Reacting to 30 Harry Potter PLOT HOLES

[@konqu3rthe1st80]

To really answer the flaw of the 7 potters plot hole you have to remember that Dumbledore told Snape he had to give the Death Eaters the real plan... This means no matter what the plan was it would get interrupted.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

OHHH GOOD ANSWER. Plus, that would mean that if the death eaters attacked them on muggle transport, it would cause a massive secrecy breach, so he couldn't possibly make mundungus suggest that plan to the order. So not only was Snape keeping up Voldemort's trust in him, he was also protecting the Statute of Secrecy.

[@abelmeszlenyi77]

Yeah I was thinking the same I thought he was konna say this part

[@bendowson3124]

Snape gave the date, but not the 7 potters plan. Snape caused Mundungus to think it was his idea in order to maintain Voldemort's trust.

[@mortarteam11]

But what everybody is missing is that Voldemort wanted to kill Harry himself, so by turning 6 people into Harry, they essentially protected them from killing curses from every Death Eater, because they would not risk hitting the real Harry by accident. The fact that they killed Moody after Mundungus disapparated was because they no longer risked killing actual Harry, if the curse would miss.

[@koshnaranek4442]

@mortarteam11 Actually, I think that Voldemort was the one that chased Moody, so there is no conflict with the order of who was to kill Harry.

[@papasquatofficial9282]

I think some people confuse plot holes with characters not making the perfect decisions, because they’re human.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

That's such a good point.

[@Warzulu77]

Literally perfect. Sometimes there's simply too many things to take into perspective, especially with JK's fantasy world.

[@thorthewolf8801]

There is a difference between not making perfect decisions because of understandable reasons, and making out of character mistakes, which for a character that is characterized by their cleverness can be considered a plot hole. Also, if the characters in the story are humans, then that is moreso true for the writer making them, therefore JK is capable of mistakes, namely, plot holes.

[@klaudiagrob]

Yes good point. Just like that marauders map thing, this a problem created by the movie makers.

[@One.Zero.One101]

If the character never even considered the logical decision, or didn't have a good reason to ignore the logical decision, then it is a plot hole.

[@mrsentimental1995]

For the polyjuice potion voice, it's easy, from a film perspective didn't do that because they wanted the audience to remember it's a disguise. As for Barty as Mad-Eye, he clearly disguised his voice willingly to maintain his cover. It doesn't need overthinking.

[@Verezen]

The vice change is just a plot device, it was used to prevent viewers from getting confused. With Barty as Mad-Eye, the story needed him to be secret, and you could also see it as the story being from Harry’s perspective and since he didn’t know Bsrty was Moody, we wouldn’t be able to tell either.

[@v.kinga25]

I think they could have kept barty's voice because we haven't heard his or mad-eye's voice before

[@mrsentimental1995]

@@Verezen exactly

[@NIH1966]

In the movie, they try to address this by showing Barty as Mad-Eye doing an impression of Hagrid at the end. I think they wanted to show that Barty was good at voices.

[@leewhite2195]

​@@v.kinga25Dumbledore for one knows Moody's real voice though.

[@annabradshaw213]

For plot hole 3 - In the books, they did multiply their food, and Hermione also pointed out that while she could multiply it, it wasn't creating any more nutrition in the food so it was only to satiate their hunger, but the nutrients were still being split in thirds. For the plot hole of Ron and Hermione getting out of the Chamber of Secrets - they used the flying broom that was in the room with the keys. As far as the sorting, the houses are much more nuanced than those brief descriptions. Slytherin is not evil, it is for those who will put their ambitions above all else and nurtures that, which, to be fair, does tend to turn out evil tendencies. Thank you for this fun video!

[@Alduinhead]

It's pretty clear that several of these plotholes came from people who haven't read the books for a long time, if ever

[@EcbluejaysSC]

Was it stated in the book that Ron and Hermione got out of the Chamber of Secrets on a broom attained from the room of keys? Those are completely different areas of the castle. I dont remember what was actually said in the book, but that doesnt make sense to me. Ron got a broom from somewhere, but from the room of keys isnt adding up.

[@mr.cheese7339]

@@EcbluejaysSC In some editions of the Deathly Hallows, Ron was described to have a broomstick under his arm.

[@EcbluejaysSC]

@@mr.cheese7339 but do any of them say where the broom was grabbed from? Im questioning where he obtained the broom, not that he had one.

[@annabradshaw213]

@@EcbluejaysSC Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I think I was thinking of the Sorcerer's Stone! Head smack! ;-p

[@brittneybossidy2877]

To answer the Alohemora question, in the sixth book when Tonks is walking back up to the castle with Harry after finding him after being attacked by Draco, Harry tried using alohomora but Tonks explained that Dumbledore had bewitched the locks so you couldn’t use that spell. (p.159)

[@MegaGandalf12]

Sirius wasn't given a trial. He was thrown straight into Azkaban by Crouch senior.

[@TheRealTricky]

Good point. We could wonder if anybody got a fair trial. Crouch sr. was very desperate to show the wizarding world how many Death Eaters he could get into jail. When his own son was on trial it was clear it didn't even matter if Crouch jr. was an actual Death eater or not (the movie said the evidence was overwhelming but in the book Sirius says the exact opposite and that nobody knew if Crouch jr. was guilty or not, so it was actually dumb luck he turned out to be one). The "trial" Bagman got also shows this, but Bagman was saved by his Quidditch successes. So basically we can say that verataserum wasn't used in that trial for the same reason it wasn't used in Harry's trial. They couldn't risk Verataserum turning out to be evidence of innosense.

[@garcardosotan6172]

True Potion is illegal... Does no one realize this? If you can use it on the criminals, it can be used, just as easily, on you. No politician would want that. XD

[@robertocazzaniga5548]

@@garcardosotan6172 plus, muggles and the aurors saw Sirius laughing hysterically. That was like a proof of his guilt

[@TheRealTricky]

@@garcardosotan6172 Not only that. Who knows what those criminals may all reveal. You'd be surprised how far political heavyweights are often involved in the most repulsive crimes, and it's clear the wizarding world is no different from the muggle world in that regard. You never know for sure what these criminals know and could therefore reveal what could bring political heavy weights in trouble.

[@garcardosotan6172]

@@robertocazzaniga5548 I mean, kinda. It was mostly the bike and secret keeper thing.

[@matthewpatrick7263]

McGonagall told Umbridge exactly how many years she'd been teaching in Order of the Phoenix. She was put in the Fantastic Cashgrabs movies as a memberberry, and also to pretend that Dumbledore was the DADA teacher instead of Transfiguration, which was revealed in Chamber of Secrets.

[@somebodykares1]

There could be a loophole if they consider it. Minerva McGonagall's great-grandmother Minerva Ross could have still been alive before the 1930's when our Minerva was said to have been born. Wizards live longer lifes then Humans so Great-Grandma Minerva could be the possible answer. While yes genetics would prevent this, we don't know if Wizard genetics have a stronger impact on the appearance over the Human half, seeing Minerva is said to be a Half-Blood, but we don't know if Great-Grandma Minerva was a pure blood or not.

[@The_Ninja_Tree]

I mean Dumbledore could have been DADA for a time in his youth not very surprising given his past fight against the dark arts

[@pinkski9175]

First fantastic beasts was okay at best. The rest fucking sucked. I legit could not finish the third one

[@Betsybel0726]

Yes, fighting off a bogart could be a defense against the dark arts class because it is defending yourself against a dark creature, but this spell transfigures a creature from something scary to something funny so it could also been used as a way to teach how transfiguration works in a theory type of class

[@yukalue]

​@@The_Ninja_Treepottermore confirmed it. After Riddle cursed the position Dumbledore taught it on and off when they couldnt get a teacher.

[@Xeyxey0]

Actually, the one about the death eaters' wands is a really good point. Bellatrix's wand is specifically used as identification, unless we're meant to believe she re-registered her replacement wand at Gringotts following her escape? When she was a fugitive? I don't think Charlie's wand was one that chose him, either, it probably belonged to one of Molly's brothers, but to Ron it was "Charlie's old wand".

[@garcardosotan6172]

We don't actually know who every deatheater is by job, right? If one is in magical law enforcement, they could have simply, hidden the wands?

[@joshuagray8140]

If I remember right. Ollivander said in Deeathly Hallows (book) that he was forced to make a new wand for Bellatrix, as well as the other Deatheaters.

[@kennyearthling7965]

I think she (or her family) had extra wands, she was wealthy

[@Bloodyman213]

I dont think the wands were snapped in the books, i think they disarmed them and kept their wands in Azkaban or at the ministry, which then a spy at the ministry could have just taken them and left fakes in their place.

[@marcelsgroot]

Yes but I assume you refer to the identification In deadly hollows at gringots when in fact Hermoine was Bellatrix and at that time Voldemort allready had the ministry and then it would have been very easy to have the wand registered

[@generallegath974]

5:56 This theory that only the four Marauders can see each other on the map falls short when you consider that in the book of Prisoner of Azkaban, Snape tracks Lupin to the Whomping Willow by seeing his movement on the map left open on his desk. Also, in the books, Harry literally sees Peter Pettigrew's name on the map before he is confronted by Snape after a trip out to Hogsmeade.

[@Thecupthatrapmonthrows]

Maybe it is like ‘only marauders can see each other when they are in their animagus form on the map’ ? Because this would explain why no one saw peter for years on the map because he was always in his rat form for those years when twins had it? That would explain a lot

[@MissSimone02]

I think it still holds because Lupin is the one who opened the map. Until you close it with "Mischief Managed" (or whatever the phrase is), it would still be operating under the previous opener.

[@asdf-y2c]

harry spotting peters name is a movie only. In the books that never happens

[@generallegath974]

@@asdf-y2c You are correct, I misremembered that scene in the book.

[@SamAshworth91]

I've always just thought that they probably weren't looking too hard at Griffindor tower, they'd have been using it sneak around the castle and avoid Filch and the teachers.

[@elainemccormack5346]

For how Hagrid got to the island to tell Harry he was a wizard, I personally believe he did a Mary Poppins and flew across the water with his umbrella. Im pretty sure he said that his umbrella had pieces of his wand, so it definitely would have been able to do that. I also just think that Hagrid flying over a lake with a pink umbrella would be hilarious.

[@breashah810]

yes!! I recently picked up the series again to reread and Hagrid's response to Olivander asking whether Hagrid still uses his wand felt odd to me. hagrid clutches his umbrella upon being asked that question and we see him use the umbrella for magic many times up to that point.

[@occheermommy]

I believe JK has said that Dumbledore had healed his wand with the Elder Wand and it was hidden in the umbrella. I could be wrong and that may just be a fan theory but I thought I heard she confirmed it.

[@AntH423]

One plot hole that’s always interested me is how Aunt Petunia didn’t know Harry wasn’t allowed to use magic outside of school the summer between his first and second year. Lilly was a witch, so shouldn’t she know that she wasn’t allowed to use magic? I guess you could say she was so jealous of Lilly that she didn’t pay enough attention to her to notice, but it always had my mind wondering.

[@Digdigi]

Or maybe lily and petunia stopped talking altogether since petunia bullied lily and lily never told her shit about her life. I never read books so if I am wrong then I am sorry

[@catecliff]

I always wondered that too. And the part where they brought Harry to Kings Cross for the first time and they were laughing about leaving him because they didn’t think platform 9 and 3/4 existed… but in the prince’s tale they say Petunia is on platform 9 and 3/4 with Lily and their parents. So she should have known that the platform does exist.

[@AntH423]

@@catecliff Oh yeah, I forgot that she was on platform 9 and 3/4. That's another good question

[@AntH423]

@@Digdigi I think they still talked, but they didn’t have a strong bond because Petunia was jealous. It’s been a minute since I’ve read the books, but I’m pretty sure Lily mentioned something about Petunia sending her a vase for Christmas in the note she wrote to Sirius that Harry reads in the Deathly Hallows.

[@kejingjing1870]

Or she just forgot. As humans we forget a lot of stuff. And she was young at that time so a lot of years have passed since when her sister was at Hogwarts.

[@LogianoPiano]

Why is ‘impirio’ an UNFORGIVABLE CURSE so regulated but love potions that have similar effects to it?

[@rtbreece]

I agree 100% it’s very close to the Imperius curse your pretty much forcing that person to stay with you even if they don’t find you attractive . Some cruel person may use it to destroy someone else’s relationship because of jealousy you can really screw someone’s life up with it.

[@Black3ight]

perhaps the strenght of a love potion isn't as much as that of a Imperius curse. With Imperio you can literally control someone to do anything you want. as for a love potion it's just messing up with your emotions etc. Strongly suggesting you have feelings for someone.

[@Xeyxey0]

​@@Black3ightYeah, but Merope ****ed Tom Riddle by making him think he loved her. That's absolutely disgusting. It should also be more heavily regulated.

[@Black3ight]

@@Xeyxey0 oh yeah for sure. Love potions are messed up and should be regulated at the very least. But the point was that Imperio is significantly stronger/worse

[@jimmy50908]

The thing with unforgivable curses is that they are unblockable. There is no defense to someone casting it on you. There would be plenty of other spells that can hurt or even kill you, but those are unforgivable because they are unblockable (though the ministry would still punish you for using other killing/torture curses). And yes, although some wizards (like Harry) can throw off the imperious curse, no one can actually stop the curse being put on you.

[@jojotchen]

I think Ron and Hermione definitely used Broomsticks to get out of the Chamber of Secrets because when they met up with Harry again Ron carried one with his arm.

[@danielpotapczuk2155]

As there were still a lot of rocks everywhere, Hermione probably told Ron to stand on a rock with her and then casted Wimgardium Leviosa.

[@PreppyTurtleLover]

@@danielpotapczuk2155but can wimgardium Leviosa spell work on anything including rocks or people

[@danielpotapczuk2155]

@@PreppyTurtleLover Levicorpus is used to transport people and Wimgardium Leviosa to transport objects.

[@shwetawalkar9384]

Exactly ron had a broom

[@hellensanchez2923]

Thank you! I was about to write exactly this! It says that they had a bunch of basilisk fangs, and Ron had a broomstick under his arm

[@Lil_Valor]

7:00 Why would Sirius go through all the trouble concocting quite a difficult potion to use when he literally has the ability to disguise himself. Choosing to just turn into a dog instead of all those extra steps is something he’d absolutely do

[@Proman4713]

11:18 the plan of the Seven Potters was made by Mundungus Fletcher, it was intentionally implanted into his brain by Snape using a confunding charm. This was meant to create Seven Potters so that Snape would be able to gain Voldemort's trust by telling him the right date of Harry's extraction from the Dursleys while still ensuring Voldemort didn't necessarily succeed at it, since if Harry had changed into someone else (or all of them changed into random muggles) and Voldemort knew the date: they would've all died. But with seven Potters and a correct date, Voldemort could intercept the mission but still get confused as to which one is Harry. And since the real Harry was with Hagrid, they couldn't have possibly guessed that they'd put the real Harry with him. That was true, of course, until Harry used expelliarmus which let them know it was him

[@kalegolas]

The thing with Rons hand-me-down wand also was the case with Neville, Neville had his fathers wand for years.

[@NIH1966]

But in Neville's case, his father wouldn't have use for the wand. In Ron's case, Charlie would still need his wand. I did see a theory somewhere that because Charlie worked with dragons, he might have had a new wand made using a particular Dragon heartstring that was even more suited to him, and could therefore give his old wand to Ron. But I think this is still a stretch. Charlie giving Ron his wand still doesn't seem to make much sense.

[@feetenjoyer-ue3uu]

That actually kind of makes sense. Neville’s grandmother would have insisted on him using it, because she was determined that he should live up to his father’s reputation. That seems pretty much in character for her, and obviously Mr. Longbottom wasn’t gonna be using it. Whereas by Charlie Weasley it doesn’t make sense that he would just give away his own

[@JoshLecker]

My initial reaction to this was that while Ron got the wand from Charlie, it was likely a loaner wand in Charlies possession to begin with. Charlie may have actually gotten his first personal wand at that time and hence the loaner could be reloaned again down to Ron. For an 11-year old Ron, having his older brother using it for 7 years, he would probably understand it to be his brothers and not really understand the difference.

[@YariAzQuran]

Are wands that expensive?? 😂

[@matthewpatrick7263]

@@YariAzQuran They're actually cheap considering they're basically the only tool a wizard needs for his entire life, but they are a lot more expensive than what the Weasleys have in their vault.

[@lukebaxter3252]

With Ron and Hermione entering and exiting the Chamber of Secrets, at least in my edition of Deathly Hallows, Ron is described as having a broomstick under his arm, so there you go, not a plothole, they used the broomstick to at least exit the Chamber.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Do you mean you did a fanfic re-write of that book, or that it's just stated in your edition of the DH book that you own?

[@lukebaxter3252]

@@dannylagangonzalez6832 The copy of the book I have mentions this, but it seems to be in other people's editions, based on the comments here.

[@mellow3995]

@@dannylagangonzalez6832 I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not talking about his own fanfiction lmao.

[@darkessraven]

I recall that too. I just commented about it.

[@psychoneko5975]

Can confirm. Ron has a broomstick.

[@simeonbusano7338]

29 of these will be from the Fantastic Beasts series, I’m sure.

[@MetaloidGD]

Wrong

[@BrokensideTV]

wanna edit???

[@MANOFTIME]

Another fantastic beast hater who does not know why they hate it but just because everyone else hates it they also hate it.

[@MetaloidGD]

Literally the exact opposite 💀 29 from the Harry Potter series and 1 from fantastic beasts

[@edschelchang6123]

It's actually the opposite, only 1 plot hole is from Fantastic Beasts

[@EPM9000]

For the Moody/Crounch Jr polyjuic voice plothole. In the movie, during the plot twist, Crouch (as Moody) demonstrates an impression of Hagrid. This shows Crouch is adept at imitating voices. So his voice didn’t change, he is just a much better mimic than other characters have shown to be.

[@rlyman3516]

That’s the movie, in the books it just disguises their voice. The reason the movie had the voices be changed, The first time we saw polyjuice potion was still that the viewers could remember that it’s not actually crab and goyle and because there were so many Harry’s on screen in seven part one, they just wanted us to remember who was who. the fourth movie is just bad.

[@brittanyalexis5272]

With the thestrals thing, maybe Harry was still dealing with Cedric’s death and he just didn’t notice it. When I get depressed or I’m grieving, I get so lost in my head, obvious things will just go unnoticed, so I can kind of understand Harry not seeing them immediately. It’s not that he couldn’t see them, he just wasn’t paying attention.

[@griseldamiller174]

Also, with the 7 Harries plot, it was imperative for lord Voldemort to put his trust on Snape 100%. And he achieved this by giving lord Voldemort the right date the order was moving Harry.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

And telling them exactly what the plan was.

[@matthewpatrick7263]

Because of course, killing Dumbledore wasn't enough. Why on earth would Snape be expected to know what the Order was doing after that? "Funnily enough, I'm not welcome at Order meetings anymore, just because I killed their leader."

[@ambiverter]

It wasn't about trust as I understand it, but about him being proven as a reliable and competent spy. So that he stays in Voldemort's good books. Remember, Snape had still lot of work to do for the good. - Keep his mind intact against Voldemort's legilimency. - Serve as a headmaster so that he can protect students. - Give Harry the Sword of Griffindor. - Tell him at last that he is a Horcrux, and must die.

[@DerpKarp]

The cursed child is gonna take up 31 of all plot holes

[@user-u2h37]

Yup. Someday I’m gonna buy the cursed child and burn it in a bonfire

[@josephj807]

Fr lol

[@bomoose]

more like 100

[@i.marchand4655]

Thankfully, it isn't canon.

[@user-u2h37]

@@i.marchand4655 it is tho? I mean officially. I don’t consider it canon.

[@ivantimofeev6580]

About wands for Death Eaters - I think that other Death Eaters could easily stole some wands for them or kill enough people. Then Bellatrix and the others could easily kill more people, so the wands of those new victims accepted Death Eaters as their masters. Plus later on, they kidnapped Ollivander - and as he said, he made new wands at least for some of them.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Plus I believe that they would have spare wands stored in a mutual location in case that type of thing ever happened.

[@NIH1966]

But doesn't Ollivander identify Bellatrix's wand in Book 7 because he sold it to her? Am I confusing film with book?

[@JahanMisra]

do the books even say that people’s wands are snapped when they go to Azkaban? They snap the wands of people expelled from Hogwarts bc they are never allowed to have a wand again. but not everyone who goes to Azkaban is there for life so they may save their wands

[@danielpotapczuk2155]

Possibly they just knew that they could go to Azkaban, so they might have prepared for the case and just bought some spare wands that they hid somewhere.

[@udraj914]

Doesnt make sense. I remember Hermione saying about Bella's wand, its too much part of her. Its wand that tortured Neville's parents, its the wand that killed Sirius.

[@MarinaTilich]

11:16 that would ruin the plan that made snape be trusted, so then Voldemort would see that snape was lying

[@JoseSR328]

One plot hole about the portkey is that how in the Quidditch World Cup, Cedric managed to land perfectly but in the Tri Wizard Tournament he ended up falling down

[@matthewpatrick7263]

I'd guess that Charlie's original wand was already a hand-me-down, so as soon as Charlie got a job and could afford it, he finally bought his own wand, giving the hand-me-down back to the family. Then Charlie's old wand was the one in the family pile that worked best for him.

[@catterin7815]

fun note: if you play the Harry Potter Hogwarts Mystery game, you are in the same year as Charlie. He mentions that he loves his wand and that he hopes nothing bad ever happens to it. It's a pop up during a DADA class.

[@mariacastillo4121]

​@@catterin7815 Lol, then it is a plot hole. He has no good reason to give it up

[@toodlescae]

​@@mariacastillo4121look at the condition of it when Ron shows it to Harry. Parts of the core were poking out. Charlie graduated in 1991 so he'd used the heck out of his wand in 7-8 years before buying a new one.

[@Primisshorts01]

for the Dennis Creevey one, I think it's just because Umbridge is stupid and only paid attention to the older students, the ones she thought might be a threat to the ministry.

[@IGhengisKhanI]

fred and george know secret ways out, they could have just told him

[@sawanna508]

Also both Creevey brothers unfortunatly manage to sneak back into Hogwarts to take part in the Battle of Hogwarts eventhough they are not supposted to fight because they are underage. It seems they know their ways around.

[@hollypennington4000]

I can't remember where I heard this fan theory, but when you are sorted into a house, it's not based on your personality it's based on what you value most, e.g Neville wasn't brave but he strived to face his fears and meet his peers expectations.

[@jacoxnet2]

Neville was always brave. He also had lots of fears, but he overcame them when it was important. Bravery doesn't mean you don't fear. It means you can overcome fears when necessary. Remember: Neville's bravery in standing up to his friends is why Dumbledore gave Gryffindor the points at the end of the first year to win the house cup.

[@dianef4227]

Plus Dumbledore says (something like) I often think we sort too young Rowling acknowledged the flawed system within the books.

[@fsplays9157]

@@jacoxnet2 ok but that does not explain how some people (Carabbe, Goyle, Draco etc) ended up in slytheryn despite not being particularly cunning/ambitious

[@lycosdevanos]

@@fsplays9157 Bloodline or personal choice. Keep in mind, the sorting hat was going to put Harry into Slytherin, but didn't because Harry didn't want to. And Ron 'knew' he was going to be a Gryffindor because his family had all been Gryffindors.

[@johan.ohgren]

I'd got the impression it's three things 1, the founders values 2, the students characters and 3, the will of the students. A students can match point 1 and 2 for several houses and then number 3 is the deciding factor.

[@haidermalik5744]

Imagine walking into ollivanders to purchase a wand and he’s like “lemme just run a background check on you” and he can’t sell you the wand 💀

[@DaShirtBoy1]

I have an answer for the Death Eaters’ wands plot hole: burner wands. Think about it: if you’re in an organized crime group and you know you’re going to get into a situation where you know it’s super risky, and your identity could be revealed, you’ll have a burner phone. Untraceable, assumed to belong to you; and your main personal unit is kept back at headquarters. In the same vein, after all the people the Death Eaters would have killed during the First Wizarding War, it would make sense for someone from the group to be tasked with collecting all their wands and giving them burner wands that belonged to their victims. That way, when the day comes that someone like Bellatrix gets released from Azkaban, she gets her original wand back and is at full power. We even see it in Deathly Hallows, where Voldemort takes Lucius Malfoy’s wand as his burner wand.

[@tyrannicpuppy]

"Leading to his capture and eventual death..." Sirius using his animagus form didn't have anything to do with his death. He was never actually captured either. He voluntarily went to the Ministry with the rest of the Order to save Harry. His form isn't even mentioned during that battle. It was him not taking Bellatrix seriously that caused his death. It's never even confirmed that the Malfoy's know about or saw Sirius's form. The 'dogging' remark from Draco is the only hint. And Draco's never exactly been subtle with his digs at the group.

[@Boundwithflame23]

Snape said Sirius was recognized though. It was during the argument about Snape teaching Harry Occlumency

[@corentinrichard9864]

Considering Ron did not know that Sirius 'betrayed' the Potters or that the Longbottoms lost their minds too torture, we can assume that Molly and Arthur sheltered their children from the horrors of the war. They never heard about any of that no more than about 'Peter the tragic hero'. So if the twins ever saw him on the map, it was just some random name amongst many others to them.

[@TomTomBL3]

But what would they think if this guy called Peter petigrew slept with Ron every day for 3 years

[@tgiacin435]

@BobobearBee-kw8buone thing I’m wondering is how does it work with animals? They mention Mrs. Norris, but not any other animal. I always chalked it up to they only added Mrs. Norris because of her connection with Filtch.

[@tanmayjain3543]

But still, he was sleeping with ron so it would have looked suspicious lol

[@tgiacin435]

@@tanmayjain3543 I feel like the map only detects Mrs. Norris because she’s a special case. Other than that I don’t remember any other animaigus showing up on the map. Otherwise I think Rita Skeeter would show up being at least 1 of 5 known unregistered animaigus

[@astoria4ever]

iirc, the marauders were the only ones who could see themselves/eachother on the map

[@anagodyna573]

about sorting into the houses, I saw a short on youtube about it and it made a lot of sense to me. Basically, the idea is that children are sorted according to their values, like, what they value in life, not actual character traits. It works especially well with the fact that there are a lot of examples when wizarding families got sorted into one house, and that happens not because they are all the same, but because they share the same values that their parents taught them.

[@D.M.Mortem]

3:22 Hermione mentions duplicating the food, but Ron says not to because it taste bad.

[@molle2575]

Portkeys: Timer vs no timer all depends on how the spell to create the key was cast. Mr. Weasley explained that at the tournament, the keys would only have to operate for a short time, as it would be chaos if multiple groups arrived at the same location at the same time. It is true that it's not specifically explained in detail, but I feel like enough hints to this has been left for us to accept that explanation. Regarding the Tri Wizard tournament cup, (fan theory) it was enchanted to work both ways as Voldemort intended to use it back to Hogwarts, as Hogwarts is protected from other magical intrusion (how the portkey would have been able to return though??). But that's why it was such a blow to Voldemort that Harry returned to Dumbledore and warned him about Voldemort, his element of surprise was ruined.

[@Rj-ij6ko]

It’s funny, the thing with truth serum is that they make a point of saying that truth serum would make even Voldemort tell the truth. If they hadn’t added that, it could have been like a lie detector test in real life, with how some people can beat it.

[@szymson1992]

I don't remember if it was in the books, but I think veritaserum only works, when the person doesn't know they ingested it

[@garcardosotan6172]

@@szymson1992 No, but Fudge makes a point of saying that if you believe hard enough, a lie can be a truth to you. He says this near the butt end of book four if you want to look it up. Also, pretty sure book 5 says using it is illegal??? And again, people tend to forget how long these problem solving potions take to make.

[@CaptainvonDore]

But can it make a 400 foot tall purple platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings tell the truth?

[@acid0428]

@@CaptainvonDoreI suppose it might...

[@rekmaramd9307]

@@CaptainvonDore It would actually cause a paradox, "What happen when someone who always lies take a potion that only make you say the truth?" xD

[@darkessraven]

17:33 i recall the books saying that they had one broomstick with them when they met up with Harry after he was in Ravenclaw’s common room.

[@arshiajain3404]

For "Why could order members use magic at dursely's?", isn't it because they were adults and didn't have the trace on them while Harry was a minor and Dobby was a house elf.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

That's a good explanation. Other possibilities are that there weren't any Muggles around at the time, so the Ministry thought it didn't matter, or there was interference due to there being like 10 wizards in one small house.

[@WilliamMoffatt-gp3ee]

Kingsley was in the ministry, so he couldve pulled some strings

[@udraj914]

​@@WilliamMoffatt-gp3eenope, they were doing it especially "not" to alert the ministry

[@klaudiagrob]

Yes

[@matthewpatrick7263]

In HBP, when Harry found out how Tom killed his father, he asked Dumbledore why the Trace didn't get him caught. Dumbledore's answer was that the Trace is only on the houses of underage witches and wizards who don't have magical parents. It's not on people, but places. They can't tell who cast the spell. The Ministry wants everyone to believe in the "Trace" that is on every underage witch and wizard, but that's simply a lie. I'll never understand how Harry forgot that in DH. (P.S. That means it's a prejudiced law against muggle-borns, since they're generally the only ones who can be caught.)

[@DawoodAam]

For the first plot hole, James and Lily could not be each other's secret keepers as it wasn't their location that was the secret. It was themselves. They were the secret, the secret cannot be the secret keeper

[@leonielson7138]

24:47 "Problems with the Wizarding Education System" ... Homeschooling ... Also, apprenticeships: instead of going to college, you receive on-the-job training. 26:15 "Portkey inconsistencies" The Goblet of Fire was probably enchanted twice - the first time to get Harry to the graveyard, the second time to transport Harry's body back to Hogwarts. This plays into my theory of the horcruxes, where Voldemort intended to turn Harry into a horcrux - sending him back to Hogwarts possessed and animated by a part of Voldemort's soul.

[@sawanna508]

About the portkey. The cup could have been already a portkey to transport the winner out of the labyrinth (a labyrinth only has a middle not exit) infront ot the audience. Fake Moody just put another portkey enchantment on top of it.

[@jackbrassil5318]

To be fair, I don't count the Fantastic Beasts films as cannon. So in my ignorant bliss, those films don't exist

[@Lowko4456]

They are though sorry to take away your copium😂

[@jackbrassil5318]

@@Lowko4456 Not copium... "ignorant bliss" and sir, you cannot take that away

[@Motacilla191]

For me the movies in general are not canon, just the books.

[@iMajoraGaming]

​@@jackbrassil5318 i mean you can call it whatever you want, not gonna change what it is

[@Elodie-xi3pp]

Don’t forget the cursed child that should never be cannon

[@davidstears7037]

To the "Death Eaters getting their wands back", from a movie plot hole perspective, there isn't one. The Death Eater's stormed into Olivander's to kidnap him, and as they did, Grayback had a half dozen wands under his arm. So the "they couldn't exactly go to Olivander's to get new wands" was.... Actually exactly what they did. XD

[@Myself-yf5do]

Movie plot holes can be explained with just not reading the books closely enough.

[@WillowsVeganBakery]

29:00 Yes! I'm a Slytherin-I have a bakery, (amibition), and am incredibly resourceful. BUT I AM NOT EVIL. I think it has something to do with the fact that ambition, cunning, and resourcefulness, while not inherently evil, give the option of being very evil-or very good, so THAT'S the problem.

[@ScarletASV]

Lol Dumbledore's painting as an AI and he fed it info for a year until the AI learned enough 😂

[@TheInccorrectOne]

In Prisoner of Azkaban doesn’t Snape say he saw Lupin on the map, wouldn’t that mean people other than the marauders see the marauders on the map

[@MarinaTilich]

I said that too, but now I’m not so sure with you’re name… 😂 this is a joke btw

[@dragonhale2026]

Part of the fan theory, I think, is that Lupin left the map opened. The map doesn't show things based on who is looking at it right now, but based on who opened it. That is why mischief managed is so important.

[@sawanna508]

@@dragonhale2026 Exactly the map can't know that it is not Lupin anymore.

[@minibex5258]

for the felix felicis one, i could swear that there's some piece of info out there that if too many people drink it in a close proximity, the luck would either negate itself or cause a really bad case of bad luck. i wanna say it's somewhere in quidditch through the ages because they go over a rule about why players are forbidden to drink liquid luck, but i'm not entirely sure for the peter pettigrew one, i wouldn't be surprised of peter spent most of his time away from ron, especially at night. rats are naturally nocturnal and while peter is human, i think some rat traits started to sneak into him. so peter could've been far away from ron at night instead of "sleeping in his bed" (i don't think anywhere in the books said ron sleeps with his rat anyway). prisoner of azkaban movie kinda helps with this theory since peter was seen on the map at night, even tho this scene wasn't in the books. but we always see peter active at night anyway; i don't think he has many scenes where he's seen in the daytime.

[@garcardosotan6172]

That one is simply. Why would Fred and George give a f*** about watching their brother sleep?

[@ambiverter]

It is mentioned once I guess in 2nd or 3rd book that Harry Shoves Scabbers from his pillow 😂 when he was going to bed. Idk maybe Peter thought to take a nap on the nearest empty bed for a change 😂

[@garyasselstine9186]

...in case they wanted to make sure he didn't interfere with one of their practical jokes? In case they wanted to turn his pillow into a bunch of spiders again...

[@oliwierurban2345]

I think that since Peter was one of the Marauders, he wasn't visible on the map. I think that Marauders wouldn't want their map being used against them, so in case they lost the map, they wouldn't be visible on it.

[@theodysseyowl]

Bold of you to assume that Fred and George would spend their time watching Ron in his dormitory-where Peter Pettigrew spent nearly all his time as a rat

[@klaudiagrob]

Harry never sees Pettigrew on the map in the book.

[@One.Zero.One101]

I feel that's grasping at straws. They never saw him once in what, 17 years?

[@EspeonMistress00]

​@@One.Zero.One101Wtf dym by 17 years 😂 They got it when they were at school and then gave to Harry before their school ended.

[@JMcMillen]

Exactly. Fred and George would have been using the map to scout out where people were outside their dormitory, probably at night most of the time. With all the other people piled into the dorm at night, a name that didn't have any special meaning to them would have likely gone unnoticed. Also, there would have been less than 2.5 year overlap in the twins having the map and Pettigrew being at the school, before they gave it to Harry, about half way through his third year.

[@matthewpatrick7263]

@@JMcMillen Scabbers was with Percy before Ron, so the overlap is longer.

[@sashimi8187]

Thats why i read fanfictions. The fans think up of everything. Patching all loopholes with their own spin on the lore its so enjoyable to see a talented writers own rendition of the harry potter universe.

[@Stanataka]

Why can I see In my head hagrid in a massive cart like Santa being pulled by thestrals😂😂

[@Batman-hb9dh]

In the first book Harry says to Ron that he just saw "a bunch of green light" and said that he doesnt remember much else

[@MrWill9002]

Actually I think the book DID say they used broomsticks to get out of the Chamber of Secrets in The Deathly Hallows

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

The reason Tonks was able to do that magic at the Dursley's is probably one of 2 reasons, either, the ministry detected the fact that there weren't any muggles around at the time, so it didn't matter, because the times harry did, there were muggles around, or, it got interfered as if it was a magical location because there were lots of wizards there so it couldn't tell who did it. Also are you a seer Morgan, because I was legit going to upload a video myself today where I debunk some Harry Potter plot holes.

[@avijatsinharoy8944]

Reason 3)The trace makes no sense

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

@@avijatsinharoy8944 Yeah it really doesn't tbh, I'm writing a fanfiction atm where I have Ginny and the other kids using magic outside of school all the time because in Magical locations, they can't tell who does it. I even have Ginny specifically say that she uses it to hide some of the twins joke products from Molly under her bedroom floor.

[@avijatsinharoy8944]

@@dannylagangonzalez6832 dude really made an entire story from a plot hole,bravo

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

@@avijatsinharoy8944 well no, that's not where my entire story comes from, my main idea was to give Ginny a much bigger role in the series, so in mine she's close friends with Harry from the day they meet and they start dating much earlier, but i decided to take advantage of this plot hole once I realised it could be useful to my narrative. It's going to be particularly useful when I get to my OOTP re-write, as it means I can change one of my most hated scenes from that book.

[@saphiramystique2086]

Harry still would have gotten in trouble for using Magic outside of school since he was underage, but it's likely Dumbledore or someone in the order alerted the ministry that they were picking up Harry, That could explain why Harry didn't get in trouble for Tonks’ magic in OOTP, but there is still a plothole with it, because Mr. Weasley uses magic at the Dursley’s when picking up Harry in GOF, and Harry never gets blamed for that.

[@patriciabieckert3504]

Around 28:20 Sorting students - Even Dumbledore thinks students are sorted too soon, In The Prince's Tale, Dumbledore and Snape are talking about Karkaroff's cowardice on page 680 of Deathly Hallows and Dumbledore says, "You [Snape] are a braver man by far than Igor Karkaroff. You know, I sometimes think we Sort too soon..."

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

"The entire wizzarding world is at stake sir, you have to make the potion, as many as you can." "Ah..who got the time...i got classes to teach, other things...Not worth the hassle. "

[@CZsWorld]

I'm not sure if this qualifies as a plot hole, but it's ridiculous that Victor Krum catches the snitch when down 160 to lose the game for his team. He could have defended the snitch from being caught by the Irish seeker or played on offense to help his team get into striking range before catching it. It would be like when a team goes empty net at the end of a hockey game. You wouldn't just give up when there's still a chance to win.

[@rekmaramd9307]

A simple explanation is that he saw his team being crushed, realized that there was no way they would ever make up the difference in points, and decided to end the game at this point where they would only be 10 points behind rather than let it become worse. If there is some kind of overall score kept in which how badly you lost games is relevant, only losing by 10 points rather than 200 points would be strategically sound.

[@CZsWorld]

@@rekmaramd9307 this was the world championship, there's no way he would make the call to forfeit for his teammates

[@Harmthuria]

@@CZsWorldI understand why you don’t like it, and I don’t like it either, but this was the explanation given in the books. Apparently, his team was only good enough to make it to the finals because he was the greatest seeker in the world. During the finals however, he didn’t manage to catch the snitch fast enough.

[@molybdomancer195]

@@CZsWorldhave you watched real world team games? I watch a lot of football (soccer) and there are endless examples of strikers selfishly wasting a good scoring chance by trying to score themselves rather than passing to a better placed teammate. This does often cost the team a win.

[@DukeOfAwsomeness]

@@rekmaramd9307 I always hated this because why not wait 1 more minute your only down one goal of your catch the snitch if he justes waited and they scored a goal he grabs it and it’s a tie

[@Myself-yf5do]

Voldemort tried to abolish the sorting system, so that was one thing he may have had the right idea about.

[@JonahTheWhite]

Yeah why would you need more than one house when all your students are pure blooded?

[@omegarealmsbans1914]

@@JonahTheWhite How can I be racist if I want a world with only my race in it that offers no opportunities for anyone to be racist to anyone?

[@Xeno_Solarus]

​@@omegarealmsbans1914The thing is, history tells us what would happen. Look at China's history, where warring tribes (of the same race) fought each other again and again. Or early Europe, or Ireland, Scotland, Africa, Native Americans, etc etc.

[@omegarealmsbans1914]

@@Xeno_Solarus I'm just messing with the OP. Eliminating all races except your own in the name of getting rid of racism is a horrible argument to make.

[@luizinhobolinha]

@@omegarealmsbans1914 cant argue with that lol

[@ronakdave4466]

31:49 I see what you did there Morgan, I see what you did there 🤣🤣

[@poalythebear]

About the Marauders Map theory: it's possible. though I see it like Harry and Lupin saw it because they were or were descended from the Marauders. also maybe the marauders engineered it like that so if a teacher took it and found out how to use it, they couldn't see James, Sirius, Lupin, and Peter breaking rules in the night or anything cuz they already memorized it

[@Youroldmatejohnno]

Fred and George probably thought that Ron was just messing around in the movies that’s why they didn’t care And the ministry could have used the serum thingy to prove the Voldemort wasn’t back (they would have proved he was back though)

[@johnjones4426]

17:39 they do get broomsticks from the room of requirement in the book

[@katerinajirmusova3683]

Exactly, in the book it’s written that Ron had a broomstick under his arm.. so this is not a plothole at all

[@screamingopossum7809]

Exactly. A lot of plotholes are explained in the book or with basic critical thinking skills. JK Rowling is very good at not treating the reader like they're stupid and leaves a lot of basic sense things up in the air. This video is stupid.

[@renegade8283]

couldn't they just apparate

[@Jintyandpugstudios356]

@@renegade8283you can’t apparate on hogwarts grounds,silly! Have you even read Hogwarts: a history?

[@Prodrummer1603]

Marauders Map Plot Hole: Snape was able to spot Remus Lupin on the Map when he entered Lupins office to give him the potion. He was not part of the Marauders. How was he able to see Lupin ? Maybe the Marauders Map only shows the Marauders if the Marauders are activating the map but still everybody can see them. Charlies Wand Plot Hole: After school Charlie got to work with dragons. His wand core was made out of unicorn hair. Maybe the interest into dragons also changed his compatibility with another wand core. Maybe a wand with dragon heart string was more suitable for him for his new job ? Wands with Unicorn Core also can die / lose power after time. They don't last forever. Maybe Charlies wand just got worse and worse overtime and he thought it was time for a new wand and because the Weasleys were poor they thought it would be a good idea to give Ron Charlies old wand ? Ron basically got the worst deal ever: a wand that belonged to another wizard (unicorn hair usually remains loyal to the original owner) and a wand with a core that might have lost all the power at that time. No wonder why Ron's magic in the first years was mediocre.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Personally I think that Lupin de-activated the "only marauders can see maruaders" charm when he took the map from harry, either in case he gave it back in the future, or because he didn't think anyone else would ever see it from then on.

[@markkonigsmann1079]

My explanation for the plot hole regarding Charlie's wand is that the wand Charlie got belonged to another member of the Weasley family who died long ago. Similar to Neville who used his father's wand until he got a new wand in book six. So the wand was also strange to Charlie and not a wand that choosed Charlie at Ollivander's. Ron just called it Charlie's wand, because he got the wand from Charlie when Charlie got his new wand after he graduated from school which just happend before Ron attented Hogwarts for the first time.

[@Prodrummer1603]

@BobobearBee-kw8bu Have to disagree. Harry Saw Barty Crouch Jr on the map even though He used polyjuice Option to become Mad Eye Moody. The Marauders map can See through Disguises, Polyjuice Potion and Invisibility Cloaks. Animagus should not make any difference. Its Just another Form of Disguise.

[@NIH1966]

@@markkonigsmann1079 this makes sense. thank you!

[@brettbrooks5511]

​@BobobearBee-kw8bu Lupin wasn't an animagus. He was just a werewolf.

[@LegoAndrew08]

3:58 he also watched Quirrell die in the first book? Edit: I forgot that in the book he passed out before Quirrell actually died!

[@Gigglingsiren]

Quirrel actually died in the hospital wing. Harry wouldn't have seen him die anyway.

[@matthewrosenthal753]

⁠@@Gigglingsiren No, Quirrell died in the room where Harry confronted him as he literally( in the books & films) burned to ash from touching Harry’s skin and Voldemort exiting his body.

[@Gigglingsiren]

@@matthewrosenthal753 The crumbling to ash thing was only in the movies. He was just burned in the books and died from his injuries.

[@matthewrosenthal753]

@@Gigglingsiren He was still dead right after Voldemort abandoned his body.

[@Gigglingsiren]

@matthewrosenthal753 So, I went back and reread that part, and Dumbledore tells Harry that Voldemort left Quirrel to die. So he very well could've died in the room immediately or some time later.

[@dennis.muia.3549]

31:48 Dennis was a little menace. Brilliantly done.

[@mirrortherorrim]

_"If you look so closely at a fictional story, you're bound to have plot holes"_ Or, rather, J Ro just was too busy writing as much magic stuff she thought would be cool to think the plot through.

[@Primisshorts01]

I heard a theory on the port key one by Supercarlinbrothers: Voldemort specifically made the port key to go both ways because he planned to use polyjuice potion to turn into Harry, and sneak into Hogwarts using the cup so he could kill Dumbledore and take over the school.

[@LoneWolfLuna28]

You actually think they know what they're talking about?

[@Primisshorts01]

@@LoneWolfLuna28 It's just a theory lol. They know a lot about Harry Potter. Idk what I think about the whole "polyjuice into Harry thing" But the idea of Voldemort making a device that could instantly get him right into Hogwarts isn't that crazy to me.

[@LoneWolfLuna28]

@@Primisshorts01 I'm referring less to the theory itself, and more to the fact that the SuperCarlinBrothers seem like idiots to me. This is mainly because they are so insistent on theories that the existing canon debunks and they can't seem to accept that J.K. just made a mistake. (Am I specifically referring to Filch being a Poltergeist and Hagrid being in Slytherin? Absolutely.) Then their "What Ifs" use a lot of stuff that would not work in the existing canon, such as Cedric still being a student at Hogwarts during Order of the Phoenix when he was a seventh year in Goblet of Fire, Snape surviving an entire year with a silver hand like Wormtail's that would strangle him the second he turned on Voldemort, Harry being the thing Fleur misses most in the Tri-Wizard Tournament, the Sword of Gryffindor turning into the "Sword of Slytherin" when Voldemort turned it into a horcrux, and so many more problems. Anyway, this is mostly just my opinion on the SuperCarlinBrothers, and probably shouldn't be taken as fact, I just thought I should probably clarify my statement.

[@vignotum132]

@@LoneWolfLuna28Cedric was a sixth-year during GoF. Maybe it’s you who’s an “idiot”

[@udraj914]

​​@@LoneWolfLuna28yes they do. Them, Seamus Gorman and Harry Potter Folklore are the biggest HP nerds. They definitely know what they are talking about, and anyway its "just a theory" 🤷 u can either take it or leave it

[@theastraloverlord4091]

2:57. Pretty sure they DID do that. But food becomes less nutritious, hence why Rons wound took so long to heal. And sometimes the food was so lackluster that they didn't even want to multiply it.

[@sawanna508]

Yes, at one point they are eating something and Ron beggs Hermione not to multiply it because it was aweful.

[@MegaGandalf12]

@13:50 Slughorn didn't make a small amount. He made a cauldron full! He just gave the small amount as prize.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

It's still very complicated to make, plus I doubt one cauldron would even have been enough for all the people fighting. I imagine that the death eaters running the school would also do frequent checks for such things in every professors office, using revealing charms etc, to see if they were trying to hide it. The only way it could have been done is via dumbledore's army, but unless they got it via owl order, none of them were likely skilled enough at potions to make it. Possibly Slughorn could have done it in Myrtle's bathroom, but even then, Snape could have told them to check for that, as I imagine he'd have been told about the trio making polyjuice potion there.

[@diminie_chimket]

That doesn't matter. It still takes 6 months to make. They wouldn't have had any time to make the amount of Felix Felicis they needed.

[@PAGGIE9111]

Lmao felix "felishies" 🤣 bye felicia

[@Wallussss]

For Hagrid riding a thestral: He says in the Seven Potters chapter he says "Brooms and thestrals can't take me weight"

[@IkeFanBoy64]

I do find it a bit funny that Dumbledore basically cloned himself by talking to a painting.

[@screamingopossum7809]

You ever talk to yourself so much that the walls around you can hold conversation with your intelligence and thought process?

[@ilikevideos4868]

"Voldemort going all this trouble to avoid death? Lmao I've got an easier way to live forever"

[@mumtolalalumpitie8597]

A small point, from a UK fan, who is similar in age to Rowling, that rigorous background checks in any school didn't start happening until 2002, I think following The Soham murders. Uusally checks were briefly done via the police. I think Jo genuinely wanted the school experience to be based on real life schools in the UK. So anyone could teach in the UK with just a soft search when the books were set, thus allowing for any teacher to be at Hogwarts to mirror muggle schools. It's probably viewded as a plot hole based on either modern day society or ppl in countries unfamiliar with the UK pre2002 in my humble opinion.

[@kittietwins7150]

man his videos explain everything he's so good

[@leonielson7138]

0:50 "Why couldn't James & Lily be their own Secret Keepers?" Because, while discussing the matter with their closest friends, Peter spoke up and offered himself. That show of bravery was uncommon for Wormtail, and to honor it, James and Lily agreed. 1:38 "Why could Order members use magic at the Dursley's?" Contacts within the Ministry were probably turning a blind eye, that or the trace recognized that adult witches and wizards were present, or that no Muggle was present. Arthur Weasley did plenty of magic in 1994 when picking up Harry for the Quidditch World Cup, and no letter was sent then, either.

[@Proman4713]

About the Slytherins during the troll attack, I think this is either a plot hole or J.K could easily fix it by saying that they were sent to the Hospital Wing or the kitchens. Or they could've just waited outside the Dungeons until the professors took care of it.

[@karlsmith2570]

15:01 The Sword of Gryffindor wasn't a Horcrux. The locket that Ron, Hermione, and Harry pilfered from Umbridge was the horcrux

[@sawanna508]

Exactly. I think it is only once mentioned Voldemort may have intendet to use it but never got his hands on it.

[@MGower4465]

I think the plot hole is that *Harry* was a Horcrux, so the sword, capable of destroying a Horcrux, should have affected him when he touched it.

[@mightypancake2211]

@@MGower4465 The sword was just a goblin metal sword that absorbed beneficial powers, and was enchanted to return to the hat when it was out of the hands of Griffindors. It didn't have the power to destroy Horcruxs till after it stabbed the Baskilix. And even then Harry didn't find out till later that it could do the same as a Baskilix fang. And no the Horocrux has to be directly attacked with such to be destroyed and is heavily protected against most magics besides dark magics/curses. So one couldn't break them so easily. That is why the locket horcrux was trying to kill harry when he was trying to retrieve the sword in the lake. As for why the sword didn't hurt harry is cause he was a Griffindor and Harry first. and he was an unintended horcrux. That aside Harry was still Harry. That was why the killing spell on Harry killed the last part of Tom Riddle instead of Harry. And why the sword wouldn't harm harry namely cause of where it was pointed... Not like the Sword was an active Horcrux hunter so it didn't like try killing harry itself, it was just a tool just like the fangs.

[@mightypancake2211]

@@sawanna508 Yes Voldemort(Tom Marvelo Riddle) wanted to use all the founder's items to create Horcruxs. But cause the sword of Griffindor only appeared to Griffindors from the hat, it was hard to get an item that wasn't easy to get one's hands on. And I am sure he wanted the Sorting hat but that was always hidden away in a place he couldn't get at it easily. so yes. He had to only get the three founder items, and use them. He already made one but also was the most anyone would want to make cause when you rip your soul in the books, it took like half of you to do so. So each time later was another half... And you just halved that until we got what was left. Which was maybe a 20th of his soul was left?

[@DragoX7]

​@@MGower4465well it wasn't the sword itself necessarily, it was the basilisk venom that had been taken into the sword that gave the sword it's Horcrux destroying capabilities.

[@tomlinson1710]

17:26 they used a broom. It was shown in the book

[@jessicasiddall3428]

1) For James & Lilly being the secret keeper. If they were their own secret keepers who would have got information to them from the order? Is this why they trusted their friends! 2) The trace doesn’t show in OFTP because the trace isn’t on Tonks so wouldn’t flag up to the ministry? Love your videos !

[@udraj914]

But the trace is on Harry, so it should have been flagged if anyone performed magic around him. That is one of the reasons they use "polyjuice" in Seven Potters, so that they wouldnt have to cast any spell

[@Harmthuria]

The trace wasn’t on Dobby either, yet the ministry flagged magic being used in the Dursley’s residence.

[@lycosdevanos]

@@Harmthuria a solution to this plothole is simple: The ministry can tell different wizards magic apart, but a magical being like a house elf isn't trackable and when they use magic in a house with no registered house elf and only a school level wizard or witch it triggers an alert that only says "Unauthorized magical use"

[@shawncottrell6342]

Polyjuice potion is probably better than walking around as a giant black dog.

[@benalvaro9397]

17:34 Maybe Hermione still remember Professor Flitwick about Wingardium Leviosa 😂

[@SNINJAR]

These sorts of videos are my favorite, and whilst I haven’t watched the video yet, I know it won’t disappoint. Thank you Morgan for the continued amazing content ❤

[@andeeharry]

1:08 All part of Dumbledore's Big Plan unfortunately. He has been manipulating the timeline since the 40s. The Potters had to die for plot convivence and because of the prophecy. Of course, nobody knew which boy was to be marked, and the gamble sort of paid off.

[@Kmmlc]

Only Dumbledore knew the whole prophecy. And it was before either Harry or Neville was born. One more day and Harry isn't the boy of prophecy, Neville is. And Dumbledore himself states that he didn't know at the time that Tom Riddle would become the most feared Dark Wizard in living memory. He decided to keep an eye on him because he knew his personality and was worried. He didn't think he was right for a teaching post either right after graduating. Tom only knew the portion about the prophecy that pertained to being born at the end of July and to parents who had defied him thrice. Dumbledore never wanted James and Lily dead, he even offered to be their secret keeper. He had no way of knowing how everything would play out, though he got his first breakthrough when was given the Diary. Once he knew a horcrux was involved for sure that mandated a new plan.

[@mellow3995]

Veritserum can probably be resisted or overcome, like it only works on weak-willed or injured people. Also it's probably easier to resist if you're aware you've been dosed with it. At least that's what makes sense to me.

[@shrapnel_19]

No, (Potter-Head Here) Veritaserum is the most powerful Truth Serum, 3 Drops can make ANYONE spill out all of their secrets (Snape said this in the 4th Book). There are other weaker Truth Serums.

[@mellow3995]

@@shrapnel_19 Could have sworn JK said it could be resisted as an explanation for the Death Eater Trials.

[@feetenjoyer-ue3uu]

No, the books seem to imply that there are lesser truth potions that can be tricked or overcome, but veritaserum is unbeatable, unless you have the antidote. Therefore, it doesn’t make sense that the ministry doesn’t use it on suspects

[@mellow3995]

Narratively, that seems extremely moronic to have to flawless truth telling serum. Then again this series also has time travel and god mod with Felix Felicis

[@Kamfys]

​@@mellow3995i swear that something was said about purebloods being able to deny truth serum

[@brobs0463]

I find the idea funny that Fred and George thought Ron was sleeping with a man called Peter every night

[@meacadwell]

1. Lily and James couldn't be their own Secret Keepers because if they both died the secret would die with them and nobody would be able to get Harry. 2. The Ministry was so sure Harry would be expelled, they didn't bother sending another letter. 3. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't transformed items eventually turn back into their original form? So, if they turned a rock into a potato and ate it, eventually they could have crushed rock in their stomach or sand in their intestines or blood stream - it could be dangerous. Multiplying food is a form of transformation so they might have a full stomach now but they wouldn't get any nutritional value when the food suddenly disappeared. 6. Dumbledore probably told Sirius' to stay at the house due to his recklessness - if the polyjuice potion wore off but he didn't want to go back then he'd try to change into his recognizable dog form. 7. JRK already addressed this 8. Days before the planned moved, Harry should have told Hedwig to go to Hogwarts to keep her safe(er). Harry should have used polyjuice potion to change into someone else and been partnered with someone other than Hagrid. That way, when the fighting started, they could just grab Harry's arm and disapparate out of the fight. Technically, couldn't everyone could just disapparate out of the fighting too? Hedwig's and Moody's deaths just seem contrived and used as heart-tuggers in the plot. 9. When they change to Crabbe and Goyly their bodies got bigger...including the vocal cords. It would be impossible for them to have their own voices. They only kept the original voices in the movies to help the audience remember who's who. 10. Knowing Slughorn it's doubtful he doesn't have a stash of Felix somewhere. He could've been making it the entire time he was at Hogwarts. However, it's never mentioned if it has an expiration meaning older stashes might not work anymore. 16. The books don't say prisoner wands were snapped in half. So, the wands were either given to their family members or kept in a secured place at Azkaban, because not all prisoners are in Azkaban for life so when they get out (like Hagrid did) they could have their wands again. 17. Hagrid does say this, “We’ll be on the bike, brooms an’ thestrals can’t hold me weight, see” so it can't be thestrals. Can't be floo powder cuz no fireplace outside. Can't be the motorcycle otherwise Harry would've heard it and they would've used it instead of muggle transport. Could he have used Fawkes? 18. So, Dumbledore was training Portrait-Dumbledore. That would explain why some of the other headmaster portraits were more helpful than regular portraits. 19. With all the magic that could be used, a background check could be really hard to do. The person being checked could: a. Imperious anyone being asked questions about them so they'd only say what the spell caster wanted them to say. b. The imperioused person could be forced to take polyjuice potion to appear to be someone else that was going to be talked to during the background check. There would have to be a lot of veritaserum used but some magical folk can overcome veritaserum. Etc. The majority of people were already taught at Hogwarts so a lot about them would already be known. 22. The portkeys for the World Cup were timed because they had to schedule so many magical folk in and out of the arena area. Don't know why the portkeys for the 7 Potters had timers. The big question is why the Tri-Wizard portkey worked both ways when Voldemort was planning on killing Harry in the cemetary - there was no need for the portkey to take anyone back to Hogwarts. 23. Couldn't the mermaids keep relaying what was going on underwater to someone on land? Unsure about the maze though. It couldn't even be some type of magical sensor letting people know where the 4 were located in the maze because as soon as the 2 touched the portkey the sensors would go out and people would be rushing into the maze to figure out where they went, which obviously didn't happen. 25. What's the point in locking anything since alohamora exists?

[@BlooNooYT]

I think for how Ron and Hermione got back out of the Chamber of Secrets is that they could’ve used the spell Ascendio. Harry used the spell in the Goblet of Fire when he was in the lake which propelled him upwards and out of the lake. I suppose that this spell also works outside of water which perfectly explains how they could’ve gotten out. Although, it also makes sense if they used brooms.

[@JMcMillen]

In the book when they got back to Harry with the fangs, Ron was also carrying a broomstick.

[@BlooNooYT]

@@JMcMillen Oh good point. It’s been almost a year since I’ve read the Deathly Hallows so I might’ve not remembered that.

[@smileyforus]

I love these kind of videos! They're super interesting and it's always nice to listen to you, an expert on Harry Potter, talk about the story, the plot holes, the characters and whatever that's from the wizarding world.

[@KingOfGods27]

34:26 I just assumed they had more professors protecting the Slytherin’s in the great hall

[@Proman4713]

16:12 Well, first talking about touching the sword of Gryffindor. This isn't a plot hole, you don't get poisoned by holding a snake's fangs, it has to get inside you to get into your blood and do its job, this is clearly a general knowledge/science fact that the OP of this "plot hole" did not know (fun fact: you can *swallow* some types of snake venom and survive, but die if you're bitten by it directly, I'm saying this to prove how dumb this plot hole is). It's really common sense that you have to be bitten by a snake to get poisoned, not just by holding it/its teeth. Now for the second one as to why the Basilisk fang did not kill the horcrux inside of Harry, there are two reasons: One is that Harry himself did not die like he did in Deathly Hallows so the horcrux lived on, and Two (which makes more sense) is that FAWKES HEALED HARRY WITH HIS TEARS! The Basilisk venom was not even able to finish through *HARRY* to be able to kill the horcrux inside of him, Fawkes fixed it!

[@KCEBGaming]

The plot hole with Bellatrix’s Wand is even more strange considering Ollivander can identify wands and identifies Bellatrix’s wand when the group is at Shell Cottage before the Gringotts break in

[@matthewpatrick7263]

Regarding the Marauder's Map: Not only was Scabbers with Ron, but with Percy before that. That means that, even if they weren't in the habit of checking out Ron's dorm, they certainly would've checked out Percy's when the first got the Map.

[@frantisekvrana3902]

Why though? Percy only became prefect in his 5th year. The same year Ron got Scabbers. While Percy surely was uptight even before then, he could not deduct points until he was prefect, and I don't think even he would tattle on his brothers if it wasn't his job.

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@frantisekvrana3902 What does being a prefect have to do with Fred and George spying on him with the Marauder's Map?

[@matthewpatrick7263]

I've always thought Scabbers found a way to get the Twins to guess the Map's password because it amused him.

[@roccothepuppy8332]

Ben loving the HP videos! All of them! I have got so much into HP more because of this channel! Keep up the good work!

[@leonielson7138]

8:31 "Why didn't the Ministry use Veritaserum in court cases?" Veritaserum is a very difficult potion to make, so there was a small supply for the number of people who had to be questioned. When there was overwhelming evidence, like Dumbledore telling the Wizengamot that the Potters had told him that Sirius would be their Secret Keeper, it would have been foolish to use their dwindling supply to get a confession. 13:00 "Why didn't they use Liquid Luck for the Battle of Hogwarts?" Because it's an incredibly tricky potion to make - Slughorn and Snape would have had to have known that the attack was going to happen 6 months in advance.

[@memes4u378]

3:15 I haven't read the book sin a while so don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure they did try multiplying food, but apparently everytime they multiplied food it's nutrients were divided. e.g one loaf of bread=200 calories, 3 loafs of bread made as a result of the multiplying spell would be 67 calories each. This meant multiplying food made no difference.

[@Drace90]

Man, I'm so tired of people misusing the term plot hole. A plot hole is a plot element that is not set up or paid off. It is NOT a random inconsistency, lorebreak, unlikely event or some nitpick. It is a *vital* part of the plot that is missing. Hence the name plot hole.

[@professorcube7631]

What would be the proper term then? Inconsistencies?

[@theodysseyowl]

“In fiction, a plot hole, plothole, or plot error, is a *gap* or *inconsistency* in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot.”

[@Drace90]

@@professorcube7631 All those I just listed. I would just say nitpicks.

[@Drace90]

@@theodysseyowl As I explained, a plot hole is a plot element that has not been set up or paid off. A storyline that came out of nowhere or didn't go anywhere. A part of the plot that is missing. NOT an inconsistency in the world building. The plot.

[@thorthewolf8801]

​@@Drace90How can you say they are wrong when they provided a definition?

[@kw8047]

My favorite KZbin channel! Thanks for educating us even more on the Wizarding world!

[@MariaMastorelli]

In the fiddles charm thing, remember how worm tail and sirius kept visiting them? They probably chose to do it the way they did so they could keep contact to their friends. What do you think?

[@TylerJ0412]

They probably also needed someone to bring them food and stuff since they were 100% confined to the house

[@Lost_feline613]

Fidelius charm*

[@SGB000]

If lily and James were the keepers, they could have told their friends and then they could enter freely.

[@paulinabartosiewicz417]

@@TylerJ0412 They were not 100% confined, Lily wrote in her letter: "Dumbledore's still got his [James'] Invisibility Cloak, so no chance of little excursions."

[@trystanmentzer873]

​@@paulinabartosiewicz417 how were they not 100% confined then?

[@lockaltube]

1) James was "mediocre, delighted to find himself famous, attention-seeking and impertinent". Not a flaw, Potters are not introverts. 2) People in Ministry of Magic are not robots. Not a flaw. 3) It is explained - food will be bad. 4) Hogwarts Legacy is dumb in so many aspects, it can't be used as an argument. 5) Because map creators know exactly how map works and can hide themselves? 6) Sirius is not so dumb to trust with corrupted black market sellers who could immediately blackmail him 7) The same reason why "truth serums" (from torture to alcohol and meds) are not used in muggle courts 8) In case of imminent battles, wizards are not hiding behind muggles, this is not a choice 9) Polyjuice have different result depending on how well the potion had been brewed 10) Self-aware wizards do not rely on luck 11) Same as touching the diary 12) Because Harry did not die 13) Bombarda (maxima) through the wall? Transfigure wall into a ladder? Use the rope (left when Lockhart was rescued)? They are mature wizard now! 14) Nobody said that map has only one password 15) Unbreakable vow did not stop Snape from being a double agent 16) Laws in wizarding world are evolving, snapping the wand is not even common. Plot hole would be "exactly the same rules as 50 years ago" 17) On a god damn dragon! Or on a Fawkes tail! The whole universe is filled with flying things 18) What if it is not a normal painting? Consider mix of painting and eriseD mirror. 19) Normal schools don't do deep background checks either, what do you want from small community? 20) Fantastic Beasts is not HP 21) Better not to know how teaching system works in some Arabic countries... 22) Versatile tools are not a plot holes 23) Like most of Olympiads for students - nothing to show 24) Slytherin != evil 25) Who said "they forgot about alohomora"? Maybe they added extra charms for some doors, but not everywhere. They are not FBI, they don't know about "defense in depth" 26) Because Weasleys are poor 27) Breaking rules in Hogwarts is a recurring theme, rules exists to be broken 28) It was planned attack on Harry in secluded space 29) The students need a few days to unpack, catch up with friends, and settle back into school life 30) Hogwarts if huge, when something happens "in the dungeon" it does not mean Slytherin's dungeon

[@Frjttr]

The Thestral issue is a huge one… Rowling said that the final chapter of the Deadly Hallows was already written in 1998 (when Prisoner of Azkaban was about to be finished and Chamber of Secrets just released). I guess she meant the epilogue at King's Cross as final chapter 😅