Secrets of a Road Tester: Group Riding | MCN

[@7marcantoine]

Am i the only one that mostly knows all of this but watched it all anyway simply because of how good the video is?

[@aspectcarl]

you are are not the only one, when we ride as a group we ride staggered as well 🙂

[@jd2ndacct431]

Better than pcx commuter one. Look at the comments on that compared to this. Back to top quality now though well done mcn

[@G100666]

No, you are not the only one but it only takes one or two people that don't understand how to behave in a group to cause massive problems.

[@davegreenslade4539]

Yeah you’re the only one 🤪😜

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

I sold my last bike a few years ago! I'm tempted again. But I watch these because they're enjoyable. Michael Neeves is great. Direct, simple, but technical. He cuts through any nonsense. And I like 44 Teeth. A pair of fun guys with good skills at riding and talking and Youtubing. And they have great guest presenters. Good to see Baron from 44 Teeth even mention Michael Neeves of the most recent video about the new BMW S1000R track launch. Where Baron said Neeves get them advice about traction control settings. Basically set it to maximum and then reduce it as you like.

[@Rayk76]

Superbly executed, from a Garda roads policing unit officer, 🇮🇪

[@phone407]

Hi Micheal Neeves! I love all of these nuggets of wisdom you keep sharing with us. :) I have learned a lot from you and have been watching your videos for years now, thank you! Greetings from Southern California!

[@piggymito]

I've really been enjoying these videos. I've been running more or less daily for 21 years now since I was 16 and definitely in the camp that believes you're always learning. Neevsey has a really good way of teaching without sounding condescending though unlike a lot of instructional folk on KZbin. Thanks a lot guys and keep up the great work! 👍

[@Jeff_Klein]

Great tips, appreciate it. You guys are killing with the content lately.

[@Lankykrm]

Great video to watch even as a reminder. Only thing I’d have added is pulling up in town/city traffic in pairs, if possible, to keep the group together. Otherwise have posted in all the group chats for our newer riders! Keep it up.

[@tomnorris1734]

Interesting. When I'm overtaking on a ride with friends if I can see the Road ahead to be clear I always stay in the right lane to show that it is clear, especially if I have a better / less obscured view than other bikes. I also do this when driving with friends. But then we all do it and know what is happening and why it's happening. Its important to know who you're riding with and why they do what they do.

[@drink4711]

excellent and very timely video, as many people are getting ready for their bike holiday

[@thetorontoscrambler]

Ahhh bike holiday is on my bucket list!

[@doug3011]

I simply love this series of videos, really helpful.you can't beet the voice of experience . good work. d

[@motorcyclenewsdotcom]

Glad you like them!

[@BlackThor15]

What an awesome series Michael, well done and thanks for sharing your knowledge. You guys rock. 👍👍

[@glennpuckeridge6244]

A really well produced video and you make some strong arguments to support the approach that you use. In Australia, we are taught not to stagger group rides. The reasoning is that staggering does not allow you to place yourself in the safest position as you pass hazards. (For example buffering away from an oncoming car). It is also argued that staggering frustrates following drivers and possibly increases the chance of multiple riders being involved in a fall. I have done a lot of training and firmly believe there is more than one way to ride well but I would be very interested to hear your comments on my concerns about staggering.

[@Valks-22]

I would argue for also changing the lead rider, on longer rides being in the lead taking care to ride in the best way possible, keep an eye on the whole group, and maintain pace everyone can enjoy and follow takes a toll. My solo B-road route is 150km of pure fun and minimum 'toll' so much I can double it effortlessly, but if I take it with some friends as the lead and do all of the above by the end I need break.

[@creedm3040]

Great content! I’m enjoying this series. Best!

[@bephremb]

Great video series…keep them coming please 😊

[@johna6968]

Dont recall ever signalling left on a single carriageway once completing the overtake.

[@jimlee3725]

That commercial is just WOW.

[@sailor5026]

Thank you.

[@scottbailey5644]

Learning lots, good stuff. Cheers!

[@JDeezle21]

Give me this shootout video please along with the Ninja 1000SX. I know you already did the GSX-S1000 & 1000SX but it's just great seeing them all together and going against each other. Also include the Ducati SuperSport

[@Dereksol]

Great video. Well done everyone 😎👍

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Michael Neeves, you're so good at this. Have you thought about a skills improvement course for riders who have passed their test and have experience but still want to improve their skills? I've watched a couple of videos about Japanese police motorcycle gymkhana on KZbin. Very small type course with only 1 m width of cones to ride between in a very complex shape at running speed. Is there something we can do to improve that's also fun and a bit social? On a track day I tried out something like a Yamaha YZF250 they had set up for Supermotard. Pay a few quid and have a go for 10 minutes :-)

[@Lacehairwigs]

Excellent.

[@Krom1hell]

I kinda hate being in a fixed position or a staggered position...... That's why I keep to the back in with the sweeper team that just isn't civilized in that way and just muck around until needed.

[@steve00alt70]

The way I see it the more people you have in a group the more dangerous it becomes.

[@ragerider6283]

Great vid & advice but I've always strongly disliked group riding for all the negative reasons mentioned. The problem you have is that everyone needs to play by these guidelines but there's always one or two that don't that more often than it ruins it for me unfortunately.

[@2255-Achu]

❤️

[@folerx]

my position is that i want to see face of rider in front of me in his mirror. if speed allows.

[@fingerhorn4]

"Staggered" riding is utterly flawed, because you have two bikes in a rigid position on what is in this example a narrow road. FORGET group riding. It's dangerous, whatever spin you want to put on it, and whatever you do. The rider on the outside is always vulnerable to oncoming traffic, and the inside one vulnerable in a different way. The best thing is to ride AS INDIVIDUALS and keep at least 15 bike lengths apart, or more on a damp road. You need to be able to use the full width of your side of the road according to conditions, but err on the side of keeping away from the centre especially around blind corners. More accidents occur on group rides than any other kind. Peer pressure to keep up is one of the factors.

[@spartanthe300ththermopylae4]

@fingerhorn4 15 bike lengths apart? Nah, it's not enough. About 55 - 75 bike lengths apart is much safer.