Motoscope Tiny - Revival Cycles Tech Talk

[@Lanesplitter]

Just got me one for my old school bobber - well engineered piece of kit for sure and looks the nuts too.

[@ajs3994]

motogadget makes me look like a genius, that's pretty hard to do.

[@alistercresswell6591]

Thnaks for these videos, Im in the UK and we dont have this kinda thing, Building a GL1000 based cafe racer and im going minimal guages and lights so all good. this helps, Ill go see what your shipping rates are to the UK!!!

[@shaunsheep8252]

Im english. Just buy direct from moto gadget. I have this on my triumph scrambler

[@jvapgb]

Hello I'm trying to connect my tiny motoscope with the m unit blue ... and it doesn't light up ? The red cable to the plus of the m unit with the fusible in between , the black to earth , the brown to the third hole from above ... it doesn't do anything ???

[@davidebortolato2914]

Sorry for the question, I’m a newbie, what about the low fuel light? Is there any solution for that?

[@RevivalCycles]

No problem, The gauge has a single Red warning light in the dash that can be assigned to this application.

[@jilbertjimenez7275]

what about the RPM ? It has indicator RPM?

[@RevivalCycles]

This gauge does not indicate RPM. The larger ChronoClassics as well as the Motoscope Mini and Motoscop Pro also show RPM

[@christophersmith7714]

Looks lovely but I need a speedo for a 1966 Triumph TR6 Bobber that I'm building. You said it needs a connection from a battery for the clock but I'm not having a battery. Is that a deal breaker on this speedo? Cheers from UK

[@RevivalCycles]

These do need a battery in order to operate. Why not looking into a Smiths gauge, they're right in your back yard.

[@christophersmith7714]

@@RevivalCycles cheers man. I love the look of that motogadget but I want to keep things real simple. I'll look at Smiths stuff. I don't want a speedo cable. Just magnet or gps. Cheers

[@TheReverb1]

Hello Stefan, most custom applications have or use thick wiring gauges, like 1mm, 1.5mm or 2mm for the alternator-reg, so my question is how can I joint those micro wires that have the speedo and most Motogadget items with the "normal" wiring? I m thinking to use one of these "net" cables that come to use with the computer/internet routers, etc, that have inside 8 thin wires. Thanks in advance.

[@RevivalCycles]

Sizing wires is a somewhat complicated thing, and there are two factors that influence the size of wires. First is the technical requirement of being large enough to handle the available current in the system, second is sizing wires based on what people "think" they need to be. With many after market reg/recs, the wires are significantly over sized, not really a problem, but it gives people a feeling that the reg/rec is more powerful, which it is not, charging system power is determined by the stator. Most charging systems are around 400 watts or less, and that means they can provide 30 amps and would require 14 Gauge wire. But many people feel like that is too small so the manufactures will step up to 12 Gauge to add some safety factor and to make people feel better. In the case of using a multi conductor wire like what is used on the MG gauges, you need to consider that those wires are around 26 gauge and that is only suitable for about 1 amp of current in the enclosed arrangement of the multi conductor cable. This is the reason the gauges require using a 1 amp fuse. There is technically no real issue connecting a large wire and a small wire, and normally I would do this using solder and heat shrink. But that means that the circuit needs to have fuse protection at or below the current limit of the smallest wire. In the case of the multi conductor wire, you can use it as long as the total current flow in each conductor is less than 1 amp. If its more than that it will generate too much heat and that can create massive problems, and possibly fires.

[@sandymae23]

You mentioned the the brown wire goes to 12plus switched power. Does this mean that it goes to the battery plus terminal or the Ignition output on the M-Unit Blue?

[@RevivalCycles]

If you're using the m.Unit Blue or Basic Switched power would in this instance be the AUX-1 or AUX-2 output.

[@AlejandroDiaz-so8gl]

Revival Cycles so I have an M-Unit Blue. If I connect the brown wire to the AUX1, would I just need to configure the M-Unit to utilize AUX1? Did you already come out with the config details for the Motoscope Tiny?

[@RevivalCycles]

I should have mentioned it earlier but it slipped my mind, I've posted a diagram in our Tech Articles page outlining how we incorporate the MST gauge into the m.Unit. You can find it in the link below. The M.Unit by default wil activate AUX 1 when the key switch is turned to ON and this configuration can be changed. I don't have any plans to write explanation since the AUX config settings are outlined in the manual. technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016476671-Motoscope-Tiny-With-m-Unit-Wiring-Diagram Hope that helps, -Berry

[@konstantinoskaragiannidis7983]

Hello I would like to know, if there is a tutorial video how to install the magnets with the wheel and setup the system so that we can take the right speed. Thanks

[@RevivalCycles]

We don't have a tutorial for this, there are a lot of different ways to mount the magnet. One of our favorite approaches is to use a magnetic bolt (find them on our site) on the drive sprocket and fabricate a simple bracket to hold the sensor which allows you to hide the set up behind the sprocket cover. Then use the TEACH function outlined in the manual to program the gauge, we use this method on every install regardless of where we mount the sensor.

[@1eevahn]

@Revival: Have you posted another video on configuration? Thanks for all the info.

[@RevivalCycles]

I do not believe we have. But the configuration process follows very similarly to the Chronoclassic, or Motoscope Pro the details for the Tiny are discussed on page 7 of the manual. motogadget.com/shop/media/downloads/manual/mst_manual_en_2.2.pdf

[@mynameis890]

if only it had a coolant temp display. and can you control what pressure the oil pressure warning light comes on? i have a bike that produces a very low oil pressure like less than 15 psi.

[@RevivalCycles]

Agreed on the temp display, but even more baffling is the fact that the motoscope mini doesn't have a voltage readout. Still the oil pressure light is actually controlled by the oil pressure switch on the engine, so it will register the same as the original oil pressure light would.

[@mynameis890]

actually that's the problem, the bike never came with any kind of oil pressure monitor. to check oil pressure. you are supposed to lossen a bolt on the head while its idling, and see if oil seeps out. I wanted to utilize that port to add a gauge. guess I need an oil pressure switch and just have a dummy light.