Mass Effect 3 OST - Betrayal [Extended Version]

[@Calzonio]

'I MADE A MISTAKE! I made a mistake...' After hearing the most intelligent squad member, a guy who could always justify his actions admit that he was wrong about the one thing that defined him, the one thing that made him a hero at the time, for that man to say that... I couldn't shoot him in the back as he tried to correct that mistake. No matter what was offered.

[@dragonizerx6462]

Everyone made mistakes at some point in time, but admitted and owning that mistake is the greatest thing you do. And if you died trying or succeed in fixing that mistake, you will go down a hero.

[@blackhole495]

I blew his back out. Bang!

[@XEvilCookiesX]

I never heard this song because I'm not a soulless bastard.

[@Ashes1032]

There's a strong bit of symbolism that's easy to miss. Should you betray Mordin and kill him, you shoot him with a Carnifex pistol, the same type of gun Mordin gives you in ME2 as a gesture of goodwill.

[@meredpool2003]

I didn't notice that. That makes it worse i just couldn't do it even when i was playing ren shep

[@TomZanovich]

Wrong. I bought the super Carnifex pistol from the Spectre Terminal in the Citadel and shot the alien with that pistol, not a average Mass Effect. I do think the dev just used the Carnifex model because it open in a badass way, and added to the drama.

[@Enigman64]

TomZanovich It's in Mass Effect 2. You leave the clinic and Mordin hands you the Carnifex as a "bonus in good faith." Even if you have a different pistol equipped, it shows the Carnifex because of this symbolism, unlike in other cutscenes where it's usually the Predator.

[@TomZanovich]

Enigman64 I know, but my Shepard used the Paladin, not the Carnifex.

[@Retbullgivesyouwings]

TomZanovich No, you HAD to use a Carnifex to kill Mordin.

[@carnifex1257]

"would have liked to have run tests on the Seashells..."

[@edercheder4199]

by the seashore

[@user-hi4sm3ig5j]

Hopefully there are seashells in Salarian Heaven.

[@Reclaimer1986]

+iM3GTR Oh.. You just had to bring up the seashells.. :'|

[@WR400-k7v]

They made it the same exact gun that he gives you in Me2, if nobody noticed. It's such a sad scene, and so many things could happen in just this one moment. Hurt, betrayal of trust, murder, so much. And the music allows us to feel every single emotion, if we open up to it. I think most of us can agree that the music composed for Mass Effect does its job.

[@EmptyBrewsky]

I went full Renegade through all three Mass Effect titles. Never hesitated on any choice that I made. But when I got to this part, and I pulled a gun on Mordin for the first time, I winced. Then, when he turned around and the Renegade prompt popped on my screen, I just couldn't do it. I watched Mordin walk into the elevator, and sacrifice himself for the greater good. :D

[@Andersson203]

EmptyBrewsky Man I miss Mordin. He was a decent guy.

[@ninjacat2171]

***** Wrex is a brother, and Grunt too. Both are pretty feared and respected among the Krogan, i'd rather have have the Krogan at my back than the Salarians, besides Captian Kirrahe gives you his black-ops squads and you get Salarian aid eventually. The Krogan deserve a second chance, Eve and Wrex are good examples for why.

[@Andersson203]

Maddie Scott I liked Kirrahe eventhough he was a bit of a cloaca. Loved making speeches: "Hold the line." Personally I prefer to get the job done and go home.

[@twotailedavenger]

EmptyBrewsky All Renegade up to this point? You even sold out Tali?

[@wolvez28]

***** if you have played paragon through it all you end up getting salarian help anyways if eve is still alive and wrex is leader you have nothing to worry about

[@NiftyJonathan]

Had to be me.

[@cerealbird6384]

miss you

[@APSejuani]

Someone else might have gotten it wrong.

[@bigfatcarp93]

YOU MADE HIM A STEAK!

[@NicoTheCinderace]

...Someone else might have gotten it wrong, right?

[@CRIMS0NDRAG0N017]

wait... arent you supposed to dead?

[@Tiger66261]

Mordin.. WALK AWAY...

[@bedtransformer6620]

"...Can't do that shepard."

[@ScottKHluv]

I could never bring myself to betray Mordin. I would rather make the Salarians my enemies, then to betray my brother in arms with the very gun he gave to me out of trust.

[@silverdragon7385]

You said it.

[@hekatebleble4800]

But you guys know you can have the genophage sabotaged and Mordin alive and happy both, right?

[@silverdragon7385]

Hekate Bleble Yeah but through manipulation. The way to do it is talking to him about his change of mind. You would then as a friend have no respect of his opinion just because what was. He even sais "I made a mistake".

[@hekatebleble4800]

Not exactly, if you convince him he's being too emotional at this moment he's very grateful to you afterwards. And he even says you prevented him from making the real mistake. He really seems to be fine with it and enjoys himself working on the Crucible. Iff that's manipulation, then telling your child to not touch a fire otherwise you'll get burned is manipulation too ;)

[@silverdragon7385]

Hekate Bleble Alright you got me. But I am not changing my mind. Plus I would never betray the Krogans.

[@link8440]

I don't want to meet anyone who did this.

[@imperiidesflumine6217]

hehe

[@itgoesdown1542]

Oh, hello.

[@Plamkton]

Good morning ^^

[@GrigoriPeshkov]

My very first play Ashley killed Wrex in Virmire, and in ME2 mordin talking about the Krogan and meeting Wreav i decided to detroy mealon data, when the moment came to cure the krogan, i couldn't convice Mordin to stay alive and i had the choice to shoot him but i didn't, when mordin cured the genophage, i deciced to delete all my playthrough to start again and save Wrex and save the data. i'm so glad i didnt pulled that trigger

[@KyleRen-sj6gv]

I tried doing it in a playthrough just to do it and instantly ALT+F4, literally could not.

[@ParasiteQueen1]

And this is why, folks, you play as a Paragon.

[@CiraChan]

That is my thoughts as well. however some people might not like Mordin. which is totally their call. But I just couldn't do it...my heart...it shattered watching him do what he did for all of the Wrex's people.

[@dreman999]

You don't "have" to do this to be a renegade.

[@gh0s7walk3r]

CiraChan I play renegade specifically for moments like this. I love the drama that can erupt from playing evil/antihero characters. Knights the Old Republic is another game that has moments like this when you go evil :D

[@jacobmorris6016]

gh0s7walk3r Kotor was legit

[@autumnlove96able]

Wait so I'm going through a full Paragon playthrough. Is it possible to not kill Mordin but cure the Genophage if I saved Wrex in the first game and the data in the second game?

[@PredatorAlienate]

Shooting down a loyal comrade-in-arms is callous enough, but using his sacrifice to foil not only his sole hope of redemption but the dreams of a neutered nation takes cruel to a sociopathic level. In one premeditated move, Shepard the lying rat condemns Mordin to infamy, Wrex to futile death, and billions to stillbirth.

[@netspirit79]

Yeah, that's what I did. I prevented another Krogan Rebellion by preserving the genophage, killed the Rachni queen, which saved the galaxy. Mordin was just one Salarian that I did not particularly like anyway - definitely not enough to sacrifice the galaxy for keeping the idiot alive.

[@PredatorAlienate]

+netspirit79 A Krogan population explosion would not necessarily have led to another rebellion. Not if the Krogan were given more constructive outlets for their aggressive impulses. There would always be demand for a legion of biological control agents somewhere in a civilization that spanned the Galaxy.

[@hekatebleble4800]

This is Patrick Weekes for you, friend. (the creator of Mordin and his storyline. He also created another big tragedy, which is Solas in DA. He's going to be the leading writer in DA4 and from what I've seen on Twitter, he's cooperatives are calling him dick already, after hearing his ideas for the sequel. That makes me think he's most likely coming with something magnificently dickish this time if people who know him for years are still shocked...)

[@PredatorAlienate]

Hekate Bleble Then, it is Weekes the Tragedian whom I have to thank. Yes, the theme linking ME Solas to DA Solas goes far beyond an eponymous clue. Both characters fear their own legacies, for both feel remorse over their SOULLESS deeds. When the Inquisitor's heir comes to sit in judgment of DA Solas, I hope Mr. Weekes will give the Player a real choice in deciding his fate. Otherwise, ugh....

[@hekatebleble4800]

I'm almost certain we'll get some choice. Players are strongly polarized about him and the devs are aware of that. For me it only means more drama because I support Solas and I'm going to see him suffer one way or another :|

[@luiseperezcortes1804]

Mordin was the very first crew member I lost in the entire series (excluding the forced loss of Ashley or Kaidan). This was the first time in the entire series where it really struck me that the end was really coming. It was real. I lost a beloved character, even if he chose to sacrifice himself to mend his error. I struggled to get over it for weeks. Then others like Legion soon followed; the moment I thought I had lost Grunt put me on an emotional roller coaster; and the farewell video messages to other characters near the game's end made it clear that I was not living past these upcoming events. Bravo Bioware. I loved every single character I met in the universe you created. Sincerely -a fan.

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

There is a way to get Shepard to survive past the the end

[@melthorn641]

You can talk Mordin into agreeing with you in sabotaging the genophage, and he won't go up the elevator at all and *will* live. But you *have* to destroy Maelon's data in the second game and kill Wrex in the first to convince Mordin that Wreav is a maniac that will start the krogan rebellions all over again. Mordin will actually side with you and agree to help work on the Crucible. I got to talk to him on the comm in London before the big final push to the beam. It was cool as hell to have that last talk with him. I was renegade as hell in that playthrough, though. Basically to get Mordin to live, you have to get a bunch of other people killed. In the talk with Garrus later, and if Shepard admits the truth to him, Garrus calls Mordin a "devious little salarian" for being able to fool everyone into thinking he died up at the tower.

[@tcmugutc01]

If Eve is dead

[@supervegito2277]

@@tcmugutc01 Eve dies if Maelons data is destroyed.

[@hiromurdoch6164]

No! Not- not yet... Not ready

[@anothertoast77]

pulling a gun on Mordin is hard enough, but no matter what you have equipped Shepard pulls out the gun Mordin gave him in ME2. The gun he gave him as a sign of TRUST DX I could never shoot you, Mordin, but I mourn for those who had to

[@Killzoneguy117]

When you think about it, Renegade Shepard is the worst war criminal in history. Hitler committed genocide? Renegade Shepard committed at least 3 genocides throughout the story, he executed unarmed prisoners in cold blood, he betrayed some of his best friends, he left the Council to die, he ended hostage negotiations by often shooting the hostage, he actively worked with, aided and at the time, endorsed a brutal terrorist organization and all in all, his actions probably ended up greatly sabotaging and hindering the allied war effort far more than Cerberus could wish.

[@HH-cm5rp]

***** but he did it for the greater good, most of the time. He killed the first Rachni queen because he didn't want to provoke a terrible war; same with the Krogan. He let the Council die because he wanted to be sure that Sovereign would be destroy. He fought side by side with the Illlusive Man because the precious concil you saved was a bunch of assholes who was drinking champagne when humans colonies were entirely decimated. He didn't negociated with terrorists and, in sacrificing the hostages, he saved many life in the future. So yeah, it's hard sometimes to make the good, but I prefer killing 500 000 of humans to save 5 000 000 than trying to save everyone and become an extinct species.

[@ducediablo]

War is not pretty nor romantic

[@Sefar778]

Spoiler, R.I.P Mordin Solus, Mass effect 2 - Mass effect 3. May you walk in heavens beaches and study sea shells in peace.

[@JessieJay7]

Amen to that!

[@Pliskkenn]

Run those tests buddy. Run those tests.

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

I was sad and shocked the first time I saw him die in the shroud I said "you my friend redeemed yourself by curing it

[@zech007]

How could you shoot Mordin, he's the most innocent character there is who is trying to redeem himself by fix a 1000 years old mistake!

[@1vaultdweller]

+zech007 He made a mistake.

[@AcceptableMike2137]

I MADE HIM A STEAK!

[@bighelio1093]

+Michał Rękas I made him cake

[@josesuarez7484]

Anyone else feel a lump in their throats?

[@optimaltt6070]

You know, this is one of many, MANY, *MANY* points in the series that made me rethink what it means to be a Renegade. In a lot of other RPGs, you'll get Good vs Evil choices, and when I first played ME1, I thought "Renegade choices" were just meant to be "the bad guy" choices. At first, I was surprised to be proven wrong....at FIRST. What I thought was going to be "evil" was just "pragmatic" and no nonsense. Captured an enemy soldier? You can sweet-talk him into giving enemy intel, OR beat him within an inch of his life to save time, which can be used to save OTHER lives. BOTH had some appeal from an ethical and practical standpoint. But there were choices.....that REALLY sold that idea that the renegade Shepard is an utter bastard. Moments that made me think "No, this could have been handled better. You gained NOTHING of worth doing things this way. The world is worse-off because of what you did. This was a bad move in both the long and short term". Shooting Mordin in the back? Betraying an entire race and their hopes/dreams? THIS is the one point where a good person would have said "no", pragmatic or not.

[@txgoldrush]

I shot Mordin, but Wreav was the Krogan leader instead of Wrex. Completely changes the context.

[@kirikakirikakirika]

You can kill Mordin!? What the fuck!? No... No, no, no, no, no, no! NEVER!

[@TheBoredTraveler]

+kirikakirikakirika shefard can't kill Dr.mordin, he was saving the people from the deadly disease..when did he betrayed?.

[@ComSpectre]

+fahad khan He actually can, there is a choice in the game to kill Mordin.

[@phantom4cerberus]

I don't think Renegade Shepard does it for fun, but because he has no choice. Clearly Mordin stubborness lead him to death. But fortunately if Wreav is in charge and you go Renegade he can be convinced to not cure the genophage

[@blakehester5559]

Be it in a game, or be it in Real life Situations, I Would rather die than betray my friends.

[@astaroth5024]

Betraying not only a good friend, but a good person trying to atone for his past actions with the very gun he gave you when you met him, is simply disgusting and evil. Anyone who shot Mordin is legit a terrible person.

[@uap6893]

this and killing tali are the worst decisions you can ever make in a game

[@silverdragon7385]

That, my friend, is true

[@peterparker1683]

Spectre _MC Killing Legion is also very bad. Does...this...unit...have...

[@selinawalsh9075]

At least with Tali, you don't know that she will die. With Mordin, you specifically choose to shoot him.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

let quarian suit-rats and Tali die #noregrets

[@prismanic24]

Also killing Wrex after lying to him about curing the genophage

[@TwelloJello]

"Had to be. Someone else might have gotten it wrong"

[@onlinesnowbr3001]

I am the very model of a scientist salarian, I've studied species turian, asari, and batarian. I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because i am an expert (which i know is a tautology). My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a scientist salarian.

[@linda-0587]

*mordin coughs*

[@AmellsGrace]

Someone else might have gotten it wrong.

[@Garrus493]

I don't usually cry during games but man Mass Effect 3 pushed my limits. This song dude right in the feels. The only thing that beat me up more was Legion and Thessia. All the screaming....

[@thatguy1732]

thank you I feel great now, you made my day

[@Claudetite]

My brother introduced me to Mass Effect. He watched me play this scene and betray and kill Mordin. He just stands up and looks me dead in the eye and says "... you disgust me." lmao, rip Good memories, this game

[@mattigan13]

Claudetite id disown you for killing mordin. genuinely loved the guy.

[@DaOS159]

How can... someone do this?...

[@OFJehutyV2]

Easily, I did it on my first playthrough. 3% ftw.

[@DaOS159]

OFJehutyV2 I would do this if Wrex or Eve is dead but... i think if you have enough Paragon or Reneage you can convince Mordin to not make the cure and you can save him! But only if Wrex die in Virmine and Eve die for not save Mealon data...

[@eclairdavid81]

Like Mordin said in the second games, they could've done something about it but they didn't, their planet was just horrible and they are just too dangerous, once the war will be over, they will probably have a revenge against the galarians. Liked Mordin and Wrex but I couldn't take that risk Don't get me wrong, I like the krogans and I think that what the galarians did to them is comparable to a " crime against a species " because they never got to develop themselves since the galaraisn brought them weapons. I think that their story is a huge tragedy :(

[@DaOS159]

eclairdavid81 Yes, but with Wrex and Bakara/Eve alive they will change the Krogans! Even Mordin believe that the Krogan can yes work together with the rest! What happen in the Krogan Rebellion was a mistake, like the morning war with the Quarian/Geth, The Quarian was wrong, and the Krogan was wrong! but you really believe that a "genocide" to a entire race gonna fix it? PS: It's Salarian ;P

[@eclairdavid81]

Daan OS Some krogans are good, yeah but I doubt that they are good enough to stop an entire ( violent ) race from wanting their vengeance. It could work but from what I saw in the game, there is a also a risk that this could lead to a future war. And it's not a genocide, the salarians only reduced the number of child they could have so it's impossible for them to be dangerous in the future but their race is still alive

[@jg3818]

It had to be me, someone else might of gotten it wrong.

[@Bacxaber]

Avenger Shepard Might have*

[@captnmorgan7410]

Fuckin grammar nazi...

[@Bacxaber]

Captn Morgan Nazi of Grammar*

[@feedmeyourcows9883]

+Avenger “Marine5484” Shepard *shoots mordin in back*

[@jackdon3000]

I genuinely cried when i shot mordin and he when he was crawling towards the console. It was awful but it made the story that much better. Btw am i the only one who noticed how creepy shepard was talking to hacket afterwards when shep says "Careful diplomacy..."?

[@shadypenguinX]

It was so hard for me... Having to choose between doing what is right and what is logical. If Wrex were alive id have cured the genophage but with Wreave, I couldn't do it so I shot mordin who is one of my favourite characters . Hardest thing to do ever

[@16thdemon]

You should have deleted Maelon's data back in ME2. Although this kills Eve in ME3, it enables you to sabotage genophage cure and save Mordin. CAUTION: Wrex must be dead for this to work.

[@shadypenguinX]

***** ikr!!!!

[@timhallfarthing383]

To be fair you shot Wrex so I'm not letting you off this one.

[@chrishill3536]

yeah with wrex leading korgan good choice but with wreave after the war he would of went back to killing ever one.

[@TheHorreK2]

Tim Hall or he didnt even play the first one, the normal save game does have a dead Wrex too

[@TommyGuns666]

The whole mood of this song is one of disbelief, as in “WTF just happened?” And being shocked at someone’s actions.

[@mikespam8271]

My beloved mordin ...you will never die this way in any Play through of mine

[@SomeRandomYTer]

Instead of the Krogan I would have LOVED it if there was a choice (based on your actions in previous games) to convince TIM to become a good guy for humanity. Or help him become the first person to resist and cure himself of indoctrination then the game plays out totally differently with the Alliance fighting the war and you doing covert sidequests for Cerberus in curing civilians or others of indoctrination and ultimately getting a much better ending. Imagine this as a New Game +

[@bigfatcarp93]

Man, I hear you. Boy, do I fucking hear you. In life, our mistakes define us as much as our successes, and it's a testament to Mass Effect's greatness that we hold it to the same standard.

[@TesVixen]

I could never shoot Mordin :(

[@abradford9424]

Mass Effect has to one of the greatest sci-fi epics ever written

[@tyrenious5200]

Dem feels.

[@unholyd]

I could not pull the trigger on Mordin, even though, I was Renegade, but he was a good squad mate.

[@drewskyGALE]

Mass Effect 3 had the best soundtracks for a game in history. Straight up.

[@damunzta]

I could never make myself press the Renegade prompt. Damn you for being so charming Mordin!

[@musiclover132465]

The only time Shepard ever shows disgust with who he is, is not when he betrays the universe, but when he betrays a friend.

[@ryann8126]

Not yet.....not yet......

[@TheJoelLicious]

Will do! Couldn't be more happy to get the orders from anyone else but you!

[@MovieAndTVThemes]

I for one have never been a 'full' paragon or a 'full' renegade. I use a combination of the two to create a more diverse experience. I don't want to be the 'good' guy or the 'anti-hero' - I prefer being my own character.

[@NowThatsPeng]

R.I.P Mordin...may you forever walk the golden beaches...and study seashells :'(

[@0pwaffles]

Mordin Solus was my favorite character of the mass effect series. i remember playing this with my cousin who chose the renegade option... the pain and sense of injustice that Bioware made during that made me practically weep. hat's off to you Bioware

[@TheRevanchists]

That is the entire purpose of this moment, this is why the entire Tuchanka Arc is the pinnacle of the Series in terms of excellence. The hardest, most far reaching choices take place in this moment, besides that..."ending". Someone who chose this does not have to be a Soulless bastard, I chose it once...and it hurt...but for my Shepard...it was the best solution.

[@Enigman64]

On my first real Renegade playthrough...I knew you could save Mordin, but I didn't know the circumstances. I tried to get him to fake the genophage, but he just wouldn't. The time came....and I couldn't pull the trigger. He was right. Someone else might've gotten it wrong.

[@АндрійДемяненко-ш6ш]

Stunning music...

[@Cris185885]

This song almost made me cry

[@jeronimo486]

Tragic characters like Mordin make this game series so great.

[@Retr0Nerd]

Mordin's and Tali's deaths were so cruel... Bioware sure does know how to make a person see that every choice has a consequence, some that cause more regret than others. :(

[@Chico50445]

That's what I did in all my playthroughs of all 3 games, except my most recent playthrough of the trilogy I did all renegade, started out difficult to make these decisions but then I stopped hesitating around the middle of 2.

[@JSmooth2691]

and to make you feel even more shitty, shepard throws the gun away after you shoot him...

[@skytop082]

"Okay Mordin, do what you have to d-" *Gun goes off* "IT'S AN ACCIDENT! IT'S AN ACCIDENT....The trigger i-it's sensitive!...It's...a sensitive trigger!....Wrex can I have my army now?"

[@Labyethan]

"Of course Shepard!" *Near end of game* "SHEPARD I KNOW WHAT YOU DID!"

[@SplinteredX]

Falling Down reference... great movie!

[@Pliskkenn]

***** And that is why you have all day breakfasts.

[@DrHojo123]

I agree originally I was going to be full renegade on Mass Effect 1 but after finding out how awsome this game was I started again this time picking what I felt would be the best course of action and what kinda chacter I was playing it made the game feel more real like you was a commend haveing to pick stuff that could go wrong at any second

[@omegaxxxxx]

His blood ran like a fine river, like all those who followed him.

[@LordRyan100]

amen i completely agree the Witcher series has done really well with the idea of not having a evil/good meter at all it's just up to the player who he/she decides to be.

[@noneofurbusniss]

mordin was a completly unique charechter in his own way, funny somewhat,charchters like him makes this game simply awsome!

[@Khyron56]

The Krogan refused to negotiate, they refused to withdrawal from Lusia, their birth rate ensured that they had the full force of numbers to carve an Empire in blood across the galaxy. The genophage was a last resort from a desperate age.

[@FelixTheSnake]

The part that makes it even more sad is you still get your Salarian aid after the citadel attack, though not a lot. Still, you shot him for almost nothing...

[@Rackhark]

I have played Mass effect many times. I have tried many times to think: alright NOW am gonna do it to have a different playthrough. Am gonna kill Mordin this time. It will be tough, but I can do it this time, I mean goddammit man, its just a game right? Then I stand in the situation. Am ready to pull the goddam trigger, and I just cannot do it... This trilogy is really not JUST a trilogy of games, its something more, and I don't play games in my sparetime, but this game man..Its simply beautiful...

[@supervegito2277]

The emotional suites contain this piece. I never knew its origin... and now i know why

[@Moon1446-j9n]

Whenever it came to the choices, where you had to choose between your crew members, life or death, I had to pause the game and think. Then, I'd always turn it off. Mordin was one of the hardest choices, other than choosing between Tali and Legion. As soon as Shepard pulled the gun on him, I froze. Never, in my *life* would I have thought to kill Mordin. He was one of my favorite characters, and I thought of him as a dear friend. He would die either way. I cried as I watched him go up that tower.

[@night7204]

"Don't grieve. Good decision. Saved the Krogan. Made things right. Also did not want to be part of ending. Very... problematic." -Mordin

[@TheWireLayer]

One salarian does not outweight a new galactic war with the krogans.

[@senadferati6189]

Can't imagine Shepard betraying :'(

[@0jutai]

This scene is so powerful because the trigger on the controller is like the trigger on Shepard's gun. Think about it like that next time you play this part, it is SOOO much harder to pull the trigger if you think of it as shooting a friend in real life

[@KookzintehHouse]

This story path was very Breaking Bad like in its feel of tragedy. With Renegade Commander Shepard being anti-krogan, you knew shit would hit the fan eventually, but even when this happens, the impact hits you hard.

[@travistemple4528]

My heart went from 0 to 100 when I did this cruel act

[@Mayce1701]

Not yet...not...yet...

[@ronaldodomingos9144]

Já joguei inúmeras vezes e nunca consegui trair o Mordin. A consciência pesa, sempre mudo de ideia.

[@bishopdecimus7771]

I'm sorry Mordin. I wish there was another way. A lot of hard choices for both us brought us here . Goodbye my friend........."squeezes trigger"........ Shepherd drops gun that Mordin gave him, put on his helmet so the other squad members cannot see his pained expression .

[@DeshWitus]

goosebumps... and i'm back there... all this Moments who touch me in this Game... i don't know if there will be a Game like ME1-3 who can touch me this way O_O

[@skjorta1984]

my grandma!

[@TheRadPlayer]

Give me one good bloody reason not to pop a cap in the Dalatrass!

[@twotailedavenger]

TheRadPlayer Because by the time you get to the Citadel to kill her, she's already been iced by Cerberus.

[@whymustithinkofaname]

twotailedavenger Different salarian.

[@TheRadPlayer]

whymustithinkofaname The Salarian Councilor is not the Dalatrass, no. Still kind of a douche though, like most politicians in Mass Effect. (Notable exceptions being Anderson if he's chosen as councilor, and the elcor ambassador in the first game)

[@whymustithinkofaname]

TheRadPlayer The first salarian councilor - Valern - in the first game isn't too bad if you keep him alive until the third game, just all the female salarians are douches.

[@justinfarley8001]

I did this, only because I thought I needed the Salarians help. I was wrong. I went back quickly, and re did this. I don't care if its a video game, I couldn't live with myself after taking Mordin's life.

[@GreatestMKfighter]

1:17 is where I absolutely fucking lose it and start bawling.

[@victoriasharpe1661]

This choice is easy to make when Wrex is gone, eve is gone as is the data, and you're left with that krogan bully Wreav. But I always make sure to convince Mordin the correct way. Some things are just too morally horrifying

[@starkiller5388]

that moment when you realise that shepard shot mordin with the gun that mordin gave him / her on omega when they first met

[@TriniKnight01]

Exactly. One of the major points of the game since ME 2 - from the subplot with EDI down to the controversial ending - was that life is about having intellect, desires, emotions etc, regardless of where it came from. If after all that a guy's only justification for killing the geth is that they aren't organic, something is seriously missing.

[@sarenarterius8802]

Nihlus...The Council thought you could use some help on this one...Don't worry. I've got it under control.

[@FSM1138]

She doesn't always. I forgot the exact conditions for a living Eve, but she can survive.

[@timemonkey]

Mordin is the most fragile member of the team, completing his loyalty mission increases his survivability, as it does with all characters. So without the boost from the loyalty mission Mordin is so fragile death is almost assured.

[@Graciatus]

I couldn't do this ever, just like i can't let wrex die in me1

[@obsoletebossk]

No matter how hard i wanted the salarians on my side, i was physically unable to shoot mordin. I cant believe anyone had the power to push down the left mouse button.

[@HiddenFaithy]

Fudge... fudge... fudge... I'm crying....

[@annikalangolf2673]

I once completely committed on a full renegade play through, promising myself to never hesitate once as much as I hate it, so I lost a lot of squadmates during this time. But I pulled the trigger on Mordin I was absolutely destroyed. I didn't touch the game for months afterwards because I felt so bad about it

[@HoennHombre]

Mordin… You’re not going up.

[@R4Y2k]

Starts new ME3 runthrough.... "this time gonna be a hell of a renegade".... arrives at Mordins scene.... "No, sorry, can't do that".... "WARNING.... TEMPERATURE MALFUNCTION DETECTED"... :-(

[@sbpriesthood]

I TOLD YOU TO COME AT 7!

[@McCrustable]

I did this out of spite. Not because I needed to, but because I wanted to

[@Dlord007]

Which is why you try like hell to keep Wrex in charge. He and the females can lead the Krogan to a meaningful future.

[@SSSniperSkank]

Heavys watching shepard shoot mordin and heavy said ded