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@coltonowens27422 жыл бұрын
I've seen allot of dudes who've never ridden dirt bikes, trail bikes, or duel sports think their gonna buy a T7 and go do singletrack. If you wanna get hurt then go right ahead, but the T7 for any average rider is a TERRIBLE bike for off roading.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Colton I agree, It is a tough bull to handle. People see other riders like pole tarres throw it around like a trials bike and think its not that hard. Having one I can tell you that it takes some time, and is a hard bike on single track. I dont know if you watched it all but I really tried to drive that point home when I said its not a beginner bike.
@coltonowens27422 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Yeah man, I'm more referring to dudes who've ridden street bikes for years, thinking the T7 is gonna be their first "Off Road" bike. There's another you-tuber (who I won't mention, not looking to throw shade) who bought a T7 and mentions it being his first off road bike, and doing singletrack on it, only to be in for a rude awakening. He later added a 300L to his fleet to. Right tool right job, unless your a damn animal and it doesn't matter which isn't most of us.
@Propelled2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. Same as people trying to ride challenging dirt on 1200s I remember the days when a 600 was considered a set of keys for an orthopedic doctor’s Mercedes. It’s just a pig. Long days in the dirt are so much more FUN on a dirty day.
@Jungleland332 жыл бұрын
I'm getting myself a T7 at some stage. It will be used 80-90% on road with some light TET adventures. I had a Maico 490 back in the 80s......but I'm not so stupid to think I'm as strong or as fit as I was then. Know you abilities folks.
@lukeblossom85802 жыл бұрын
It's also as I've noticed requires a lot of respect, in young and dum 20 year old and let's face it decision isn't the best for a guy my age😂, I know the 300 which I do own is perfect because even when I do get frisky with he throttle it's more forgiving
@arturosolas1290 Жыл бұрын
if you want showmanship, home comfort and prefer the crowd,.... choose Tenere, if you want real offroad the CRF300L will suit you just fine.
@jamesbatten86592 жыл бұрын
I owned the T7 and it’s tall and top heavy , I’m in my fifties and have a bad knee and hip , getting old is shit. But it’s a heavy bike and for my skill set it was too much so now I’m riding a 300 l. I’m 210 pounds so I’ve fitted YSS rear shock and upgraded the fork spring , really improved the handling on and off road . Absolutely love the little Honda , far more fun than the bigger bikes ,best move Ive made . Love the channel . All the best from the UK 🇬🇧🏍
@Branden-g9d2 ай бұрын
Does the yss shock lower the 300 ar all !
@bradrussell624 Жыл бұрын
Just want to give you some honest feedback with appreciation for each and every video I've watched from you is truly awesome, high quality in production and especially content rich info based on experience, not philosophy, cheers
@armored-clown11 ай бұрын
I was veeeerryy close to grabbing a 2024 T7 but after realizing I ride 80% off road went with a 2023 CRF300 Rally. Got it for $5,000 and throwing about $4,000 in upgrades on it and it’s freaking incredible
@Thatbeardedguy867 ай бұрын
Man I’m torn right now. I moved to WA and got the 300L because of all the supposed tracks. But they’re all so damn far that riding on the road for 3-6 hours to get to them one way sucks. Almost thinking of getting the Tenere instead and just give up most off road except forest roads. At least I could get to them.
@armored-clown7 ай бұрын
@@Thatbeardedguy86I got rid of the Rally pretty quickly, I ride a KTM 500 EXC-F now. I’m not a fan of riding pavement so I literally just haul the bike to areas with trails then ride out from there. I also base camp ride so I’ll set up my camping stuff at a campground then ride the trails within the area that I’m camping in
@Thatbeardedguy867 ай бұрын
@@armored-clownsee even the KTM 500 was something I was considering instead. If I’m going to just use a bike for dirt, get a dirt bike.
@nickchilds223 Жыл бұрын
Really like your reviews. I just got a new 300L and after one ride I am ear to ear smiles. Granted I have not ridden many other bikes but I can see this bike being a long term friend
@ant24002 ай бұрын
an older video, but still filled with great information that applies to the same bikes offered today (basically unchanged). my first time watching your videos and I really like how you speak, how you cover information, your over all presentation is stellar. No hype, no bs. Great job.
@danielhusain75702 жыл бұрын
This is the comparison review I didn't know I needed! Now reconsidering the 300L as my unicorn for travel and offroad in SE Asia. The investment : Fun ratio looks ideal. (liked and subbed)
@lucaspeden3727 Жыл бұрын
fuel injection is a drawback for me personally offroad
@superman2422422 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison ! Love the tenere . As a rally owner your estimate is pretty good I would say on average 400 km range but I have pushed it as far as 550 km when taking it extra easy !
@tinylittlegiant Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! Although i totally love the T7 design, i must say nimble and agile sometimes is a win. Especially in my country where there are a lot of mountainous areas. We drive smaller cc bikes here, and we have a lot of XR150L, CRF250L, WR155R, XTZ125, KLX250, etc. not just for dual-sport but for daily commuting as well. You don't need to go fast, you just need to glide through the terrains with ease.
@lukeblossom85802 жыл бұрын
I run the 300l rally and I absolutely love the bike, also great job on the content 👍
@mikeguitarification2 жыл бұрын
Very happy with my 300L for all the reasons you pointed out in this video. Nice analysis.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mike, I feel it is a really solid bike. Especially for its cost and service intervals.
@mauricelowery97112 жыл бұрын
Very nice vid. I considered the T7 and went with the 300Rally and loving it!. If I have to take a cross country ride I take my GoldWing. But now I find myself riding the 300 Rally over my GW or my VRod Muscle, and always searching for another off-road trail.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, and yeah I can see that. These little bikes are fun.
@vtwinfant502 жыл бұрын
Andrew, Thoroughly enjoyed this comparo, (yup …easily captured my attention to the end). The factors used to differentiate bikes, personal insights only an owner can offer, combined with high quality videography and screen caption editing really made this “Must see TV” 👍 Been decades since riding off-road, but am seriously considering my first adult dual sport purchase. 30” inseam & AARP qualified age, suggest a shaved seat + K-link would be wise (at least initially) to develop bike handling skills. New subscriber, your excellent work deserves greater recognition!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, so what bike are you thinking of starting with?
@vtwinfant502 жыл бұрын
Oops, I shoulda specified the CRF 300L. Sure, the Yamaha XT 250 is more inseam friendly …but I would only consider it as a ‘transition bike’. I learned how to handle my first adventure bike (Suzuki Vstrom 1000) pretty quickly, without modifying seat or suspension.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@vtwinfant50 ohh well you will be fine with the 300L I'm sure.
@Mikidimeister2 жыл бұрын
Great video, watched it to the end. I own the tenere 700 2021. Its the perfect bike for me as I want to ride dirt roads an some tarmac long distances. I want to travel and motocamp. Perfect tool to explore new places here in Finland.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Hello to a fellow owner, yes I feel this bike is great for what you are doing. I do the same with it.
@paulcamino50342 жыл бұрын
You are exactly correct on your review, I own a big bore 2013 wr290r with all the freckles, 90/10 tires, the best bike I ever owned period with 30000mi and a basically stock T7 with 50/50 tires, I am a very good dirt rider in south Jersey, did a number of enduros, harescrambles, at first a did not like the T7 at all, then I got back in racing shape rode the t7 alot this winter on single track and it makes you a much better dirt rider, you have to use all your dirt bike skills to ride it off road, just got back last weekend and rode the wr290r on singletrack and I was just turning and burning, felt like it was a lirtle pit bike, actually I think the best unicorn adventure dual sport motorcycle for under 400mi adventure is these small japanese 300cc bikes, if you stay off the interstates, a small rally windscreen, seat concept seat, 3gal tank, the only reason I bought the T7, I sold my street cruiser and take my T7 on 2000mi week trips
@r.five.3 Жыл бұрын
Would love if you could revisit this but with the CRF450RL vs the T7
@darrenmaclean1122 ай бұрын
Excellent unbiased review. I'm an experienced rider (50 years) having trialled and raced. I'm looking to get back into dual sport after many years out and feel that the lighter bike will be for me, especially being based in the UK countryside, where straight and fast roads are scarce. I'd probably go for the Rally for the longer tank range. Thank you.
@robgiavanno62002 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m going with the 300l Rally. Cheaper to buy, cheaper on gas, cheaper on insurance (here in Canada) and enough bike for my day to day needs. Thanks Andrew!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get that, I just have one for each purpose.
@docmadhattan2 жыл бұрын
How much of a difference was there for insurance?
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@docmadhattan idk I pay like 70$ a year for both.
@docmadhattan2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad that's a good price. Wondering about the Canadian guy though. And, for you specifically, 70/year? Not per month? Cheers and thanks for the videos. If I ever get into it myself I'll be sure to give you a shoutout.
@douglassmith32322 жыл бұрын
I watched it all! Thank you for your time, effort, and insight.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch it all.
@mikecooper29982 жыл бұрын
Great video comparison Andrew! I currently own a Tenere 700, a DR650, a KLR650, and an FZ1. I keep throwing around the idea of replacing my KLR with the 300l. A couple more videos like this and I don't think I'll be able to fight the urge!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
You have quite a garage there, all good bikes. I mean the 300L doesnt give you that rush when you rip the throttle but it will feel like a feather compared to those others.
@TheDfelan2 жыл бұрын
Why not a KLX300? Sounds like you would be using the T7 more on road/adventure, the new 300 would be used more off-road and has way better suspension out of the box. Unless you plan on throwing money at the Honda. I have a T7 too btw (and a Hypermotard)
@samsonmanna90175 ай бұрын
Which one would you pick for a cross country trip that includes 4x4 trails in national parks, camping, and interstate travel?
@SmokinZen2 жыл бұрын
Good video I love my T7 but I know my limitations on it off-road which sometimes it feels like the bike is telling me to go there every time. I have had all the drops and picking up drama and of course the bruises from taking it beyond my limits. So this is why the 300L interests me as a second bike. Bottom line is I’m getting old and it’s getting harder to pickup that T7. A lighter bike would be so welcoming. That way I could have the best of both worlds.
@vernonhurley13002 жыл бұрын
I own a 300 rally. My suggestion is stay with the T7. The crf is a lawnmower. It doesn't like going faster than sixty and feels very top heavy. Maybe a regular crf is better but I thought the rally would fit my riding better because of on road use.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
It is funny you say that about picking it up, I went as far to add dealifts to my lifting regimen just for that reason haha. But to be honest the 300L is a bike that can teach you a lot.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Vernon I do not feel that with my 300L but I dont know about the rally. I may have one coming soon tho, so we will see.
@docmadhattan2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you? I'm hoping to get into one of these bikes or similar soon. Might also wait it out until Yam releases a Tenere 300, since they recently dropped the WR250R from their dual sport lineup. It just makes sense they'd release a T3 at some point.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@docmadhattan I am 5'10" tall. And yeah I will be getting one of those Yamahas. I did a whole video on it, tho I don't think it will be soon.
@stella13661 Жыл бұрын
Happy to subscribe, I'm another fortunate one that own both models😊😊
@thecornishbiker9323 Жыл бұрын
I think yamaha should come out with a 400 version with around 45hp and low weight They would sell out.
@jimdoolan22772 жыл бұрын
That was a great video thank you 😊 got me a honda 300L down here in new Zealand great little bike 🏍 have a suzuki v Strom 1050xt for the road work and it's a great bike as well Cheers
@arrowworks-uk2 жыл бұрын
watched to the end! cant understand why a viewer would start and not finish. Good vid
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! the thing is, so many people do not finish videos. If you saw the analytics. It seems people only ever stay 6 mins or so, and that is on many channels.
@DPSmith632 жыл бұрын
Thanks - an accurate video. I think what gets a lot of people is not knowing exactly what they want to do on their bike, even with these sorts of comparisons. I had street bikes and the T7 appealed to me for all the positives that you mention - price, simplicity, capability and reliability, plus the ability to get off pavement. But, as you and others have pointed out, I found out it's not great for technical riding, especially without the skills. Picking it up gets old quick. So I bought a 300L to learn the technical aspects of trail riding and it has helped me improve how I ride the T7. The two bikes are similar yet very different and they complement each other well. If i had to pick between the 2 it would be very difficult, they are both awesome and fun bikes. I grin ear to ear every time I ride either one. Just depends on what I want to do that day. Longer distances - pavement and forest service roads, or having to ride to a trail head and exploring some singletrack or whatever comes along. My advice is to get both :)
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Well said Dan, I agree with everything you listed here. I myself also really enjoy having them both but I know not everyone can do that. I think maybe thats why so many people asked for a video like this.
@socaladventure23402 жыл бұрын
Spot on!!!👍👍👍👍
@rickgilman38282 жыл бұрын
Can’t find any T7’s at the dealers up here in the PNW but I plan to buy one. I’m hearin 6 months to a year wait. Excellent breakdown and analysis all the way through to the end!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am.glad you liked the video.
@garyburleson10102 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. Excellent descriptions. Watched to the end. Planning to get a 300. I’ve been comparing to the CB500X but have decided against it. I’m wanting more off road. I have a Indian Challenger for my long distance road trips.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Well I think you already have your answer, you already have a good rode bike so the 300L or 300rally should be what you spring for. As for just offroad the 300L is better and you can drop it 1000 times without worrying about cracking the ferrings the rally has. But the rally has better lights and a huge fuel tank getting you a 260mile + range. So all depends what you want to do with the bike. I really dont think the CB500X is a good bike overall, I think it is caught in the middle of a catch all bike and is not really good offraod, but you already have a road bike. Anyway I hope that helps.
@stretcht711 ай бұрын
Great review. I have a T7, but I really like the CRF300.
@smithcccc Жыл бұрын
Yo keep up the good work brother I got a drz 650 and love ur vids man. I'll send my riding buddies links to ur vids keep up the good work man
@mmpatriot21702 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel. I’ve watched a bunch of your videos and now I’m subscribed. I’m in the market for a dual sport bike to ride around the mountain roads of northern Utah and to take on some moderate mountain and desert trails. I’ve been looking at used bikes, but people are asking $3k for 15 to 20 year old bikes that are not in flawless condition. I think you’ve convinced me to go ahead and buy a new CRF300L. It will be all mine and last for decades. Thanks! 👍
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I hope you find one. Another great used bike is the DR350s, I loved mine and they last forever.
@samsonmanna90175 ай бұрын
Did u ever take it to the mountains? I'm trying to find a bike to take from nj to Utah, and explore the parks there, with camping gear
@HallgeirBakken Жыл бұрын
Subbed! Thank you for your thoughts. I'm stepping down from GSA and GS, going more gravel and less asphalt and longer distances
@kiwiadventurer2 жыл бұрын
I have no intention of selling my Africa Twin because like you Andrew it serves me as does your T7 serve you. I will enjoy far more for all the reasons you discuss my CRF Rally when it arrives to ride braided rivers rocky fire breaks and especially single tracks. Your experienced clarity on the subject will be a huge help to many ...... Your presentation, dialogue and editing is smooth as butter and makes for great watching. Thanks.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks so much. Reading this comment really made my day. Im glad you enjoyed it took a ton of work to put this together.
@masonh50774 ай бұрын
I have a T7 that I took on an off-road oriented trip recently. Second day out I took a wrong turn onto an unrated trail, hit some sugar sand and lost control. Twisted my leg under the bike and injured my MCL. I've been heavily considering down-sizing to a Honda CRF300L Rally to gain more experience with a more forgiving bike. Videos like this only make me more confident in that decision.
@diegopescia9602 Жыл бұрын
Based on distances, I ride 95% on road. Based on time on the motorcycle, I ride 95% offroad. When I talk about % road/offroad I always clarify on what metric I am basing it. In my case I went for a small but very capable XTZ 150 instead of a 300-400 cc road oriented bike (almost same engine sizes as the ones you are comparing but with a factor of 0.5). I chose to be a little more patient the 5% of my time on the highway in order to experience a greater joy when I finally get to ride offroad that other 95% of my time. The distances are long here but it was worth it. Once you get to the mountainous regions you can have endless fun off-pavement. Greetings from Argentina. And watched until the end
@samsonmanna90175 ай бұрын
Do you put camping gear on your bike?
@stevenrees60152 жыл бұрын
As you were asking, yes I was here to the end👍
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Steven you are the man! thank you so much.
@bainius2 жыл бұрын
So happy I came across this video! I always though of Tenere 700 as my next bike but thought of it a bit out of my budget. I recently started considering CRF 300L Rally and this video certainly gave me some confidence that I won't be making a huge mistake, especially as I want to do parts of TET. Well, if I am making a mistake, I will always be able to move up to the Tenere later 😆 Thanks for a great video!
@TheChindoboi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this review. Watched it to the end!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
@Tankerman2 жыл бұрын
Very well done. I have yet ridden either bike so I cant judge. Thats cool that your daughter rides with you. Stay safe
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for subbing. My daughter loves riding, I hope she is still my riding buddy as she gets older. I did a whole video riding with her on the channel and if you saw my Yoshimura exhaust sound comparison video she is the one riding my 300L lmao.
@pauldonelan37394 ай бұрын
Really looking at the T7 to get rid of my old kx250f. It will be a steep learning curve I am sure, but the extra power and reliability that the kx doesn't have are a big plus for me. The size doesnt bother me too much, especially when a majority of the offroading i do is on basic flowy trails and basically dirt roads anyways. With a number of riding parks withing an hour ride, it doesn't seem like a bad option.
@ericashwell13922 жыл бұрын
Agree about not even thinking to do side by side comparison of these different class bikes. But these 2 bikes in my garage together would likely end my search for the perfect ride. You’re a smart man!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thanks for the kind words.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I am getting a little criticism over on FB for this video but a bunch of my subs asked for it and the view count really shows it is something people are interested in.
@shawnolson45222 жыл бұрын
Man, awesome video!!! I still can't really decide 100%..... I wish I could have them both. This is the way!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Haha well thanks, yes they are both fun in their own way. It really comes down to what you need or what to do.
@omarriv19842 жыл бұрын
I loved the vid. I also have the t7, but instead of the 300l I would compare it to my drz 400s. I actually laughed out loud when u mentioned the lc4 640....I own one and I honestly fall in love with it every time I ride it less than 20 miles. Lol
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
You have an awesome selection of good bikes! And the LC4 was awesome, I had to get rid of it to make room/money for other bikes.
@fringelunatic2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Been waiting for the 300L to come in stock. Local dirt and commuting for me. Gas is crazy $5+ here in Cali. Gotta hang up my truck for weekends only. Great content, I really enjoyed it.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, as gas creeps up Im going to be on the bike much more. Even on rainy days.
@DragosRDS2 жыл бұрын
Very very nice video !!!! Superb organisation of the info ! Loved the Ten but I adore the little red
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I feel they are both awesome bikes but it all depends what you are looking for.
@socaladventure23402 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video. I own both(Rally Version) and think they complement each other well. I also agree with your analysis. 😀
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I am looking to pick up a rally just to make some more content with. How do you like it so far?
@socaladventure23402 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad This my experience with the Rally. The stock suspension was terrible and the power was adequate. I weight around 220 without gear and stock suspension was way too under sprung for me but I could still live with it. I upgraded the suspension, went with the YSS front spring and YSS fully adjustable rear, 550 performance ECU, Arrow exhaust and DNA filter it completely transformed the bike . Its now a different machine, the suspension now feels better than the T7. I can now cruise at 75mph while even going up grades, before I could barely keep it at 70 and that was with a tail wind LOL. After the mods I absolutely love the bike. I'm averaging around 70/75 mpg if I ride conservatively and get around 65 if I'm pushing it. I highly recommend doing at least the suspension upgrade if you are a heavier rider. The Rally rides so well now that I'm planning on doing a suspension upgrade to the T7. People might look down upon upgrading a motorcycle but I think upgrades are necessary to suit your riding style. It really improves riding experience. The Rally is a great bike for the money.
@miguelatambucho748 Жыл бұрын
I really really like the comp. I have the DR 650 and a small XR 125 thinking to upgrade it to a 300. Thank you
@Roscocrumz10 ай бұрын
Honda makes the most sense for me .. 2 very diff bikes - that do basically the same thing .. Great video
@michiganmoto76872 жыл бұрын
I am so on the fence between the two bikes and have been for almost a year now. I would eventually like to own both as I feel they are each in their own right a purpose built machine. However, they are characteristically close enough to cross over into the others realm relatively well. As I already own a strictly road oriented bike I am leaning towards the CRF300L first then go from there. Goals. Thank you for taking the time to compare and contrast these bikes. It was well articulated and vastly beneficial. Safe travels my friend! ✌️
@dsergison2 жыл бұрын
that's like being on the fence between buying an f250 or a ranger. both go on the road.. both go on dirt. One is built for pulling 10,000 lb trailer the other for hauling a Christmas tree. If you never really ride hard singletrack , hop across logs, jump. hillclimb, rock garden, etc... then the 700. If you do like to do that stuff then the 300.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I would say get the 300L first and see how you like it. Its a completely different feel going offraod. I wouldn't want anyone to have their first big chuck of offroad riding on the T7.
@hiltonmcconnell25632 жыл бұрын
Unless you have done a lot of off road I would stay away from the T7 very tall and top heavy, I can flat foot a CRF300L but only tip toe the T7 not a good first time off road bike. I have many years of road and off road and would not get the T7 for off road. much better bikes out there, weight wise.
@jeffloucks21202 жыл бұрын
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 Agree with this. The T7 benefits an experienced dirt rider who is comfortable standing a lot off road. Can be ridden like a huge dirt bike at that point keeping some things in mind. It's a lot of momentum and weight to slow down though. Easy to start feeling a little comfortable and roll on the speed. Next thing you know you've tucked the front of your 450 lbs+ bike that lays super flat in some akward position.
@samsonmanna90175 ай бұрын
@dsergison this is what I needed to hear, bc I wasn't sure what people meant by technical riding
@gregpicone6542 жыл бұрын
Such a great video with superbly organized content….thanks for this!! I’m subscribed brother..
@hickokaviation22492 жыл бұрын
Love your content! Thanks for sharing and putting in the work.
@LeeGHThomas2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am coming from riding a crf250r and really want something that’s street legal but can handle the OHV trails I am so fond of. I am very curious about both of these bikes and this video was exactly what I was looking for.
@LeeGHThomas2 жыл бұрын
I guess after finishing the video and some consideration it’s probably smarter for me to buy the 300L rally. I was really leaning towards the T7 initially for no other reason than power/weight and overall aesthetics. My current crf250r makes 42 hp and is almost 100lbs lighter than the 300L, so I wasn’t super keen on buying something heavier AND less powerful. I find my bike to be very satisfying on trails, extremely maneuverable and very fast without being too much of a handful. But after watching this video and reading all of these comments about people selling their T7 because it’s too heavy and not confidence inspiring for anybody not named Pol Tarres, I just feel like it’ll be too much bike for the single track trails I love to ride. I do want to do moto-camping, but really just so I can set up camp and hit the trails multiple days in a row. Ultimately I will just have to sacrifice my ego and settle for a “slower” bike in the name of maintenance intervals (probably my only complaint of the 250r is that it feels like I am constantly having to change the oil) and highway capability with a 6 speed (no speedometer but I imagine my 250r caps out at about 65mph). It is what it is.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I think a 300L rally is a great choice. Its a different style of riding it will definitely be fun and there are some ways to uncork it a bit.
@orionprog2 жыл бұрын
Truly informative as always and down to earth knowledge. Thanks Andrew keep it up man
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I missed youtube to I started up a month or 2 before planned. I was only going to make videos on my riding season.
@CoachSteve4u2 жыл бұрын
Great content Andrew. These are exactly the two bikes I've been considering.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! which one are you leaning towards?
@CoachSteve4u2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad The 300L because my background is motocross and off road. Plus, I'm new to street riding.
@dillonrobinson84682 жыл бұрын
Oh I watched all the way to the end I also have owned both bikes , iv still got my tenere 22 plate for the same reasons as you've said never selling it either
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Well thanks for the input!
@michaelanderson37712 жыл бұрын
Great review Andrew.
@Nojofa2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Thanks for the great info. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It really reached me
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thank you for the support. Im glad it was an enjoyable video for you.
@KorysRides2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. I had a 250L and did everything to it including a sidecar and a turbo, but it just wasn't big enough for long adventures. I got rid of that and my old goldwing and I'm looking at getting a tenere. This is exactly the kind of comparison I needed
@leo831392 жыл бұрын
I own both aswell and am selling the tenere now. Twice the price does not equal twice the bike, it just means a top heavy brick with a choppy throttle.
@eflanagan19212 жыл бұрын
ouch , my sympathies but you should be able to recoup most of price
@rsbharley47662 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. Cheers
@ridingwithmarshall2 жыл бұрын
I watched it all the way through, Andrew. Great content!! Now I want both.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and both are great bikes.
@ChrisUhlik2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the review I was looking for. Excellent! I'm going to buy both of them ;-)
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Haha thats what I did. I mean I know not everyone can do something like that, I actually have a side job that funds my toy habit.
@mikhailglobus67662 жыл бұрын
It’s funny, I almost didn’t watch to the end because i got busy but then i was like, this guy made a good, informative video, and KZbin makes watching to the end matter. And then 1 minute later we get the thanks. No, thank YOU
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Hey man thank you!
@graemethorne49672 жыл бұрын
Great comparison mate Yea I’m enjoying both bikes for the same reasons T7 touring fast roads including good gravel and the 300 L for steep single track with mud Cheers from Chiang Mai N Thailand
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you from Thailand! I know not everyone can do it but it is really nice having bikes for different tasks.
@diziet_sma2 жыл бұрын
loving the in depth reviews!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am testing the wr250r vs the 300L this weekend. I did have a wr250 in the past but to do a complete review I want to do them some by side.
@kurthedgecock63132 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video! Watched it to the end
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you liked it.
@fish0n22 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I put my name on a list to get the 300 rally it never came in ended up with the G310GS nice little bike. but I did add some rally raid parts to help it out for the off road rides, I’m still a Honda fanboy and time will tell if the baby GS will hold up for the off road I have planned for it this summer. I also wave to everyone and made it to the end
@podgebrowne2 жыл бұрын
Very well presented and informative review. I have aCRF300L and a F800GSA, could ride thenGS all day, do some light off reading but there are places I can take the CRF that I would not dare take the GS. Really like the T700, must test ride one soon.
@t3601f2 жыл бұрын
Great editing
@alexv40462 жыл бұрын
Great videos love watching them!!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I am glad I can offer you some entertainment!
@jemirandav2 жыл бұрын
Great video! informative, clear and from my point of view, very accurate.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thanks for the comment. Also thanks for being a subscriber.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Just thank you all around lmao
@jemirandav2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad My brother has a Tenere 700, I have a CRF Clone, a SSR-300, commercialized here in Bolivia in it's original brand, Bosuer. I'm 5.7" and unable to touch the floor with my two feet in the Tenere.
@keshmo122 жыл бұрын
I bought a crf450L. Basically a street legal dirt bike. The 250/300 is a sweet little bike but it's no off road weapon and it feels kinda slow on the road. The 300L is a great beginner adventure bike because you can easily pick it up and it's much cheaper than most other bikes. Also maintenance is way easier and less frequent than my 450L. Good video.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But I will have to say maintenance intervals are literally ten times more frequent on the 450L over the 300L.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to ride one? Do you have the issues with low speed technical stuff? Everyone complains about the flame out and how it cost tons of money to fix the bike how it should run.
@DoctorSquid2 жыл бұрын
Always watching to the end boss. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos and knowledge. I am very excited this year as my 22' Tenere should be here mid march!! I cant wait to do some moto camping.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
That is going to be so fun, where are you located? I know some good places on the east coast.
@DoctorSquid2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad West coast here. Central Washington in the beautiful Pacific Northwest!! But who knows. Maybe I'll make it to your side on the tenere if I'm feeling crazy lol.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, you have so many nice places to camp and ride out there.
@LanceAlot2472 жыл бұрын
Thanks! For a future first time buyer, this video was very helpful.
@LanceAlot2472 жыл бұрын
Honda it is :)
@LanceAlot2472 жыл бұрын
watcehd till the end as well lol !
@LanceAlot2472 жыл бұрын
liked and subbed :)
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and thank you
@bendingthetube2 жыл бұрын
thanx! Good, thorough analysis.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I ton of people asked for this video, and I feel like why not I have both bikes lol.
@TrekTracks742 жыл бұрын
Have the 250l, would still like to pick up the 300l except I didn’t get one of the 15 that have been offered for sale in the USA (your lucky) hard to buy what’s not for sale 😞. Almost bought the Tenere but I mostly ride OBDR great for the camping gear not great for the trails with gear on bike-👍 spot on vid
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
There has been a ton sold in US. Im in a few groups and it seems like a few hundred people have them here.
@clintr12212 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and I am glad you enjoyed it.
@scottanderson41752 жыл бұрын
I agree with you these two bikes definitely are not comparable
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
I mean I never thought to compare them, but everything is comparable. They both have a ton of similarities, and for a lot of people it may be the idea to jump to an adventure bike or stick with a dual sport or for some I wanted to point out this is not the same in many ways and not for a beginner. Either way it seems from all the positive feedback I have got in the first couple hrs that this video will help some people to make a decision on what bike is best for them. I truly believe this video will get more views and view retention then I have number of subs (6000) in a matter for 2 weeks. So maybe I am helping some people out. With the way things are today people cant test drive bikes before they buy them so videos like this are more important.
@bradenw5099 Жыл бұрын
i saw your tenere for sale on facebook, if i had the money I would buy it but unfortunetly I cant bring myself to purchase it, I will most likely go for the crf300l.
@jeffloucks21202 жыл бұрын
The answer is both. ;) Have the T7 and a Husky TE250. I'm not doig hare scrambles anymore and finding time for more aggressive type off roading is limited. I'm thinking the 300L is the ticket. Easy to ride low key bike that you can have fun on the trails with and modify as you see fit. Was thinking about the crf450rl but there's a lot of hassle and cost associated with it by comparison. It's no doubt the superior bike but more difficult to live with in my eyes.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Become a producer for exclusive content, Patreon link: www.patreon.com/MotorcyclesOffoad Amazon Store link: www.amazon.com/shop/EliteGamingHQ Other videos you may enjoy: WR250r vs the Honda CRF300L review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWG5imOti96gl7s T7 full Tenere 700 review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2K1Y4pofNlsfc0 Honda 300L full review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGKwfmCVnq-bmKM Honda 300L VS KLX300: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5aWhaNmmZ1pipI Honda 300L VS DRZ400: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5apqnWDf9CAp7s Honda 300L VS Honda 250L: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ-Upq2FfbCBqc0 Honda 300L VS Yamaha Tenere 700: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpvEgmp6nNWJotE Is the Honda CRF300L really the best Dual sport: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3PYentmqrCBpsU Honda CRF 300L full performance with ECU, Exhaust, and intake: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH6bZqJoic9pa9k BEST dual sport for adventure riding and motocamping: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHmsmoGah5h1kLM
@hiltonmcconnell25632 жыл бұрын
thanks but have already seen most of them, will check out the 2 I am not sure if I have seen,
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 ok well I guess I will keep making more then. Those are just my popular ones.
@hiltonmcconnell25632 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad keep them coming love watching them, do think you can make better choices in some things. but to each his or her own.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 ohh yeah? Explain what you mean?
@SvanbergSimon2 жыл бұрын
I considered both but came to the conclusion that if i got the crf300l i would have to get a streetbike too. I have limited storage so that was a hard option. I also considered what kind of riding i was going to do and the offroad part of it is not advanced enough to motivate against the t7 so i got myself one. The t7 is top heavy and you will notice when you go slow in the terrain. Tip it over and it will be very hard to lift. I recommend you to install a rear rack so you have something to grab on to when lifting it.
@patmansadventures.33122 жыл бұрын
I dropped my T7 in Nemadji state forest with all my gear on it and I could not pick it up by myself.Luckily a guy in a SXS stopped and helped me.
@nantawatkongcharoen4719 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@TheJmlutes262 жыл бұрын
Great video/comparison. You have a new subscriber. Watched to end. I’m a fan of both bikes.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for watching to the end!
@JohnnyFuelMotorcycleAdventures2 жыл бұрын
I watched it all the way to the end. I have a T7. I don’t have the Honda 300 but always respected it.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are 2 different bikes for 2 different tasks.
@jeremiahmarshall61232 жыл бұрын
You make some of the best comparison videos! Thanks for knowledge bud.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this was an awesome comment.
@drkatt1912 жыл бұрын
Really love your video! Just bought a T7 ☺️
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Such a great bike, ATM these are my two favorite bikes to own. What do you plan to do with it? Motocamp, Offroad, Commute, I am curious?
@drkatt1912 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thanks for your reply! I think it will be 50/50 road/offroad. Traded in my KTM 790 adventure and I really hope this bike has better quality haha.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@drkatt191 ohh yeah then I think you will be really happy with the Tenere. I swapped out the tires to Brigstone Battlax and the bike is great.
@drkatt1912 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thanks! Really excited haha. Picking it up next week 😍
@alanw61352 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thanks.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, what bike were you more leaning to get?
@damienpugh17772 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Andrew
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Hey no problem! thank you for watching.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Do you ride?
@damienpugh17772 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad i dont own either these bikes but yes I do ride. I have 1999 Kawasaki 220 bayou, 2005 Kawasaki brute force 750 modded or upgraded and a Chinese pitbike SSR 170
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
@@damienpugh1777 nice! I also have a Bayou 220. Little fun shaft driven bike lol.
@damienpugh17772 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad those things take a licken and keep on ticken
@mikedenton64852 жыл бұрын
Great content, I've been hoping that honda comes out with a african twin 750 or 850. I'm not holding my breath anymore, the T7 is calling my name. For my 55th birthday my plan is to do the TAT, 30 to 40 days solo. I believe that the T7 will be all I need.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing, are you motorcycling or staying in hotels?
@originalkontrol2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed recently, and really enjoy your channel. I had a 250L as my re-intro to Moto’s after a serious accident. Loved that bike, and have thought about picking the 300 up to along with my FJ-09…. Along with a set of sumo wheels/tires! Thanks for the great content.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you for watching and taking the time to leave an awesome comment.
@svpearlsailacapegeorgesail47582 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, unfortunately both bikes aren't available for a few months (at least in Northern California)
@Justforfun-ek7et2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like I need to buy both of these. 300L first then the Tenere. I’ve been having trouble deciding on which 250-300 bike I want now I know I want the 300L and eventually the T7. Thanks for this!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Well I can tell you I am extremely happy and grateful I have both. I also did a comparison of many other bikes like the 250l and the KLX300. I will like the 250L vs the 300L but oddly enough I feel the KLX250 is better over the 250L and the 300L over the KLX300: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ-Upq2FfbCBqc0
@michaelhodgkinson97302 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review and comparison. I curranty own a 250l rally and was wondering about the T7. but I'm not willing to sacrifice the light off road capabilities of the Honda, so i thing when its time for me to upgrade ill go with ether the CRF450RL or KTM/Husky 500. I'm also wanting to get Supermoto wheels and tires for road (which ill have on 70% of the time), aggressive road legal dirt wheel & tire (when i'm planning on going off road). and also a timber-sled kit for winter so i can ride year round on it. i don't thing the T7 wouldn't work well with the timber sled kit as its heavy and wouldn't out weight the extra HP.
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
You are Probably right, Also look into a KTM690 adv or DR650. they are both between the 250L and the T7 on weight.
@monkeymousechicken2 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. Neither one is the fantasy Unicorn adventure bike, but together they are the perfect adventure bike combination. if I had to sell one of mine it would be the T7 as my CRF 300.rally Can still do everything but just slower plus with the Yoshi exhaust on, It makes me feel like a teenage hooligan again lol
@theoriginalEmuman2 жыл бұрын
Sold my T7 and bought the Rally because I was riding alone in the bush mostly. Needed something I could pick up if I was hurt. Miss the power on the black stuff, but happier everywhere else on the Honda! Faster too!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I should have a rally coming soon to test.
@slakk50932 жыл бұрын
Good choice. I'm buying a rally for the same reasons
@ml700732 жыл бұрын
I bought my CRF300L to ride off road because I didn't have my license yet. I figured it would be a good easy upgrade from my CRF250F to learn to ride on road. Not a lot of highways around here so I figured it was prefect. But ever since I did my MSF (one of the instructors had a T7, what a beauty that was!) and got my license, I have been spending a lot more time on the road than off road. Commuting to work and back was the most common use for the bike. I find myself leaning more towards road riding but would not like to sacrifice off road riding. I have been thinking a lot about the T7 lately! And I think since the wait time is so long on these bikes, I might just order one. I figure that by the time it comes in, I will have outgrown my 300L. I am 6'1 and weigh a good 250 lbs so I need to get a good suspension overhaul on the CRF. I think the T7 would prob handle me better lol. Thanks for the informative video! Keep it up sir!
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, they really are 2 completely different machines. Try to keep both!
@michaelvass19702 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Your channel came up on my KZbin feed today and I love it. These are the two bikes I am considering right now to replace my DR650. Think I need both. Or just keep the Suzuki and stop dreaming
@MotorcyclesOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Hey man the DR650 is a cool bike. Unfortunately that is one I never got to ride but it seems like a motorcycle that sits right in the middle of these two. I have seen a few really interesting builds with it, converting it to an adventure bike. I saw a huge tank that acts as ferrings for wind protection, and tons of other cool parts.
@michaelvass19702 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad that’s the same what I was thinking about the DR - that it’s in the middle of these 2. Better at off-road than the T700, but not good as the Honda. The light weight of the Honda appeals to me. Decisions