MOURINHO vs WENGER: Who Has The GREATER Premier League Legacy? 👀 | Saturday Social

[@GrandpaVince]

This is a really tricky one. Rice has played really well and caicedo hasn't done much. So I'll go with caicedo.

[@MFDOOOOOOM]

Sam logic

[@onamiofficial]

there's some logic too : you're Arsenal fan and you never watched Caicedo

[@ashl3y_078]

@@onamiofficialyou genuinely think Caicedo has been better than Rice💀

[@onamiofficial]

@@ashl3y_078 okay let's see later which players better 💀

[@thegoatsnake5392]

@@onamiofficial dont go anywhere

[@Listtall]

Came to watch some good footballing debate, stayed for the most outrageous Chelsea biased takes from Sam

[@camerondavies8442]

Ruined the vid with that delusion ngl

[@dasurmel1424]

well the issue is at best 1 or 2 question were up for debate and if you dont have one true and one false they tend to not debate anymore.

[@johnzola1117]

The Arsenal guys worse bro😅

[@razzinho17]

The arsenal guy said Ben white was a better footballer than Reece James lmao. Both crazy

[@johnzola1117]

@raidenafc6576 how can you even entertain Ben white being at all close to Reece James?

[@thefutbolfollower8326]

Just when you think Sam Obasaki’s takes on Chelsea can’t get worse, it does.

[@12thMandalorian]

i think he is right tbf, Arsenal always bottle it

[@thefutbolfollower8326]

@@12thMandalorian Chelsea are more likely to get relegated than win the league in the next 10 years with the way they are heading, it doesn’t matter if Arsenal are good or not at that point. Besides, I’m pretty sure Pep’s leaving in ‘25 (I think Man City will have a similar first season to Man U’s 13/14 after Pep leaves) which will give Arsenal an opportunity to snatch it in ‘26.

[@Yaqoot]

​@@12thMandalorian If Chelsea still had Abramovic and Arsenal were still in the late Wenger days, then this opinion would make sense. "bottling" isn't a supernatural energy, once you have different players, a different manager and a different structure in the club then what came before that doesn't matter. People said the exact same thing about Liverpool until 2019, then they won everything

[@antekordic]

@WeluvFootballTV The had the best start in their history ( something they won't and havne't replicated ), 242 or w/e days on top, 8 points lead with game in hand and they failed to win the league. That's textbook definition of bottling it or caving under pressure. A team that nver played a champions league ( most players haven't ) and have entered a serial losing mentality are gonna win the league before players that won World cups, CL's? Nice joke buddy

[@LoyalFan9383]

@@antekordicchelsea have literally changed their squad to a bunch of kids, their squad is even younger than Arsenal so if anything everything you said said applies to Chelsea exponentially

[@theomen826]

At this point in time? Is this actually a question

[@loooooooooooooooooool126]

Rice

[@Mr.LevelUp.]

@@loooooooooooooooooool126 Caicedo

[@NITRIXs.]

Frrr

[@O7FTBL]

Cashedo is overrated, overhyped and overpriced

[@vidu635]

@@O7FTBLas is basmati rice

[@Mak_Vintage]

Allowing Sam Obaseki take this nonsense from Football Daily all the way to Sky is a terrible decision.

[@finfog4590]

It’s a side step

[@Mak_Vintage]

@@finfog4590 😂😂🤣😅🤣😂

[@no.fourteen9316]

Allowing this show to replace Soccer AM is an even worse decision

[@amarmetla3565]

It would be nice for Sam to accidentally say something that makes sense. Just one time.

[@HGT787]

@@amarmetla3565but you have no problem about Saliba having a better career than Thiago Silva?

[@samcourtenay5595]

Man said he got a red card and he’s learnt from it - so he’s better and has a higher ceiling😂 no one besides Chelsea fans thinks Caicedo is better than Rice

[@ze_mumbie]

These guys are just supporting their teams instead of actually speaking the truth

[@ezekielnwosu1462]

And it's stupid

[@carter3369]

That’s what all football fans do, that’s why videos like this are so pointless.

[@ellin3809]

why is this even a question lmao 💀💀💀

[@play4dc]

Stuntpegg is an excellent addition to the show. Well thought out and unbiased takes.

[@Damn-Sandwich]

She’s always been class one of my favs

[@theach84]

She is amazing and what a name. Stuntpegg😊

[@Christopher_J]

Stuntpegg has come along way and may the footballing journey continue. Refreshing to hear solid unbiased takes!!

[@DetBareMikkel]

Stuntpegg has been one of the best football analysts on KZbin for a number of years. Great to see her in shows like this. More of her.

[@Maj1794]

Is this actually a serious question? Rice is clear!

[@Maj1794]

Also that lady saying sterling will outscore saka is outrageous 😳

[@ShutThePuck]

Chelsea fans are massively insecure right now, huffing copium like the plane is going down.

[@Damn-Sandwich]

@@Maj1794she’s not though sterling is where Chelsea will get their goals this season

[@Demi876]

Rice is clear in ball carrying thats it

[@jdf2100]

@@Demi876 and scoring, passing, tacking 😂 literally nobody even knows who caceido is

[@jaydenmackay9303]

You could ask Sam whether Werner to Chelsea was better than CR7 to Madrid and he'd tell you Werner to Chelsea was the better move.

[@Afg11234]

Listen rice has been the new powerhouse to arsenals midfield we know the difference without him and we saw that against Tottenham.

[@stephencrowley3503]

Defo rice not even close

[@Fmfcg]

Fred was better than Caicedo

[@Amzyy]

Fred is a baller on his day

[@Catalan012]

Fred?? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@LoyalFan9383]

@@Amzyyso

[@mardanhar82]

Thats like comparing Maguire to Ferdinand or Terry 😅

[@Demi876]

Have you seen the clip of caicedo chucking Fred over😂

[@adamknights1478]

How is this woman talking more sense than these man

[@miswardi938]

stuntpegg giving tribute to wenger is a clear indication she knows ball so much better than sam

[@osasueghaghe4040]

The lady is smarter and knows football better than those two guys combined.

[@anthonyiyere866]

The lady is very intelligent! She supports her choices with smart reasons!

[@impy1980]

Do we even have to ask that, given Caicedo has been shocked, lapses in concentration, given balls away cheaply, some costing a goal.

[@s92alpha8]

Did you just watch the West Ham game or?

[@vincew3377]

Sounds like you only watched 1-2 games with Caicedo. He’s been great lately.

[@Mak_Vintage]

Mourinho legacy over Wenger? Can we never have Sam on this show again?

[@NaheedMan]

There is bias and there is delusion

[@NaheedMan]

@@JonasRodgers not sure what you understand by "legacy" mate... Wenger will always be remembered as someone who not just tranformed Arsenal but in many ways the Premier league....Not sure Mourinho will be quite be remembered as that anywhere...

[@hellothere4045]

Both are overpriced but Rice is more Prem proven and less injury prone so him.

[@guyincognito8437]

​@anleneverdie51177 years ago, champ. 😂

[@Ian-iy9ht]

Caicedo has only been injured once 😂 (he was out for 20 days lol)

[@RP12343]

If Rice is overpriced, name one player bought for less than £100m this summer who Arsenal could have bought instead. That’s the market rate

[@anubis8918]

​@@RP12343that doesn't change the fact that he's overpriced. Smh

[@RP12343]

So you agree that’s the market rate but he’s still overpriced? 🤦‍♂️

[@devanshubharadwaj]

Chelsea Must be paying insane money to Sam for all this 😢

[@couturecriminal8330]

Nah he has nervous energy and he has improved in public debates even as a fellow fan he say things which are true but he says more out of clear thought than passion.

[@florme6494]

As a Chelsea Fan, I’d take Rice. He has always been my dream signing. I think he is so much better than people give him credit for. To have a player to help out in both boxes on crosses as well is very much an asset which Caicedo will never offer. Rice’s leadership and personality injected in to a team is also well underrated. Defensively in open play I do rate them about the same. Build up, same. I rate Caicedo’s move to a big club much sooner as an advantage of potentially having bigger career. But Rice plays for England which has given him that big game experience with world class players.

[@mrclegg123]

That chelsea fans answer for the first question is just waffle 😅😅😅

[@adamknights1478]

Honestly man. Absolute dribble from the lad

[@okaydaf5205]

Until your lads prove him wrong, your comment is as much of a waffle as his answer😅. It is been 20 years since Arsenal last won, it has been 7 years since Chelsea last won. In the last 7 years, the only time Arsenal finished above Chelsea was last season where you bottled the league. Finishing 2nd after having lead at the top with 8 points until the last 8 games or so is no testament of a potential winner. Win it first and then you can claim you have a better chance

[@IrishGuysScarf]

@@okaydaf5205Looks like you don’t understand the question either. It’s not about winning it outright, it’s about having a better chance of winning because if we did win it then there is no point in the question being asked.

[@IrishGuysScarf]

@@okaydaf5205Also, Chelsea won all their EPL’s in the Abramovich era, that time is long gone.

[@okaydaf5205]

@@IrishGuysScarf I understand the question clearly. Sam's answer was based on his own biased fan view just as much as the original comment and yours. Sam is looking at it from Chelsea's track record of always bouncing back from a proven worse season to win something major the next season (2016, 2021) You and the original comment point of view is based on Arsenal's performance last season. Both are valid in the sense that at least they are based on something both clubs have shown. If you believe what he is saying is waffle, then the same can be said about your comment and the original comment. This is also the reason why i said until Arsenal have won and proven Sam wrong to think Chelsea would win the league before Arsenal, no one can actually claim he is wrong to say what he said.

[@Withcare11]

I am not a fan of Chelsea, but even I want to congratulate them on their renaissance and return to the elite of world football. Three games won on 'the bounce''.

[@scott2222]

Sam just chats waffle

[@ReidGameX]

More stuntpegg please, for so many reasons.

[@sayandeb6459]

What other reasons for being beautiful 😂

[@haikelnerd]

This women literally said you can't predict potential of Saliba but find it hard because she feels 'Enzo' has a higher ceiling potential...

[@12thMandalorian]

This was not even a healthy debate it was just an Arsenal fan and a Chelsea fan being biased about their own players

[@TheRuwan87]

I don't know what her name, but she is really smart and know her football 👊

[@deepu14693]

Jesus and Zinch have 4 EPLs each and loads of domestic cups Havertz and Jorginho have UCL and Jorginho has a Euro. Chelsea have 2 people from that UCL winning team, Arsenal have two of them too. More important ones surely.

[@tylerbrizzyfelix9606]

Chelsea has 4 people..chiwell,James,Silva,chalobah

[@brunolondinese5857]

Costing over £100m is all that was required of Caicedo. If Chelsea were interested in producing performances, theres no reason they can't do it

[@adam01101]

Guy in blue doesn't know anything and keeps talking over Stuntpegg it's very frustrating.

[@curmpet]

get stuntpegg on with james lawrence allcott! and flav

[@MwangiKamuru]

the fact that Caicedo cost 115m, he should be doing wonders at Chelsea, Declan at 105m is performing waaay better than him

[@aaronfrancis134]

“Look what we’ve achieved in the last 3 weeks” 😂😂😂 Embarrassing

[@danielmcdonald8312]

this is the same content every week. There are 20 teams in the league

[@haikelnerd]

Sky please stop calling this Sam guy. He is the most deluded Chelsea Fan alive. Sincerely a chelsea fan

[@joshdias4966]

Let's be clear. The premier League wouldn't be the environment it is today with sir Alex or Wenger. A league without Jose wouldn't be any different

[@ronz8512]

Jose innovated the lone 9 role with drogba. He changed the way managers and clubs view football. It no longer was enough to win a league with 80pts, you had to get 90+. Wenger helped shape the behind the scenes of the way clubs manage players but Jose created his legacy where it matters. On the pitch

[@Jay-gz6sk]

Sam really is just terrible. The constant 'hot takes' especially around his beloved chelsea are baffling. Havent even watched it but i can guarantee he'll be giving opinions throughout that will make your head spin😅I tried to give the dude the benefit of the doubt, but i just cant listen to his constant drivel. He does not know ball at all. It really is like he doesnt even watch anyone outside of chelsea and even then, in his mind? Theyre somehow the same quality as when lamps, terry and didier were in their pomp🤦‍♂️How hes managed to land a gig at Football Daily, let alone recurring spots on Sky is BEYOND me😂Ill skip this one lads, cheers.

[@jeewa7114]

Not an arsenal fan but this shouldn't even be a question

[@DLE360]

Saying Mourinho has a great Legacy than Wenger in the Premier League is ridiculous. I think he was hooked on the idea of who's the best manager, and not on the question of Legacy. Legacy is clearly Wenger.

[@GB-fk7eq]

Nieve... adding legitimacy to this lot..

[@odez982]

the chelsea fan forgets that Jesus and Zinchenko have been winning titles with Man city.

[@Tsy172]

That were bought😂

[@Zzzzzzzz390]

They were bench warmers

[@darraghryan5599]

It’s shows like this that is the problem with the modern game

[@thztan7492]

Who is the name of the girl? I think i saw her football review video o youtube but forget her name

[@danwaters4139]

Reece James is LEVELS above White lol Comparing Saliba to Silva is absolutely SHAMELESS

[@EricusXIV]

Agree Reece is better than White, and Silva is no way near Saliba at this point in time.

[@simondewhurst1781]

Reece James vs Ben White is not even close. Ones the best RB in the world on his day and the other is Ben bang average White…

[@KaiSaeren]

The moment I saw Oba is here I knew it was going to be good :D I love how Joe just looks at him right after the first question knowingly :D I love you Oba but god damn dude, you gotta learn to temper your takes at this point :D

[@Cbart23]

Rice. End of video.

[@relaxreal4674]

No one worth 100m, but Rice is way more expensive than caisedo

[@andrewg3768]

So Jesus and Zinchenko haven't won the Premier league title? So Jorgiinho hasn't won a Champions League? Has Rice not won the Conference League? Ødegaard played at Real Madrid!

[@shambhav8890]

The Chelsea fan chatted rubbish for about 15 mins in a 18 mins video.

[@TheAshman89]

1:32 ummm... we have Jesus and Zin who have won multiple prems, we have rice who won a European trophy. Chelsea have Enzo, Sterling (from the top of my head)... like you have a manager who just about won the French league with an op squad and no rivals 😂

[@suavemasky]

The utilities of Ben White are underrated. He plays everywhere in the defense.

[@eamp27]

Agreed, still not better than James though.

[@DenTy204]

@@eamp27James is always injured though

[@paulgeggie3684]

Does Sam do work for Chelsea like zach so they are not allowed to say anything negative about Chelsea

[@amarzulic4255]

Sam is actually a pretty smart dude as long as you don't ask him Chelsea questions!

[@isaacnewton3514]

Jose Mourinho has been sacked FOUR times in the Premier League. He’s a legend but Arsene has a better PL legacy.

[@enemywithin1295]

Geezer at the start saying it's been 20 years since Arsenal won the PL. Chelsea won it in 2005, and the last time they won top flight silverware before that was 1955.

[@gooner_duke2756]

And won their first trophy after 27 years in 97' when they won the fa cup...6 times relegated to our zero times... but hey, you only count the last 20 years when it comes to Chelsea 😁

[@Cbart23]

Founded 2003.

[@Chr15Payne]

1:23 what is bruv even saying he contradicted himself twice

[@vincew3377]

The obvious answer is Rice right now. But it also seems like a lot of people havent watched Caicedos games since the WH red card. Caicedo has been really good since then.

[@leeumile5262]

Chelsea don't move progressively, Pochettino said this isn't Arsenal playing 6 years out of UCL, Chelsea fall and get back up to it again. Arsenal are bottlers 15 points ahead last season only for city to catch up.

[@raya7052]

When were they ever 15 points ahead?

[@mazeika17]

Declan Rice has obviously been the better signing but as a Liverpool fan I’d still take Caicedo if it was between the two

[@kevinjenkins6657]

That Chelsea supporter is terribly biased, Chelsea are improving but are very much a project. Despite the money spent, I don't see them winning anything until next season minimum. UCL this season for their players would be good, but not considering money spent. That guy should get his head checked out, he's talking about the Chelsea squad like it's the City Treble winning squad.

[@jah5076]

As a Chelsea fan it’s clearly rice but what I would say last year caicedo was 20 turning 21 and was one of the best midfielders in the league. Rice at that age was a good player but caicedo is better compared to rice at that age. I can see caicedo being better in 2-3 years. But it’s if and buts, ultimately rice has made arsenal go to the next level

[@Demi876]

I honestly think caicedo is the better dm

[@yamasama1]

Rice already proven!! Rice is way more experienced and keeps proving it every game! No comparison!

[@Cruzer11]

Does Sam have a YT channel?

[@dwayne5064]

“what I waffling” 🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧

[@BimalGurung-t1z]

WITHOUT NGOLO KANTE, THIAGO SILVA, REECE JAMES AND BEN CHILWELL CHELSEA IS NOTHING

[@tylerbrizzyfelix9606]

Dey play😂

[@Lifeofpi531]

Stuntpegg was class here, Sam on the other hand thoo 😬

[@Slim-Clips]

Embarrassing title and thumbnail. Rice is miles clear.

[@ChubsEdits]

Sam and Rory are the worst Chelsea fans to have on this Saturday social.

[@LiamsFriendStewie]

The people in the comments haven't watched Chelsea and it shows. The amount of people acting like Caicedo hasn't played well... Okay, you've not seen Chelsea play. It's THAT simple. Argue with yourselves. 🤣

[@natnaelarwaga6100]

"What we've achieved over the last few weeks" 😂😂. This guy can't be serious. Is Boehly paying him or something because no sane person can have a take like that.

[@asamakulaikum9910]

Honestly, there is no point in bringing in „experts“ who support one club and then base all of the questions on those teams, because clearly they are only going to show how much they support their own teams.

[@joujouallotey3095]

I would rather pick Kim little over Caicedo

[@Damn-Sandwich]

She’s class tbf

[@prettyboyonline]

Lmao man said don’t sleep on Cole Palmer

[@liberalslayer7220]

These people need to check the stats of the matches before making statements like arsenal have created more chances than Chelsea it’s not even close. The player comparison is dominated by the Chelsea players except for the chances scored. Cancedo had no match fitness for the start of the season and has been solid in the last three games. Enzo is a galactico in the making. Chelsea will dominate today and win by 2 goals.

[@Withcare11]

Wouldnt Rice V Pasta be more of a debate?

[@capo1413]

The way Chelsea fans talk you wouldn’t believe they’re 11th

[@jxshh12]

two on the right are way too bias, nieve the only one worth listening to

[@gibsonokindi2261]

Reece is a better right back Ben is the better player. He can play more than just the right back position. Plus he is better physically equipped, he can play 90 mins in 60 games. Do you think Reece is consistent enough to be relied upon

[@mikailmirzasafdar6803]

Rice is twice the player Caicedo is, this isn't even a debate

[@tahsinsajid8672]

Enzo also cost 120 mil

[@Jordan-do4jm]

how is this even a debate haha , imnot a arsenal or a chelsea fan but my good god cleary rice is the better signing

[@jfedererj]

White > Reece. The best ability is availability. I think Partey is our best #6 but even if they were the same age, I'd keep Rice over him every time because Rice's fitness and injury record are VASTLY superior, to the point that any slight degree to which I rate Partey above him is completely wiped out. Also: Ben White can play multiple positions in the back line; Reece is just a RB. No contest. Given the choice, every other manager in the PL would sign White over Reece.

[@Cbart23]

These people don’t know football.

[@O7FTBL]

It's obviously Rice like that's obvious

[@Amir-lo1sq]

The fact this is still a question is quite mad 😂😂

[@trickishpark92]

Finally a Chelsea supporter that is behind his club - Rory Jennings needs to watch and learn

[@blasisiagiri]

Chelsea acting like they won 3 games in the premier league on the bounce - I'm sure one of them was in the league cup

[@couturecriminal8330]

Yeah what happened when they destroyed Arsenal...

[@oluwaseyisubair4426]

Dis are not to be compared, rice is 20x better than caicedo.

[@milosradusinovic5796]

and this is why you dont bring tiktokers to these shows.

[@OrenAjb]

Please get some guests who actually watch football on, the Chelsea and Arsenal fans are absolutely disgraceful. (Stuntpegg is great though)

[@christophersmith5606]

Is this really a serious question ? Where on earth do they get these people ?

[@thelevelupcommunity]

I’m not even watching vid.. it’s RICE simple.

[@Buckley2011]

Some guests this year have been teeerrrrible

[@jdf2100]

this is insulting to arsenal.. you can''t compare those chelsea players to players like Odegaard and Rice