The 2014 Subaru Forester hits a growth spurt. MotorWeek's John Davis has the road test review.
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@jtafoya8810 жыл бұрын
2014 motor trends suv of the year Subaru Forester!! Love its what makes a Subaru.
@wayward0310 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny when people talk about shitty interior on the forester. I guess they have never seen an american car. I test drove nearly all the competition in the last week or so and by far the worst were GMC jeep and ford. Kia and Toyota weren't bad but wanted too much money for base engines. Shouldn't be paying 32k USD for a fwd NA kia sportage. At least the Subaru has awd and a turbo for 29k
@shyster71710 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that I will have to pay 39000 Euro for 2.0XT Comfort in Europe:-( Why in the USA everything is so cheap? How it is made?
@wayward0310 жыл бұрын
Michał Lewandowski my xt doesn't have leather, power tailgate, power mirrors, navigation, or the 6speaker stereo. Plus more volume in the states allows them to sell more cars at a lower price.
@azburgessfamily11 жыл бұрын
My Mom got a 2.0 Touring XT today. It is a lot more fun to drive then you think it should. The safety, reliability, and deal she got was very nice.
@themainspringer11 жыл бұрын
I have had the XT Premium for the last 3 weeks and I am extremely please with my purchase. The SUV has excellent pickup and power delivery throughout the rev range despite the CVT and is a blast to drive in the sport or sport # mode. No regrets awesome vehicle. And when you add best in class legroom, storage, power and speed the competition is left with nothing until you can pitch in for a Porsche cayenne
@tarheelgeorge11 жыл бұрын
Just got a good deal on a new Premium! I love it! Fun to drive, great visibility, and very high safety ratings!
@G8GTJav11 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? The XT Premium (aprox $28k) comes standard with sunroof, Direct Injected turbo motor (more hp than Ecoboost), capable AWD w/ X-mode, leather trimmed interior, & top of class MPG. Price other CUVs with similar features & power levels (Escape, Sorrento). They start in the mid 30s & go on up. The XT is a relative bargain. Family member just got one. The CVT trans is really smooth, interior is quiet w/ great visibility, instant boost/power, sporty suspension & steering. Great car!
@G8GTJav11 жыл бұрын
The beefed up CVT in the FXT is great. Super smooth around town in i-mode & the Sport & Sport# modes simulate 6 & 8 speed autos while adjust steering feel. Lots of fun using Sport# mode w/ paddle shifters on twisty mountain roads! I think the CVT even simulates rev matched downshifts. You can also put it in manual to have complete control of the shifts. Check out the Subaru Japan videos of the FXT on the Nurburgring & Mika Hakkinen (rally driver) driving it hard.
@G8GTJav11 жыл бұрын
BTW, I'm not a salesman just an enthusiast. My family got an XT Premium in Satin Pearl White. It had the right mix of off-road capability with great power at a reasonable price (compared to others CUVs we looked at). Also, looks great with the machined face/charchoal wheels & is a hoot to drive on twisty mountain roads in Sport# mode using the paddle shifters. Definitely going to upgrade the junk radio though, LOL.
@jasoncarpp774210 жыл бұрын
Hopefully stands out. One thing that disappoints me to no end is its lack of a 2.0 litre Boxer Diesel option. Is the "market" ready for a diesel powered Subaru? Maybe, maybe not. But Subaru won't know until they're willing to take a chance. Instead of dragging their feet, Subaru should just take a chance and import a few Boxer Diesel engines at a time, to test the waters, find out what people think. :)
@jasoncarpp774210 жыл бұрын
MrAbletospeak Since 2008. The question is whether Subaru is willing to offer it to the USA market.
@thegonz911 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's interesting that I've never heard this issue addressed in any of the road test videos for Subaru.
@814gt11 жыл бұрын
This CVT is amazing. You have no clue. In sport mode, you would not even notice it was not 6 gears...seriously, you have no idea.
@814gt11 жыл бұрын
I have an xt for past 3 weeks also. Love it. Powerlift gate and I can't believe how fast this engine is. Highway passing in sport mode is very powerful. Motorweek has a serious 0-60 problem. They also tested an STI and clocked it at over 6 seconds. XT 2014 in sport mode is a lot faster than 7.6. Not sure if this some strange altitude problem or they can't drive. I have a 2011 wrx...raced it several times and it's very close to wrx
@G8GTJav11 жыл бұрын
Actually, FXT surprisingly sporty & corners flat. Yeah, it will plow/understeer at the limit but pretty darn good. And sorry, not a SUV but a CUV. Sport utilities are based off truck platforms (body-on-frame design) & typically heavy, low mpg but can tow a lot. Crossovers are based off car platforms (unibody construction) & typically lighter/smoother suspension/more efficient than SUVs at the expense of offroad capability & towing. The FXT is built off of the Impreza platform so why not compare.
@prairiewanderer504011 жыл бұрын
Great post. Another thing to notice is that most crossovers look very much like the original Subaru Tribeca? That car came out and within a couple of years it had a lot of followers from other manufacturers mimicing the styling.
@Fussinated11 жыл бұрын
Actually, if there is any drive system that could compensate the different tread wear patterns on tires is the ALL WHEEL DRIVE system. Its sole purpose is to compensate the differences of which tire grips how much anyway. In real life driving, some people even told that they didn't even realized that they have a flat tire because the AWD system compensated it quite effectively.
@affinity111 жыл бұрын
i love the rear spoiler. It makes it look agressive and i can appreciate how high the new forester appears compared to the previous gen. Although the hood is higher than previous models, i wish they kept the option of a hood scoop... it's a unique feature that buyers of the turbo generally like in my opinion. They should have kept the turbo model as a 2.5L.
@modmatt111 жыл бұрын
Just checked and at the 28k price point, the XT Premium does NOT come with Leather or heated seats in the US anyway. The 33k price point "Touring" model does have the leather option. Not even an option to add if you don't like Cloth, which I do, but heated option on cloth would be perfect if offered (with manual and turbo).
@redneon068 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see the test track in better condition.
@symmetry0811 жыл бұрын
CVT trans coupled with Turbo engine because small but powerful engine build up power in linear way so that it doesn't pull on crank shaft with high torque. Smaller displacement guarantees gradual rise in power.
@aconfusedazn11 жыл бұрын
The Subaru guys were one of the first to have the turbo option. Not the other way around.
@thegonz911 жыл бұрын
Is it true that on "all wheel drive vehicles", tire tread needs to be nearly the same on all four tires for proper perfomance? Therefore if one tire needs to be replaced, all the others must also. If that's the case, tires could be a major expense on Subaru vehicles.
@AWDfreak11 жыл бұрын
Only the base 2.5L FB25 engine can be had with the 6-speed manual. It's not even a special order, it's the standard transmission for the Forester 2.5i and Forester 2.5i Premium. All Subaru Forester 2.0XT models come only with the Lineartronic CVT, and cannot be had in a manual transmission like the second generation Forester could. I hope this clarifies any possible misunderstanding.
@fabulousprofound11 жыл бұрын
yes it's true, but only with worn tires (don't know the allowable percentage off the top of my head hopefully someone else reading this does). the differentials will keep trying to compensate thinking that the difference in rotational speeds is because of tire slippage and will eventually burn something out. if your tires are still relatively new, the difference in diameter between the existing and new replacement is not enough to warranty replacing the other three.
@G8GTJav11 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention it also has paddle shifters! Sport mode simulates a 6-speed while Sport# mode simulates an 8-speed auto. Sport# mode w/ paddle shifters has been an absolute blast on twisty mountain roads by the way. Don't listen to the review. The motor is super responsive/peppy, steering is well weighted w/ good feel, & CVT works great. Watch the Subaru engineering vids from Japan. The engineers went all out! Go Subaru.
@25gwolfable7 жыл бұрын
love the video I love my seat 2014 Forester but I noticed one thing that you guys left out on the Forester the rear seats do lead back there's a little cable that you pull and the seats will recline that's actually a plus I've been a vehicles have that too bad you didn't state that I'm just saying
@Zinizzle11 жыл бұрын
The 0-60 in this is rated at 6.3 in XT. I don't know where you're getting 7.6 from unless you're above sea level.
@WRX4moi11 жыл бұрын
X-Mode on all CVT-equipped Foresters (2.5i & 2.0XT) in Canada - not just 2.0XT as implied in this video.
@tomwil778 жыл бұрын
You got a mere 7/10 MPG less than the EPA average MPG rating, and were disappointed? And was probably driving it harder than most people? As well as driving a new car that wasn't yet broken in fully? When considering what I mentioned above, I'd say the Forester did better than expected.
@AK-re9qo11 жыл бұрын
Its a Turbo Charged, DOHC 16-Valve, Horizontally- Opposed, 4- Cylinder, 4 Stroke, powered with 240 ps and 350 Nm. Lineartronic , AWD. Selling at RM199,800.00 car price.
@G8GTJav11 жыл бұрын
The XT Premium has leather wrapped steering wheel & shift nob. Regarding the seats, thought they were leather trimmed w/ cloth inserts. My bad. Guess they are leather look? At any rate, look very nice & shouldn't get lava hot in the sun or ice cold in the winter, like my G8. LOL. The new FXT is a great vehicle worth checking out. Smooth, sporty, quiet, roomy w/ good visibility, AWD w/ X-mode, DI turbo with great power/economy, beefed up CVT w/ different modes & paddles (fun). Great value at 28k.
@themainspringer11 жыл бұрын
People often drive the forester and then compare it to the WRX or the STI. For those of you this is a SUV so compare it to an SUV and not other cars. If you want a WRX or and STI just go get that.
@killersushi9910 жыл бұрын
/\ Paid for the turbo version. Totally Worth It.
@fikes7311 жыл бұрын
That XT would be so awesome with a 6 speed manual. Cant wait for the new WRX with the new motor. I hope they didnt soften it up too much
@AWDfreak11 жыл бұрын
If you have genuine proof of this, I would be glad to verify it. Honestly, I actually wish the XT could be had with the 6-speed manual. However, the turbocharged engine never sold well with the manual transmission and it took Subaru of America quite a while to sell off the manual transmission Foresters back in the late 2000's.
@foxtrot68511 жыл бұрын
I think with these cars that promise power AND MPG's... if it comes up short people get disappointing quickly. Its no different with Ford Escape EcoGimmick... I mean EcoBoost engines that are falling short of the EPA estimates.
@TimJoseph0803199011 жыл бұрын
Good News! This one got a Top Safety Pick+ just like the Volvo XC60.
@GundamAngelicDevil11 жыл бұрын
Reminds me more of those game show hosts back in the 60s and 70s.
@OneCrazyMax11 жыл бұрын
Hey Motorweek, how were you guys able to get a 2.0XT Premium Forester with Navigation? There is no factory option for Nav on the 2.0XT Premium.
@guyproulx166010 жыл бұрын
anyone notice how he compared the forester to a rav4 and cr-v and not compare it to a POS domestic
@bobnagana67806 жыл бұрын
Yes there are more cars in the segment to compare it to, but nothing wrong with comparing it to japanese sales leaders, its japanese
@lapamful10 жыл бұрын
0-60 in less than a week? Great! O_O
@artilleryisbetter3 жыл бұрын
motor trend did 6,1seconds 0-60mph
@Ed-lz4jv10 жыл бұрын
HEY GUY WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING AT US !!!!! WE CAN HEAR YOUUUUUUUUUU
@SubiefanWRXsti11 жыл бұрын
CVT, I'm not happy unless they at least offer a manual in the xt.
@PaulKeeley10 жыл бұрын
Party on Wayne, and party on Garth!
@Zickcermacity8 жыл бұрын
4:43 - "steering that feels anesthetized" WHY?? And this is a complaint I've heard and read variations of in reviews of all manufacturers, save BMW or Mercedes. Please Subaru(and Toyota, and Chevy, and Ford, and Hyundai!!): Leave some WEIGHT in the steering, even if you go electrical.
@traviswallace580211 жыл бұрын
What price did you get? I can't find any white ones in stock locally in South Florida. Thanks
@AWDfreak11 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to soyntgo4it... internationally, the new Forester XT is still automatic-exclusive, however, uses the new high-torque Lineartronic CVT. At least it has paddle shifters (especially useful for engine braking).
@fabulousprofound11 жыл бұрын
hopefully someone can give a more detailed explanation that what i offered. i used to own a wrx and i had a sidewall puncture that couldn't be repaired, and because of the low tread and a hard facts lecture by the tire shop what you asked about become a very expensive reality for me =(
@JordsterMovies10 жыл бұрын
MotorTrend took the same car 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. As did Car and Driver. How did your driver take 7.6 seconds? Was this a pre-production model or something?
@RobertLeBlancPhoto10 жыл бұрын
MotorWeek does all of their time tests from a standing start without pre-revving the engine or disabling traction control, just as it is from the factory. Also, their testing location is above sea level altitude.
@tgvcfr120 Жыл бұрын
Is this fb20 or ej20?
@mikedanahey954710 жыл бұрын
Turbos are for diesels and kiĺ long term reliability. Give me a 2.5 base with a manual transmission
@samsquantch145 жыл бұрын
bahahahah...i hope you're kidding...subaru are gutless dogs without a turbo and theres plenty of ecoboost fords running a 1/4 million miles still going strong
@adammcdonald726811 жыл бұрын
good review!
@1776adb5 жыл бұрын
This 0-60 time is way off from what it actually does- 0-60 in 6.2 sec You need a new tester, he must have been asleep at the wheel; so to speak - lol.
@realdimension11 жыл бұрын
OUR VIEWERS DO NOT HAVE VOLUME CONTROLS SO WE SHOULD YELL INTO OUR MICROPHONES AND SPEAK VERY CLEAR! .. Is what the narrator must have been thinking.
@814gt10 жыл бұрын
7.6 0-60? Why does Motorweek always have the slowest recorded times of any automotive journalism? You also had an STI at 6 seconds? Forester xt is 6.6 seconds and that 1/4 mile time is so far off it's not even worth typing further
@somanymods10 жыл бұрын
they probably don't torque brake and leave the traction control on
@rrmulder10 жыл бұрын
Could it be because Motorweek is putting Regular in it? Their long-term update states repeatedly that they're using Regular gas. I use Premium in my XT. I haven't tried Mid-Grade or Regular.
@pillrollerdeluxe8 жыл бұрын
+Reyer Mulder I've been watching Motorweek for 30 years and they put only the mfg recommended fuel in each vehicle.
@koukimonzta11 жыл бұрын
stick shift is version better for petes sake ! learn it buy it and enjoy it !
@Estirvana11 жыл бұрын
Man I'm so glad Hyundai/Kia finally got a design language. I wasn't a fan of their beige exteriors and styling.
@EeroHaapala6910 жыл бұрын
My car, love her ;)
@gerardmartel423710 жыл бұрын
I have never owned a Subaru to date but I have been doing lots of reading on the forester and I'm thinking it may be my next car. Because of this I was wondering if there are any owners of a 2014 or 2015 Forester in this group. Here in Canada they are claiming to get 33 mpg city and 45 mpg highway with the 2.5 and a cvt. If anyone in the group owns one please give me some over all feed back on the car. If I am to spend that much for a car I would like to think I am getting one that is good. I now drive a Toyota Matrix awd and very much like the car but all my research on the Forester is making me think real hard about switching to the Subaru. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated either here or inbox my facebook profile. Thanks in advance.
@RobertLeBlancPhoto10 жыл бұрын
We ordered a 2015 Forester XT-Touring and expect it to arrive in a few months, here in the US. As for the mpg... www.ehow.com/how_6849954_do-canada-mpg-u_s_-mpg_.html
@jose8636210 жыл бұрын
IS THE BEST OF THE BEST, IS AMAZING NEVER SUFFERED NO DAMAGE It is SAFEST TRUCK
@marc-andrebertrand65019 жыл бұрын
I own a 2015 Forester 2.5i Touring here in Canada. I get an average of 7.8 L/100 km, which is around 36 mpg. It's the best car I've own so far. Regarding security, it's one of the best according to the IIHS. Depends on what are your needs. I'm living in a mountainous and very snowy region, so you can't go wrong with a Forester.
@dleetrini9 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of buying a Forester XT also, and at this time I am concerned of the excessive oil consumption issue that many claim to be having with several models, for example the 2014 Forester 2.5L, 2013 Crosstrek 2.0L, Impreza, Legacy etc. I have not seen anything so far about the 2014/15Forester XT models having this problem, although do expect the turbo to burn a little oil. Has anyone experience this excessive oil consumption problem? This would be my first Subie and turbo charged motor. Thanks...
@RobertLeBlancPhoto9 жыл бұрын
Marc-Andre Bertrand 36mpg? Prove it.
@Y10Q10 жыл бұрын
2:53 holly shit that thing is knocking
@bradellman791410 жыл бұрын
It's the direct injection, not knocking.
@MrChonkers10 жыл бұрын
Rather quiet one. I enjoy a booming engine.
@J_Alex_Carr_9510 жыл бұрын
Almost like the Dodge neons my engine has a loud "tick" but it's the injectors
@babygamer40511 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why subaru haven't hired a new chief designer like kia with peter from audi? Love the subaru all wheel drive but models and design are so out of date and plain. Look what happen to kia when they hired Peter....Excactly.
@canddmeyer11 жыл бұрын
Disappointing review. I wish they'd tested a 2.5 which will garner the majority of sales instead of the XT.
@mss6279 жыл бұрын
Nice if somewhat boring looking vehicle. Love the moon roof. Unfortunately all the good press has caused dealers to jack up the price.
@tomwil778 жыл бұрын
+Martin Smith Where are you located? I'm in the Four Corners area of New Mexico, and I've had absolutely no problem getting internet quotes that are less than MSRP. The best quote so far is more than $2800 off MSRP. And I've found other dealers that are willing to match that, and one said he would beat that, although he didn't give an exact price.
@mss6278 жыл бұрын
+Tom Willard I live in Maryland.
@tomwil778 жыл бұрын
+Martin Smith I'd get Internet quotes, as they tend to give better quotes online. Back in 2006, I bought a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, and received $3300 in discounts by shopping online before going to the dealer. Being that the Wrangler has a cult following (that's way bigger that the Subaru following), that's basically unheard of. By the way, 3 of the 5 dealers I got quote from are in Colorado, where Subarus sell way better than in New Mexico (because of the snow there). Grand Junction, Colorado is where the lowest quote came from,despite the popularity. Get several quotes from several of the closest dealers. Take the lowest quote as an example, to show other dealers what they are competing against. Copy and paste the whole quote to email replies from them, and respond with those emails, telling them which dealer the quote came from. Make it so that it's dealer against dealer, and you'll likely get a significant savings.
@clobbyhops10 жыл бұрын
The interior on this Subaru is not as good looking as the Ford Escape, but a better overall vehicle in the compact class. Say! Subaru? please improve your interior design on the Forester.
@rsxzx6r11 жыл бұрын
0-60 in 7.6 sec?...with turbo 250hp?...that doesnt sound right...the old turbo forester did it in 6.8
@AWDfreak11 жыл бұрын
What in the **** are you talking about? The previous Forester XT was exclusively 4EAT, the new one is exclusively using the new high-torque Lineartronic CVT. Unless you have genuinely convincing information, you're just spreading so much misinformation.
@Estirvana11 жыл бұрын
I have nothing wrong with both companies.
@GundamAngelicDevil11 жыл бұрын
Still would like a WRX version of this...
@21waikiki10 жыл бұрын
Need Aussie comparison
@charleskratochvil311011 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean you'll pay $37,000.
@awksweat23011 жыл бұрын
This guy was destined to be a drill sergeant, not a car reviewer.
@Driftuner11 жыл бұрын
why is he screaming?
@Fussinated11 жыл бұрын
"Can someone explain to me why subaru haven't hired a new chief designer like kia with peter from audi?" Sure. Because, Hyundai and Kia wanted to appeal to the western market buyers and they don't have the tradition to design cars for different markets. However, Japanese car makers have better experience on the design (notice that how VW imitated the head light design of the previous Forester on their Tiguan etc). And Peter designed the worst Audi's so far, with that hideous grille :).
@marcopolo-xj4yw11 жыл бұрын
Is it ok for me to buy this car if I'm not a lesbian?
@kingdarius525211 жыл бұрын
Wow, was the purpose of this redesign simply to reduce production costs for Subaru? It looks exactly the same except cheaper and more compromised interior quality. The interior is a step DOWN, looks like a budget econo car interior, except the steering wheel is kinda nice actually. But this trend of cheapening good cars is unacceptable. Also, those wheels look fucking stupid on an SUV. Totally out of place.
@6marco511 жыл бұрын
sounds like a Pizza commercial
@Bra55Monkey10 жыл бұрын
7.6secs?!?! That's a horrible 0-60 time for a turbo'd boxer engine...
@sebastianmosqueira93599 жыл бұрын
its 6.2 secs
@240boy9 жыл бұрын
Jacques Poliquin The 14-15 Forester XT's have been tested anywhere from 5.8-6.5 on average. Motorweeks 0-60 and 1/4 mile times have always horribly slow for some reason compared to other testers.
@tomwil778 жыл бұрын
+GhillieLand But it's not broken in yet. I'm sure it'll perform better once past the 1000 mile break-in period. Plus you also have to consider the conditions, which vary from place to place and day to day. Such as temperature, humidity, and altitude. All of those can affect engine output to one extent or another.
@user-zc6ul8nv1j11 жыл бұрын
What?
@hotdogsamurai11 жыл бұрын
Why is this guy yelling at me the whole video?
@stokerwieczorek96910 жыл бұрын
Does he have to yell?!
@steveespinola76524 жыл бұрын
He's not yelling, that's how he talks.
@stokerwieczorek9694 жыл бұрын
Steve Espinola he is yelling bro
@azburgessfamily11 жыл бұрын
My
@Fussinated11 жыл бұрын
Then go buy a VW Tiguan and pay $40,000 for a lesser SUV !!!!
@NLovingMemoryOfJesus11 жыл бұрын
Yo, why are you yelling?
@im1greatman11 жыл бұрын
I just seen this car on autotrader for $37,000! Are they out of their fucking minds! Way to overpriced!
@leneanderthalien10 жыл бұрын
the commentator speak like a washing powder seller...
@scottmroddy11 жыл бұрын
No, actually it is not. You actually have to be a lesbian to purchase one, it is in the fine print.
@cassiocm11 жыл бұрын
Overpriced! not enough car for the money in the 2.0XT
@charleskratochvil311011 жыл бұрын
subaru.com
@drklop10 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds so annoying. I can't even focus on WHAT he says.
@lesaber2518 жыл бұрын
+drklop I wonder if he talks the same way at home with the family. 14 yr old daughter: "DAD CAN YOU JUST SHUT THE HELL UP?"
@arlofs8 жыл бұрын
The "guy" is John Davis, mate. He's an automotive legend. 2 generations of car fans in America grew up watching his shows on TV.
@lesaber2518 жыл бұрын
Tony The Tiger I know who he is also. I've been watching his show ever since I saw the first one.
@MouseyBusiness5 жыл бұрын
This guy has been doing this since the early 80s. He's great at what he does...
@AWDfreak11 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to soyntgo4it... internationally, the new Forester XT is still automatic-exclusive, however, uses the new high-torque Lineartronic CVT. At least it has paddle shifters (especially useful for engine braking).