Superman II (1980) - Defeating Zod Scene (9/10) | Movieclips

Superman II - Defeating Zod: Superman (Christopher Reeve) tricks General Zod (Terence Stamp) and the Kryptonian criminals into losing their powers.
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Superman (Christopher Reeve) foils the plot of terrorists by hurtling their nuclear device into outer space, but the bomb's shock waves free the Kryptonian villain General Zod (Terence Stamp) and his henchmen Ursa (Sarah Douglas) and Non (Jack O'Halloran) from their imprisonment. Traveling to Earth, they threaten the planet with destruction at the same time that Superman decides to renounce his superpowers in order to live a normal life as Clark Kent with his new love, Lois Lane (Margot Kidder).
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TM & © Warner Bros. (1980)
Cast: Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Jack O'Halloran, Margot Kidder, Sarah Douglas, Terence Stamp
Screenwriter: David Newman, Leslie Newman, Mario Puzo
Director: Richard Lester
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[@thegrizzledgamer7697]

Imagine watching when you're eight years old. This scene made me so happy.

[@rocketman1773]

I agree! I was around 7 or 8 when I saw this in the theatre

[@LondonCelt]

I was and I did

[@cosmeticcarrepair]

I was 6 and I was absolutely buzzing when he crushed Zod's hand and still do now 👊🏼

[@sharoneasley9717]

I hear you guys! I remember seeing Superman ( this one) at the movies back then. Man, that was so COOL to the 20th degree! I love how super man out smarted Zod. Plus, crushing that idiot villan's hand. Only Superman knows that place inside/out. His father constructed, through a blue print, the fortress of solitude, to fit his son's understanding. Lois gave a great knock down punch. 👊

[@juliuscepeda9655]

I was 13 when I saw this in the theater back in the day. I loved it so much I bought the movie poster to hang in my room.

[@stevenbaer5999]

Rest in peace Superman it was actually very extremely hard to disturbing to see him paralyzed from his horse accident. He will always be Superman no matter what.

[@waltersimmons946]

100% right on spot . 👌

[@AdamTheLegoCityandPlushKing]

Christopher Reeve also appeared in Smallville and so did Terence Stamp as different roles: Reeve's Role was Virgil Swann and Stamp played Jor-El a Role Marlon Brando played in the Super Man Franchise.

[@belkyb14]

👏👏👏👏

[@Struzzylive]

BUT, his life is celebrated and is always alive to those who Believe!

[@80steen44]

I know this may sound shallow and that's not how I intend it, but as long as Christopher was alive in the chair, anytime I saw him as Superman, I always was still reminded that he was now a quadriplegic. Since his death, it's all the more immortalized him as Superman and his accident never really enters my mind

[@jrvbamafan1]

When he cracks Zods hand and his music starts playing, I get goosebumps everytime....an incredible moment in cinema history

[@johnjohns8863]

Awwwww do you😂🤣😂🤣😂 but then superman murders all three of them but its ok cuz its donnas superman

[@tvd7954]

@@johnjohns8863 Lester was the director technically. in the donner cut, he reverses time and they all end up back in the Phantom Zone.

[@victorpradha9946]

The theater erupted in ahs and "WTF" looks, followed by claps when people understood what Superman did. I was just a small kid...but I remember. I also remember thinking to myself eeeeeewwwwww gross, why would Superman give up his powers for a girl. To this day, I wonder...since Lois fell in love with Superman, not the Clark Kent persona...why would Kal-el think rendering himself to be exactly Clark would be what Lois wants.

[@zarrow50]

They got that from Boys from the Black Stuff

[@13thwho]

@@johnjohns8863 They don’t die. In a scene that was cut from the theatrical version, they are taken away by police.

[@coryferguson8234]

The look on Zods face while his hand is getting squeezed priceless

[@bigislander72]

They did a good sound effect too.

[@Jhart811]

Yup

[@itwontcomeout5678]

“When you nutt but she still SUCC”

[@jamesnoble3502]

For such a pompous tough guy he sure squealed like a little girl 😄

[@coryferguson8234]

@jamesnoble3502 I know right it was quite comical

[@maxeisenhardt8800]

I love how Superman acted as if he was weakened inside the chamber, and he even went as far as kneeling before Zod. He gave the performance of his life. Trolling at its finest.

[@superfly207]

Somehow Superman had psyched them Out.

[@alekesam]

Yup. He could've come out of the chamber and be like "It's over Zod." But he went the extra mile and let Zod gloat which made the turn all the more sweeter.

[@alanocarlossur9440]

He couldn't deny him his moment of triumph, but a moment was all he could spare.

[@critikal1857]

So how did he take there powers away

[@blakearmentrout7717]

@@critikal1857 the chamber he gets into was designed by his father to make him a normal human if he should ever choose to give up his powers, Superman simply hotwired the machine to do the same thing to everyone OUTSIDE the machine instead thus making zod and his flunkys normal humans

[@nicktroisi6347]

I like how Superman took Luthor’s advice from the first film. “Mind over muscle”. He tricked Zod and his gang and Luthor was genuinely impressed by it.

[@robertbusek30]

The best part is that Superman used Luthor to sell the scam…

[@Halpin2006]

@@robertbusek30 and it's so hard to think that (Clark) and Lex were close friends when they were teenagers!

[@robertbusek30]

@@Halpin2006 At least in some universes… 😆

[@Halpin2006]

@@robertbusek30 yes, true. But I always prefer to stick to Canon. I do the same with Star Wars and Star Trek.

[@blakearmentrout7717]

I always felt Luther also respected the way he lied to him counting him to betray him to sell the con that much more.

[@timothyturner1056]

I remember that the whole movie auditorium at the movie theater erupted with thunderous applause and cheers when Superman killed Zod back then .

[@MGSBigBoss77]

I still remember the whistles and cheers as the curtains pulled back and we saw the license and rating for the film as Superman II came up onscreen after all the commercials and ads stopped being shown as the film began playing. Mark my words; Superman II was truly epic back in the day!

[@christopherharris342]

I remember that too.

[@REELTIMEREVIEWS1]

and if u watch another cut of this version we learned he didn't kill zod at all..

[@generalzod7959]

He did not kill me. I live still!

[@iistyleszii]

This mustve been 50 years ago

[@mattjarrells]

Still one of the best, "HELL YES!" scenes ever.

[@nathancruz9172]

2:30-2:46 yep.

[@garyslaughter9923]

Only equaled by the scene of Superman flying with the U.S. flag to the White House.

[@queenfan45]

I love how Lex seems genuinely impressed by the switch.

[@marcschneider4845]

But Luther is pretty stupid to think that Superman would actually trust him.

[@michaeldepinto3562]

He definitely was, he beat them with Mind over Muscle lol he definitely appreciated that.

[@JR-ju3kj]

@@michaeldepinto3562 People forget that Superman's actually an intelligent character but of course,his intellect usually isn't played up quite the same way that the intellect of another famous caped DC Comics character is. Lex underestimated Superman and he didn't think Superman was COUNTING on him to betray him and that he knew Lex would betray him.

[@michaeldepinto3562]

@@JR-ju3kj So true!! Great Point!!

[@nihatbekiroglu8004]

Actually I never understood why Luther would decide to side with the villains against Superman. The only reason they did not kill him earlier in the movie is because they needed his help to find Superman. The moment Superman's powers are gone and he no longer is a threat for the villains, Luther would become an instant liability. Someone like Zod would kill him right there, knowing well that Luther, if spared, would cause trouble for him in the long run. So, the smart move for Luther would be to help Superman get rid of the villains, because Superman would never kill a human being, no matter how evil he / she is....

[@cs512tr]

Terence stamp's facial reaction and sounds absolutely sold it, the suprise fear and pain all in one

[@raven4k998]

kneel before ZOD Take Zods hand crushes ZODS hand like a toy

[@ManCave1972]

The way Terry Stamp doesn’t even look at him when he tells him to take his hand and swear loyalty is a good touch. It’s beautiful when great actors give their all, even to popcorn roles.

[@SantaPorter420]

Kneel Before Zod Terrace Stamp as Zod was brilliant

[@yvancosta6107]

Esse atriz que faz a lois nem é tão jovem nem bonita ela é...af

[@josephstewart2821]

You can't help but think zod died a happy man - all he ever wanted was the son of Joel to kneel before him!

[@SantaPorter420]

@@josephstewart2821 its Jor El bro, sorry, I hate being that nerd🤓

[@TyrannosaurusCHEX]

@@SantaPorter420 I wrote jor el but didn't notice it got edited back- auto correct judassed me!

[@concerned1]

The way Stamp plays Zod. Like he’s almost turned on by the power. So good.

[@ericsantana1184]

I read online that the original person who was meant to play General Zod was Christopher Lee but he turned it down due to the fact that he was a tax exile and vowed to never return to England. At least that's what I read online.

[@concerned1]

@@ericsantana1184 I heard the same about the original director. Lots of tax exiles in this business by the sounds of it.

[@jimbo8743]

Haha, Lee would have been good also 👍

[@j15cbr]

Stamp also Played Jor-El in SmalleVille(voice)

[@kituwahband]

​@@ericsantana1184and just think, Stamp and Lee were both in Star Wars later on...full circle 👌👍

[@Quintos.]

Christopher really was part superman on how he fought on after his tragedy. He was very courageous and I have the utmost respect for him.

[@RandomInternetProfile]

😴

[@medexamtoolscom]

Oh you mean breaking his neck in the horse accident. Fought on, I'm not sure you could call it that though. You mean when he just sat around in a chair all day? Being a quadruplegic sounds like it sucks, but it sounds like it would be pretty easy. Not a lot of EFFORT involved.

[@JustinMacri007]

How did Lois know for sure it's safe to punch ursa last time she broke her hand

[@paulspikewilson]

In addition, one of the most underrated comic actors in American film. He was hilarious in Noises Off!

[@mgoogleuser8011]

why is Zod just some skinny old guy in a bathrobe??

[@meandyou1993]

2013 Superman: You know what Zod, you're a real pain in the neck.

[@iorekby]

It was a snappy line

[@Arjanator]

Both versions died lol

[@Iconhulk]

No.. just no.. Trash 2013 version

[@mrHunleashesHELL]

@@Iconhulk Compared to his death here , I think 2013 did it with justifiable way.

[@zindi1138]

that guy was such a jerk too.!

[@charles1203]

How many people in the theater cheered when Superman broke Zod’s hand. That’s just the best scene.

[@zakichan851]

No superman doesn't torture people

[@YoungRin-ms]

I like super villians better

[@sha11235]

I didn't see this in the theater, but I can picture it. I think he crushed his hand.

[@JamesQMurphy]

11-year-old me did... and everyone else in the theater

[@jackhayes6273]

Not quite old enough to watch it in the movies but i was 6 the first time i watched it and my smile was so big it made the joker look sad

[@StreetFighter2010]

The CRUNCH of Zod's fingers breaking was so satisfying, like watching one of those back-cracking videos. 🤣

[@Autistic_Gallant-92.]

His reaction was… priceless. 🤣🤣🤣

[@davidherron9151]

We used up a ;lot of crisps and corn flakes recreating that hand crush not that my mum was very pleased

[@SkullyBones448]

The funny thing is that sound definetly went on for a very long time 😂

[@williamm374]

Margot Kidder and Christopher Reeve deserved better fates. They were both awesome in film and real life

[@alanwoodwind5265]

Unfortunately Kidder's troubles were somewhat self inflicted. Reeve's was a freak accident.

[@TheRogueSquid]

True. But even though he was paralysed he worked tirelessly and even had some success in the rehab process he was truly an inspirational man.

[@TerrificLittleSunday]

Nobody deserves nothin.

[@jeffdees9249]

@@TerrificLittleSunday The world doesn’t meet anyone halfway.

[@Pistonhammer]

It was because of that stupid " superman curse " that wad put up upon the cast and crew

[@superdave577]

As a child of the 70's and 80's, I got the extreme pleasure of seeing 1 & 2 in the theaters. Although limited at the time by the technology available to them, these are, in my opinion, the two best super hero movies ever made. They showed just how great superhero movies can and should be; Solid script, good acting and continuity of the storyline. I know they don't have the special effects and CGI that DC and Marvel have now but without these two movies I don't think Marvel would have had the success it enjoys so much now. Truly remarkable movies.

[@mariomouse8265]

Oh, we KNOW Marvel owes their success to Richard Donner. Kevin Feige’s first job was working for Richard Donner’s wife, and he has stated multiple times that he patterns the MCU after Donner’s Superman. You can clearly see it best with the Captain America movies.

[@daveleidy5984]

Agreed. There are several movies I remember people giving standing ovations . JAWS, Superman & Superman 2 were three I remember. People erupted in applause when Bruce was blown up. Superman and Superman 2 were so exciting as a kid. When Superman rescued Lois from the helicopter and when he crushed Zod’s hand were Incredible moments I remember like yesterday (I’m 52) Movies were an event. Raiders, Star Wars, Empire, On & On. 70’s & 80’s we’re great. First Blood 2. (Rambo) when he said “I’m coming for you” crowd erupted in applause.

[@superdave577]

@@daveleidy5984 right there with you. I'm 52 also, so we saw everything at the same time.

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Deaf Blind

[@brianlogan4243]

No one did Kent like Chris Reeves

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

One of the greatest goosebumps scene, ever. Everyone played their roles to perfection. Miss the days of having great actors.

[@casanovamacbeth]

an absolute star cast

[@Adam253]

This is why music in movies is so important. He crushing his hand, then the theme kicking in is pure enjoyment

[@FAITHandLOGIC]

Chills

[@80srenaissance67]

Absolutely 💯

[@douglasghiz1287]

R.I.P. Christopher Reeve, Margot Kiddler

[@matth1143]

Add Jackie Cooper, who was awesome as Perry White. Susannah York, who played Lara (Sup's mom), also gone. Actually a number of the supporting cast have passed on (Clifton James, EG Marshal and so on). Movie will be 40 years old next year I think...where did the years go...

[@timothyturner1056]

You misspell her last name .

[@richierich8334]

@Alan Cogan Is there any need to be that nasty? Douglas is obviously a Superman fan like the rest of us otherwise we would not all be here. Can't you just be a little nice for once instead of all the viciousness in the World.

[@keithwilson6060]

RIP? Whaaaat?!

[@richierich8334]

@Joe Kinchicken Will do, Mary.

[@Glasgowliam]

I must have seen this a thousand times. Still makes me smile every time.

[@DivvayKhatri]

What? Superman killing and then smiling?

[@jurassickaiju14]

I first saw this movie when I was around 4 or 5. The scene on the Moon where the Kryptonians kill the astronauts caught me completely off-guard, and I was terrified of them for the rest of my viewing (and I distinctly remember having a nightmare about at least Ursa coming after me later that night). I can't tell you how glad I was to see them _finally_ get their comeuppance here.

[@Goldenbane]

@@jurassickaiju14 My most feared characters back in the day, in no particular order: Gremlins, Ivan Drago, Zod, Non, and Ursa!

[@Scripture-Man]

I've probably only seen the film about 8 times. You beat me by 992 viewings!

[@Scripture-Man]

@@Goldenbane I was never too frightened of the villains in this film. Superman 3 REALLY scared me. Like, the whole film, but especially the computer scene, and the woman being turned into the cyborg. I think I still have a latent fear of electrical equipment because of that film! Gremlins terrified me too. Ghostbusters (especially the library ghost and the terror dogs). The aliens in Cocoon also used to freak me out. But the scariest things for me as a kid were children's TV shows - a British show called Choky, and a NewZealand show called Children of the Dog Star - both about alien creatures communicating with children.

[@dpurves28]

I love how it took Lex all of two seconds to betray Superman.

[@redpyramid1914]

I think that Superman was somehow counting on it. If he did, then Lex Luthor was the one who got outsmarted.

[@dpurves28]

@@redpyramid1914 There’s no question he was counting on it.

[@redpyramid1914]

@@dpurves28 Superman definitely had something up his Kryptonian sleeve. He used the best muscle he was born with: his brain.

[@michaeldepinto3562]

Mind over Muscle is how Superman won lol you really have to appreciate it.

[@charlesvan13]

It's funny the villains have such a low opinion of Lex that they give him Australia.

[@neutral6941]

RIP Christopher Reeve 🙏, the best SuperMan 🦸‍♂️.

[@nanoviolence7681]

eh he was okay

[@mynameisseyam]

@@nanoviolence7681 snyder Fanboy Detected

[@Jondoe297..]

@@nanoviolence7681 bro said ok even Christopher reeve inspired comic version💀

[@lewish_1476]

​@@nanoviolence7681saying he's okay for superman is saying birds can't fly

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

Somebody had to take the role first

[@steelrarebit7387]

The best Superman to ever live. Never forgotten Christopher Reeve. There are some good ones, but he will always be the GOAT.

[@dignerds]

He really wasn't into Superman, it was just a gig to him ..And he called his fans cultists then told them to back off because he wasn't Superman

[@steelrarebit7387]

@@dignerds And Will Smith was pretty good in Hancock. I don't go into their histories. Just call the actor's portrayal good in that moment. Whether he intended to do a good job or not, he will always be The Superman.

[@e.j.5053]

@@dignerds yikes

[@stephenfarthing1522]

And Henry Cavell - I think that he's the second best in the role.

[@benjy117]

When Cavil was under the world machine in Man of Steel they made him look just like Reeves for a few seconds. I didn't really notice it until now.

[@brainscott8198]

All the CGI and special effects we have now couldn't replace the special place in my heart for this movie. I first saw it as an 11 yr old kid in 1978.

[@fahdchoudry7763]

They used CGI in this film

[@johncap6495]

@@fahdchoudry7763not like this .

[@ONI1013.]

Although this movie came out in 1980. You mean the first Superman?

[@gabbleratchet1890]

@@fahdchoudry7763 No, they didn't. It did not exist in 1979.

[@joshuahardee8837]

Can we all take a moment to appreciate Lois just straight murdering someone completely casually? Happily, even.

[@kylegraham6266]

Yep. And . . . wouldn't the villains understand that not all three of them could fit in the chamber at one time, so something had to be up?

[@demonofelru3214]

Ego above all. Even for Kryptonians.

[@psgary6622]

They didn't die. Supes had a prison for them. ...and yes, I indeed appreciate Lois putting the smackdown on her. She had it coming to her, remember?

[@joshuahardee8837]

@@psgary6622 As far as Lois knew, she was standing next to an ice crevasse.

[@Wigger248]

Last cryptonian women too. she just ended Superman’s race and they thought nothing of it

[@raphaelargus2984]

Love how Superman won not by super strength, invulnerability, lightning speed, laser eyes, but just by brutal cunning and cynical understanding of human nature.

[@DanielAppleton-lr9eq]

Zod was WAY OVERCONFIDENT / Sure of himself. Pride & hubris are as sharp as any blade.

[@artytoons3447]

Luthor (snickering): "I taught him that."

[@lambro4014]

Superman knew Lex Luthor would betray him so he outsmarted him instead. LOL

[@gloriajaramillo5808]

💪💪🤝😮😣

[@tava7886]

Wow, who knew 🤔

[@markfox1545]

Lam Bro - thanks for explaining that to us.

[@auagfinder6541]

Lam Bro - You should really change your name to Sherlock. Only a super-sleuth could figure out THIS conundrum!

[@harryclarkhulk]

I'm wondering if in the slightest possibility, was Luthor actually on Superman's side that entire time? I mean what if Luthor didn't want anyone else killing Superman but himself? He tried to explain something to Superman but Luthor wouldn't listen.

[@Bobaklives]

I admire Gene Hackman (and Sean Connery) for being able to retire on their own terms, but dang I miss seeing him in action on the screen.

[@davidlape5206]

Bobaklives Heard recently Connery almost came back to star again as Henry Jones in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull but stated he was enjoying retirement too much. Connery, Hackman, Eastwood just to name a few legends. When they are gone they will never be replaced.

[@adrianconnew5309]

Well said.

[@melissalsmith883]

Me too☹️i miss both especially Gene

[@REELTIMEREVIEWS1]

Welcome to moose port shouldn’t have Been his last movie but something better

[@JustinLodes]

Yeah Hackman was amazing in all his roles. Truly great gifted actor who made you believe that he wasn’t acting

[@roquat1]

"You're a real pain in the neck!" Most satisfying right hook ever!

[@Jalapablo]

Yeah, Ursa was fine as f though

[@JR-ju3kj]

I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me like Lois basically committed murder when she did that. But sure,punching Ursa would definitely be satisfying.Earlier in the movie,Ursa tries to pull a guilt-trip on Superman and make him feel bad for almost punching her and for hitting a woman. To be clear,I DON'T condone hitting women but if she's an super-powered,evil alien villain who is part of a group that wants to take over the world,sure,I think using violence against her is acceptable! Ha! Ha! I think that qualifies as the right time for a man to start throwing punches at women...and I'm sure even OTHER women would agree! Ha! Ha! Some people like to say that violence is NEVER the answer but that's not really true.It's not true in a fictional Super Hero movie and it's certainly not true in real life,either.

[@simoniajopseph9306]

Ursa like urhhhhhhhh gimme more

[@sha11235]

Yeah, Lois does it. Well, earlier she tried it and it didn't work, so they figured let's have her do it here where it will work.

[@mrm8528]

but that line stunk

[@michaelastorga3187]

Gene Hackman. Truly a iconic actor.

[@dylancooper3690]

Hack Man was the good guy in South Park.

[@davidoftheglen3447]

When I was a kid I loved this scene . I'm 41 now and still love it 😇😇😇😇😇

[@anthonyletschat259]

thats because when we were kids movies back then had something about them--remember the lines in new zealand waiting to get into star wars---now its actors paid millions to act in front of a green screen and 70 percent of the movie is cgi

[@ghostl1124]

same

[@scolee6408]

That’s because you like most people are still a kid.

[@panaoutsios1990]

From 10 years old every winter Now I am 32

[@scottnewman4788]

why do so many like when the good guys win. Its like Karate Kid, the bad guys are 100 times better than Larusso. Zod was a much better actor in this than Clark.

[@cameronpearce5943]

I love it when comics and movies have Superman save the day with his wits. I mean he just pulled a flawless Batman gambit of having an enemy be so dependable in their treachery that he could bank on that ploy working. I also like that Lex ain’t even mad and honest to god chuckled over it

[@UnleashthePhury]

Lex didn’t really want to live under a world ruled by Zod. He just wanted to be on the winning side.

[@chrismc410]

Bruce: you're learning

[@gargouenzene]

Of course you had to talk about the worst character ever, batjerk. Superman is way better that POS batjerk in every possible way !

[@The_Knight_Rider1980]

Only he didnt just use his wits, he plainly killed them. when he didnt need to since there powers were stripped.

[@dbecks241]

@@The_Knight_Rider1980 well how many people had they killed? And don't forget even on Krypton, without all those powers, they were so dangerous they had to be put in a phantom zone.

[@Squab1972]

The best actor to portray Superman RIP Christopher Reeve you are still missed but not forgotten.

[@eternalblessing4984]

Silver age Superman, that's for sure.

[@ish18kumar27]

Christopher reeve will always be the true superman no matter who comes and goes. RIP superman

[@michelmendoza1769]

Agreed although we have to concede that Reece had more acting chops than Cavill can ever hope to have. And Conroy? I can remember him in a series called “Tour ot Duty” a weekly series about Viet Nam, of course he was a face then not a voice

[@Styxswimmer]

I love this. He knew he had no chance to beat them in a fight so he outsmarted them. This is the problem with todays action films. They just muscle their way to victory. This scene is so much better because it shows how Superman is as smart as he is strong

[@TheFLAMEXD]

Tony Stark outsmarted Thanos when he stole the gems from him on the final battle.

[@Randy-ry9ss]

They probably didn't have the budget for a big fight scene.......Him throwing that letter S at him was CORNY as hell.

[@Styxswimmer]

@@Randy-ry9ss if budget problems were the reason, the result is great nonetheless.

[@Randy-ry9ss]

@@Styxswimmer A Man of Steel end fight scene would have been better.

[@skyforce911]

Rose tinted glasses......

[@michaelhegyan7464]

Reeve was the ideal superman, right out the comic book..

[@johnpaulkane5977]

And the superman uniform perfect

[@JENDALL714]

The costume fit and looked right, no padding necessary.

[@parsman9914]

He was a great Silver Age Superman.

[@overcomerbtboj]

He sure was- he resembled superman so closely from the comics as did lynda carter for wonder woman- there’s a reason why it took decades for both franchises to be rebooted- they both left an unforgettable stamp in the superhero/heroine realm for genXers like me

[@DD2225]

Thank Darth Vader (David Prowse) for that. Reeves was not the studios first choice for the part because he was too thin. Prowse help Reeve bulk up to look the part.

[@raca722]

This movie is as old as I am. I’ve seen it hundreds of times. I STILL cry tears of joy and pride at this scene.

[@martinkuliza]

Me too, mate Every single time

[@82dexy]

Everyone played it so well The score Zods pain of getting his hand crushed Ursas look of panic/worry Just magic in the whole scene

[@Dr.Dave.W]

I was 13 when I first saw this in the theater and I went NUTS watching this scene! Incredibly well done, from the sound effects of the bones crushing, to Zod’s expression of pain and horror, to that amazing music. “What more could anyone ask?” In retrospect, I can’t believe I didn’t see it coming when the red lights were literally on inside the fortress, but off inside the molecule chamber. Oh well, I was just a kid….

[@gargantuaism]

A time when there wasn't a superhero movie out every two weeks. These felt special.

[@omartinoco9930]

Thank you for noticing the emphasis on cinema unlike present movies which go directly to cable and satellite services after one week.

[@danielwood6833]

There used to be something special about seeing Spider-Man swing around the corner with the light beaming on him as the hero theme blasts. Now it's all just meh and hell the effects looked better in 2014 that 2019

[@JR-ju3kj]

I understand what you meant but I still think that that's an exaggeration.There still really aren't that many Super Hero movies out per year in comparison to other genres of movies. But Superman 1 and 2 were definitely special.You'll get no argument from me about that.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

I remember how excited we were as kids when they announced Superman on TV. Now that I see the announcement for some new superhero movie, I'm like "ahh $hit, again".

[@uberduke]

I get that Superman was special, but I think you're viewing it with nostalgia. There is a huge appetite for superhero movies, provided they are good and satisfying; and there were less well received movies in every decade. Even the later Superman (Christopher Reeve) movies had lower ratings than the first few, IIRC. I think it's a good thing there are more superhero movies - actors do age, so you don't get that same continuity if they're not on the screen with a new plot, and the movies need a reboot every decade. Also, it does help with tying in different superheroes like in Justice League and The Avengers - this allows them to have far bigger storylines and epics

[@carlitobrigante4999]

It's amazing how I still get the same goosebumps watching this scene as i did when i was 8 years old. Long live the original and my opinion- greatest superman

[@thedarkjw6219]

Live action

[@jandestiny626]

Zod's suffering is absolutely legendary, as well as the SFX of that hand being crushed

[@arisiordan9067]

The best Superman all the time. You live always in our hearts Christopher!

[@245-TRIOXIN]

Agreed. He will always be THE Superman. Pure movie magic. Still get the goosebumps when watching this one and the first one.

[@Robby4291]

STILL is.

[@southsideman4891]

AMEN AND AMEN!

[@paulallday1396]

Yes he is the best superman of all time the one and only superman

[@espadamt8839]

Henry is better

[@Holden308]

Lex Luthor, ruler of Australia.....as an Aussie this always makes me laugh. Then again, Lex would probably do a better job than any of our shithole politicians.

[@4BThen2Say]

Rly? Ok

[@PJxBuchwild]

If you want to be technical about this Lex Luther was the president in various comics and in Superman Red Son he ran a perfect economy out of the USA so if he was serious about it he would do great things

[@katk426]

imagine one of your politicians replying

[@flynn8845]

true

[@mylovesongs2429]

Paul Hogan, ruler of Australia! Wait, no! It's Angus Young!

[@soulstar1840]

I remember watching that part when superman squeezes his hand as a child and absolutely lost my mind in the theater with joy since I can remember superman has been my favorite

[@johnbaker3761]

Same!:)

[@jamesireland2732]

I hope you gained your mind back. Absolutely, even.

[@amykelly933]

Christopher Reeve was absolute perfection as Superman. I'm a grown woman and I've still got a little girl crush on him in 2023.

[@shaz2761]

Yes, a very underused actor. He was perfect casting for supes

[@lewish_1476]

He's made for superman and always will be

[@RedLP5000S]

And blessed with a score by John Williams. Magical.

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

1980 fans: Superman kills Zod, everyone is okay about it 2013 fans: Superman kills Zod and everyone loses their minds My oh my times have certainly changed

[@louisborselio8608]

There's no evidence of death in the 1980 version. They could just merely be contained in a fortress zone prison or something.

[@shawnjohnson9763]

There's a deleted scene where cops are shown arresting Zod and the others after this.

[@sapphire163]

and Zod had no powers in the 1980 version, so he was no longer a threat.

[@mattkylie6723]

Warhawkbeyond2040 In the extended edition Superman doesn’t kill Zod, the powerless Kryptonians get led away in a police snow patrol Range Rover

[@crimsoncomet3756]

1980: Zod is powerless therefore he can be easily arrested by police. There's no need to kill him. 2013: Zod is as strong as Kal(maybe stronger since he's a godamn General of Kryptonian army). Kill him is necessary because he's capable to destroy the entire earth and *he intend to do it* Stupid fans logic: I hate MoS because he kill Zod. *Zod is powerless* , don't kill him Superman, you're not a murderer.

[@MegaKrisso]

My God! Christopher Reeve you were a magnificent specimen! They just don’t make them like you anymore!! We all miss you Superman!! Fly High!! Your will never be forgotten and your portrayal of Superman will NEVER be matched!! ♥️♥️♥️

[@JonathanBresnihan77]

This was an epically classic scene from the BEST of the Superman movies.

[@questworldmatrix]

Does whispering really help behind people with super hearing?

[@johnhyout]

Superman's plan would still had worked even if Zod would have had listen.

[@JukeboxJoeB]

@@johnhyout Not necessarily. If Zodd had simply listened in to the conversation, he may have been fooled but he may have also assumed that it was a set-up because Superman knows Zodd has super hearing and might therefore have expected that Zodd would be listening. The whole point of the scene was supposed to be that Superman acts like he is trusting Luthor but in reality counting on Luthor to betray him. But that's also why the scene never made any sense to me. Since Superman's enemies all had super hearing and Superman was well aware of that, the whole "whispering a secret to Lex" concept never really made any sense.

[@johnhyout]

@@JukeboxJoeB yes and no, Zod and his gang were still quite new super power users and they were prone to missed certain details, for instance Ursa was surprised that humans were using Helicopters ("look!... they use machines to fly!", so Krytonians did not have flying vehicles?), since she was assuming everyone could fly in the planet.

[@leandar]

@@johnhyout No, she knew Kryptonians couldn't fly on Krypton, she was mocking them because they could fly on Earth and humans can't.

[@TheTrainFan9]

Have you made your decision then?

[@0IDaveCouch]

Lex Luthor, ruler of Australia.

[@thecamberwellcarrot4926]

He'd be a better PM than the one we got now.

[@maximuscaligula]

- and Cuba. In the alternate TV cut, Zod grants Luthor being the ruler of Cuba as well as Australia. 'Guess Luthor really does like beachfront property...

[@25mfd]

...coulda' got anything... but all he asked for was...…... Australia...?????????????..... really...???????

[@frozencloud17]

Plenty of poisonous snakes in Australia.

[@calvinharris3153]

Lex Luther for president 2024

[@thomasphan4525]

Thank you Christopher Reeves. You truly made me believe a man can fly.

[@kennethwayne6857]

It's Reeve but you're right!

[@scinnyc]

😂I never understood why people were so upset about Superman killing Zod in Man Of Steel when he literally had already did it here

[@papalaz4444244]

and he depowered them so nobody was in any danger and he tortured Zod first.

[@ilikethecokev2]

Because people weren't wusses back then

[@zciliyafilms5508]

I asked this in a whole lot of places and never got a good answer.

[@damienholland9244]

@@ilikethecokev2 They were wusses just in other ways.

[@ilikethecokev2]

@@damienholland9244 They became BIGGER ones over time

[@BrandonKohout]

Luthor, you poisonous snake!

[@nathancruz9172]

Brandon Kohout 0:15 😆

[@MMAfighter38113]

Brandon Kohout a snake is venomous, not poisonous.

[@CaringMind]

Yeah, but Luthor pissed superman off all kinds of special, that superman didnt know what else to say

[@MMAfighter38113]

Caring Mind well he left him behind in the FOS, depending which version you watch.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

That's got to be the nastiest thing Superman has ever said on film

[@Packer1290]

I love how Reeves sells the “I’m really weak now” after walking out of the chamber. Makes you think he has barely enough strength to walk.

[@MrSoccerball100]

@@Bot23 Bruh

[@gigaatom]

@@Bot23 nah bro you could've left it wtf

[@davidhawley1132]

It's all that practice as Clark Kent.

[@mertalawiscious2873]

Posed to just make you normal not all week and lame like Superman was acting

[@Incel_81]

By doing that he really trolled Zod. Lmao.

[@d.c.barker]

RIP Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder...you were a great part of my childhood and you will never be forgotten.

[@ZillaTheTegu]

So many people complained that Superman would never kill in the Man of Steel movie, but like to forget he killed 3 people including Zod in this one.

[@paulgoodwin81]

This will never get old for me. Christopher Reeve was truly Superman.

[@DVankeuren]

Reeve ;)

[@paulgoodwin81]

@@DVankeuren Thanks. Damn predictive.

[@azher191]

Superman's "Mind over muscle" gesture at 3:06 is such great trolling payback to Luthor from the first movie. Luthor's little chuckle after shows he's actually impressed lol 😂

[@AnthonyD-sf9jf]

Staring from 2:28: years ago my brother and I acted out this scene in the car while my mom was driving. We did everything from the sound effects to imitating Zod's scream and me flying to the windshield. My mom yelled at us pretty good and made us sit separately. Ah memories.. 😂😂😂

[@Evan490BC]

She should have done the Lois Lane move as well.

[@PC2000]

That's impressive that you went so far as flying to the windshield. That's commitment right there.

[@fredwerza3478]

Me and my buddies would wrestle around in the early 80's in the backyard --- our favorite thing to do was get one of us in a chokehold and force him to kneel and we'd say "now take my hand and swear eternal loyalty to Zod" LOL

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Sweet story!

[@trevortachankaericrodrigue5020]

sssssshhhhhhhh

[@obiwan2112]

This was the best of the Superman movies, and this scene was absolutely spectacular!

[@paulmacdonald1408]

1980: Superman murders a powerless zod in cold blood with a smile on his face. Fans: What a hero! 2013: Superman snaps zod neck to stop him from killing a family and feels great regret and guilt afterwards. Fans: sUpErMaN dOeSnT kIlL!!

[@prestonmcleod1726]

He had no choice in the 2013 Man Of Steel version, Zod was bout 2 kill a bunch of innocent victims, & Superman did what he had 2 do. Not 2 mention he showed remorse afterwards.

[@CainNuke]

He didnt kill Zod in this movie...

[@negativeindustrial]

@@prestonmcleod1726 Are you Prince? Then why are you typing like it’s 1999?

[@prestonmcleod1726]

@@negativeindustrial No I'm not Prince, I chose 2 write that way

[@Jeff-lc7lp]

I didn't even know about this lmao

[@jamalnasir1975]

It could've been the greatest sequel, only if Donner had entirely directed it & not Lester!

[@jamalnasir1975]

Yeah but the principle scenes between Kidder and Reeve, Kryptonian villains dominating the Metropolis were missing, which Donner couldn't shoot!

[@jamesamick2945]

Donner DID direct it, he directed 75 percent of it, then they brought in someone else to direct the other 25 percent. Sad he wasn't even credited as director til 2006 when their was a special dvd release.

[@stevemartell8834]

@@jamesamick2945 but also chopped away huge chunks of Donner footage to claim full director credit. The theatrical cut is only about 30% Donner.

[@jamesamick2945]

Donner had plans for a third Superman film involving braniac, he has said in interviews he always wanted to make that film. If they make a man of steel sequel with Henry cavill I would bring in donner as director. He could include some things he wasn't able to in the original films, like braniac. I know he's still directing because he's at least slated to direct lethal weapon 5, so that's why I'd love to see richard donner direct a Superman film with Henry cavill. The Superman films of today are so dark, they need the humor that richard donner brought to the originals.

[@jamesamick2945]

I mean a standalone man of steel sequel with just Superman, I think richard donner would be perfect for that.

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

2:30 That actually looks painful as hell! 😂😂😂 The actor who was playing Zod was actually a really good actor!

[@dmkappa62]

Terrance Stamp is brilliant

[@44aske]

Yes He is quite a good actor one can see it his face.

[@kelpie1533]

82 and still going strong, most recently in His Dark Materials. Legend.

[@fluttershylover1988]

Same actor who plays Chancellor valorum in Star Wars episode 1 The Phantom Menace.

[@sha11235]

Terrence Stamp has had a long career, before and after this. He was very good in this role. And in real life, his hand wasn't crushed, it was just sound effects and Chris was just squeezing his hand regularly while Terry screamed in pain.

[@jamesgoring4980]

Christopher Reeve IS and will ALWAYS ever BE Superman!

[@capitolia]

He was born for that role!

[@Michael-jw6et]

I still say that this is one of the best endings of any movie in history. I remember being a kid and thinking superman was beat. I was crushed, and then when he crushes his hand and the music starts. It was just amazing.

[@BrandonKohout]

Lex Luthor, ruler of Australia, activate the machine.

[@nathancruz9172]

Brandon Kohout 0:31

[@erictoniaschwab1009]

Always loved that line 😆

[@TazarZero]

Yeah, I laughed too.

[@wonphi]

Lex Luthor: "Cheers mate"

[@nelsin-nagantkimber-g4760]

The cracking of Zod's hand-bones somehow always makes me laugh.

[@nosuchthing8]

I felt sorry for zod.

[@robmiller7347]

No his response makes me laugh,”haaaaaah ahhhhh”

[@DivvayKhatri]

But that cracking of neck makes everybody hate mos

[@bullock4211]

The face he makes as they're cracking was it for me.

[@jdxsr85]

@@DivvayKhatri Lmao yeah. They say he was a murderer for breaking Zod's neck but he had no choice and had to act quick in that moment. This Supes breaks Zod's hand and picks him up and tosses him to his death all with a smile. Pretty unnecessary lol.

[@mrfurly1319]

I remember when this premiered on HBO in like 1982. 40 years later and it’s is still my favorite superhero movie.

[@Pluty80]

Can’t believe this movie is 42 years old wow times flies by with the quickness..

[@actioncom2748]

Technically, Zod got everything he wanted. If only for a moment

[@Batman-jc5uc]

Zod is the only villain I can think of in an movie who successfully took over the entire planet Earth.

[@actioncom2748]

@@Batman-jc5uc The only one I can think of is Colossus: the Forbin project.

[@Batman-jc5uc]

@@actioncom2748 I never even heard of that, but for a main stream movie Zod is the only villain who successfully conquered and took control of Earth.

[@actioncom2748]

@@Batman-jc5uc What I like about this plot point is the overall 'meaning.' Basicly, the House of EL doesn't owe Zod anything anymore. Zod's goal was to rule and have Jor El's heir bow before him. He got both. Now...he's done. You're dismissed, General!

[@bdjoh011]

@@actioncom2748 Yep, Zod finally got from Jor-el's son and the planet Earth what he failed to do at Krypton and was then finished off for good.

[@bomouth142]

So when THIS superman kills Zod, everyone's cool with it. When Snyder's superman does it, everyone get all uppity about it.

[@brocklesnar3802]

Bo Mouth, Where the facts, we need proof

[@DivvayKhatri]

@@brocklesnar3802 what proof? It's common knowledge that the new sups is a "murderer" who doesn't care about life... People are getting more and more delusional by day. They always fanboy after Christopher Reeves and when a more realistic interpretation comes to the screen, everyone goes against it

[@bomouth142]

@@DivvayKhatri this. Clearly @Brock Lesnar wasn't paying attention when Man of Steel came out and everyone said "Superman killed Zod!?!?!? Superman doesn't kill!!"

[@brocklesnar3802]

Bo Mouth, that was in a inescapable circumstance because of the boundaries at play, there were zero paths to an alternative conclusion and the casualty numbers needed to be reduce of sustainability

[@DivvayKhatri]

@@brocklesnar3802 we are both being sarcastic and we both know that Cavill's Superman is the best

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

My favorite out of all the superman movies! Christopher Reeve was the best!

[@thesaintst1851]

All these years later and Chris Reeves is STILL the best supes!

[@DarthAverage]

Correction: many actors have played Superman. Christopher Reeve WAS Superman!

[@drew2fast489]

Yep!! That's facts!

[@drew2fast489]

@@DarthAverage He IS.

[@farid1406]

By far. Something I never noticed before is how clever/boyishly witty Reeves Superman is. "Haven't you ever heard of freedom of the press, Zod?" and the little smile at Lex after he pulls this stunt. It's such a piece of humanity that the Cavil Superman totally lacks (not his fault of course, Cavil could have been great too)

[@andyraphael]

The best you mean the only supe

[@vassa1972]

Great stuff RIP to both Christopher Reeve and to the lady who played Lois Lane. Loved these original films

[@vassa1972]

@Jose M. Figueroa Jr. hello and good morning from Hamilton Ontario Canada Mr Jose Figueroa jr thanks for the response I knew who the actress was at the tip of my toung lol take care and have a good weekend coming up I'll be 47 years old on the 15th

[@xioricifer654]

When she passed she deprived the world of a marvelous right hook. May she rest in peace.

[@gkroll8467]

looks like they gave sarah douglas asome white make up on her face

[@AqwDragulum]

the Lex Luthor actor, Gene Hackman, is 90 years old now :(

[@mylovesongs2429]

@Silent Hill Warrior 5 at least they did not say "Margot Kiddler"!

[@_Some_Guy_]

2:25 LOL at the smirk on Zods face when he gives Superman his hand, then the look on his face and the noise he makes when his hand is shattered

[@BrettMorin]

Favorite scene of a young child ever. Watching this in the early 1980's as a child, ultimate good versus evil moment ever!

[@jamesrfb]

I have been told that when this movie first played in theaters, the audience EXPLODED when Superman pulled the switch on the Phantom Zone villains. I love how even Lex Luthor is chuckling about it, too.

[@xdmaster7888]

Yeah I saw it with my family in 1981 in one of those theatres that had over 1,000 seats, and when Superman crushed Zod's hand everyone in the audience just started cheering wildly and didn't stop until Lois had punched out Ursa. BTW, a deleted scene confirms that neither Superman or Lois killed anyone, the three now-pathetic and completely un-powerful villains were arrested by an Arctic patrol called in by Superman.

[@MarklovesAngels]

Saw it with my family opening week. When Superman begins to kneel, my mother said out loud to herself, "Oh, no, evil has won." She was totally invested in the movie! The theater cheered and clapped as the music and knuckle cracking began. By the time the diner/bully scene started, people were jumping in their seats, thrilled at the set-up and eventual payoff. Great story-telling and fun movies!

[@SuperKamiGuru-i3c]

Goddamn the SOUND his hands makes while it's breaking

[@starwarsrebel2006]

It's the same sound of the Rebel officer's neck being crushed by Darth Vader in A New Hope. Fyi, they made that sound by breaking celery in half.

[@JasonSmith-vp6vl]

And you'd think, OK, a bit harsh but he deserved some kind of consequences for his actions so he probably won't ever be able to use that hand again since the bones were pulverized.... but then Superman just cold blood executes him.

[@Xfactories]

@@JasonSmith-vp6vl Noo nooo they're safe in an ice prison down the bottom of the chasm.

[@Corgblam]

This is a man that likely hasnt felt real pain in a very long time, and the first pain he feels is probably the most excruciating pain he could possibly feel of every bone in his hand being turned to dust.

[@NickTheYoungHistorian]

3:13 Nice punch Lois.

[@BrandonKohout]

Lois was right about Ursa she's a real pain in the neck.

[@gibbs615]

That's why I LIKE HER!!!😃😂

[@monddubb9792]

Ursa was good looking in her own way. I liked her in Conan too👍

[@lavo-ld4wm]

@@monddubb9792 and in The People That Time Forgot

[@NickTheYoungHistorian]

@HeathGallagher-xc1bh That is a big surprise, there.

[@sirgerar2006]

This is still the best DC movie. Even with todays CGI effects this takes the cake 🎂

[@fabarangan]

Kryptonians have super hearings. I guess that's part of Superman's plan.

[@crashpal]

reverse psychology. Clark WANTED Zod to hear them despite making it look like whispering a plan

[@tombstoneharrystudios584]

ManOfSteelPrime he knows Lex will betray him, but also figures that the Krypton supervillains would assume he’s naive & too goody two shoes to even contemplate such a plan They’re so used to winning by force in hand to hand combat that such a move is inconceivable, therefore bound to work! Also like how Lex smiles in admiration to Superman. I think Lex kinda figured he’d be disposable to Zod once he’s got his way, and as much as he’d love to rule the world he enjoys battling wits with Superman

[@kylewaldman508]

Who noticed the giant pit stain under his arm when he lifts zod? 🤣🤣

[@Harry_S._Plinkett]

Hey it’s hot in those ice caves

[@Edi_J]

Men sweat. Super-men, well... you get the idea ;)

[@lavo-ld4wm]

A secret superpower?

[@stevensmith8876]

Well spotted 👍

[@Dog-Jet]

Its literally all I see

[@ericl20881]

There are 2 movie scenes in the history of cinema that to me are so epic that I hold above all scenes. One is when Rocky ran through the streets of Philadelphia with all the kids following him and then up the steps. This is the other one. I would’ve loved to have been at the movie theater watching this scene just to see the audience reaction. Christopher Reeve is, was, and always will be, the real life Superman.

[@michaelbehar5309]

To this day, I believe this is the best superhero scene of all time

[@jeaustardeau5718]

3:07 When you realize that Christopher Reeve created the "now you're thinking" meme way before the Eddie Murphy look-a-like dude.

[@nitesee6295]

I'm crying!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@eq1373]

"mind over muscle" from Superman I

[@jasoncarroll8803]

I've seen this scene a million times and always thought Superman was very nonchalant the way he dealt with Zod, but watching it now, I can see he is really trying to hurt him. Look at Reeve's face when he squeezes, and then look at how deliberately he twists Zod's clothes before picking him up. He is PISSED.

[@dennisrodash3763]

When the real actors shone and the special effects were just "props." As it should be. Period.

[@GregMoress]

Meet Joe Black didn't even use 'props', yet it was believable.

[@MegaSkycap]

Saw this in the theatres as a child. I watch it again from time to time.... and it never gets old. One of the greatest twists ever. Pretty close to Darth chucking the Emperor.

[@CronksNewBrothel]

ONE OF THE BEST SEQUELS OF ALL TIME!!!! reeve IS FOREVER SUPERMAN

[@oscarrobledo547]

I loved Terence Stamp as Zod. His arrogance, mannerisms, tone was perfect for that villain.

[@Okiedog1]

I love that little head shake he does. "I don't think so."

[@antoniogirgenti9738]

Now that's a brilliant way to defeat an enemy.

[@neneshubby]

I like how Ursa even screams in a British accent.

[@robertocampos9965]

Uma cena memorável, onde o Superman vence o General Zod usando a inteligência. Aliás, Chistopher Reeve é, sem dúvida alguma, o melhor Superman da História.

[@clementine2234]

What language is this? I speak Spanish and somehow understood what this comment is saying lol

[@fivestarman5130]

I'm not a massive fan of Zack Snyders interpretation of Superman but I always find it hilarious how people lost their minds when Superman killed Zod by snapping his neck when he was actively trying to murder innocent civilians but nobody ever talks about this where Superman takes away his powers, effectively turning him into an average person, crushes his hand and then throws him into a crevice to his death when he's already in agonizing pain

[@jayvictus80]

I think Henry Cavill did an excellent job conveying his emotions in that scene...he shows the heartbreak for having to kill someone of his own kind to save helpless people

[@aracelymoran2504]

@fivestarman5130 Great post. I would like to add that I assume Stamp's Zod (which emodied so well the Silver Age villain which was the refernece at the time) and Zone mates died falling into the crevice. Very anti climatic ending for a great villain and his posse. Too good of a villain to not have as recurring. So Snyder doing the same but different I never understood the hate and criticism if that is how it was done in SM II. However those people's reference of Zod was Post Infinite Crisis, and Zod was reintorduced and a main villain of SM and was not killed off but always sent to the PZ, and those who remembered Silver Age (Pre Crisis OIE) Zod, never saw that happen either. So there is that. But if the crevice was not deep (foggy so you don't know) they could have survived, lingering as mere humans to find a way to reactavte their powers again (which is what happened when they tried to reintroduce Zod after Post Crisis OIE).

[@trebleaaa]

Such a good point. And he did it so intentionally too 😅😅.

[@StareachValcin]

Superman didn't kill Zod in this scene, unlike how man of steel had Superman kill Zod.

[@DanielAppleton-lr9eq]

@@aracelymoran2504 they would have been Kryptonsicles. If the plunge didn't kill them straightaway, they would've died of hypothermia. But at least their corpses wouldn't stink up the Fortress from putrefaction.

[@johnturcsik2906]

Both this and Richard Donner cut is fantastic