Ranking ALL The Sim Racing Wheel's I've EVER Owned

[@OCRacing]

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[@ocracingshorts]

Hey that's me!

[@OliverVirkus]

Hello

[@casual_driver]

You are one of the only few who compares the wheelbases head to head and this is what sim racers want to see. This information is tremendously useful and valuable, not many have the privilege to try out different wheel bases before making a purchase, thank you!

[@Max__apex]

His opinion I not that great in my opinion. I don’t agree with him but I respect him for his endeavour

[@casual_driver]

@@Max__apex It is his opinion but I do find it overall an objective comparison. Unlike some bigger sim racing channels who have access to almost all wheelbases on the market and I have never seen them making a head to head comparison video.

[@Max__apex]

@@casual_driver It’s only his opinion and he is just a random and fair play to him helping the community out. But I learnt in life people know less and hit and miss opinions

[@thermgraphics6937]

Insanely high quality and helpful video. Keep it up!

[@OCRacing]

Glad it was helpful! 🙏🙏

[@worldofer1]

Timestamps (idk why i did it) 0:00 Intro #32 0:36 TM Ferrari 458 #31 0:47 PXN V9 #30 0:55 PXN V9 GEN 2 #29 1:13 TM 150/TMX #28 1:21 TM T128 #27 1:30 PXN V10 #26 1:44 LOGITECH G29/G920 #25 2:05 LOGITECH G923 #24 2:20 PXN V99 #23 2:37 TM T248 #22 2:54 TM T300 RS #21 3:18 MOZA R3 #20 3:46 TM TS-XW #19 4:11 CAMMUS C5 #18 4:33 VELOCITY ONE #17 5:13 TM T-GT II #16 5:38 PXN V12 LITE #15 6:09 MOZA R5 #14 6:38 CSL DD (5NM) #13 7:04 GT DD PRO (5NM) #12 7:36 CAMMUS C12 #11 8:05 TM T818 #10 8:42 CSL DD (8NM) #9 9:10 MOZA R9 #8 9:32 GT DD PRO (8NM) #7 9:52 CAMMUS DDWB #6 10:20 MOZA R12 #5 10:41 ALPHA MINI #4 11:22 MOZA R16 #3 11:53 CLUBSPORT DD #2 12:35 ASETEK LA PRIMA #1 13:03 CLUBSPORT DD+

[@RayyanJaleel001]

Needs to be pinned!

[@ultrasaiyan4283]

@@RayyanJaleel001 No simucube? Meh

[@sqwark4523]

No Logitech g pro? Meeeeehhhhhh

[@JakobGossmann]

@@sqwark4523Logitech g pro is good, however it is expensive compared to most d-d wheels.

[@KendrickCrawford-b8h]

Thank you

[@primesuspect4992]

Just getting into Sim racing with my son. I just ordered a R12 couldn't beat the price compared to others. Your video made me feel way better about my decision. +1 subscriber.

[@tooeasy1100]

I‘ve switched this year to the DD+ despite fanatecs hiccups. It’s really great. Even without the FullForce support. Not seeing myself switching anytime soon.

[@tooeasy1100]

@damsen978 They‘re bankrupt right now and are looking for an investor. But this story is more like a blockbuster than a regular bankruptcy. Also they had delivery and customer service issues.

[@wisniatd]

Probably Fanatec getting bunkrupt. ​@damsen978

[@saltyc165]

@damsen978 the brand is literally STRUGGLING to stay alive because of some internal problems they had with bad management and supply chain issues. infact just last year on black friday they had thousands of orders not fulfilled for months because of these problems. It got so bad they fired the ceo and a new one took over. and obviously with these problems come slow customer support and warranty help and it was really just a mess. they're slowly getting back on track but with the lawsuits because of the previous problems and all these other issues, its best to give them some time as a brand before buying their products just to be safe

[@Nicolas-gt1cx]

@damsen978bankruptcy ?

[@johnathanrmarsh]

@@Nicolas-gt1cx Corsair owns them now.

[@xDriver69x]

The DD+ is so exceptionally good. It just excels us in so many ways that using it for hours every day is nirvana.

[@eugenecia9424]

Have had the DD1 for years, now have the QR2, still works fine, I especially like the setup, you can set the steering wheel for 5 games, I would miss that, so I hope Fanatec will continue to exist.

[@Bunnizx]

Honey wake up, oc posted!

[@OCRacing]

Must be nice to have someone to call honey 😪

[@luzzer4242]

😢​@OCRacing

[@TronixHarper]

@@OCRacingbro u should be thank full or you would not have all this stuff 😅

[@thermgraphics6937]

@@TronixHarperI think he was just joking bro relax 😂

[@torchingurchin157]

He might have called his beloved wheelbase to join watching the video 😅

[@YGB7726]

didn’t expect the cammus ddwb to be that high on the list

[@OCRacing]

It’s actually not bad especially considering its price and third party wheel compatibility

[@Borskie1]

Bro i just started re-watching you and when i saw your face i was like since when did this happen

[@OCRacing]

Why would you stop in the first place?! 😭🔪

[@luzzer4242]

😂

[@jochenkraus7016]

"since when did this happen" Afaik that was related to reaching 100k on KZbin.

[@MrPT98]

I think for a new entry in Sim Racing you can't go better than with the Fanatec CSL DD. With 399€ for the 5Nm Bundle with Wheel and Pedals it's really good. And even the 8Nm Bundle for 499€ is still cheaper than Mozas R5. Hope to get one of it in near future

[@JoseFcoBN]

Fanatec will end up disappointing you, like the vast majority...

[@Jonny._.]

@@JoseFcoBNThe gear it selves wont disappoint. I have a DD Pro and a DD+ and both are working perfect. However my best steering wheel to put on the clubsport DD+ is the Simagic GT Neo :)

[@Team_Reaper.]

same im also collecting money to buy csl dd 8nm with load cell brake kit and a shifter

[@Jonny._.]

Cant argue with that. I still have my DD pro as a spare base to my Clubsport DD+. The gear is good.

[@Team_Reaper.]

@@Jonny._. rich

[@X1erra]

This only shows that Fanatec is a really strong brand for simracing, and just needs a push towards global availability. The only thing I hate is having to shell out more for Clubsport DD's console compatibility. Every single one of these wheels are great, but be sure to only get what you can afford, you're not missing out on much as long as you don't try the stronger ones.

[@awakeandwatching953]

eh i have the g pro and in AC on pc i cant be hitting a higher peak than 8-9nm with how i have it set on most cars.. it just causes to much discomfort to race with any thing higher.. i think once your in the 10nm sustained toque range the higher nm bases are not gonna give you much improvement in the quality of the ffb just higher nm that most people wont use any way... i dont see my self ever needing any thing more as long as logitech release a gt wheel or some one makes an adapter lol

[@storyman34]

wished you owned the Logi G PRO DD wheel.

[@pdids8947]

lol kept thinking it must mean it's higher and higher on the list when I wasn't seeing it

[@dragon2knight]

Too busy yesterday to watch this masterpiece...you're editing skills are second to none Oscar! I love the bottom to top way of doing this, well done and I agree with all of them, something I never thought I'd experience on KZbin 🤣 This goes in my fav's to send to anyone that asks me about Sim Racing wheels and how to get into it. Thanks for doing this!

[@mightyoss]

4:51 the full quote changes the meaning somewhat "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one."

[@thevaultdwellergaming]

Legendary review brohiem🫡

[@OCRacing]

Glad to hear. It took ages to make 😂

[@thevaultdwellergaming]

@@OCRacing you gotta make a video about what the ultimate sim rig would be if you combined all the best things from every sim rig you’ve owned - live if logitec gave you a blank check to design your own consumer grade rig..what would it look like🤔 I imagine it took ages to amass such collection of sim rigs just so you can take ages in making the video itself 😂 i am on the g20 for the ps5 and the thrustmaster TS-XW for Xbox and Vr/Pc I always come back here to see what’s the next leap forward in sim rigs - excited to see what these products can deliver in the next 10 years

[@bobrock704]

Thanks to you and this review I got the VRS Direct Force, keep it up!!

[@IAmUltraMAGA]

If you haven't used the Moza R16 with the new V3.0 FFB Algorithm, you need to revisit it. I loved my R16 V2 a lot before. This new beta is absolutely amazing. iRacing is much crisper and the road bumps and effects are much more noticeable. My most enjoyable driving experience so far, has been the WCS60 Legends Pack on Asseto Corsa. Paired with my Heusinkveld Sprint Pedals and TH8A shifter, its been so much fun!

[@SocialMeh]

ffb 3 is the way

[@IAmUltraMAGA]

@@SocialMehagreed. It brought new life into the wheelbase.

[@TheNewBabylon]

I just bought the Velocity One Race for $399. Does it make it better? I can still return it. Should I do so and go with a CSL DD 8NM? Which ultimately will cost a little more. Or should I stay with the Velocity, save up, and put that extra $500-$600 knowing that I will get close to the best with Fanatec?

[@kefir190]

this video just confirmed my correct choice! thank you!

[@SuperChargedRacing]

@OCRacing the ts-xw is 6.4 nm btw

[@BaumFutzi]

ur editing is so good and makes me always enjoy watching your videos keep it up

[@Moonlight-zp5rj]

Is it possible to add third party pedals like CSL Elite v2 to G29? If yes, is it plug n play or it requires additional hardware?

[@Chio_OB]

Great review, personally having used both the T818 and the CSL the T818 is better IMO than the CSL DD 8nm especially customer support!

[@SimDeed]

I'm still a bit confused i have a limited budget to upgrade from pxn v99 should i go for moza r5 or thrustmaster ts-pc

[@TheAsjdj]

I will personally go with Moza R5 bundle to start my joyrney into sim racing again. Also the prices for MOZA when it comes to my place of living (Denmark). Moza is simply easier to get hold of without having to overpay for something. Getting any kind of DD wheel here is kinda hard without having to overpay or having to ordre from outside of Denmark. Also when you play ETS2 as much as i do, getting MOZA truck wheel is a kind of a must for me. I wish there was more truck wheels, like fanatech etc. but fanatech simply doesn't care at all for there customers. Just look at the CEO, he doesn't care of how bad they handle the PR and not sending people there stuff

[@BBROPHOTO]

This is *EXACTLY* what I did for the same reasons. Availability of Fanatec stuff where I am is basically impossible without crazing shipping and import fees, which then makes it way more expensive than Moza. However, the thing that really sealed it for me is ever since the first announcement of the first DD wheelbase a few years ago, they have constantly have stock problems, people waiting months and months for orders, not responding to complaints... that's not a company I want to send my money.

[@AdamFunke94]

great list, would be cool to have a yearly update to this

[@Plaqueboycutie]

When I start making my sim rig should start with the moza r12 or save for the Asetek prima

[@Torqxracing]

Hell yeah! one heck of a video! I was actually impressed the Fanatec is number 1 over Asetek

[@NoloPasoro01]

Great ranking video. Really helpful for first time buyers for sure. Though i must say if you started off with a g27/g29/g923 then switched to at least a moza r3. The experience is night and day. Its so good. I honestly dont know how much better it gets when you buy the higher ranked wheelbases here in the list

[@Lenny4Twenny]

Looking to upgrade from the g29 this is the video i needed. Cheers brother

[@deadmanwalking1930]

Nice video bro. I own the Asetek La Prima and couldn't be happier with it

[@Lesparta]

Are used belt driven wheels still a good option? I'm planning to upgrade from a G29 to something like a Fanatec CSW V2/V2.5 or CSL Elite or Thrustmaster T300RS? Or is it worth saving up a bit for something like a Moza R3?

[@alexander3025]

Don't see a big reason to upgrade from g29 to even r3

[@miker0n327]

Love my CS DD!

[@JayKBra]

Wow, you still have some really good stuff to experience ahead of you…

[@spartaninpatryk]

Like what?

[@NMZ_mT]

I’ve just ordered a pxn v99 great vid as always keep up the good content👍

[@JamesBond77]

I think Moza is getting there with FFb details with their recent beta firmware for the R12. Can you test it and make a video ?

[@OCRacing]

I’ll see what I can do. It’ll likely be a short form video which you can find on my “oc racing shorts” channel

[@JamesBond77]

@@OCRacing ok ty.

[@Ryzza5]

With that plus the added versatility of truck wheels and stalks the R12 goes higher on the list for me. Having to purchase QR2 settlement is a huge turn off.

[@sh1nyGT]

Totally agree with Fanatec on top regardless of recent issues they have had

[@blueballs5150]

I’m just trying to do sim on ps4 and not send myself into poverty. What would a good budget setup be? And I’m looking for something with a shifter. So much different information and products about simming out there i just want to know if u wanted to spend like $500 on setup without cockpit what would you buy. A set or build?

[@Lenny4Twenny]

Go with a Logitech with an aftermarket shifter and handbreak

[@JamesBond77]

Very clear and precise informations. Ty.

[@ShiroNara]

How about the size comparison? is everything on the list have the same size ?

[@jasonting8112]

Correct me if I'm wrong, is the Fanatec Clubsport DD+ was used in the Gran Turismo movie? I remembered seeing this wheel during Jann's trying to qualify to join the GT Academy and GT Academy training scene

[@TukangCodingSukaGaming]

Thanks man 👍🏼 This is the video I need at the moment. I think will choose moza R5 for my first sim racing

[@Romad_20]

Clubsport DD +, love this wheelbase and nice to see it's #1 on your list. I've never used a Simucube but I'm wondering how much better it would be. Hopefully we get full support for the new Fanatec FFB soon. My only issue is coil whine, so mine's off in an RMA to get resolved. Luckily I stole back my Csl Dd 8nm from my son in the meantime!

[@Team_SpaceX]

Let’s goo new oc vid! Good vid oc! Also sorry for not commenting for a little been busy with school

[@OCRacing]

I’m about to be busy myself with school starting tomorrow for me 😭

[@thegeneral1955]

Love my tsxw. Dont plan to upgrade unless it breaks. If or when it does I plan on a moza r9. Also its the same internals and 6nm of torque like the TGT II only difference is the transducer on the TGT which only works on gran turismo.

[@Greenious]

I'm getting the Moza R3 bundle because I'm a filthy pc casual that just wants to do some light sim racing without having to split an atom (disassemble/reassemble my entire setup) every time I want to do anything **cough-cough G920.** It's tiny, has an extremely good quick release system and 3.9nm torque is plenty compared to the G920's 2.3nm. The R5 is also just a bit too large and the extra money is not worth the extra torque.

[@davidecatani3426]

It can also be modded with a formula wheel

[@robertcarr4172]

Love your videos... but some of the torque figures of the lower ranked bases are incorrect.

[@onigiri_rice]

V99 is 2 tiers higher than the G29? Can someone confirm cause I'm buying since it's on sale for $140.

[@mikascherhag8909]

where would you rank the csw 2.5?

[@VulgrDisplay]

Have you tried the updated moza FFB yet? Does it change your rankings?.

[@TwiceFTW]

This is a banger! You deserve a million Subs!❤

[@OCRacing]

Glad you think so! 😁

[@askeladden450]

Whats the difference between PXN v99 and v10 apart from foot paddles?

[@OCRacing]

Different pedals, different steering wheel mainly

[@schaki05]

Where would you put the new T598?

[@Sam-km3qv]

What would you see as a viable upgrade for someone coming off of a TS-XW

[@Monjardim14]

Moza R12

[@robertcarr4172]

Depends on budget. I think even a moza r9 would blow your mind

[@Sam-km3qv]

@@robertcarr4172 I was thinking R12, I don't want the R9 to be weak considering i work out

[@giogamer4825]

It took me 6 years to go from T300, to TGT, DD Pro 8nm and now to DD+, and you do it in 13:51 😂

[@Mystery_1739]

Hey man, love your content, it’s helped a ton to figure out what to get in the rabbit hole of sim racing. I’m not sure if you take vid requests, but would it be possible to do a quick comparison between the t8hs and the Amazon usb shifter? They’re around the same price and I’m not sure what to get. Keep up the good work man❤

[@ranitranman7343]

How good do you think the sim magic alpha is if you where to own one?

[@OCRacing]

Really couldn’t say as I’ve never even tried one. However, I have heard great things.

[@ranitranman7343]

@@OCRacing thank you for the feedback

[@esagheer]

Is it safe to order from Fanatec again? Is the fiasco over? 😢

[@Team_Reaper.]

we dont know lets wait and see if fanatec survives or dies and you could go with other brands like simagic , asetek ,moza etc

[@rakithagayan8371]

I think you missed the Fanatec podium wheel. Where would you rate that.

[@Edvardas96]

I would have put tne T818 a bit higher Also, wish you reviewed the Logitech DD Great video as always though!

[@FreddieWeaveriGP2]

I have to ASETEK Forte wheel base and I absolutely love it. Started with T248 and it is a decent beginner wheel base though.

[@pixelgaming0074]

😢 No mention of the Logitech G pro wheel, don’t know why you haven’t reviewed that one yet

[@OCRacing]

Ask Logitech 😭

[@needmorevbux]

DD+ is great if you’re rich. What’s best per $?

[@littlemuffin943]

i have moza R16 and SIMSONN PRO Plus Pedals all you have to do is change the elastomers out and you have a set of 2000 dollar pedals they are just like the Heusinkveld

[@Robin-ub7yd]

No

[@RelaxSimmer]

Have you used simmagic alpha wheel?

[@bryangk42]

Great comparison vid! I would be curious how you would rate the Simucube 2 Pro in this lineup.

[@mathikoux7736]

What’s your call on simagic… thinking of buying wheels and a base used

[@OCRacing]

Simagic is great honestly. It’s ranked pretty high up in this list

[@chuanjenchang3153]

13:19 you mention trueforce but it's only available on the logitech wheel, and the fullforce from fanatec has never supported by any game yet...... Just a logitech fanboy passing by

[@sampowell4311]

Does anyone know of a cheap wheel base that is compatible with a thrustmaster tm leather 28 gt wheel add on?

[@bernek9000]

I wonder if you know the difference between constant and peak power. You talk about peak Nm for some wheels and some are constant. I dont know how much you actually tried these wheels anyway.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Dude, where are you getting these torque numbers from?

[@Xpl0jd1]

I´m guessing you did not use FFB 3.0 from Moza, all opinions was on old FFB?

[@twitchyglue1133]

Can we like combine the pxn v10 wheel to the v99 wheel base tho ?

[@baudwoutvlogs]

Did you test the turtlebeach one?

[@bobboberton1841]

Great video! Hard for me to get past the appearance of the Cammus and Asetek. I like my gear to look good as well as perform 😃. Asetek also requiring you to buy their mount or drill into your existing rig is a turnoff, but hear it is a great wheel base if you don't mind upgrading those parts of your rig as well.

[@hansthepickle8138]

Asetek changed the default colors on the wheel from orange to black which changed the appearance to a normal sim wheel like any other. Additionally i did not have to buy a mount or drill my rig for the wheelbase so i really dont see your issue

[@bobboberton1841]

@@hansthepickle8138 That is great news. I didn't think anyone but Asetek supported their hole pattern out of the box.

[@PITAH1]

Cammus C12 looks good in my opinion

[@samuelstokes5229]

how is t818 better dd pro?

[@on1ons333]

Fire video oc!!!

[@Jul_dejongh]

I also like the old fanatec csl elite wheel base

[@supanatthiangsungnoen5143]

Nice vid ! I am looking to buy my first Direct drive with Fanatec or Moza. How is your experiences with Fanatec delivery ?

[@jochenkraus7016]

I'd wait what happens next with Fanatec. There's a lot going on at the moment.

[@jauhis_]

A friend of mine has been waiting for a month for Fanatec to ship his stuff, so not great. Also the future of Fanatec is really uncertain, so I would wait to see what happens with it, or buy Moza

[@supanatthiangsungnoen5143]

Hi guys, thank you for your replies. I went with Moza R16 with playseat trophy. Been having a blast in the past few days, Cheers!

[@bullit199]

Great video but you didn’t even mention the turmoil going on at Fanatec so that’s important context when making a purchasing decision.

[@Carne2000]

I bought from them in April and have had nothing but good experiences with them. But I'm not sure hiw it is now

[@miinajordantiff]

This aint a what to buy video though… its his ranking lol

[@xDriver69x]

I've had also half a dozen praises and orders this year. Absolutely zero issues. The fud misinformation with zero videos or pics seems manufactured by moza or some competitor with huge reason to manipulate and deceive.

[@WillHughesTV]

The amount of misinformation about fanatic is disgusting, after their initial fumble everything has been absolutely great. They had about 6 month period where every order in their system was being placed but not processing properly through the system, by the time they realized they were 6 months behind it was near Christmas time and it majorly and it fucked everything up for a good while. Ever since April 2024 it’s been smooth sailing. Speaking from first hand experience!

[@krizzix4668]

where are the fanatec podium wheelbases?

[@danielortega1969]

I thought the R12 would have landed a top 5 spot after its recent beta update 👀

[@TooToo246]

The Fanatec DD+ is also compatible with Xbox

[@bohanyuan8521]

Great video! I was wondering if Moza wheelbases, particularly the r9, would be compatible with Forza horizon 5

[@edcadlick2650]

I agree with you Oscar, number one😊🙋

[@OCRacing]

Glad you agree!

[@HolyGuacamolean]

7:22 I'd rather throw a trash bag over the steering wheel to protect it instead of paying $96 for a stretchy fabric condom for the steering wheel.

[@Boxplx]

The TS-XW racer has 6,4 NM of tourqe. Not 5.

[@velosterntrackdays7279]

You gotta do a “alpha mini 360hz vs moza r12 3.0 update” in IRacing & if possible with GT NEO and KS wheels

[@Nervzi]

Your hat has more force feedback then some of these wheels 👀👀

[@uani3]

not wanting to bring up negative feelings, but to improve your futue content, by title of this video I hoped or expected to get hard comparable reasons for each wheel base why it is where it is ranked. I didn't hear so for the TM 300RS and for the TM 818. You mentioned something in the intro and the AI summary mentions "price", "performance" and "ecosystem". I did not get any of this info for the mentioned wheel bases. Nm number I don't consider as "performance". I consider detail (ie. feeling small bumps in the road), reactivity (ie. how does it react to large obstacles like curbs) and latency (how quickly is input put to sim) as "performance". For such you would have to pick 1 sim and 1 track having appropriate features to compare all wheel bases. Now I can't tell what a suitable upgrade is to my wheel base. I think the idea of this video is great. Timestamps are not provided but by a nice commenter.

[@ShalikShalik-hj4ip]

10:41 jump in price they just lowered the price to 499$? like 3 days ago

[@hoot9612]

I think he means the jump in price compared to the R9

[@vitodiomede79]

I mate, thanks for your video. I wanna share with you my sim racing evolution. I started about in 2010 with logitech driving force gt (a toy) on gran turismo 6 on playstation 3, then I switched to Logitech G29 after to T300 after tgt I on PC and last step fanatec csl dd 8nm that I loved. Tomorrow will arrive the Fanatec cs dd+, I hope it will be a god upgrade from my csl dd and I hope to be quite for many years 😂😂

[@MrLillywhite2011]

I have a ts xw which has 6.4nm I'm waiting for the thrustmaster T598

[@schaki05]

Do you consider it to be a great update to your TS-XW? I have a t300 and i think the t598 would be a great update for me.

[@Skrubbe21661]

Let’s goo new OC video!

[@OCRacing]

I appreciate the support 🙏🙏🙏

[@VulcanEditing]

Itd be interesting to see where the Moza wheels rank now after their FFB 3.0 update as well as the R16 2.0 and not the 1.0 as you had pictured. Would also be curious to see where the SiMagic Alpha would place.

[@rani5752]

Will you ever test the logitech pro racing wheel?

[@chanetung6793]

unfortunately if I want a fanatec csl dd bundle in where I live I'll likely to spend 1.5 to 2X price for it, so I'll take moza r5 for now and hopefully don't regret it after I receive it

[@tomatoe44]

Wen ets 2 music back? Or framing sim