is a magic carpet ride, though. It’s up to you. At least with Yamaha you do not need stage 1-4 for power that should come from factory stock. Harley listening.
@mmahdim5912
@mmahdim5912 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing biike
@Twistedmetallic
@Twistedmetallic Жыл бұрын
Here in norway is MT-10 SP $2000 more expencive than superduke 1290R
@SirMountainpass
@SirMountainpass Жыл бұрын
It is also way more reliable than the KTM😎✌️🏁
@TonySampson-d3f
@TonySampson-d3f Жыл бұрын
You didn't talk much about the power?
@abhijitdutta7363
@abhijitdutta7363 6 ай бұрын
Looks like Triumph Street Triple
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
MT 09 or MT10 for street only?
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
Depends what you have owned before and what you value most in a bike.. You would be paying a lot more for a MT10 and using a lot less of its performance envelope on the road. Fuel consumption isn't great by comparison either. If I did a lot of track days that would probably sway me more in the MT10's direction but for me, my type of riding and my local roads the lighter more flickable MT09 SP is absolutely perfect and Its certainly quick enough for the road... for me at least.
@chicagoui9299
@chicagoui9299 2 жыл бұрын
Take it to Moore Mafia. He'll fix those little things.
@killerdeviant
@killerdeviant 2 жыл бұрын
You guys usually do way better reviews than this.
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 2 жыл бұрын
In their defense this is a first ride review which is usually at about this level if I'm recalling correctly. Then, later, they will get the bike for a longer period of time and do something more comprehensive. Full review. Maybe a Comparo. Maybe a class shootout. Shrug.
@TroySiahaan
@TroySiahaan 2 жыл бұрын
@@kleinbottled79 Yeah. What he said. One day on the road, one day at the track. I have the bike at home now and plan on putting more miles...and maybe some mods... to it. I'll report back later.
@phillippugh2161
@phillippugh2161 9 ай бұрын
So take a Street bike to the race track an complain....really . Fyi stop comparing a 16k bike to a 24k Ducati
@rolan2dr
@rolan2dr Жыл бұрын
Triumph 765 rs owns this
@SirMountainpass
@SirMountainpass Жыл бұрын
Never - it lacks torque in the low- and mid range… The in-gear acceleration of the MT 10 is simply insane, forget the 765 RS 😅
@aleksandrptitsyn6654
@aleksandrptitsyn6654 2 жыл бұрын
So ugly bike, it really feels like they did it ugly on purpose, so that nobody will buy it because the price is too good.
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 Жыл бұрын
Its not as pretty as some of the others but the motor and comfort make up for that and does everything great in the canyons.
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 2 жыл бұрын
Are you asking which is uglier? 😉
@rolan2dr
@rolan2dr Жыл бұрын
Wow that dash menu is just awful. Looks like a gameboy from the 90s
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th 2 жыл бұрын
$3k more than the stock bike makes it dead in the water for me. Wish the Japanese 4 would make real contenders to the Europeans. I don't really want to spend $20k plus for the top of the line.
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie 2 жыл бұрын
You want Ohlins, steel braided brake lines, brembo calipers, and better tires for less than $20K? Sounds like a unicorn. What the Japanese 4 need are "luxury" brand spin offs a la Lexus and Acura. But motorcyclists are cheap and conservative and they probably won't sell too many so they don't do it.
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