Mountain Bike Suspension Tuning At Mojo Rising

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Have you ever wondered what goes into an MTB shock tune? Henry took a trip to Mojo Rising to chat to Chris Porter and suspension tech Jack to find out the ups and downs of damper tuning 🔧
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@burkevalli8868
@burkevalli8868 4 жыл бұрын
Dam that seat angle
@cccpkingu
@cccpkingu 4 жыл бұрын
The sonic dip.
@pietynisko8386
@pietynisko8386 4 жыл бұрын
Dam that bar roll
@yungQi
@yungQi Жыл бұрын
climbs well
@th_js
@th_js 4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely my favourite video in quite a long time, PLEASE do more of this!!
@steveedwards5280
@steveedwards5280 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see a conversation about what changes were made to the shim stack and how much, of what affect it might have.
@rupedog
@rupedog 4 жыл бұрын
Banger...love a more detailed edu-edit on how shim stacks work...
@cedriceveleigh
@cedriceveleigh 4 жыл бұрын
Vorsprung has a good video about this, if I remember correctly.
@kasperfriis462
@kasperfriis462 4 жыл бұрын
and I'm here feeling like a wizard after making a few clicks on my rebound :D cool vid
@simonwenzowski9148
@simonwenzowski9148 4 жыл бұрын
Alright this is great content I love this stuff. My dream is to have a setup in my workshop that is equipped to rebuild dampers and eventually get into revalving like this. For the time being I'm going to get some training from the suspension centre.
@aljowen
@aljowen 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find a bike shop in my country that would do a lower leg service on SR Suntours more premium forks, the list of bike shops on their website was a total grave yard. The first 10 on the list had gone out of business at which point I stopped bothering. None of my local bike shops would touch them either because they only did Fox or Rockshox forks (including the shop that sold me the bike), and they didn't know anyone that would work on them. So I didn't really have much choice other than to do it myself or buy new forks. It took me a few goes to get it right the first time, but no damage done. There was large quantities of oil in the lower legs, which came as a big surprise considering that SR Suntour forks don't use oil baths and the forks had never been serviced since new. So I didn't know whether to put oil or grease back in to them. SR Suntour customer support helped me out though, they think that the grease must have separated, and told me to fully disassemble the forks and put new grease in. The forks have been fine ever since.
@meteormedia7021
@meteormedia7021 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing for me in Germany. No shop wants to service my Suntour Auron Boost fork and TriAir rear shock, they all just do Rockshox and Fox. Those god damn elitists even asked me if I wouldn't rather want to "upgrade" my suspension to worse FOX models instead. I'm running pretty much the same setup as Doddy does at 05:20 and it works like a charm, but thanks to the fact that all of my local bike shops are snobs I have to do all the service work myself...
@woduk
@woduk 4 жыл бұрын
Those lower end suntours, are generally coil spring with a basic preload adjustment so would just require a clean inside and the spring re greased etc.
@Pienimusta
@Pienimusta 4 жыл бұрын
Super easy to do it yourself
@aljowen
@aljowen 4 жыл бұрын
Mines an Aion, so it's air sprung. It would have been easy to do, if everything was as expected. But when it's your first time and oil is flowing out the bottom of forks that shouldn't have any in them (outside the damper) , it makes it a bit more difficult. But now that I have fully stripped them down and rebuilt them, if anything goes wrong I feel like I am in a pretty good place to put it right. Especially since I ran in to multiple obscure issues along the way where things didn't do what they were supposed to during disassembly.
@Pienimusta
@Pienimusta 4 жыл бұрын
@@aljowen Well that was a good learning experience on many levels then. You learned that some shopkeepers are full of shit and not suited for the job and also you learnt new skills and more about your suspension.
@CMneilB
@CMneilB Жыл бұрын
Great video. Good to see the insides. Easy to understand the cost of servicing. Also the cost of the shock itself. Such expertise from the country’s best suspension agent.
@thomasphilyaw8593
@thomasphilyaw8593 4 жыл бұрын
Mind blown on shim stacking. Don't think I'm giving that a go. Great video
@andrewcollins867
@andrewcollins867 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is such a good guy I would trust him with my pride and Joy !!! Does that Rhyme? 👍😎🤣
@martinhayes5087
@martinhayes5087 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect Sunday nerdy viewing, just what I needed today 😊
@jeffg3975
@jeffg3975 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content and very informative. I think the “custom tune” is often misunderstood and underrated. Subscribed.
@tubenachos
@tubenachos 4 жыл бұрын
Chris remind me of The Last Samurai
@76projects11
@76projects11 4 жыл бұрын
what a great interview. really useful advice given here.
@nickwatkins5227
@nickwatkins5227 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys you’ve just convinced me to leave this one for my bike mechanic 🧐
@ryansara3398
@ryansara3398 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 15 and I can do a lower leg service on my forks, and adjusting the travel.
@willbennett7107
@willbennett7107 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 15 too can do an air can service on my shock but never tried lower legs is it easy as people make it look 😂
@donchristie420
@donchristie420 4 жыл бұрын
Will Bennett yes
@paulsack9563
@paulsack9563 4 жыл бұрын
Just serviced the suspension on my bike, great video to watch afterwards :)
@hobmarg
@hobmarg 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, loved the detail on the EXT Storia rebuild, those guys are wizards at Mojo.
@willbennett7107
@willbennett7107 4 жыл бұрын
Wooow this is so interesting loving this type of videos the lads it mojo are some sort of geniuses where do they learn it all 😂👍
@mattcucci5490
@mattcucci5490 4 жыл бұрын
You should do more content like this, the tech part was very interesting.
@STV3TA
@STV3TA 4 жыл бұрын
The perfect MTB ASMR video doesn't exsi........
@archetypex65
@archetypex65 4 жыл бұрын
EXT...very impressive heritage. F1, with Lotus. Invented High/Low speed circuits... #wow #extshox 👍👍👍
@Kenny-je2ud
@Kenny-je2ud 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@knott4me561
@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын
What a treat that was .
@badlarry172
@badlarry172 4 жыл бұрын
great upload, love the workshop/factory tour uploads TA
@julianrossi8460
@julianrossi8460 4 жыл бұрын
Woah! A real ute on this set of channels, thought id never see the day!
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this. Thanks!
@5492sparky
@5492sparky 4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting watch.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
14:13 I haven't seen this tool before. is this a custom tool? looks like it.
@sebastianreddan1647
@sebastianreddan1647 4 жыл бұрын
You guys forgot to mention trying different weight oils. Definately a step to try before stuffing around with shim stacks.
@MrCaptainsandwich
@MrCaptainsandwich 4 жыл бұрын
They've got my EXT Storia shock for a service.
@davenonya8854
@davenonya8854 4 жыл бұрын
lol marzocchi your killin me
@stevenparisi
@stevenparisi 4 жыл бұрын
Dig it. Cool episode.
@th_js
@th_js 4 жыл бұрын
Should have shown the whole rebuild in more detail though.
@tonyrgnash
@tonyrgnash 4 жыл бұрын
Morning henry
@madbassist2004
@madbassist2004 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool video
@migatron1
@migatron1 4 жыл бұрын
Are these guys doing Formula forks yet ?
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me where is Tomi Saaranen?
@krzysiu4003
@krzysiu4003 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, would have been good to see how he increased the compression using different shims.
@bbarker5766
@bbarker5766 4 жыл бұрын
If they are similar to motorcycle shocks (which they are actually) most use thicker and thinner shims.
@derman3658
@derman3658 4 жыл бұрын
If you look at the writing on the shop towel, you can see h m and I assume l is there. these are the areas each shim work on. also watch as he takes the previous ones off. this will give you an idea bubt I would say youtube should throw up some videos on it
@renjisama4630
@renjisama4630 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Where did You found that violet fork’s bumbers please ?
@xxMissSummerxx1
@xxMissSummerxx1 4 жыл бұрын
After watching that I think I'll just stick with my hardtail 👍
@archetypex65
@archetypex65 4 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️🙄
@ProgressiveMTB
@ProgressiveMTB 4 жыл бұрын
really need to get my rebound adjustment done asap
@scottburns3476
@scottburns3476 4 жыл бұрын
#askGMBNTech. Hi guys. Great vid, I’m having a problem with my full sus set up and could use some help. I’ve got a specialised Pitch with adjustable front fork and a Fox Float air shock on the rear. I cannot for the life of me get the rebound to slow down on the rear shock. Any advice would be a massive help. Thanks guys love the channel
@MariusTheDude
@MariusTheDude 4 жыл бұрын
#askgmbntech Hello guys, I know that if you lock your front suspension and you hit a bump, you risk damaging it. Does it also apply for the rear shock? Does it matter if its coil or air ? Love the show, keep it up.
@beno9966
@beno9966 4 жыл бұрын
Most lock outs are just closing your slow speed compression, if you hit a big enough bump they should still bypass that, moving the suspension and not damage anything.
@MariusTheDude
@MariusTheDude 4 жыл бұрын
@@beno9966 but how can you tell if your suspension or shock has this option (for example I have a manitou markhor ) ?
@beno9966
@beno9966 4 жыл бұрын
@@MariusTheDude I'm not sure with that specific fork sorry.
@carlstanton2550
@carlstanton2550 4 жыл бұрын
@@MariusTheDude compress it by hand, if it's a complete lockout it shouldn't move at all really, if it has a bit of movement when you compress it, it's more of a "firm" setting to aid climbing, instead of a complete lockout.
@helenmuller8182
@helenmuller8182 4 жыл бұрын
Hello
@jurijrozanec
@jurijrozanec 4 жыл бұрын
If you are sponsored by DT Swiss why don't you use their suspension and droppers?
@downhilldummy8091
@downhilldummy8091 4 жыл бұрын
This video felt like a waste of time while I was watching it.... but I still couldn’t stop. So it must have been good! I think.
@ka81alex
@ka81alex 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely waste of time, like - suspension is for suspend rider. Well, one must say - mostly all of the videos here became a waste of time.
@TheProjectX3
@TheProjectX3 4 жыл бұрын
Sensei of tubes
@willbennett7107
@willbennett7107 4 жыл бұрын
Is this shop open for the public to get shocks serviced if so where is it
@derman3658
@derman3658 4 жыл бұрын
they have a hill for testing on too seemingly
@skfunk4550
@skfunk4550 4 жыл бұрын
Oh i understood none of it, nowt. I do know that i love these smaller type of specialised business run by enthusiasts not corporate
@porbuntauge5555
@porbuntauge5555 4 жыл бұрын
seeing that saddle position makes it so much harder to trust this guys opinion :D
@mat7671
@mat7671 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I couldn't concentrate on that bit cos it disturbed me so much 😁
@ApexHerbivore
@ApexHerbivore 4 жыл бұрын
lol same
@krzysiu4003
@krzysiu4003 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like he's got it set up for steep climbing. When he's descending he's not sitting on it.
@MaxMustermannnnnn
@MaxMustermannnnnn 4 жыл бұрын
I bet the guy is a kama sutra guru too.
@ka81alex
@ka81alex 4 жыл бұрын
Another video kind of - we walk because ... we move our legs forward.
@stoenchu122
@stoenchu122 4 жыл бұрын
High end shop pumping the IFP with air instead of NO2...
@knott4me561
@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын
Not all systems require nitrogen especially at low psi like that one
@knott4me561
@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын
Nitrogen just has less moisture in there than air so with such low psi required there it really doesn't matter
@itsdiscopete
@itsdiscopete 4 жыл бұрын
Still clueless.....
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