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Stuntpegg, Bhavs & Sam Obaseki join Smithy and Joe this week on Saturday Social. Ahead of the huge super Sunday clash between Chelsea and Arsenal, we ask our guests a number or true or false statements about the two London clubs, and get them to decide.
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[@Listtall]

Came to watch some good footballing debate, stayed for the most outrageous Chelsea biased takes from Sam

[@camerondavies8442]

Ruined the vid with that delusion ngl

[@dasurmel1424]

well the issue is at best 1 or 2 question were up for debate and if you dont have one true and one false they tend to not debate anymore.

[@johnzola1117]

The Arsenal guys worse bro😅

[@raidenafc6576]

@@johnzola1117 so you believe Chelsea are winning the league ? What are we doing.

[@ryanrazza17izGod]

The arsenal guy said Ben white was a better footballer than Reece James lmao. Both crazy

[@thefutbolfollower8326]

Just when you think Sam Obasaki’s takes on Chelsea can’t get worse, it does.

[@12thMandalorian]

i think he is right tbf, Arsenal always bottle it

[@thefutbolfollower8326]

@@12thMandalorian Chelsea are more likely to get relegated than win the league in the next 10 years with the way they are heading, it doesn’t matter if Arsenal are good or not at that point. Besides, I’m pretty sure Pep’s leaving in ‘25 (I think Man City will have a similar first season to Man U’s 13/14 after Pep leaves) which will give Arsenal an opportunity to snatch it in ‘26.

[@Yaqoot]

​@@12thMandalorian If Chelsea still had Abramovic and Arsenal were still in the late Wenger days, then this opinion would make sense. "bottling" isn't a supernatural energy, once you have different players, a different manager and a different structure in the club then what came before that doesn't matter. People said the exact same thing about Liverpool until 2019, then they won everything

[@antekordic]

@WeluvFootballTV The had the best start in their history ( something they won't and havne't replicated ), 242 or w/e days on top, 8 points lead with game in hand and they failed to win the league. That's textbook definition of bottling it or caving under pressure. A team that nver played a champions league ( most players haven't ) and have entered a serial losing mentality are gonna win the league before players that won World cups, CL's? Nice joke buddy

[@LoyalFan9383]

@@antekordicchelsea have literally changed their squad to a bunch of kids, their squad is even younger than Arsenal so if anything everything you said said applies to Chelsea exponentially

[@GrandpaVince]

This is a really tricky one. Rice has played really well and caicedo hasn't done much. So I'll go with caicedo.

[@MFDOOOOOOM]

Sam logic

[@onamiofficial]

there's some logic too : you're Arsenal fan and you never watched Caicedo

[@ashl3y_078]

@@onamiofficialyou genuinely think Caicedo has been better than Rice💀

[@onamiofficial]

@@ashl3y_078 okay let's see later which players better 💀

[@thegoatsnake5392]

@@onamiofficial dont go anywhere

[@Mak_Vintage]

Allowing Sam Obaseki take this nonsense from Football Daily all the way to Sky is a terrible decision.

[@finfog4590]

It’s a side step

[@Mak_Vintage]

@@finfog4590 😂😂🤣😅🤣😂

[@no.fourteen9316]

Allowing this show to replace Soccer AM is an even worse decision

[@amarmetla3565]

It would be nice for Sam to accidentally say something that makes sense. Just one time.

[@HGT787]

@@amarmetla3565but you have no problem about Saliba having a better career than Thiago Silva?

[@theomen826]

At this point in time? Is this actually a question

[@loooooooooooooooooool126]

Rice

[@Mr.LevelUp.]

@@loooooooooooooooooool126 Caicedo

[@NITRIXs.]

Frrr

[@O7FTBL]

Cashedo is overrated, overhyped and overpriced

[@vidu635]

@@O7FTBLas is basmati rice

[@ellin3809]

why is this even a question lmao 💀💀💀

[@samcourtenay5595]

Man said he got a red card and he’s learnt from it - so he’s better and has a higher ceiling😂 no one besides Chelsea fans thinks Caicedo is better than Rice

[@youtube_user4]

These guys are just supporting their teams instead of actually speaking the truth

[@ezekielnwosu1462]

And it's stupid

[@carter3369]

That’s what all football fans do, that’s why videos like this are so pointless.

[@play4dc]

Stuntpegg is an excellent addition to the show. Well thought out and unbiased takes.

[@rkerry01]

She’s always been class one of my favs

[@theach84]

She is amazing and what a name. Stuntpegg😊

[@fullydavid]

Any time someone says about a player "they can only improve", they're wrong. Many don't - and tonnes of players don't live up to their potential. Which is why the finished article like Rice is undeniably a better buy right now than Caicedo.

[@elypsemusic8042]

Underrated point .. There are more 100 million flops than Casemiro red cards 😂

[@mi318s]

Agree but one point. Rice is not a finished article, rn he's evolving at Arsenal and will get better to become one of the most complete CM/DM in the world.

[@fullydavid]

@@mi318s - true, more a 'safe bet' than a finished article - given he's done it for several seasons. Rice can only improve ;)

[@ShutThePuck]

One only has to look at how Rice immediately fitted into Arsenal's midfield and has has been their best player in many games. That's what a £100m signing is supposed to look like, no nonsense about potential and speculation as to what they could do under x manager.

[@adamknights1478]

How is this woman talking more sense than these man

[@Christopher_J]

Stuntpegg has come along way and may the footballing journey continue. Refreshing to hear solid unbiased takes!!

[@mujeebahmed7940]

Is this actually a serious question? Rice is clear!

[@mujeebahmed7940]

Also that lady saying sterling will outscore saka is outrageous 😳

[@ShutThePuck]

Chelsea fans are massively insecure right now, huffing copium like the plane is going down.

[@rkerry01]

@@mujeebahmed7940she’s not though sterling is where Chelsea will get their goals this season

[@Demi876]

Rice is clear in ball carrying thats it

[@jdf2100]

@@Demi876 and scoring, passing, tacking 😂 literally nobody even knows who caceido is

[@tardaboveall491a]

Stuntpegg has been one of the best football analysts on KZbin for a number of years. Great to see her in shows like this. More of her.

[@raidenafc6576]

I get banter from time to time but I actually can’t stand fans like Sam. Just be truthful g what are we doing. And you can see he genuinely believes his own waffle.

[@jaydenmackay9303]

You could ask Sam whether Werner to Chelsea was better than CR7 to Madrid and he'd tell you Werner to Chelsea was the better move.

[@miswardi938]

stuntpegg giving tribute to wenger is a clear indication she knows ball so much better than sam

[@stephencrowley3503]

Defo rice not even close

[@mrclegg123]

That chelsea fans answer for the first question is just waffle 😅😅😅

[@adamknights1478]

Honestly man. Absolute dribble from the lad

[@okaydaf5205]

Until your lads prove him wrong, your comment is as much of a waffle as his answer😅. It is been 20 years since Arsenal last won, it has been 7 years since Chelsea last won. In the last 7 years, the only time Arsenal finished above Chelsea was last season where you bottled the league. Finishing 2nd after having lead at the top with 8 points until the last 8 games or so is no testament of a potential winner. Win it first and then you can claim you have a better chance

[@IrishGuysScarf]

@@okaydaf5205Looks like you don’t understand the question either. It’s not about winning it outright, it’s about having a better chance of winning because if we did win it then there is no point in the question being asked.

[@IrishGuysScarf]

@@okaydaf5205Also, Chelsea won all their EPL’s in the Abramovich era, that time is long gone.

[@okaydaf5205]

@@IrishGuysScarf I understand the question clearly. Sam's answer was based on his own biased fan view just as much as the original comment and yours. Sam is looking at it from Chelsea's track record of always bouncing back from a proven worse season to win something major the next season (2016, 2021) You and the original comment point of view is based on Arsenal's performance last season. Both are valid in the sense that at least they are based on something both clubs have shown. If you believe what he is saying is waffle, then the same can be said about your comment and the original comment. This is also the reason why i said until Arsenal have won and proven Sam wrong to think Chelsea would win the league before Arsenal, no one can actually claim he is wrong to say what he said.

[@scott2222]

Sam just chats waffle

[@Mak_Vintage]

Mourinho legacy over Wenger? Can we never have Sam on this show again?

[@NaheedMan]

There is bias and there is delusion

[@NaheedMan]

@@JonasRodgers not sure what you understand by "legacy" mate... Wenger will always be remembered as someone who not just tranformed Arsenal but in many ways the Premier league....Not sure Mourinho will be quite be remembered as that anywhere...

[@anthonyiyere866]

The lady is very intelligent! She supports her choices with smart reasons!

[@Jay-gz6sk]

Sam really is just terrible. The constant 'hot takes' especially around his beloved chelsea are baffling. Havent even watched it but i can guarantee he'll be giving opinions throughout that will make your head spin😅I tried to give the dude the benefit of the doubt, but i just cant listen to his constant drivel. He does not know ball at all. It really is like he doesnt even watch anyone outside of chelsea and even then, in his mind? Theyre somehow the same quality as when lamps, terry and didier were in their pomp🤦‍♂️How hes managed to land a gig at Football Daily, let alone recurring spots on Sky is BEYOND me😂Ill skip this one lads, cheers.

[@Afg11234]

Listen rice has been the new powerhouse to arsenals midfield we know the difference without him and we saw that against Tottenham.

[@Fmfcg]

Fred was better than Caicedo

[@Amzyy]

Fred is a baller on his day

[@Catalan-gods_NewWorldOrder]

Fred?? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@LoyalFan9383]

@@Amzyyso

[@mardanhar82]

Thats like comparing Maguire to Ferdinand or Terry 😅

[@Demi876]

Have you seen the clip of caicedo chucking Fred over😂

[@devanshubharadwaj]

Chelsea Must be paying insane money to Sam for all this 😢

[@couturecriminal8330]

Nah he has nervous energy and he has improved in public debates even as a fellow fan he say things which are true but he says more out of clear thought than passion.

[@impy1980]

Do we even have to ask that, given Caicedo has been shocked, lapses in concentration, given balls away cheaply, some costing a goal.

[@s92alpha8]

Did you just watch the West Ham game or?

[@vincew3377]

Sounds like you only watched 1-2 games with Caicedo. He’s been great lately.

[@adam01101]

Guy in blue doesn't know anything and keeps talking over Stuntpegg it's very frustrating.

[@ReidGameX]

More stuntpegg please, for so many reasons.

[@sayandeb6459]

What other reasons for being beautiful 😂

[@aaronfrancis134]

“Look what we’ve achieved in the last 3 weeks” 😂😂😂 Embarrassing

[@danielmcdonald8312]

this is the same content every week. There are 20 teams in the league

[@hellothere4045]

Both are overpriced but Rice is more Prem proven and less injury prone so him.

[@guyincognito8437]

​@anleneverdie51177 years ago, champ. 😂

[@Ian-iy9ht]

Caicedo has only been injured once 😂 (he was out for 20 days lol)

[@RP12343]

If Rice is overpriced, name one player bought for less than £100m this summer who Arsenal could have bought instead. That’s the market rate

[@anubis8918]

​@@RP12343that doesn't change the fact that he's overpriced. Smh

[@RP12343]

So you agree that’s the market rate but he’s still overpriced? 🤦‍♂️

[@Withcare11]

I am not a fan of Chelsea, but even I want to congratulate them on their renaissance and return to the elite of world football. Three games won on 'the bounce''.

[@haikelnerd]

This women literally said you can't predict potential of Saliba but find it hard because she feels 'Enzo' has a higher ceiling potential...

[@osasueghaghe4040]

The lady is smarter and knows football better than those two guys combined.

[@12thMandalorian]

This was not even a healthy debate it was just an Arsenal fan and a Chelsea fan being biased about their own players

[@prettyboyonline]

Lmao man said don’t sleep on Cole Palmer

[@brunolondinese5857]

Costing over £100m is all that was required of Caicedo. If Chelsea were interested in producing performances, theres no reason they can't do it

[@florme6494]

As a Chelsea Fan, I’d take Rice. He has always been my dream signing. I think he is so much better than people give him credit for. To have a player to help out in both boxes on crosses as well is very much an asset which Caicedo will never offer. Rice’s leadership and personality injected in to a team is also well underrated. Defensively in open play I do rate them about the same. Build up, same. I rate Caicedo’s move to a big club much sooner as an advantage of potentially having bigger career. But Rice plays for England which has given him that big game experience with world class players.

[@KaiSaeren]

The moment I saw Oba is here I knew it was going to be good :D I love how Joe just looks at him right after the first question knowingly :D I love you Oba but god damn dude, you gotta learn to temper your takes at this point :D

[@curmpet]

get stuntpegg on with james lawrence allcott! and flav

[@jeewa7114]

Not an arsenal fan but this shouldn't even be a question

[@Amir-lo1sq]

The fact this is still a question is quite mad 😂😂

[@danwaters4139]

Reece James is LEVELS above White lol Comparing Saliba to Silva is absolutely SHAMELESS

[@EricusXIV]

Agree Reece is better than White, and Silva is no way near Saliba at this point in time.

[@deepu14693]

Jesus and Zinch have 4 EPLs each and loads of domestic cups Havertz and Jorginho have UCL and Jorginho has a Euro. Chelsea have 2 people from that UCL winning team, Arsenal have two of them too. More important ones surely.

[@tylerbrizzyfelix9606]

Chelsea has 4 people..chiwell,James,Silva,chalobah

[@odez982]

the chelsea fan forgets that Jesus and Zinchenko have been winning titles with Man city.

[@Emzy17]

That were bought😂

[@Zzzzzzzz390]

They were bench warmers

[@Pedrogonzales1464]

Rice is clear of that fraud

[@Cbart23]

Rice. End of video.

[@Cbart23]

These people don’t know football.

[@dwayne5064]

“what I waffling” 🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧

[@Chr15Payne]

1:23 what is bruv even saying he contradicted himself twice

[@herbertgomez3950]

My friend availability is key when comes to Ben and James 😋 looking Ben white from defense to CB is just amazing 😂😂

[@shambhav8890]

The Chelsea fan chatted rubbish for about 15 mins in a 18 mins video.

[@thztan7492]

Who is the name of the girl? I think i saw her football review video o youtube but forget her name

[@GB-fk7eq]

Nieve... adding legitimacy to this lot..

[@amarzulic4255]

Sam is actually a pretty smart dude as long as you don't ask him Chelsea questions!

[@MwangiKamuru]

the fact that Caicedo cost 115m, he should be doing wonders at Chelsea, Declan at 105m is performing waaay better than him

[@S0L12D3]

This isn’t even a discussion 😂

[@TheAshman89]

1:32 ummm... we have Jesus and Zin who have won multiple prems, we have rice who won a European trophy. Chelsea have Enzo, Sterling (from the top of my head)... like you have a manager who just about won the French league with an op squad and no rivals 😂

[@ayk4373]

Saying Mourinho has a great Legacy than Wenger in the Premier League is ridiculous. I think he was hooked on the idea of who's the best manager, and not on the question of Legacy. Legacy is clearly Wenger.

[@haikelnerd]

Sky please stop calling this Sam guy. He is the most deluded Chelsea Fan alive. Sincerely a chelsea fan

[@natnaelarwaga6100]

"What we've achieved over the last few weeks" 😂😂. This guy can't be serious. Is Boehly paying him or something because no sane person can have a take like that.

[@clova1311]

15:27 aint no way hes gone and said "no we're not"

[@christophersmith5606]

Is this really a serious question ? Where on earth do they get these people ?

[@simondewhurst1781]

Reece James vs Ben White is not even close. Ones the best RB in the world on his day and the other is Ben bang average White…

[@vincew3377]

The obvious answer is Rice right now. But it also seems like a lot of people havent watched Caicedos games since the WH red card. Caicedo has been really good since then.

[@asamakulaikum9910]

Honestly, there is no point in bringing in „experts“ who support one club and then base all of the questions on those teams, because clearly they are only going to show how much they support their own teams.

[@brandonmacleod1058]

It’s got to me Mourinho though both have same amount of Orem titles and compare the time in the league

[@TheRuwan87]

I don't know what her name, but she is really smart and know her football 👊

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

How is this even a question

[@joshdias4966]

Let's be clear. The premier League wouldn't be the environment it is today with sir Alex or Wenger. A league without Jose wouldn't be any different

[@ronz8512]

Jose innovated the lone 9 role with drogba. He changed the way managers and clubs view football. It no longer was enough to win a league with 80pts, you had to get 90+. Wenger helped shape the behind the scenes of the way clubs manage players but Jose created his legacy where it matters. On the pitch

[@andrewg3768]

So Jesus and Zinchenko haven't won the Premier league title? So Jorgiinho hasn't won a Champions League? Has Rice not won the Conference League? Ødegaard played at Real Madrid!

[@relaxreal4674]

No one worth 100m, but Rice is way more expensive than caisedo

[@blasisiagiri]

Chelsea acting like they won 3 games in the premier league on the bounce - I'm sure one of them was in the league cup

[@couturecriminal8330]

Yeah what happened when they destroyed Arsenal...

[@Cruzer11]

Does Sam have a YT channel?

[@isaacnewton3514]

Jose Mourinho has been sacked FOUR times in the Premier League. He’s a legend but Arsene has a better PL legacy.

[@user-px3tm7dm5h]

Congrats bhvass now I understand why you not been posting

[@kevinjenkins6657]

That Chelsea supporter is terribly biased, Chelsea are improving but are very much a project. Despite the money spent, I don't see them winning anything until next season minimum. UCL this season for their players would be good, but not considering money spent. That guy should get his head checked out, he's talking about the Chelsea squad like it's the City Treble winning squad.

[@Lifeofpi531]

Stuntpegg was class here, Sam on the other hand thoo 😬

[@paulgeggie3684]

Does Sam do work for Chelsea like zach so they are not allowed to say anything negative about Chelsea

[@brownmoney27]

Ah, i get it, sam is chelseas ty

[@suavemasky]

The utilities of Ben White are underrated. He plays everywhere in the defense.

[@eamp27]

Agreed, still not better than James though.

[@Wren371]

@@eamp27James is always injured though

[@mileslaw]

How is this even a question atm?

[@hughleigh3959]

How is this even a question?

[@joshhamer5076]

As a Chelsea fan it’s clearly rice but what I would say last year caicedo was 20 turning 21 and was one of the best midfielders in the league. Rice at that age was a good player but caicedo is better compared to rice at that age. I can see caicedo being better in 2-3 years. But it’s if and buts, ultimately rice has made arsenal go to the next level

[@Demi876]

I honestly think caicedo is the better dm

[@darraghryan5599]

It’s shows like this that is the problem with the modern game

[@Kopite96]

How can you even compare them both when Caicedo has been injured? 😂

[@zees9444]

2 of them are actually thinking about there answers that’s Chelsea just disagrees with everything anyone says… shows maturity levels

[@liberalslayer7220]

These people need to check the stats of the matches before making statements like arsenal have created more chances than Chelsea it’s not even close. The player comparison is dominated by the Chelsea players except for the chances scored. Cancedo had no match fitness for the start of the season and has been solid in the last three games. Enzo is a galactico in the making. Chelsea will dominate today and win by 2 goals.

[@LiamsFriendStewie]

The people in the comments haven't watched Chelsea and it shows. The amount of people acting like Caicedo hasn't played well... Okay, you've not seen Chelsea play. It's THAT simple. Argue with yourselves. 🤣

[@samwisethegreat23]

Is the chelsea guy for real?

[@Withcare11]

Wouldnt Rice V Pasta be more of a debate?

[@harshg1536]

These ceiling questions are so dead...Like 90% players dont reach their ceiling

[@enemywithin1295]

Geezer at the start saying it's been 20 years since Arsenal won the PL. Chelsea won it in 2005, and the last time they won top flight silverware before that was 1955.

[@gooner_duke2756]

And won their first trophy after 27 years in 97' when they won the fa cup...6 times relegated to our zero times... but hey, you only count the last 20 years when it comes to Chelsea 😁

[@Cbart23]

Founded 2003.

[@ChubbyMW]

Sam and Rory are the worst Chelsea fans to have on this Saturday social.

[@touchlinetv3024]

silly question. one has done nonsense for two games. one has won games for his side

[@big_man_on_the_scene]

why is bro yapping about man city when the question was about chelsea and arsenal

[@gibsonokindi2261]

Reece is a better right back Ben is the better player. He can play more than just the right back position. Plus he is better physically equipped, he can play 90 mins in 60 games. Do you think Reece is consistent enough to be relied upon

[@thelevelupcommunity]

I’m not even watching vid.. it’s RICE simple.

[@mazeika17]

Declan Rice has obviously been the better signing but as a Liverpool fan I’d still take Caicedo if it was between the two