2024 KTM 250 Duke First Impressions | MotorInc First S01E20

[@subhayanmishra6327]

I am still surprised how two guys sitting in a studio without any vehicle present physically and doing first impression is more engaging then others doing it with the physical bike and riding on road ❤️

[@motorinc]

😁

[@sagargupta5135]

I think we can visualize the bike as we have seen many first ride review before this podcast.

[@vclimbekar]

That's because these stalwarts together have about half a century of riding experience and not just one kinda bike but generations of bikes. They Ride, They Test, Analyze and then talk fearlessly.. thats what sets them apart. ..

[@adityamurthy23]

I guess we already know what the bike looks like. We want important questions answered on how it rides like. That's why we come here

[@abhishekwellage215]

Because no annoying music

[@sarathsekar]

I think Bajaj gained much more expertise with their KTM partnership than what TVS got with their BMW one.

[@motorinc]

It certainly appears to be the case, Sarath!

[@kausarde4974]

Because bajaj bought half of ktm. It wasnt a normal partnership like bmw, triumph or HD

[@Vikrum_]

Aaand they launched nothing under the Bajaj name

[@muhammadfaheem3746]

​@@Vikrum_the NS200, RS200 and Dominar 400 all used tech they got from the KTM partnership

[@Vikrum_]

@@muhammadfaheem3746 ancient models, no updation

[@gaureeshhegde7865]

A 40 minute conversation on MotorInc is worth more than a 100 vlog videos 💯 Loved how you guys acknowledged our requests and gave us an overview of the comparison of similar bikes. Question : Does TVS not giving Shumi an RTR for testing indicate that they are low on confidence? Or is it just a logistics issue? Because the TRUE colours of a product are often revealed on MotorInc

[@motorinc]

Thanks Gaureesh!

[@adithyanarayanr]

As a shy owner of the CB300R, my chest swells with pride seeing that the machine managed to find at least a mention in one of the comparisons. That alone is an achievement in my books after so many years of the machine being in production. But as Shumia said, it'd be great to see these two have a detailed sit-down about the bike and break down the pros and cons of the bike and what Honda got right and wrong with its OG 'unicorn', that is the CB300R.

[@aashayraut]

Planning to buy one any thoughts ??

[@Future.is.crisis]

Bro .. cb is soo peppy ... the acc i test rode it 2 to 3 days ago.. the bigwing guy was soo good but on a heavier build .. he was sitting as Pelion.. with him too the bike just wooshh away ...

[@spcomics7006]

U don't need anyone's validation to like your motorcycle

[@AN-8282]

Honda will not provide them with a test bike Simple

[@avinashmuraleedhar]

Karthi sir summarised it 10/10 for me 1) I noticed him being more firm on his opinion and made it exactly clear what his taste and expectation of motorcycle riding experience ought to be..which felt much better than some of the old reviews where I personally felt he was ready to give up when an opposing or different opinion is suggested 2)I would also like to thank shumi sir for comparing all competitors in different departments like performance to finish quality etc and what kind of expectations to be set towards each of them. 3)I have to appreciate how diffrence in opinion is communicated well while acknowledging each other as in most workplaces I had been,ego played bigtime between makes it unbearable for anyone involved

[@motorinc]

Thanks so much Avinash! Appreciate the feedback.

[@kalabhairavar1981]

Brother , the reason because , they are not hybrid type , they are single type combustion engines, were they don’t need to be win win reviews or compromising conclusion to stop tears of existing owners 💪🏽

[@avinashmuraleedhar]

What I meant in firm opinion is that for most of us watchers,reviews paint an idea of what to expect for the money we pay,which most of us had to earn.so when a reviewer is firm on their opinion,it helps the viewer much better as we are taking the information at mercy of reviewer...,which if they cant stick to when introduced to different facts and ideas...how could we possibly trust their opinions for our purchase? In case of this video I felt the reviewers agree on performance charecter but disagree on their personal taste in a different use case senario,which I think 99%of us won't be doing so its rather an intresting information , than one affecting our purchase or something much as important...😊 {If there was a big disparity in setting performance expectations by the reviewers...it might get tough for us viewers}

[@maybevcouldbe]

Broo the second point 😂 when did they compare? He said we haven't ridden the bikes.

[@avinashmuraleedhar]

@@maybevcouldbe that's what u think brother?i felt except RTR/honda,there was nothing much left out...even then, they still tried best to give picture(figuratively)I Suppose

[@DipjoyChakraborty]

What a Sunday morning it is .... As always its beautiful hearing you both just uplift the mood. Thank you for most beautiful discussion in youtube ❤

[@motorinc]

Have an awesome Sunday! And, thanks!

[@anurag5836]

😊😊q😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊11❤❤❤❤

[@HarikrishnandIceman]

A month back I was looking at used standard bullet 500s and had almost finalised on one when I chanced upon a conversation where Karthik was mentioning the niggles with the older models and later one where Shumi was talking about how much better the j series was. Having owned a 2009 TBTS for fifteen years and having put over 2 lakh kms on it I was sold on the idea of the new standard. Then as luck would have it, as I was finalising on the standard variant of the new standard 350 I saw a short of Shumi promoting the v strom 250 sx. I went for a test drive out of morbid curiosity. I might probably be the only person to say this but it was love at first drive. So now I sit impatiently waiting for the number plates of my suzuki to come so that I can drive it out of the showroom, no fuzz, just a full tank of fuel and nothing added onto it. Thanks guys, for helping me make a great call. Love you guys.

[@motorinc]

Oooh! Congratulations Hari! Do let us know how the experience with the VSX goes!

[@sidharthsnair911]

Loved this Episode. Man it"s Fun and Informative at the same time. Especially I loved their Arguement🤣🤣. For me my Favourite Motorinc Videos go by this order 1. Motorinc Garage Video on Shumi's KTM 390 Duke. 2. Motorinc First on KTM 250 Duke 3. This Connect on Tyres........ and so goes the list. I have two request for videos 1. More Motorinc Garage videos especially on Shumi's Multi, Tuono and Karthikeya's Busa. 2. A Technical segment like Simplified in PD.

[@motorinc]

Thanks Sid! Suggestions noted and we're happy to say that it's being worked on!

[@RicquilaSunset]

Ohh yes, we definitely need more motorinc garage videos ❤

[@akaal13]

Techinal Segments are really needed, I loved the Simplified series!!

[@sidharthsnair911]

Yeah the Simplified series did by Shumi was Amazing.

[@ekalavyaaramachandran1941]

I clean by bike on sunday mornings after waking up and during the cleaning i always listen to one of the motor inc discussions. Listening to motorinc is slowly becoming a lifestyle for me. And the long discussions actually works well for me.

[@motorinc]

Oh man! Thanks so much for sharing that with us!

[@_Adv8_]

It seemed like you two were having a lot more fun chatting about in this ep. More interactions that allowed us to see the sort of friendly banter that you guys have. Really nice video. It's always nice to see two very experienced riders talk about bikes that should (I think) normally feel underpowered to them, like they're kids just having watched Dhoom movies or something.

[@motorinc]

Thanks ADV8!

[@_Adv8_]

@@motorinc it makes the viewers feel closer and a part of the experience

[@jayt2387]

I like the friendly banter too. It makes for fun viewing. From a distance only though. Haha.

[@Swagat_kP]

39:30- Yes like Shumi said, we want both of their thoughts about HONDA Bikes spread over both their normal & bigwing showrooms.. Please have a conversation, video, podcast anything.. & Not only for Honda, for every other bike manufacturing company too.. We want to know your thoughts on where the manufacturers stand & how they fair as of 2024...

[@captainspeirs1410]

Yes exactly.

[@motorinc]

Suggested noted Swagat! Thanks!

[@dhruvray8841]

Shumi is the face of Indian motorcycle patriotism. He always calls the Japanese out over their treatment of our riders and market 😂

[@VishnuVamanan]

😅The problem is when shumi explain about how he enjoys KTM BIKES WOULD like to own one thats the way he details it like food vloggers explain about the food that they are having he explaines each and every minute flavours ❤thats what makes this video magical . Thank you 🙏🏻 Karthikeya my brother your summary will get 8 out of 10 😊

[@kartikjayan]

Hey Shumi and Kartikeya, I am an absolute fan of this format. Never thought that a conversation between two people could be so engaging in a video format. I may be making a bold statement, but MotorInc has created something that could give an existential crisis to podcasts. The knowledge and experience that you both have just makes this format more enjoyable. Be it 30 minutes or over an hour, I am genuinely excited to watch the videos you come up with. And, to build on that point, I would suggest a new format, where you just discuss the best ways to ride a bike (in terms of the best rev range the best gearing, etc). I have always learned how to milk the most out of a bike by riding it time and again, but listening to you makes me feel that if this information is made available, it will help many inexperienced riders enjoy their purchase much more and much faster.

[@motorinc]

Great suggestion! Thanks Kartik!

[@nikhilmuskur7722]

Completely agree, I was a complete noob when I bought my first bike and couldn't extract the full performance for so many years. Only after I started watching more info videos on bikes I got know how to extract the full potential of my bike and that moment felt like nirvana. So an episode of educating new riders on how to optimally ride their bikes will be such a treat

[@rohandas252]

Great video. But I am interested in the unfinished talk about the CB300R. Would you mind reviewing that?

[@motorinc]

We don't mind. But Honda's been very stingy with their test bikes so far 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@KurianJohnMusic]

@motorinc I was just wondering if by any chance you confused the 300R with the 300F. I personally have the 300F and I'm very happy with it having done almost 22k km in 8.5 months, but I do know that there have been a lot of reviews where they mention it as a dull bike. But almost every review I've seen mentions that the 300R is an absolute pocket rocket. So would be great if you can just clarify that

[@singhshakti1980]

Better explained than the Austrian guys... Hell yeah 👍👍 What a comprehensive practical review. Well done @motorinc 👍

[@motorinc]

Thank you!

[@kalabhairavar1981]

Because Shumi and karthik is blend of Journalism/Motorism/DNA expresses the spontaneous delivery of the Facts . Because as shumi has the badge on his shirt , Speaking truth is the Most Powerful and Easy enough 🤝

[@shyamsundar-th2ev]

My friend had retrofitted his duke250(older model) with the 390s tft it works just fine

[@Nischal-hb9bo]

@@shyamsundar-th2ev so he put old 390s console in the new 250?

[@pawanvinjamuri5219]

Should i go for vitpilen 250 or duke 250. Does vitpilen 250 feel like the duke 250s power ? For me saving money would be nice. Liked both the bikes.

[@mathewcheruvathoor4693]

The CBR250R was without faults. Without Faults. And, I got it really early; May 2011. Again, No Faults. Been riding for 35 years, started on the Yezdi 250 CL - II. I have a Bonneville A3 now, got it in 2015, and a really old Apache 180, 2009. Both are riding good. Tempted by the Duke 250, now. And, that was a Top Notch presentation; thank you. 🙏🏼

[@motorinc]

Thank you @mathewcheruvathoor4693!

[@rupambanerjee2066]

How is it 35 years if u bought it in 2011

[@nitinnaidu8296]

Hi as you adviced that dont buy the bike from 1st batch wait till june. But lets say i have to get bike by the end of this month either 250 duke or vitpilen 250 so should i wait more or is it fine to buy one now

[@singhshakti1980]

Whoa @Shumi aka Guruji... That "Honda" truth was brutal, but bang on... A lot of coulda woulda shoulda surrounding the Honda products still.. It's like what Singhee Sahab said, they enter the segment unsure what to deliver and whom to compete...

[@motorinc]

🫡

[@MikBan]

Thank you guys for the video.. I love my Duke 250 of 2021. The calm nature saved me when I was transitioning from my Gixxer SF. Right now its like she reads my mind on the road and we are in sync all the time. The newer ones are even better it seems and Bravo to KTM for that..

[@shivvashishthabhargava4600]

Masterpiece from Mattighofen: Owner of the last available batch. May 2023 KTM 250 Duke, Ebony Black. 1. Amazing suspension. 10/10 Superb would be an understatement. 2. Excellent ABS. 3. Beautiful exhaust note. Great and very reliable engine and exhaust. Brilliant electronics. 4. Top notch build quality. You see it in person and you will be blown away! (if it's a clean bike) 5. The 250 is such an amazing engine for the duality it offers. It can be super snappy / agile or very relaxed! A gem of an engine. Refined for sure. It is both a cruiser and a sports bike! 6. Great brakes. The front brake is brilliant. 9.5/10 (better pads can help!) AMAZING!

[@FactsSpeakerr]

42 to 55 kmpl on highway? are those figures even true?

[@arnabchakrabortyofficial]

With KTM, Triumph and others introducing powerful and lightweight bikes. Is it a wise choice to ditch the heavier RE’s for long rides? Do advice please.

[@motorinc]

Hey Arnab, both kinds of bikes have distinctly different feel and pros/cons. We'd suggest you get a test ride to get a sense of the difference in flavour and see if it suits your taste/preference

[@DPD08]

This happens everytime! I'm like Karthikeya, I know that Shumi is right but still wanna be excited for Linear (Shumi Graph) Bikes which can do anything (dynamic)😊 when I demand.

[@motorinc]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@ssc1348]

@13:48 you might wanna recheck the variables. From what Shumi is saying, looks like it should be output vs effort, not the other way.

[@sagnikghosh396]

Man I never listened my class that attentively 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@athulkrishnakb715]

Between the updated duke 250,cb300r and rtr310 which one would be a better pick?

[@deepaksrinivasmondal]

I experienced one of my longest rides in Meghalaya on a Duke 250, and absolutely fell in love with it. The one little grouse back then was the LCD unit from the Duke 200 (Orange colored). It feels bizarre that even to this day Bajaj and KTN take the call to not give the best Duke the best screen. I would happily pay a premium for the color TFT. It is not a feature why anyone would jump from the 250 to the 390 (since they are quite different in character and capability) but it would make a big difference to the rider who is looking at it every single day!

[@techyrh7780]

Neatly done as usual, I don't know why youtube doesn't recommend this on my homepage neither was I able to find the video in the channel nor the subscription part. Now these are the small requests that I have, 1. What kind of bikes should the new riders look for, I myself haven't owned any bikes but have ridden my brother's pulsar 220f and ns200, my friends re hunter and meteor, tvs raider and splendor of course, but the confusion is what type of rider am I is still a question, I liked all bikes I've ridden, but still it's always a question, so it would be better if u guys can give an idea like buy something ride for somedays figure out change the bike😂 2. How to test ride, like what are the things we have to try while test riding the bike! It is simple but it is the key enabler of buying a bike, so what are all the aspects we should look for? [ Oh yeah forgot to add, these summary ,keep them coming]

[@motorinc]

Solved!

[@kp6425v]

Whats the more comfortable highway cruiser between the d250 and the speed 400 between 100-120kmph? Speeds beyond that are not that important and the primary use for the bike would be daily commute of around 50km on narrow b and village roads with little traffic

[@ravurikiran6458]

It always gives a smile when I'm unable to put into words the sense of what the bike gives me but then Shumi comes into play and says this happened because of this, this feels like this because of this and it perfectly matches with what I have experienced when I ride a certain bike is amazing. the little things like the wheelbase is so short and the front tire is right underneath you and it feels quick(this is exactly what I felt when I rode the old Duke 250 but couldn't put it into words for how quick it can steer) This happens to me with most of the bikes I have ridden and the sense of what it means when Shumi puts it in words. In this aspect I would love to see ur experiences and thoughts on every manufacturer (got curious when u said to leave a comment for Honda).

[@motorinc]

Glad to have you on the same page, RK!

[@aamansarkar2261]

Yes the color tft of the duke 390 gen 3 will fit in the duke 250 gen 3 seems lessly...

[@amanalishaikh2964]

Really appreciate your effort @motorinc for this review👍, but I would really like you to compare CB300r vs 250 Duke, as they are nearly the same price and specs😅

[@motorinc]

Once we get a test bike...

[@akshaypawar2252]

Hello sir when it will be a safe purchase is it is safe to buy right now because I am investing my whole savings in this bike please reply sir ❤

[@soorajnair1429]

I guess Shumi was about to talk about the mileage but then the conversation moved to another topic. So what do you think how much would be the mileage and range with the increased tank capacity?? Anyhow, I feel you guys covered everything especially for the confusion between who should be looking to get a 250 or 390. I have been thinking of upgrading from a Gixxer SF 2015 model for quite sometime, so I am always confused between a 250 and 390 but this video made it very clear for me now. Thank you.

[@angshudasgupta4526]

Mileage depends on how you ride it. I get 27 or so from my 2019 250. I know people who get 33. Basically I can’t help revving it, so the mileage suffers.

[@prashasakpanda3754]

It is always advisable to get a test ride of both the bikes. They are different in character and the one which resonates with you more, consider that as final.

[@mohithellscream]

Okay, i just found this channel, always been a fan of shumi regarding everything that riding encapsulates, and im so happy that yall are making such detailed videos on motorcycles, unlike our everyday cars, our interaction with motorcycles are far more intricate and a millimeter here or there might make a huge difference in how you experience a motorcycle and only an experienced rider like shumi who lives and breathes motorcycles can do it this well. So, among the sea of motovloggers and big media reviews (which feel so incomprehensive in thier rundown), this will be my only goto channel from now on. I dont even need to be in the market for a machine, how yall break it down in fun enough to watch. So Thank you guys, really appreciate it. TOP CONTENT.

[@jaswanths4326]

Waiting to see what Husqvarna 250s can do with this chassis and engine. The current Vitpilen is a Gem (Much needed RC250 in disguise IMO) . I am Trying to get the 390's suspension to fit in on the Vitplen TOO XD.

[@motorinc]

♥️🤞🏽

[@huayrarevo]

Svarpilen 250 owner 25,000 km done in 3 years Brakes upgraded Lots of weight here and there reduced Michelin road 5 installed Vitpilen clipons installed I too am looking for the new 390’s suspension upgrade. I also did some digging to get even better stopping performance. Shall we connect and share notes ?

[@saurabhawasthi7898]

Hey Shumi What is the difference between SOHC engine and DOHC engine with respect to performance? No theory please I know it. But don't know how it translates to performance.

[@motorinc]

It doesn't make a big difference in the context of the 250 Duke. It's always had a reasonable even spread of performance and it still does.

[@rishikesh_m]

Planning to buy Duke 250 & was waiting for exactly this video. 😁 It's been a wonderful conversation, all of my questions have been answered especially Shumi's advice don't be in hurry & until 1st batch is cleared. Thanks a lot.....! ❤

[@motorinc]

Thanks for waiting! And all the best!

[@maheshwarreddy4202]

Go For Husqvarna 250. The pillion seat is Comfortable in it.

[@ManuNackathaya]

Time flies while listening to you folks talk about bikes! Being an RE owner for close to a decade, I finally let it go, because it just didn't make sense anymore in terms of reliability, performance and maintenance. I have had my eyes on 250 ADV for a year now. This upgrade to the Duke 250 looks great. Any chance the upgrades will be transferred to 250 ADV as well?

[@wilsonmpaul]

I think you guys should defintely get some time on the cb300r. It is a hoot. It is a very light bike, refined throughout the rev range. Properly quick, darts through traffic. Compact surprise.

[@shashankasaikia4136]

Duke 250 or Cb300R ? What's your pick n why ??

[@motorinc]

Please see the time-stamps. We've discussed it in this video!

[@f1andcarcontent]

take the triumph 400 than a duke 250 its about the same cost and the triumph is just smoother

[@sanjayyethipathi]

some people may prefer handling and a modern look than power

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing your perspective!

[@saurav.bishtt]

​@@sanjayyethipathi❤

[@Shreejansurya98]

Apples and Oranges, Retro vs Modern, Relaxed Ergonomics vs Sporty. I can go on and on and on 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@VeganSanatani]

​@@Shreejansurya98250 is not that sporty.

[@helios9663]

Would Duke 250 be a great first bike for someone who's ridden a activa for 7 years and mostly been a manual car driver ( Ertiga) ? Do you think going for a 390 would be better due to the car experience ?

[@akaal13]

THANKS GUYS!! IT WAS GREAT!! (capitalization so that Shumi can read the comment.😜) . Kartikey summarized the bike pretty well, can't really point anything out. Solid Job!👍9/10 (Even the best of us have room for improvement.) . And we desperately need a discussion on the Honda situation in the CB 350 First. Great Work Everyone.👍

[@akaal13]

Ques.1 What is your take on the 250 ADV? Or the whole ADV lineup from KTM? Can't help but wonder, that something feels off about those. Comments on that.

[@motorinc]

Hey! Please do see the MotorInc First on the KTM 390 Adventure (might be Ep 01). We did discuss in detail our worries and the opportunity for the KTM Adventure line in that. Glad you enjoyed this episode Akaal!

[@yohanjacob7509]

Hi..the new 250 duke has come with tft display and Drls etc….looks like Bajaj is listening well..I’m considering the dominar 400, triump 400x, and duke 250..what do you suggest..90% city with pillion..advs too big for city commute

[@p.r.i.t.o.m.n.a.n.d.y]

This podcast is so damn perfect that I am crystal clear that this is the bike I am looking for. I recently rented the Pulsar N160 and rode it for almost 400 kms and loved the torque and its city friendliness so much that I was planning to get the N250. But after seeing this podcast, I think this KTM matches more to what I want. My life would be miserable if I got this as it is way above my budget but I believe it will be worth the misery. Will take a test ride sometime next year.

[@sivasankarpnair]

Please please please do the ADV 250 (if and when the new iteration comes along).

[@candycane55]

Duke 250 vs Apache 310rtr would be an interesting comparison

[@motorinc]

💯

[@NripanNath]

Am I seeing official merch on Shumi?

[@belch1693]

Would love to see a detailed comparison between himalayan 450 and adv 390 from you guys 😊

[@motorinc]

Can do!

[@heleuheleu]

@@motorinc But shouldnt we wait for the next gen 390 adv? coz it will be much more like the bigger bros

[@mansih123barodiya]

@Motorinc: Hi Shumi, I listened you to wait for more than 8 months now for good batch of ( speed 400, D250 ) I have taken test ride of guerrilla but that Bike become monster all of sudden in second gear .. I wanted bike for my office commutes which is 36 km in total. Now KTM has launched Ebony Black D250 with all that fetaures we wanted and also Triumph also updated speed 400 but seat height has gone up and I tested that too.. I am short rider with just 5.6 So pls suggest me b/w D250 and S400 , which one I should prefer? I am currently owning unicorn.

[@ShuvamPal_]

Proud to be a duke 250 gen 3 owner. Thanks Shumi sir to make me even prouder.

[@motorinc]

👍🏽

[@muhammadfaheem3746]

Which colour did u buy

[@ShuvamPal_]

@@muhammadfaheem3746 the orange and blue colour.....with black rims

[@srinivas345]

Which one is a better choice btw Duke 200 and 250 ?? Low end power is the priority (Coming from Hero 200R)

[@jithusasikumar3930]

A twelve minute review video is getting bore nowadays. But you two guys are delivering a full worth 40 minute video which I can't even skip a bit 😂❤ btw make a video on the Apache RTR 310 please.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for being with us!

[@MrinmoyDas-qm6kj]

Today i have ridden a motorcycle for the first time.. A glamour 125. But i really want to buy a duke 250 as my first learners bike.. Is it a good idea?

[@devanshmadaan]

if you can afford one and you like to buy

[@shashankrawat4437]

1:00 everyone in KTM R&D is more or less Racist ~ Shumi

[@motorinc]

🤣 No that's not what we said

[@SridharNag]

10:30 onwards, just watch for a min, see how much shumi enjoys this bike.. !!! thats true feeling of how the bike feels. and see how much he enjoys telling us about this riding experience.

[@rajnarwade5231]

Which is best(fun to ride, faster acceleration, better in corners) bike duke 200 or duke 250 for buying plz answer ?

[@rajnarwade5231]

Even rc 200 also includes 😅 or may be fairing bike you would suggest to buy ?

[@uma8265]

I am also looking for this answer

[@FORESTSPY]

Waiting for your detailed comparison and reviews of RE classic 350 vs hondCB 350 ..

[@SlipperrClutch]

Me too

[@prashantambhore5775]

24:00 absolutely agree with shumi and kartik and that is what i was thinking all about ever since i saw 250 and 390. Strongly feel 390’s tank shrouds are unnecessarily elongated the clean compact and sorted design of the 250 is what captivate me. 390’s engine and 250’s body would work right for me.

[@motorinc]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@S.I.M.PforSPEED]

@motorinc I don't know if you guys get this a lot... But please do a long conversation about the Honda CB300R. Its always intrigued me as a product and now that Honda has adjusted its pricing, it appears to be probably the best naked motorcycle for me and probably the best Honda product in India right now. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this machine and I'm sure I'm not alone.

[@pawanjenu]

How will I know, if Duke 250 has stabilized now? I mean- my dealer might sell me an older batch’s bike? Anyway to track if from now on the batches are the most stable ? I know waiting till July is what you recommend, But how to know that batch from now will have most stable things?

[@motorinc]

There's no accurate way to tell, Pawan, which is why waiting longer is the safest bet

[@hrishikeshparab1236]

Just took a visit to ktm showroom to check out Duke 250 but left also impressed by the Vitpilen 250. What would be the better bike in terms of comfort and just take anywhere everyday use?

[@motorinc]

Comfort Duke. Take anywhere, either.

[@hrishikeshparab1236]

@@motorincthanks for the reply!

[@sauravdeb7412]

Hi Shumi. Hope you're well, been loving your new look and this amazing new channel. I'm facing a very odd issue with my 2022 Duke 250 that no matter what SC I'm taking it to, is unable to figure it out. I'm posting this in this comments section here, hoping to hear your expert opinion on my problem. I was staying in Hyderabad at the time of purchase(2022), and the 250 was a beast, both in the city and on the highways on long rides. Last year, I moved to Bengaluru and that was the beginning of my bad experiences on the Duke in terms of ride quality. An insurmountable amount of potholes, speed breakers and bad roads in general exposed the characteristics of this motorcycle that I don't enjoy, at all. The ride is way too bumpy, which I am ready to accept given the not so soft suspension on the Duke, but with every bump something in the bike rattles. I've been to the KTM service countless times with this issue, all them saying its the chain that gets loose and hits the chain guard on every bump, hence the rattling sound. Even with a tight chain, it doesn't go away and neither I nor the service folks have been able to exactly figure it out. Adding to it the low ground clearance, its a headache on Bengaluru roads. Now I'm contemplating my options here. I love the engine on this beast, its so fun to just rip it open on the highway, but practically the ride experience is borderline awful for my preference. Is there any way I can fix it? Is there something that I'm missing? Will changing the tyres or the suspension solve the overall bad ride quality issue here and will it be worth? I'm ready to live with the low ground clearance in that case. Or do I sell it off to someone who'd actually enjoy it and get an ADV?

[@motorinc]

Just go to our friends at Indimotard near Hoodi Circle and have them take a look first?

[@bhabeshchanda]

Love your every conversation, Please review 🌟Husqvarna Vitpilen 250.🔥

[@seekerm8349]

Which is more fun to ride, rev happy duke 200 or a bit calmer and linear duke 250?

[@nomadicinside]

Thanks @motorinc for this video. Karti's summary gets a 10/10, it was spot on. I think it's the more civilized, gentlemanly one out of the trio till you poke it and when you do so, it will roll up its sleeves and will get to business real quick. I assume the adventure variant is around the corner, which means the present changes would make it an even better option for the price it's asking. Cheers!

[@gamer_asurn1448]

Do i need a 390 or 250 beginer 🔥

[@jennisonr]

Can you do a video for Vitpilen 250??

[@debasishachary2834]

Just a question regarding the "output vs effort" graph; aren't the axis parameters supposed to be reversed i.e. the x-axis denoting the "effort" and the y-axis denoting the "output" and not the other way around? Correct me if I am wrong. P.S. An appreciator since the inception of this channel.

[@motorinc]

Hey Debasis! It doesn't matter really. That graph and its implications don't really change if you switch axes

[@shrinivasgosavi4370]

V-strom 250 Vs. Duke 250. Can we have insights on touring ability and experience of these?

[@harsh.macbeth]

Whats better the adventure 250 or duke 250 for occasional touring?

[@gagachang.]

CB300R, Speed 400, Apache RTR 310, Duke 250. Your choice for city ride; rate them out of 10.

[@motorinc]

CB - Not tested 310 - Not Tested 400 - 9/10 250 - 8.5/10

[@captainspeirs1410]

Please test cb300r and review it. Thanks in advance.

[@gagachang.]

@@motorinc grrr seriously, what are you guys waiting for ? 😅 I like sam manekshaw but I waited for your review videos more eagerly than the movie. Many good bike releases in India, such exciting times and you guys are like 'yet to test' 'not tested' . Those 2 are such awesome bikes. C'monn get more excited!! Overwork for few days, can chill later. (I know easy for me to say, but you guys will have your reasons😁)

[@gagachang.]

@@motorinc thank you for your quick response :)

[@shankar726851]

@@motorinc When can we expect RTR 310 Openion Video...?

[@rahuldevsharma1688]

I don't have money to buy right now and am still watching anything and everything as much as possible on KTM 250 and watched this episode and what a wholesome view. I hope I will wait for some batches to pass.

[@AakashGoyal-b6l]

Is it a good time now to purchase the bike now? On your say to go for a second batch or third batch

[@swamynaiduchikkam]

What is your opinion on triumph speed 400 compared to Duke 250

[@varun1036]

Can we expect this analysis from you guys for the CB300R, R3, MT03 and RS457? Is it too much to ask?🥹

[@motorinc]

Not at all! Let's see what we can do!

[@varun1036]

​@@motorinceagerly waiting

[@eightyfps]

Now that Vitpilen 250 is also out. We still gotta wait till May or June for second batch? Or even more?

[@sunilbalan4098]

Hey guys, I have just 3 basic questions if I may from riding in Gurgaon POV... 1. Would the 250 adv tyres make any difference to the handling, grip, etc. 2. Not a fan of under belly exhaust.. especially riding out in monsoon or 1 foot of water. 3. How does it compare to the RTR310. Would appreciate your insights.. I am planning to pick the 250

[@reubenlaitthma1048]

Hey guys... On the topic of waiting a couple of months to buy a bike that's just been released. The duke 250 recieved an update.. should I wait a while or is it alright to get it now?

[@PakyaPatil-l7y]

looking to buy a 250+ cc bike. can you please review the suzuki 250. the vstrom that i test r ode had rough engine, hard gear shifts and a lot of vibrations. my friend owns a 250sf. even his bike has hard gear shifts. and which would you recommend between duke 250 and speed t4

[@Yuvii.rathore.6]

Is there anything coming about Aprilia 457 ?

[@motorinc]

Once we ride it, for sure!

[@MohdSameer-jw3ti]

I own a 2021 duke250, and completely agree with the linear delivery for a guy that rode the mini pulsar for 10yrs, even d250 is scary, but it does amazing in city rides where I happily tractor on higher gears at lower speed, it is happy above 3500rpm at any gear, and on highways easy 6500rpm shows 80-90kmph.. I do plan to take it to track someday and see how it feels.. Only 1 question - what is the top speed of gen2, I did manage about 142kmph but I am 85kgs and feel a lighter ride can push it to 150 and how different is it in gen3?

[@cereal_dispenser]

And that's where I am considering the vitpilen 250 tho it doesn't have the gizmos it's certainly still na 250 underneath and the price is much cheaper than the 250 duke

[@abhishekdasgupta1640]

Shumi plz review the Honda CB300R BS6 phase 2. And keeping honda's engine reliability & refinement in mind would you recommend Honda CB300R over TVS apache rtr 310??

[@motorinc]

Waiting for test bikes, Abhishek!

[@yogeeswarpal]

Kindly change the concave, and convex. It is wrongly represented in the graph. Sorry for nit picking.

[@thangarajj]

How are the headlights? In semi rural areas that is rather critical with very few streetlights etc. Also are the headlights fit for touring?

[@sanjeevdm]

I had the 1st gen Duke 390. Regarding heat radiation, I never cared - it was expected. Plus, Bajaj did a field change, where the radiator fan reversed direction when the bike was below a certain speed. Pretty effective technique.....not sure if the new Dukes use this technique.

[@siddhuanidiot2887]

Duke 250 or Honda CB 300R...Which is Good one to buy..Suggest

[@motorinc]

Hey Sid! We haven't tested the CB300R so we cannot offer you an opinion on the Honda

[@shubhampatil5251]

Which is better bike for pillion comfort & still fun to ride in this price segment?

[@vinayaksrivastav2328]

Please do an episode for the vitpilen 250 2024 🙏🏼

[@varanjitsingh9663]

I had gixxer 250 sf as my first bike and I think it provided me everything i needed to grasp the basics of motorcycling well.

[@aayushashok549]

Hi Shumi! Any recommendations for a newbie 6'4 rider looking for his first bike? I have prebooked the himalayan but the delivery date seems to be around February. Any good alternatives except the Adv390s for a newcomer?

[@HermeticAscetic22]

Nice video! Very informative. I'm looking to purchase my first bike soon, and torn among this, Vitpilen 250 (gravitating most toward Husky) and Triumph Speed 400. Which one would you guys recommend?

[@jayt2387]

As others have said in this thread and elsewhere, the banter, really the provocativeness of Shumi combined with the ease of Karthi, is what makes their videos work. Every creator provides knowledge. They provide information with an obnoxious aggressive personality that plays well on KZbin. You need an aggressor and you need a calming agent. That's why people like me from a distance love watching them.

[@kuldeepSingh-to5dr]

I don't know if you guys have noticed this or not in new duke 390s, if you haven't, please do try, when I rode duke 390 yesterday, I did not feel anything different with the vibration compared to old generation contrast to what I felt when tested a month back. maybe there is better refinement with each service or something, can't say. and my friend had the same opinion, So it is just not me, however we tested with same bike.

[@harshavardhan7054]

How about riding in traffic conditions, do we need to change gears quite often, how is the low end torque of this bike?, Will it feel happy to go at lower speeds in 3rd or 4th gears

[@ron1080yeah]

Shumi going into talking about honda as brand made me wanna listen to you guys talk about brands of motorcycles at length and their india vs international aspects. would be so intresting

[@motorinc]

All right! Suggestion noted!