Moza Racing R16 DD FFB Wheel Kit Review

[@DaFatYak]

I would love to see a recommended complete setups for different price brackets! Keep up the good work, your videos are so good.

[@XpVersusVista]

YES! srg please do that. Wheel, pedals + stand combination for different price points. The stand is probably the most important, to know which stand is cheap enough but can still take and resist the force of a DD of different price points.

[@treemium1467]

Agreed, that would be great.

[@cheewanng6138]

Voice so soothing that is worthy of a classic music radio DJ

[@buzzfightbeer8023]

I feel like he forces it a bit. I have to listen to everything sped up a bit for it to feel natural. Lol

[@cheewanng6138]

@@buzzfightbeer8023 Maybe, but we can’t deny that his voice is as smooth as some of those high end wheelbases. Haha

[@CoyoteRacing]

Hey Barry. So I got my R16 set a lil over 2 months ago. Absolutely love the unit and I've had alot of fun with it. Recently though they've updated the software and done some fine tweaks and tuning which makes it feel alot better in my opinion.

[@DouglasThompson]

Barry, would you like to do an interview with me on my SIMterview series? We learn about all the products you present but we don't learn about you as a person. Please upvote this so he is able to see it.

[@PixelGod240]

It’s a reach but man this would be epic Doug

[@DouglasThompson]

@@PixelGod240 I think so too. I have watched so many videos of his but I really don't know much about him if I think about it.

[@pandachuzero]

the detail on this review is incredible. This has been reviewed by several well known channels and they didn't all the facts like SRG does. Good info!

[@joshuamusic8812]

Hi Barry, I assembled the nlr gttrack last night with the help of your video tutorial. Just wanted to say thanks and I'm looking forward to my first racing sim

[@minh1197]

1:11:24 "shaft play" is a kind euphemism

[@Jeankcr]

Hey Barry first of all, thank you for everything you do, you show straight what is good and what needs to improve and I think we all appreciate this a lot. I wanted to ask if you have on your list a extensive review of the Fanatec CSL DD. I know you refuse to do the review on the pre-production unit, but now that the production is on the go, I'll really wanted your honest opinion on this. Thank you very much again, for everything you do, and a hug from Costa Rica.

[@dcu21]

Maybe Fanatec doesn't want to pay his asking fee for reviews. Also Barry has different stand on Fanatecs commission program that is present with other youtubers. He might do it in the future but he will probably needs to purchase it himself, unlike getting it for free

[@XpVersusVista]

fanatec sucks. They're the Apple of the sim racing world

[@2MuckinFuch]

Moza seems like the Rich Energy of sim gear, so I've been waiting for the SRG review

[@bigredracingteam9642]

Regarding the 'FFB Effect Equalizer,' I think it's best to disregard the vague descriptions provided on the top of the graph and simply think of it as a bank of tuned band-pass filters affecting the FFB signal, not unlike the graphic equalizers on old HiFi sets. E.g. if you feel the wheel vibrating too much you'd lower one of the higher bands, if you get oscillation, lower one of the lower bands. About the "Hand off protection," I think it's meant to reduce the torque when it senses the user have let go of the wheel. The Simucube 2 bases have a similar feature. The STM32-PRG and DSP-PRG pins on the PCB are probably the flashing interfaces for the microcontroller and dsp chips.

[@wayneshephard]

Great to See Moza send their wheel to an all class reviewer for feedback, some issues for sure bu I think they are going to be an exciting new player in the market

[@Sp00nxl777]

Great review Barry! It's definitely helpful for people like me who fall in love with the looks of a product, before actually trying out. :)

[@adil1087]

about notchy around the center, that's the characteristic of magnetic encoder, just like simagic alpha. i also feel notchy on my diy DD wheel when i use magnetic encoder but when i use incremental encoder there is no notchy around the center

[@efilistun]

Notchy around center in Simagic Alpha? Are you sure? This is an absolute novelty.

[@vassilnikov6814]

​@@efilistun , yeah Barry said there is notchy feeling when he reviewed Simagic Alpha Mini. Others are saying that this is because of iracing's low ffb frequency and there is no such thing in other sim games.

[@efilistun]

@@vassilnikov6814 ah ok. I don't use Iracing anymore so I've never encountered the problem.

[@FriedDough]

24:02 these rims are the same as the fanatec r330 rim as well, I noticed the similarities instantly

[@Lutonboy]

Oh this is the real deal review. Great work.

[@GT2bullet]

*in Barry Roland voice* He is Barry Roland; thank you for watching Sim Racing Garage

[@bertram-raven]

The pogo-pins worry me. Pogo-pins are never recommended where the environment involves significant vibration. They tend to disconnect and reconnect at high speed. This is fine for things like charging phones or connecting batteries in items which have little chance of high speed vibration or such vibration is rare, but on a sim-wheel I can't see pogo-pins as being a wise choice.

[@Gordendo]

Hey Barry! awesome videos man, i love the detailed review. Will you be reviewing the Cammus dd? thank you

[@jacobcisco7059]

Ok Moza..you have some things that could be addressed, couple small tweeks, flex on rim and those shifters could use a fixing

[@legitcrack6438]

that much flex on the rim is acceptable but the shifter issue would make it unusable

[@LooneyTune666]

Looks great but the only thing putting me off is the lack of wheel options for it.

[@johndittmann9014]

You should do English overdubs for kung Fu movies!

[@MUTILATEDFILTH]

As always great review 👍

[@GiosSimCorner]

With power also comes great responsibility Barry

[@andreanizzola4645]

That motor looks so much better than the Fanatec. I am a big fan of Fanatec however that orange looks amazing

[@andychicago8295]

Still using my SimuCube1 20Nm Mige Wheel and see no reason to change.

[@BadWallaby]

the little "window" on the bottom of the wheel looks like some sort of IR window like on a television remote lol

[@bullit199]

Any chance Cammus is sending you gear to review?

[@Piasecznik72]

That back transceiver could be for pedals and other periferials.

[@1980VINZ]

25:50 They are clearly the same. I won’t be surprised if they’re re made in the same factory.

[@22Uzbekistan]

Flex and shifter problems, that's not great overall.

[@tryingtosurvive8518]

Maybe they added the wire and put it to the bottom of the wheel so when we turn or wheel there's a signal going to the Bluetooth from the bottom of the wheel as well. I also figure you know way more than me and I'm probably wasting my breath

[@thomaswyatt199]

I would love to see a comparison between this and the simagic alpha.

[@adamsemeniuk2743]

Please never change your mic

[@viniciusalvarenga828]

Barry Rowland, is the entrance of your video a Porsche of some kind reducing gears to enter Prima Variante in Monza?

[@SingleRacerSVR]

A NEW Wheel Kit... so where are you Mr R-VR Closet???...... ;P

[@danielgiglioti8875]

Lindaoooo... Pena que sou do Brazil e não tenho condições mas um dia vou comprar um volante para meu xbox360. Parabéns pelo vídeo

[@shauncurtis4398]

I take it once you took the rotary switches off and put them back on that play you’d felt was still present?

[@PixelGod240]

Wow pricey for a new company in the sim racing space

[@uspnightfire115]

Wonderful review as always! Looks like a quality unit, but I can't get over the look of the wheel and the wheel base. It just looks more like a toy than a professional racing wheel with the aesthetic design choices. When I first saw this wheel and base I thought it was a cheap Chinese budget knockoff.

[@radityaindera3442]

That's down to personal preference. Personally I like this variation compared to a flat box of alumunium asthetics on the wheel base.

[@voongnz]

I like the wheel. It looks like the porsche 911 gt3 rsr steering wheel from a few years back.

[@darwinLee81283]

I'm buying this and the wheel. Do I have to purchase the pedals too or no

[@russellchapman5991]

with so many options out now im really struggling to choose a set up..think im gonna go heuskiveld pedals but at a loss for a wheel/base.. want to get a durable good DD ..any suggestions im "new" ..i really enjoy your content and your approach ...is their a way to reach out to ya and get some help with making a sensible choice....like i said sooo many choices looking at mid to high end but not professional like your set up..im a enthusiast but want higher quality...anyways thanks for very detailed content..

[@DjFIL007]

Lol, they still haven't corrected "Tyer's" (instead of Tyres) in the dash display.

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

Tight tight tight - Tuco from breaking bad

[@CoachJohnie]

Coming from a TM 300 RS, which base would you recommend? T818, MozaR9 or R16? Other than power, is there much difference in the detail between them?

[@FilipoLipos]

It looks like meh product for this price as you can get better options. And those paddle shifters...i would be afraid that after so.e time they brake off. Even though it's carbon but still

[@sid12345678910]

Are the simagic wheels compatible with the moza base? And vice versa? Looks like you could somehow marry them together looking at how similar they are!

[@julianmorgan79]

I want to know the same I have a Alpha base but want the Moza Formula wheel.

[@Shogoat1304]

Will you do one on the r9 wheel ?

[@alanluth6755]

Is that compatible with the D1 type QR? looks very similar

[@joaleparadisi2358]

which steering wheels are compatible with the moza? (that is not a moza steering wheel)

[@GunC4m]

Moza r16 vs simagic alpha mini?

[@racekar80]

So I assume you would pick the DD2 above this as it has better feel especially on center notchy feel?

[@Chris-cu9tk]

DD2 is notchy the whole way around

[@johnathanmoyer2375]

It really isn't.

[@llickmogan]

Miniquads 😃

[@aperturescience2]

CSL DD?

[@wertiaaudit5746]

😆👍

[@Simcadepro]

there bluetooth latency

[@marquezpradoluisjavier7754]

😸✌🏻

[@aplanedividedthesky]

They've knocked it off Fanatec, down to the QR play.

[@Shakshuka69]

Am I missing something about the sim racing industry? Two years ago you could buy a 20nm mige with a 4 million cpr resolution encoder for under $500. Now it's all discontinued and the same thing costs 2-3 times more. What happened?

[@VisariDaBst]

World wide chip shortages and supply chains are falling apart. And inflation

[@Shakshuka69]

@@VisariDaBst I'm referring to the parts no longer being sold to the general public and rather packaged by manufacturers for obscene markup

[@VisariDaBst]

@@Shakshuka69 That's pretty much how everything is going. It's like trying to build a PC these days. Can't find a GPU but you can sure as heck buy a pre built seeing as the manufacturers can get the parts but normal people can't. Due to some of the issues I mentioned. Also due to botters, miners and scalpers.

[@Shakshuka69]

@@VisariDaBst Yeah it just stings more when it's not even consumers and flippers doing the scalping but rather the manufacturers and distributors themselves conspiring against the DIYers and being particularly greedy about it. The only unique product they bring to the table is their firmware updates and optimizations and I would much rather just pay for those than be forced to pay a huge markup for hardware I could have bought myself before it was "discontinued"

[@legitcrack6438]

if youre talking about the motor and encoder only then maybe you could find it for £$500

[@1bizvip]

Sell me an old seat mover thats i can afford

[@Toutvids]

$2000, no thanks. Especially after Fanatec just released the CSL DD.

[@Sithhy]

The DD is also "only" 6-8Nm instead of 16 like this one

[@DjFIL007]

CSL DD market wasn't Moza's target market. They wanted to go more premium (think Simucube/Podium DD/VRS), but appears to have missed that mark and can't justify their price point.

[@Toutvids]

@@Sithhy and honestly, most people will run it 8 to 10 NM so what's that $1300 premium for? An extra 2 Nm?

[@RacingPotato12]

Completely different demographic. But okay, genius!

[@carlosnaranjo1559]

This is just a message to let you know the MOZA Racing is a total nightmare if you have any issues with their products. I bought an R9 base and a Formula one wheel and both of these products came with an important number of issues. After weeks of talking to their support, which it is deplorable, I'm probably force to re-start the dispute with the help of my bank in order to get part of the money they want to keep. You really don't want to deal with people like this. They are just doing whatever the want and deciding what to pay me back. I'm looking for the possibility of putting a legal complaint agains this company. Will be talking to my bank and will be looking to my rights on this situation to make sure I do what I can to get the full reimbursement of my initial order which they informed me is not going to be the case. So please, in order to save you from getting into this hell, stay away from this company. If anyone wants to get more details or even have a call with me I will be more than happy to explain the full story I'm going through with this organization.

[@tonyelrod295]

Currently dealing with them after my r16 base ceased up. It does barely turn right, but going left it ceases. After repeatedly contacting them, they FINALLY responded after 8 days. However, when they did. They quickly came to the conclusion that I should send the unit back to them so they could look at it and fix or send me a replacement. I'm still hoping this turns out right. It was only 5 months old. I used my logitech g29 for 4 years hard racing with no issues. Smh. The moza racing experience is awesome. It's a shame this situation has tarnished that. And made me feel insecure about the product.

[@carlosnaranjo1559]

Hi @@tonyelrod295 .. It is too bad that you are dealing with this issue. In my case I was totally frustrated with the whole support experience that eventually turned into a 'nightmare' for several months costing my extra money for something that they should have take care off. I got the SIMAGIC Alhpa with the FX Pro wheel instate of the Monza and I'm just sorry I didn't do it before because I was trying to save a few dollars :) ... Simagic is just in another level... Anyway.. I hope you can get out of this situation without too many irritations. Maybe they have improved their after sales services and they will be able to fix or replace your base soon. Good luck!

[@laccoo]

Has the filtering improved with the updates?