Motorola R7 vs. Motorola 7550e: Which One is Right for You?

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K0LWC

K0LWC

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Motorola recently released their Motorola R7 DMR handheld radio to replace the Motorola 7550e. Which one is right for you? I discuss what features immeidately stood out to me and whether you should consider purchasing the Motorola R7.
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
0:57 Radio Thickness
1:27 Ergonomics
2:26 Keypad Differences
3:22 Emergency Button Size
3:48 Activity Light Redesigned
4:16 User Interface
5:25 Noise Cancelling System
7:42 Speaker Loudness
8:29 Ruggedness
9:34 Which Would I Choose?
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@Zukuri620
@Zukuri620 10 ай бұрын
Just bougt a 7550e. I watched your video before deciding, but the biggest factor for me was price and availability. 3x the price for the R7 just wasn't worth it.
@dangerranger7209
@dangerranger7209 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review from N2DMR
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@CoveyHillFarm
@CoveyHillFarm Жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you!
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@troyrowe2559
@troyrowe2559 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Can you recommend a wireless noise cancelling headset that would work with the R7?
@michaelt.9372
@michaelt.9372 Жыл бұрын
I got the ion and im very happy with it
@N4EJM
@N4EJM 5 ай бұрын
How much were you able to get the Ion for if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve heard they go for $2,600 but are much cheaper for PS and hams.
@michaelt.9372
@michaelt.9372 5 ай бұрын
@@N4EJM call north Georgia communications. I think it was like $1700
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 Жыл бұрын
KOLWC alright got the radio signed up with Motorola turned on radio states it is unprogrammed and won't connect to wi-fi, any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 3 ай бұрын
KOLWC quick question is there and issue that you know of with R7 Regionalization if I were to purchase my radio in the UK and use in the UK and USA?
@BobSmith-vu9fw
@BobSmith-vu9fw Жыл бұрын
Nice HT. I'd like to purchase this.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
You should!
@crackerwood661
@crackerwood661 Жыл бұрын
​@@K0LWCill need your support when I do 😉
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video it's my understand it's either UHF Or VHF cannot be programmed for both?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
Yes, they’re monoband only.
@georgevauter9086
@georgevauter9086 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Would you recommend the R7 over the Smart ION?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
That's a great question, George. I haven't used the Smart ION personally. However, I've had friends who at first scoffed at the idea of the ION and now want one, and or, have one themselves. My only question would be the stability and usability of the Android OS long-term over the years. That very fact kept me away from purchasing one.
@samjonesmartin
@samjonesmartin Жыл бұрын
With the ION the main catch you have is that it’s subscription based for programming through Motorolas radio central system where as the R7 once it’s been regionalised by connecting to Wi-Fi it doesn’t need to call home to Motorola again and can be programmed over USB like normal or OTAP or Wi-Fi if using Radio Management.
@georgevauter9086
@georgevauter9086 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both for the info!
@RookieLock
@RookieLock Жыл бұрын
Wow, both beautiful radios.. My dream ht.. Wish I could afford one, lol
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 11 ай бұрын
I'll sell you a 7550e in perfect condition with all new everything. leather case, speaker mic, charger...all NEW in box (not the actual radio but all the accessories). For like 400.00
@RookieLock
@RookieLock 11 ай бұрын
I would, but i really cant afford it right now.. im not working atm..
@capei208
@capei208 10 ай бұрын
​@@markfrost2707still selling?
@mainetomass99
@mainetomass99 Жыл бұрын
Frustrating that this rig is monoband only. Wish I could Mod my work APX 8000 to the ham bands ;) Did you go with the UHF for inside residence hotspot use since UHF penetrates better?
@dylanfeeney2373
@dylanfeeney2373 10 ай бұрын
Apx8000 works on the ham bands I have a buddy who has one ans runs it all the time
@lasersights
@lasersights Жыл бұрын
1600 bucks... holy hannah montana
@seanrance5993
@seanrance5993 10 ай бұрын
Are the chargers different for these two radios or do you have to get all new chargers and base stations for them?
@tommyakin8794
@tommyakin8794 10 ай бұрын
ALL NEW, BIGGER CAPACITY, thinner form factor
@BilalAhmad-mh1xb
@BilalAhmad-mh1xb Жыл бұрын
I want
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 Жыл бұрын
Where do you suggest I buy the radio and can it be a tri band radio. Thanks.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
It’s monoband only. If you wanted triband you’d need to go with the APX series. Check out North Georgia Communications.
@gbcengineering5237
@gbcengineering5237 Жыл бұрын
Can you confirm you were able to program a 25khz channel spacing with that entitlement loaded on your CPS for a analog frequency? I can’t get confirmation either from a dealer or moto. Thanks
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve done it successfully. You need to take the course from Motorola to successfully get access to the entitlement key and flash it to the radio.
@gbcengineering5237
@gbcengineering5237 Жыл бұрын
@@K0LWC thank you.
@crackerwood661
@crackerwood661 Жыл бұрын
​@@K0LWCcan you post a video if what it takes to do the course?
@N4EJM
@N4EJM 5 ай бұрын
Do they make a mobile dock for them like they do for the XTS series radios?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC 5 ай бұрын
Not that I’ve seen. And don’t see any listed on the compatible accessories.
@N4EJM
@N4EJM 5 ай бұрын
@@K0LWC That stinks. That dock for the XTS series is sweet.
@krisrc4life
@krisrc4life Жыл бұрын
I found the noise canceling for the R7 doesn't work well for me. I work in a plant and the volume fluctuates so much its quite a nuisance. Got 8 of these radios and almost no one in my shop uses them. They continue to use the 7550e's instead. I got to see if I can turn this feature off altogether.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
You can turn off the second mic and use the same canceling as the 7550e. It’s true that if the noise in the background is fluctuating way up and down quickly it has to track that and it will have a delay/issue with it. Seems constant levels it handles best.
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 Жыл бұрын
With respect to the R7… which iCom and Yaesu units would be closest analogs (most similar in features)? What is the philosophy of use/what kind of user would pick the R7? Thanks for the video.
@tecdive8045
@tecdive8045 Жыл бұрын
The comparable iComs would be either the ID-52 (D-Star), or F4400D (NXDN). In Yaesu it would be the FT5-DR (C4FM). The user who would pick the R7 is one who wants to play on DMR but doesn't want to use a cheap Chinese radio (CCR), and is willing to get the next level up above the XPR7550e.
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 Жыл бұрын
@@tecdive8045 Thank you for the clarification. Not my area of expertise.
@tommyakin8794
@tommyakin8794 10 ай бұрын
@@tecdive8045 There is a user segment in digital radio that will buy the R7 for 1 of 3 reasons: 1. They are more technically inclined to move to the newest technology to enjoy new features & abilities, 2. Will own one as it is an "EGO" radio, proving they can afford it and have what you don't, like an Icom 7851 or Yaesu FTdx9000D. 3. An "early adopter" who will learn all features and use them well. I have used the XPR7550E for years, and have found it to be extremely reliable, and will work more distant repeaters that the TYT/Baofeng, Alinco and others wont get to at all. Where I live, cell phones are not 100% reliable, but we enjoy good coverage on FUSION, D-Star, P25 and DMR. My safety and the safety of my family doesn't become a reality with a $60-$90 radio made in China.
@XxThegr81xX
@XxThegr81xX Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend either one of these over the Rfinder B1+?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’d take either of these radios over an RFinder. RFinder is a cool idea, but really no comparison to the quality and engineering of a Motorola radio. If you want a cool toy and some headaches, get an RFinder. If you want a quality DMR radio get a Motorola.
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 11 ай бұрын
YES
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 Жыл бұрын
So say I purchase a new Motorola R7 where do I get it programmed or do I buy the software and cable to use it as a Ham Radio? Thanks.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
You need to register with Motorola as an amateur user. They’ll refuge you the software for free - but the hoops do take a couple weeks to jump through.
@ivanthegreat1004
@ivanthegreat1004 Жыл бұрын
@@K0LWC can you explain this. I’m new to all this too haha
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 Жыл бұрын
@@K0LWC Thanks got it down question can you recommend a antenna better than the original? Thanks.
@gottago1052
@gottago1052 Жыл бұрын
Also what vendor has the best price...thanks.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
You’d have to check with a vendor as prices can vary between them.
@turbo2ltr
@turbo2ltr Жыл бұрын
Spec sheet says 25khz bandwidth is not available in the US. So do you only use these for DMR? Or do you just operate 12.5khz analog even if the repeater is wideband? As someone that only has older motorola radios, what is the additional cost for the CPS software?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
You can obtain a 25khz bandwidth entitlement key, but you have to take a short training and sign off on how you’ll use it. You’ll then get issued 25khz keys to flash to the radio. CPS 2.0 is $170 every three years.
@rrrussell1009
@rrrussell1009 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure CPS is free now, but I think you have to purchase an entitlement for software updates now.
@varojvimarapirat6936
@varojvimarapirat6936 3 ай бұрын
I have some question about R7 it can use FPP for change frequency?
@AsyncProductionsRP
@AsyncProductionsRP 2 ай бұрын
No, it cannot I believe.
@DonzLockz
@DonzLockz Жыл бұрын
They must be expensive. The R7 looks awesome! Why are the antennas and knobs on the wrong side on Motorola's? I have two GP328, great audio and range even for an older Motorola HT radio. Cheers for sharing the HT radio porn. Lol 🍻👍
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. They run about $1,500 USD with all the entitlements, so not too shabby compared to other Motorola models.
@P25AES
@P25AES Жыл бұрын
They can be had for $1k~
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
@@P25AES Yes, but I'm assuming that's bare bones with no extras.
@P25AES
@P25AES Жыл бұрын
@K0LWC I got the enabled version. Everything enabled with charger, antenna, battery, clip etc.
@colfax13
@colfax13 Жыл бұрын
The antenna is on the same side as the mic Jack so that you can use a combined mic/antenna that sits on your shoulder. This is something that’s really common in industry and public safety.
@sr-xv7eu
@sr-xv7eu Жыл бұрын
It can't be the same as the iPhone screen because they brake to easily lol. But I like the R7
@lancedooley7558
@lancedooley7558 Жыл бұрын
What real radios are for Ham, DMR and GMRS repeaters and true simplex encryption. 😎. A big way to give the middle finger to the government. Motorola does not give your information out from what I hear. Correct me if I'm wrong. Just got into these. Working on Hammy License but have my gmrs license. EXCELLENT VIDEO!!😎😎🔥🔥
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
Well what you're describing would be Motorola, but you won't be able to use encryption on many of the services you listed.
@lancedooley7558
@lancedooley7558 Жыл бұрын
@@K0LWC not legally no. In a shtf that might be different story. I wouldn't use for ham but for simplex commercial only. The encryption does work. I want to pick up 2 or 3 Motorola's for my squad.
@mehdizayid181
@mehdizayid181 7 ай бұрын
Hello, does the motorola r7 work with the internet or with the number on the motorola walkie-talkies
@Hero1395
@Hero1395 Жыл бұрын
I thought I was cool when I had a 99ch MT1000.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
That’s still cool!
@shutterbug2193
@shutterbug2193 Жыл бұрын
How much does the R7 cost?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
$1200 - $1500 depends on options.
@erics6177
@erics6177 Жыл бұрын
It's only Motorola would sell their radios to ham radio operators. You have to know a dealer and figure out all kinds of other crap once you get in the commercial realm. It seems really difficult to even figure out how to get your hands on one. Is it hard to get analog wideband enabled on them?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
No. There are dealers out there that sell to the ham community. The wideband entitlement is just a simple training and you get access to it. I didn’t find it all that hard.
@P25AES
@P25AES Жыл бұрын
There is no money to be had in amateur radio when it comes to commercial equipment.
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 11 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of beautiful 7550e's with all new accessories for sale
@MarkWasylyshyn
@MarkWasylyshyn 3 ай бұрын
@@markfrost2707how much do you want for them?
@B83024
@B83024 Жыл бұрын
LOVE this new radio ! ( BUT ) i have heard from 4 different people u have to go threw HELL to get the programming soft wear from Motorola ? like pay out ( BIG ) money and take a test to get the soft wear SERIOUSLY ! ? ! ? wow ok then ???????? how did u get the soft wear and if u did get it from Motorola what hell did u go threw ?? thanks 73's
@PhilBaker1
@PhilBaker1 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound like the CPS costs anything. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqGUiIqQeZWKf6M
@AL6S00740
@AL6S00740 Жыл бұрын
The only sad thing is the on the fly programing. That I mind a lot.
@AL6S00740
@AL6S00740 Жыл бұрын
That does not exist on Commercial radios.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
The radio will be front keypad programmable. It’s a feature offered by Motorola, but they haven’t rolled it out on the R7 yet.
@hbryant1971
@hbryant1971 Жыл бұрын
No dispute that Motorola is Extreme High Quality, but WAY OERPRICED!
@galax574
@galax574 Жыл бұрын
V
@gilad211073
@gilad211073 5 ай бұрын
Hi I am the biggest company that sells motorola in Israel. Am I allowed to show my visitors in my site your video?
@K0LWC
@K0LWC 5 ай бұрын
Sure.
@henryatkinson1479
@henryatkinson1479 Жыл бұрын
Big factor you miss here is the price. You can get a 7550e and every accessory you could ever want for 3 times over for the price of an R7.
@P25AES
@P25AES Жыл бұрын
7550e can be had for 350...
@henryatkinson1479
@henryatkinson1479 Жыл бұрын
@@P25AES Exactly, and you can, for another ~150, get a remote mic, a bunch of batteries, and a charger. So lets say 500 for a complete setup. That gets you ~1/3 of the way to an R7.
@P25AES
@P25AES Жыл бұрын
@@henryatkinson1479 although I'd rather have the R7.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
That’s simply because the used market is pretty sparse. Your comparing a new radio to a used market that’s been around for many years. It’ll come down slowly over time.
@BobSmith-vu9fw
@BobSmith-vu9fw Жыл бұрын
@@P25AES is EBAY the best source for the 7550e?
@johnreno8909
@johnreno8909 Жыл бұрын
how much is brand new motorola R7 ???
@mipars
@mipars Жыл бұрын
Really no USB connector for charging in 2022. Shame
@jeffccr3620
@jeffccr3620 Жыл бұрын
R7 is what they are using in Ukraine for rescue and medical teams
@MikeG-js1jt
@MikeG-js1jt Жыл бұрын
they want $200 for the programming software.......... I was ok with paying a premium for the radio, but when I found out it was $$$ for the programming software....well
@XCFloresX
@XCFloresX Жыл бұрын
If you have an MOL account, the CPS is free
@ManuelPinner
@ManuelPinner Жыл бұрын
Motor Motorola used to be good when they were American made, but they no good no more cuz they made in communist China, I buy a Yeasu or an icom which is made in Japan,
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
My Motorola wasn’t made in China. Also, Yaesu does have manufacturing in China so it’s not solely Japan.
@ManuelPinner
@ManuelPinner Жыл бұрын
@@K0LWC Yes the FT 70, I have the FT5D made in Japan!
@gMan1971
@gMan1971 Жыл бұрын
Motorola commercial radios are made in Malaysia, and only the top tier APX radios IIRC are made in the USA. Only the cheap stuff is made in China AFAIK.
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 11 ай бұрын
Theyre solid as a rock and bullet proof still
@MikeG-js1jt
@MikeG-js1jt Жыл бұрын
for a 1200 dollar radio, they should have at least gave it the ability to put out more than 4 and 5 watts on UHF and VHF I mean ShEEESHH!
@K0LWC
@K0LWC Жыл бұрын
I like my brain too much for that.
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 Жыл бұрын
But why? That would just drain the battery much faster for minimal extra performance, to say nothing of RF safety concerns.
@MikeG-js1jt
@MikeG-js1jt Жыл бұрын
@@Porty1119 because its $1200.00 ...... it should be available if need be,,,,,, Because its $1200.00
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeG-js1jt No.
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 11 ай бұрын
he's being paid to talk up thr new model. Or he got free radios, etc. Trust me....this is NOT an honest assessment
@K0LWC
@K0LWC 11 ай бұрын
Ha. I wish. I haven’t been paid by anyone nor given anything Motorola for free.
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 11 ай бұрын
@@K0LWC Then my sincere apologies. I shouldnt have wrote that unless I knew.
@davidconlin6878
@davidconlin6878 11 ай бұрын
What Talk groups are you on DMR ? It would be interesting to talk to you on dmr.
@K0LWC
@K0LWC 11 ай бұрын
31272 and 3127.
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