Oeksound - Soothe 2 - Audio Examples - Mixing With Mike Plugin of the Week

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[@guitar8617]

Love Soothe, been using it since version 1. Their SPIFF plugin is super useful too for either controlling or adding transients surgically.

[@hopetea7670]

Michael I've had this for a few months, it has been useful, but this and the previous video are the best explanations I've seen yet, thanks so much for really taking the time to understand it. I'd recommend using it to solve a problem, and then burn or bounce in place to save prcessing CPU demand (as you suggested previously). Excellent stuff!

[@nickplaysviola]

Getting it. Seems like it could work really well on solo violin, viola, cello esp in close miked situations. A friend recommended this plugin but watching you play around has me sold

[@tk-zh3dd]

I could see this being very useful for restoration. Thanks for the video!

[@mixingwithmike]

Cheers!

[@tahpha3361]

Super informative video as usual. Thank you Mike!

[@mixingwithmike]

Cheers!

[@igorsenayoutube]

Nice demonstration, singer and song! You always bring amazing songs and singers to showcase, i love it.

[@mixingwithmike]

Cheers!

[@rafalvarezsevilla]

yes dude, a lot of tutorials have horrible vocals =D

[@mcsweet1966]

Hello Michael, I was looking at all your Plugin of the Week Video and I could not find one on the Plugin Alliance - Mäag Audio Magnum-K. That would be a GREAT one to cover. Thanks for all your Video

[@tinodadon]

Would using soothe be better than eqing for cleaning up tracks? Seems like I could use this to clean up any track and save time finding peaks. In that case I'm in!

[@user-bl6ov6pb7l]

wich is this amazing effect on vocal..? please...

[@joost3783]

Now that I see the demonstration I would be even more interested in a comporison of Gulfoss eq and Soothe

[@ronadish1]

and dseq

[@Am6-9]

Different tools for different purposes in my opinion, even if there is maybe some overlap.

[@2tonetony319]

Not really the same things. Soothe is far more specific, great on resonances, and can be way more aggressive. Gullfoss is for more general balancing with much broader strokes.

[@mixingwithmike]

Gulfoss is different in that it also boosts signals and acts as more of a frequency balancer.

[@Am6-9]

If the $200 for soothe is too much for you, there’s also TBProAudio’s DSEQ which is quite similar in functionality but roughly half the price. Good plugin from a very responsive and attentive developer.

[@mixingwithmike]

I've tried both, you get what you pay for...

[@Vossflying]

Michael White I agree it’s a little bit tricky to get same results

[@chaddonal4331]

Michael, I notice you are using Soothe2 fairly far along into the mix -- i.e. after other plugins have optimized the tracks. Do you typically use S2 as final polish on a primary track? Or is it more useful pre-mixing -- to edit out room resonances, vocal problems, instrument anomalies, etc. -- and then bounce for a more mixable track? And how many tracks would you go through this process on for a typical mix?

[@toribarron5700]

I have noticed Soothe works great at pretty much any point, although I like to keep it near the top of the chain in any case. It can even work magic during mastering. But a little goes a long way. Strategically tackle the harshest resonance in specific tracks, but resist the urge to run it on everything. Everything will sound smoother with it on, but you end up kinda flattening the whole mix. It also depends on genre and the vibe you are going for. An absolutely vital tool, but it is so good... and some of your song probably should shine without it or you lose something.

[@ProdbyTrehnt]

Awesome content. So in your vocal chain you have it at the end?

[@hopetea7670]

I use this, no I'd strongly recommend putting it right at the start, no matter what you're using it on. And then, perhaps burn it in to save CPU.

[@ProdbyTrehnt]

@@hopetea7670 you’re exactly right bro I’ve been committing it to my tracks sounds pretty good.

[@martinsaethren]

Anyone used is as the Trackspacer from Wavesfactory? Which one do you tend to go for?

[@mixingwithmike]

Trackspacer is a ducking plugin that ducks frequency content from an external trigger source. This is internal only. They are 2 different tools

[@martinsaethren]

Thanks for the replay, if I use an external sc source in soothe 2 it carves out the specific freq from the sc source, and sounds less "compressed" to my ears than the trackspacer. Have you tried using soothe with the external sc? :)

[@kipling1957]

Could this be used to remove muddiness in a vocal? Or low frequency room resonances?

[@everestwitman]

Yes, absolutely! You can definitely remove muddiness with this. Haven't tried it much in the sub range, but I'm sure it would work.

[@kipling1957]

@@everestwitman Thanks!

[@TadDoylemusic]

Wow! Those vocals are soooo loud. I get what you are trying to illustrate though. Thanks for the video.

[@yoelwww]

It'a very hard to hear the difference?

[@adrianschinoff2896]

Great Video and singer! Who is she? thanks!

[@mixingwithmike]

Bridge Barkan

[@EzraaaDave]

What's the difference between soothe and isotope Sculptor

[@mixingwithmike]

No familiar with Sculptor. Is that part of Neutron?

[@chaddonal4331]

@@mixingwithmike yes

[@toribarron5700]

They are both smart, dynamic EQs so they make their own curves for you. But that is where the similarities end. Sculptor quickly helps you find a basic EQ curve for a track based on the track’s content. So, it makes guitars sound like guitars, and a snare sound like a snare based on what you tell it to do. Soothe quells harsh resonances. So, when you record in an imperfect space, you can get sharp ringing in the natural resonance. Soothe targets and removes that harshness for you. To add some confusion, Gullfoss is another smart EQ that does an entirely different thing. There are times when I have used all three on a track or bus.

[@teedzay]

song title & artist please

[@TheSavage1969]

Took me some technical capturing to send via AI to figure it out but it's "Bedside Lullaby" by Bridget Barkan. Full info: Music used in this tutorial: “Bedside Lullaby” by Bridget Barkan Producer: Patrick Pelissier Mixing Engineer: Michael White Regards.

[@JM_2019]

What distracts me much more is the missing predelay on the singers reverb. :)

[@mixingwithmike]

Hmmm

[@ericfischer5605]

I'm having trouble hearing anything a deesser and/or a little dynamic eq couldn't do for the voice and guitar at a much lower price point. Maybe my ears are shot.

[@najinelson6742]

I recommend TDR Tokyo dawn, their plugins are awesome for a fair and reasonable price. Oeksound wants 199!!! What a cheek! They have two plugins only and want to become rich. I won"t support any greed.

[@mixingwithmike]

If you really understood how much work it takes to make a plugin this sophisticated and professional sounding, you could not possibly make a statement like this. I promise you, nobody is making millions off of a couple of plugins. This is not about greed, it's about getting a quality product and paying a fair price for it. I can't account for the quality of the TDL plugins, but I'd much rather support a company that makes a small number of high quality products.

[@najinelson6742]

I demoed it. There are better and cheaper plugins solving resonate issues imo. If I have too harsh cymbals or hi hats I take an eq or Softube's tape, it was 35 only. 199 is way too much, just look at prices of better known developers like Tokyo dawn, Izotope, Eventide, Plugin Alliance, Waves etc., they make great sale prices. In Scandinavia people seem to think money grows on trees like leaves. There are more and more plugins with eg AI technology, especially in times of corona, I would not pay more than 35 for a plugin like this, I do not need it anyway. I think the better way is to learn mixing properly, I am still learning... If their target is a professional customer, they will not make a lot of money. If a prof used it, I would ask myself if he really is a prof having to use a plugin like this. Developers make money first and foremost by selling it to the vast majority of home users for fair prices!

[@mixingwithmike]

@@najinelson6742 I appreciate your opinion and we will have to agree to disagree. All of the companies you mentioned other than TDL are major companies with big resources and none of them make a product that specifically does what Spiff or Soothe does. I'm am very glad to hear that you are studying how to mix right. That is every reason why I created this channel and my online mixing school.

[@najinelson6742]

@@mixingwithmike Small developers like klanghelm, cableguys, ddmf, audio assault, kazrog and more with superb plugins and fair prices and offers. Your channel is great by the way

[@mixingwithmike]

@@najinelson6742 Yes, they do, I am a huge fan of Kazrog in particular. None of these companies make a competing product to Spiff and Soothe. The ones that do like Sonible and Sound Theory (Gullfuss) are in the same price range. TDL does not have a plugin that comes anywhere close to the capabilities of Soothe or Spiff and I have yet to find one that does and sounds good. I completely understand about the economics around Covid. I am mostly defending Oeksound because they make a great product. If nobody buys it, they will have to lower the price. That's their choice. For the full time professional engineer, I think it's a great investment. Personally, I'd rather have 20 amazing plugins and pay full price for them, than 150 semi professional plugins that I can buy for $29 each. It's a better investment...