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@2fastnlight 3 сағат бұрын
You can't get past the fact that those old dualsports have old slow handling chassis no matter the weight or horsepower.
@InternetzVideoz 3 сағат бұрын
Love my wr; will never sell. But it's getting tired. When i rebuild, it will be with a stroker crank, big bore, and tuner (already have a pipe). Should put it in the 290ccs, with the better torque we all want.
@JSpyx 3 сағат бұрын
Hi, I am looking to buy either one of these bikes. But would you say the CRF300L is also good for long distant travelling on flat road surface? (HIghways etc) I live in the Netherlands, we go around 100 to 130km per hour here on the road. you think that would be suitable still for the CRF300L? thank you!
@shawndejong6699 8 сағат бұрын
The main bonus for the 450MT (Ibex 450) is the size and seat height. It allows so many more riders to get in to the on/off road bike market. Most have seat heights in excess of 34/35". 32" and even lower if you drop it on the dog bone is perfect for new and experienced riders who don't want to climb on to the eiffel tower whenever they want to go for a ride.
@skykingnikiski8817 9 сағат бұрын
Great Video; 52 with a high-stress occupation and ride a KLX300, T7, and CRF450R. My scooters keep me going.
@pawelwolski1316 15 сағат бұрын
I got 1100 km on my 450 here in Poland. I ride the Rally 300 in Indonesia (suspension fixed, intake, exhaust, ecu tuned...). I bought the 450 for longer adv rides. This translates to a lot of pavement, just the reality. The 450 is an awesome buy and a good bike (90% or more Japanese quality). One disappointment for my requirements is the very short gearing. It seems everyone is focused on the off-road part (my Rally is for that) and no one mentions the on-road stuff. At 65 mph or so, the engine sits at 7000 rpm (8500 red line). The engine is smooth, it will most likely live there forever, but for me it just doesn't feel good or right. Already installed one tooth up front sprocket, helped some, but now the acceleration is not as brisk or fun. The fueling especially off idle is the typical emissions restricted on/off switch like. For now I have to "ride around that, some extra clutch work...". A good, clean tune is required.
@tigerrider6711 16 сағат бұрын
I’ve spent a lot of time on a dr650. Above a certain pace you really notice the flex in the frame and swingarm, it’s awful on the highway, and at 17k miles mine was smoking noticeably and needed a rebuild. They are great bikes if you can find one for 1500-2000. But people are asking 4-6k for them and need to put away the crack pipe.
@KatharinaEwers 23 сағат бұрын
As a European, I am surprised the DRZ is still sold anywhere in the world. It disappeared from the European market somewhen in the 19th century, because it didn't comply with the Victorian emission standards.
@Elillegal Күн бұрын
You just got a new subscriber brother. Looking forward to get this bike next year. See what 2025 brings. Im good with the T7 for now. Next year, I hope to be uploading videos from the great and neighbor state of Chihuahua.
@harddocs Күн бұрын
DRZ-400x is long over due...
@RayzGarage Күн бұрын
I guess after 24 years of the same bike they feel that they don't have to announce anything. It's just there.
@MotorcyclesOffroad Күн бұрын
@RayzGarage lol, but they announced the DR650 which is older 🤣
@nathankohonen2924 Күн бұрын
commentating just in case it helps
@bazz6670 Күн бұрын
You really need to get a ride on one then you will know the feeling, i have a dr650 and as good as it is the 450mt is so much better in many ways. The twin is magic smooth motor and has enough power. The dr stops revving where the 450 easily revs out. Suspension needs no work just adjust compression and rebound to suit. Ive had mine on plenty of tracks and it good.
@MotorcyclesOffroad Күн бұрын
OK I agree 100% I wouldnt review a bike without getting at least a weekend of seat time on it. Now a twin engine like my Tenere 700 would always out rev a single cylinder, the issue with that tho is offroad you find yourself in low revs on technical situations. Twins are smooth and do rev more but they create power much later in the range. THis is why singles are so popular offroad, you can generate most of your torque at 2000-3000 rpms. But yeah maybe I should give it a try, but this is not a review. I also believe that a lot of early reviews will be a honey moon phase, meaning people love them because they have them. As views we may need to wait until they are on the market for 6mo+ before we get some hard evidence on where the 450MT will fit.
@erinedwards928 Күн бұрын
Thanks so much for this really helpful review!
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho 2 күн бұрын
I think you nailed it in this review! I purchased an XR150L for my daughter's birthday last June. She and I are both okay with the bike, but it's definitely Honda's version of a "Chonda" bike, if that makes any sense. Most of the components are made in China and are assembled in Mexico. You are correct that the relatively awful weight to HP ratio is due to cheap components with the exception perhaps of the 149cc engine which is very underpowered. I wanted something very gentle as my daughter's first bike. The XR150L will NEVER hit 70 mph with my 5'10 190 lbs in it unless I am hooked on the grill or bumper of a semi that didn't see me crawling along at 50 mph pinned. Luckily, my dealer just had a father and son trade-in two almost brand new 2023 XT250s. One has only 150 mi on it. I put a deposit on it immediately, and I'm waiting for them to get it ready to road test. I tried to buy one back in 2020, and a local dealer wanted a little over seven grand out the door! Needless to say, I walked on that deal, but someone else paid the huge mark up. Not really much of a risk buying a used '23 Yamaha XT250 with 150 mi on it and dealer and Yami warrantied available, and I'm sure my daughter and I will both be much happier with it in terms of quality, performance, and resale value. A lot of people are still chasing after the XR150L basically because of the seemingly low price. If I had it to do over again and it wasn't for my daughter, I would have bought something like a Hawk 250 DLX (230cc, 16HP) with digital display, inverted forks, and EFI for $2,000 instead of the Honda XR150L (149cc, 12 HP on its best day) for $3,900 OTD.
@davidjames4771 2 күн бұрын
thank you for your efforts. I can tell you enjoy doing this and I appreciate what you bring to your subscribers. Keep up the great work. I had a super tenor 1200 And also only plan to ride 10% Street. I have a 2023 300 L. I'm gonna set up my tires and gearing same as yours.
@6226superhurricane 2 күн бұрын
Wtf are you on about, the drz has been available in Australia since day 1 and still is. USA gets all the motorcycles, lol you don't get the drz400e (enduro) which is more powerful and lighter than the s (street model) and the e model you got for 5 years wasn't street legal. You don't get all the bikes and you have restrictive laws.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 күн бұрын
I have a drz400e is my garage right now... And a street legal KDX200 2 stroke. Maybe what you're confusing is that the DRZ400e is sold at the dealer as "offroad" then we add a mirror and brake lights to pass on road use. and what im on about is many European and Australia are not aloud to have new production motorcycles without abs.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 күн бұрын
Does Australia get the DR650, I honestly dont know? Did you guys get access to the KLX300 dual sport?
@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 күн бұрын
"While ABS was made mandatory in October 2019, models such as the Suzuki DR650SE had until now escaped the chopping block thanks to an allowance for 'unchanged' models. That allowance, however, is set to expire in October 2021, meaning those models must either be updated or phased out from the Australian market." -bikessales .com
@6226superhurricane Күн бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad drz400e is street legal in australia no registering it in one state to get a title bs, you just buy it ride it away like any other bike. 2 stroke enduro bikes are also legal. usa has always had weird and restrictive laws around road trail bikes that are detrimental to the bikes design eg the drz400s is choked up with emissions garbage and has a metal tank. almost every dual sport/ enduro bike is sold detuned and choked up to the point of barely running in usa dr650 was sold in australia from 1996-2022 because it's not an enduro bike and has pillion pegs it needs abs under the new law. most bikes that aren't sold in australia, are not sold because they can't compete or are unsuitable for australian conditions. what would australians buy a klx300 for? a farm bike
@MotorcyclesOffroad Күн бұрын
@6226superhurricane if in Australia people like the crf300l, which they do because i have seen many channels, they would also like the KLX300. Has nothing to do woth conditions, you really think that overall the conditions are harder in Australia?! In America we have every biome and some of the best and hardest riding in the world. And to the other point if you have everything you want and need then why are so many ausies whingeing about the DR650 that you dont get?
@leanit5756 2 күн бұрын
I got tired of waiting for Suzuki to update the DRZ. I had a couple of them in the last 23 years so know them well. So I bought a '24 KLX300 instead. Honestly I like it better than the archaic DRZ. No regrets.
@joshdoddadbod 2 күн бұрын
The klx is a great bike but could use 50-100 more ccs
@leanit5756 2 күн бұрын
@@joshdoddadbod It'd be almost perfect.
@joshdoddadbod 2 күн бұрын
@@leanit5756 I did the BDSB ECU flash and it really got it close.
@ericweber1969 2 күн бұрын
My prediction is fuel injection, a switchable ABS, and if we’re lucky, revised transmission ratios. I doubt we’ll see a 6th gear. The other items would enable it to stay in the Australian and American markets, and maybe would enable a return to the EU market. I hope so!
@davidmallia628 2 күн бұрын
Never forget the drz400 super moto. This is where there is a real void to fill, to provide something on the lines of the Ducati 698 mono, but lighter, less powerful, less expensive.
@toddsorel-pg4hr 2 күн бұрын
Suzuki really needs to stay in the game, especially in California where you can only ride (basically) emissions compliant dual sport bikes off road now if they are newer than 2021. Perhaps the 400 and 650 have too much overlap and they will introduce a 300 to compete with the Kawasaki - or just partner up with them again for some badge engineering.
@drzrider3440 2 күн бұрын
Rumors only. There is no R&D required. It sells. In fact my buddy just bought a 2023 SM. And prices for used ones are in some cases more than new. I bought my 2011 in 2012 with a few miles on it from a dealer....out the door was only $4200. You still cant find a 2011 for that price. Also extremely reliable with over 54,000 miles and runs better than new.
@StevenSchoolAlchemy 2 күн бұрын
cool bikes
@gailmaplesden7380 3 күн бұрын
The xr 150l has been around for a long time overseas and has a proven track record for its segment. The cost factor is what got me, and the riding comfort is plush with the soft seat and suspension. It's a great commuter as the gas mileage is phenomenal at between 80 to 120 mpg, and that depends on driving conditions. I would have to give it a combined 100 mpg, and that gets you about 250 plus miles between fill ups without using the reserve. Of course it is a honda so dependability is very good.
@nathanduckeorth806 3 күн бұрын
Great video for an old dude,thinking about getting into dual sports
@haneymoto 3 күн бұрын
Just bought a 2024 S model. Chose it over the CRF300L or KLX300 due to the aftermarket support and simplicity of the motorcycle. They have such a cult following that if it is disocntinued the used market will get pricey.
@anthonyperkins6364 3 күн бұрын
If Kawasaki can fuel inject the KLR, Suzuki could do the same with the DR /Drz
@user-dv7hb2sc9m 3 күн бұрын
So you think the whole DRz400 line is going, "Bye bye"..... not just the "SM" model? Interesting as I was thinking about getting one. IF true, I hope it doesn't cause the used prices to jump up.... then I would never get one & if they do close up on this they will always have parts to fix them.... that will remain strong b/c how this bike was grandfathered in & stayed the course. They've changed little so it's all been a money maker for years on end. Sad to hear this. peace
@ComfyDadShoes 3 күн бұрын
Maybe, and that’s a big maybe, they’re making a new variant from the ground up like you mentioned. It’d certainly have my attention.
@joshdoddadbod 2 күн бұрын
Let's cross our fingers that they are doing it and doing it right.
@troybolton4055 3 күн бұрын
There were a lot of bikes not in the "First Wave" press release. Notably the Busa and some of the other small bore street bikes. Maybe it's finally the year, but I wouldn't put much faith in it yet based on this one omission.
@WilkoLV 3 күн бұрын
I own and ride a DRZ400S and have ran it for the past 6 of the 7 years I've owned it. Recently changed the sprockets to a 15 in the front, and 39 in the rear and it REALLY does not need a sixth gear now. Quite a cheap upgrade to, also makes the other gear ratio's longer which makes it much smoother to ride 👌
@toddkurtz1468 3 күн бұрын
Problem with that is first gear is way too tall for tight singletrack trails. I've owned 3 of them and there's no perfect gearing.
@WilkoLV 3 күн бұрын
@@toddkurtz1468 you can play with being on and off the clutch in first and unleash it at your leisure, if your clutch cables are well lubed then it's not so tiring in the wrists. Though the bike is not really built for low speed single track tight trails, more for fire roads and 4×4 safari or jungle roads in my view 👌
@kcomst 2 күн бұрын
I geared my 400S to 15/37. It'll go 100 mph highway (actual speed 93) and 1st gear is fine for BDRs and Colorado jeep roads up to 13,000 feet elevation, which is how I use it. It's too heavy to be a real dirtbike for single track. For that I have a 300 cc 2-stroke.
@take5th 3 күн бұрын
Love my drz. Hoping for a new model, but not optimistic.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I have my fingers crossed.
@malky525 3 күн бұрын
Interesting... Dealer told me last year here in australia that it would disappear along with the 650 in 2025-26 for lack of efi and abs to pass new laws!?!?
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Well that is already true. But in America we still get all walks of bikes without EFI.
@jessecooper6310 3 күн бұрын
For suzuki to sell the 23 and 24 model drz in Australia (I own one) they had to omit the toolkit, and reduce the fuel tank capacity from 10L down to 7L, IOT reduce the weight of the bike, bikes in Australia under a certain weight, and classified as an Enduro do not require ABS or to meet some other standards. Are Australia making rules even more strict from 25?
@BlueThunder69NZ 3 күн бұрын
Sadly my money would be on it being discontinued in the states like it has here in New Zealand if you want a road legal one and many other countries. Happy to be proven wrong with either continuing to sell it to the USA or even better a refreshed new international launch
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Basically this is my same thoughts. Thanks for the comment Blue thunder
@smashy_smasherton 3 күн бұрын
They just haven’t figured out the ‘bold new graphics’ configuration for 2025 yet😅
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Haha well it looks as the DR650 has shared the same as the 2025 model.
@haneymoto 3 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@insatiable_mind 3 күн бұрын
I’m a huge fan of the DR650 and the discontinued DR250s/350s but not the DR-Z. I just don’t see how water cooling is worth the weight. A fuel injected DR350SE would get my attention at 280ish pounds wet.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
I really did love my DR350s, I wished the Z was more like that bike. But if they remake it, it may be.
@toddkurtz1468 3 күн бұрын
I've had 2 dr350s and 3 drz400s. The suspension on the 350s was vastly inferior.
@joek5794 3 күн бұрын
KTM GET IT
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
??
@darylzampese1855 3 күн бұрын
Australia actually gets the E model
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Yes I know, and this is the model I prefer. But I was pretty sure they were already discontinued there based on strict government standards, Not so much in USA we still get all walks of carb and no ABS bikes.
@julius8966 2 күн бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad They're still sold here in Aus. To my knowledge, (at least here in Victoria) any bike registered after Nov 2019 must have ABS and meet emissions. I have a registered 2016 mod so I'm all good. I would assusme this has effected sales here since 2020 as most DRZ buyers want to register their bike. It would then be only a matter of time before they're off our showrooms here to.
@lachlancannard 2 күн бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad the DR650 was discontinued in Aus due to lack of 2 channel ABS. The DRZ meets the criteria of an enduro motorcycle, and so does not require ABS to be sold.
@andyabik 2 күн бұрын
@@lachlancannard Yes I just bought a 2024 DRZ400e in New Zealand. It is getting round the ABS laws as an enduro bike, as you mentioned. I feel like this won't last though, so I'm glad I've got a minter I can keep in the garage forever.
@craigwall8703 3 күн бұрын
If Honda were to made the crf450 Rally I'd own one tomorrow! CRF450 just got updated Chassis & suspension imagine Rally version, what a bike that would be.
@suzyamerica4679 3 күн бұрын
Hint to Honda .. now's the time to sneak in the injected 6-speed CRF350L.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
I just made a video about the CFmoto 450mt and I talked about what people really want is a 450 rally with respectable service intervals and fixed ECU.
@suzyamerica4679 3 күн бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Bingo. Maybe one of the manufacturers will listen. Seems Suzuki pulled the DRZ400 from its 2025 lineup .. maybe it will come back with EFI and a 6th gear? I'd buy that!
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
@@suzyamerica4679 I would love that, I would make it a light ADV bike and with the DRZ reliability I think you could take it across any country. I personally see that much more appealing then the CFmoto 450mt that everyone wants. Plus I really have a sweet spot in my heat for single cylinder thumpers, the DRZ brings so much torque so early that you just cant find that in a twin.
@joshdoddadbod 2 күн бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroadyes that is exactly what I want.
@jimperry4420 3 күн бұрын
I have a Drz and the only thing I wish it had is another gear.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Well that might be whats coming, lets keep our fingers crossed.
@TheParaxore 3 күн бұрын
So if they released a updated version with EFI you wouldn't be interested?
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
6th gear and EFI I think it would really make the DRZ a great bike. I would also require a fuel gage at least.
@jimperry4420 3 күн бұрын
EFI would be fine but I’m cool with a carburetor, just give me a sixth gear .
@jimperry4420 3 күн бұрын
@@MotorcyclesOffroad It has a fuel gauge, the trip meter.
@walterconn5637 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the update
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
No problem
@dadsoutdoors 3 күн бұрын
Just wondering, did you ever complete the TNJT route that you were working on? I think you may have asked for help. I was busy at the time but could help now if you are still working on it.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
I have completed it for the most part. I have not had time to remap it in an ap and turn it into GPX file.
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
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@dustyweasel41 4 күн бұрын
Just got back to Colorado from another Moab trip. This time I brought my ktm 690 with a new set of d-sports on it. Like every test video, they like to wander on loose gravel. However, they absolutely killed it on the sand and sandstone areas of Moab. Love them a lot
@MS-sk7kw 4 күн бұрын
What would would your top 2 dual sport tires for running in pines? I ride mostly there as well. Maybe we can ride together some day. Im also on the Rally
@nickkuhlmam1336 4 күн бұрын
I'd like a smaller bike, but at 320lb I might as well stick with my 320lb KTM 625. same weight with loads more power. might look at a crf250f instead for a more trail orientated bike I could ride on the road every once in a while.
@thepope9794 4 күн бұрын
There are too many damn advertisements to watch
@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 күн бұрын
Is their? KZbin took all the control away from us to set that. All we can say is monetize or no. So I have no control on what they put there in front of you.
@slips1111 4 күн бұрын
Which would you choose if you were 6'4 and 225lbs? (And a novice)
@MotorcyclesOffroad 4 күн бұрын
Drz400.
@jim-hm3eg 5 күн бұрын
I owned a dr500 1984 model when I was 15 it's what I learned on and 20 years later when I was 35 I owned a KTM 690 and 100 percent I would rather ride the Dr 500 I had when I was 15 the engine the way it made its power was more enjoyable to ride both had same top speed the KTM was crap at low rpm unless I were above 3000rpm it wasn't nice at all the Dr 500 it didn't matter it was awesome all the way through the rpm never wanted to stall even at low rpm it was a nice bike to ride hill climbs bush riding and road done it all well and I can't say that about any of the modern day dual sports