MOZA R21 Direct Drive Wheelbase Unboxing and Full Review | Logitech G PRO Racing Wheel KILLER!?

[@GeekStreet]

New Moza Racing H Pattern Shifter - bit.ly/3SnAGE6 This is the new Moza R21 with 21 Newton meters of torque a direct competitor to Logitech G Pro wheel, although more torque it doesn't have Trueforce support - which gives that extra immersive experience. What do you think of Moza's new direct drive wheelbase - R21?

[@UltraGamingRTX]

How are you finding those CRP pedals? Any good to pair with R12?

[@GeekStreet]

Their perfect

[@lightzz3]

Moza needs to get console support

[@GeekStreet]

Definitely agree

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I still wouldn't choose it tbh. I do not like there Jerky implementation of ffb. Some queues that come out srent correct or at the right time. It just likes being sharp which is great but it's not polished. There motors have more poles in the motor also meaning they will never be able to be as fast as other brands yes even fanatec is faster and better with the ffb implementation as the motor in the new bases are just better. Bevause as of now the resolution they have can't compete it's herky jerky feels strong yes bit can't be as precise.

[@rayhib]

21nm is crazy compared to the 2.1nm I'm used to. Great video!

[@GeekStreet]

Thanks, its an insane amount of feedback 🤯

[@jaym11203]

Bro, i get 100nm, what you doing

[@resadrecebli2263]

I mean what is the point of high nm when you are going to set it to 30% from the software ...

[@TheInsaiyan]

​@@resadrecebli2263 Overhead is always good and the bigger motors have higher slewrate/acceleration at the same NM settings as smaller bases. And personally, 20nm is awesome it u want to use a big wheel rim to simulate Oldtimers. Big wheel rims like 35-38cm mute the power and ffb on smaller bases. If all that is not a consideration then u don't need anything more than 10nm, but more has its benefits if you do use em.

[@kotarojujo2737]

depends on what you playing, if you only plays assetto corsa with street cars, 21nm is overkill. But for serious competitive circuit racing then yeah, you need it

[@TheLaughingLion]

Amazing super detailed review of the R21. I don't think any other channel comes close with your in-depth reviews on these wheels. Best resource for people deciding to buy or not. like 133

[@GeekStreet]

Thanks much appreciated 🙏

[@jaym11203]

I know right bro

[@TrinTekTV]

I’m thinking about getting into sim racing but I have a question that may be obvious to those already deep into it. You said you set the power output to 60% giving you 12.5nm. Wouldn’t be better to just get a 12nm racing wheel base?. Moza R21

[@GeekStreet]

My personal option is 12Nm is more that enough power for the majority of people out there

[@TrinTekTV]

@@GeekStreet thanks for the information. Going to look into the r12 bundles.

[@mr07623445678]

Another great review bro, very informative. 👍🏼

[@GeekStreet]

Thanks so much bro 🙏

[@keithclark1173]

if you are going to "reduce" the R21 down to the R16 level is there any reason to purchase the R21?

[@goodtimeracing]

Think about it line this, let’s say 10 nm is the level you want to run at. R21 will be running at less than 50% of its capacity while the R16 will be at around roughly 65% of its capacity. Over long time the machine working at lower capacity will always have the longer life span and less degradation of materials.

[@tmane.7848]

MOZA R21 I was excited when you mentioned the adapter, but once you mentioned the cons of the adapter I decided I’ll just wait for a pc or console compatibility lol. Good review!

[@GeekStreet]

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[@garybond3388]

i have had the R9 for almost 12 months come April and love it, maybe the R21 might be my next upgrade

[@GeekStreet]

The R9 is awesome you'll be shocked at the power levels from the R21 is insane.

[@NasTyiCons]

1:36 what wheel is this?? is it custom?? how come i don’t see it listed on their website ❤❤

[@zenflight2450]

Super review... Can it fit in between if you put the Track Racer wheel mount upsidedown? To make it kinda sidemount?

[@GeekStreet]

Thanks, no I think it was slightly too wide.

[@Hugobcs]

Is this Moza r21 wheelbase a good replacement over fanatec podium dd1?

[@THIS---GUY]

Great video man. You answered my questions. I will be sharing your content with others

[@Shawn-fu3mp]

Best looking base by far of any brand!

[@GeekStreet]

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[@leighdog5866]

"moza R21" i like it , but to upgrade to probably no , i want to be able to use on all consoles & pc , i love the wheel , i wish fanatec would make something like this & i would buy it straight away . do u think the 55" is too big and loose to much of the screen behind the rig & wheel base ? thanks

[@GeekStreet]

I've tried alot of different size screens and personally I've found the 55inch to be perfect the cockpit view blends in perfectly with the position of the wheel but the only annoying thing at times is it covers the location of button on certain things but moving around in the seat I can just about see it. And yes they really are missing out not providing console support.

[@leighdog5866]

@@GeekStreet in the description u provided a link to the lg48" which i thought looked better sized for the sim-rig . Love ur videos by the way im always looking at everything u use in the reviews

[@Shade552]

Slip rings are technically wireless. Like in a turret. wonder if thats what theyre using

[@Mr_Latte_UK]

It seems every option for those seeking a high end wheel experience with PS5 (GT7 in particular) has downsides. Logitech Pro R aparently feels very good but lack of nice rim options or not able to use PC based rim options. Yes Id expect a Mclaren option to be a possibility in the future. Either in some form of GT wheel or F1 option. Also the pedals, is their no way to use PC based pedals with some form of adapter to support the Pro R on PS5?

[@Deicture]

Neat test, I bought the R5 bundle with the load cell pedal, waiting to receive it (I'll have some bozo setup, with my 6cm thick desk and 17" laptop, but s'alright, I also wonder if getting a car seat in the future would be a great idea considering I'd have to elevate it by ≈ 25cm)

[@GeekStreet]

Oh R5 nice!

[@Deicture]

@@GeekStreet yep ! Will be my first wheel, and I didn't want to half ass it 😁

[@GeekStreet]

You made the right decision 💯

[@31chase92]

did you get the fsr wheel? i’m thinking about getting a R5 and the fsr to hold me over until i get a real rig with sim magic base. was the R5s 5.5 nn enough to support the fsr?

[@necromancer___3054]

@@31chase92 5.5 NM Is more than you probably think

[@theofficialmariogamer9943]

I have watched for quite a while now u hav some detailed great reviews which is what got me into dd sim racing Tks

[@GeekStreet]

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[@harjinderkandola6380]

Moza R21. Wish Moza would hurry up with PS5 support. Bought my first wheel. Logitech with trueforce for about £300 from Amazon back in October. Wondering if I should buy PC and get MOZA R9. Or go for Logitech Pro, but that is £1350 with the pedals. Want to get direct dirve. Not buying Fanatec because of the poor customer support. Also don't know how much tax we have to pay in the UK.

[@darrylhe]

Hi, i was going to buy a fanatec dd+ to upgrade from my csl elite, if i bought the moza base can i still use my fanatec shifter and pedals?

[@GeekStreet]

You'll need to get the ClubSport USB adapter, one for each device, and it'll only work on PC

[@darrylhe]

@@GeekStreet great thx, i am on pc, the recent fanatec news has put me off and the moza base looks good

[@wagonet]

I had the exact same experience w the brook rasu1tion 2. The ffb felt weird in gt7.

[@tkmmosoma3245]

Yo bro hope you are well .can i just ask if Trak racer and GT omega ship to South Africa

[@GeekStreet]

I think they do, just double check on their website

[@thatdude4155]

Great video I’m going to check out that adapter video Unfortunately I’ve been waiting since Nov for the wheel I want from Fanatec to be available hell it’s not even available to preorder and I’m not going back down that money pit of computer gaming ever again The wait continues for a wheel

[@GeekStreet]

Thanks, out of interest what Fanatec wheel are you after?

[@thatdude4155]

GT DD PRO 5NM bundle for PS5

[@GeekStreet]

@@thatdude4155 ah ok the demand for that bundle is crazy due to the price

[@Remy_15]

Thanks! 🙏🙏 Ordered the R9 and cs wheel like 10 days ago, tried to get in touch with them but radio silence unfortunately. Hopefully it changes from processing to shipped soon lol.

[@GeekStreet]

Let me know how you get on, as hopefully your experience will help others.

[@Remy_15]

@@GeekStreet *UPDATE * My order finally shipped! I’ll let you know how my experience is with the product 💪💪

[@GeekStreet]

@@Remy_15 👌

[@ninetybyte]

Moza R21 Good video. Thanks.

[@GeekStreet]

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[@stefanvukas8747]

I'm getting a g29 and shifter as well as a Thrustmaster handbrake and shifter

[@GeekStreet]

Nice!

[@knasicbyer9592]

i’ve got a thrust master 458 spider wheel, it sucks. i’m getting either a g920 or a pxn v10 hopefully soon!

[@GeekStreet]

Spend a bit more and get an Moza R5 you'll be shocked at how good it is. It's a game changer as a starter wheel.

[@placeh0dlerr]

If you still looking, Moza releases a R3 bundle soon it's only 400

[@knasicbyer9592]

@@placeh0dlerr definitely gonna pick that up instead

[@48kgs]

So it seems most people that have high torque wheel bases never run them at 100%. You even say in the video you run it at 60%, equating to ~12Nm. So it begs the question then, why do you (we) need wheel bases with such high torque? What are the benefits? I don't see the ~10Nm of headroom as a big selling point or even necessary. What are these companies trying to sell to us?

[@GeekStreet]

For the PRO's, I came across one the other day thats 32Nm...that must be a crazy experience and maybe saves on gym membership 😂

[@lazlo342]

I think think it is more about the speed of the larger motors than it is the torque level. The faster speed translates into finer detail.

[@Shawn-fu3mp]

Update: My R5 JSUT SHIPPED...OMG!!!!!

[@GeekStreet]

OMG 🥳

[@Shawn-fu3mp]

@@GeekStreet OMG! I jsut jizzed ion my pants!!!!!

[@edan7813]

I own a wheel, it’s the pxn v3, 180 degree, no ffb, but it’s my first wheel sooo..

[@GeekStreet]

No force feedback 😭

[@Jumboboy7]

How is it compared to the Logitech G Pro? 😊

[@GeekStreet]

Racing experience is very good, with alot of force feedback but doesn't support TrueForce obviously as that's proprietary to Logitech.

[@milanvillan]

Weird title when you never even mentioned the Logitech G Pro

[@Jumboboy7]

@@GeekStreet witch one do you prefer?

[@GeekStreet]

@@Jumboboy7 for the power and accessories available Moza is a better option but I'm more swayed to Logitech due to the TrueForce and Console support.

[@Greatgoku4]

@@GeekStreet I'm more interested to know if both logi pro and r21 was to set to 10nm which is where I set my torque on most wheels which one has better feedback in terms of details and crispness?

[@koofdome]

Why does this masterpiece have to be so fuckin expensive :(

[@JiluMiah-ek2rd]

One can only dream

[@GeekStreet]

Everything in life starts with a dream, then you have to work on making it a reality.

[@platnumfox]

Moza 21. Keepem komen.

[@GeekStreet]

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[@bfstudios9163]

Moza r21😊

[@GeekStreet]

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[@ihamptonii]

MOZA R21

[@GeekStreet]

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[@ralphb8602]

Moza R21

[@MTB_brad]

Moza r21

[@GeekStreet]

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[@la1rs_]

i do not like how he says moza its moe za

[@xXxBo5sANaCxXx]

i dont think R21 is a new wheelbase lol

[@MohammedYousuf-xd4wd]

I have I logitech g29

[@blu117]

Talk about repeat everything twice FFS

[@GeekStreet]

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[@alexsp7086]

Yeah and ? Make your own Channel then FFS.

[@mr07623445678]

Moza r21

[@GeekStreet]

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[@ohmah1843]

Moza R21

[@doullaharounadoudou]

Moza r21

[@GeekStreet]

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