Mr. Steele and Le Drib try a "TRUE 175C" battery

[@willsintheair]

I haven't even started this video and I'm soooo happy to see you guys working together!!

[@attackfpv]

Was pulling 120 amps holy f$#@. Love these "old" videos. Crazy how the hobby changes in such a short time.

[@SgtScrewup000]

The bit where we compare the audio is quite telling. The Unicorn battery dropped to 14v after already discharging 650mah, whereas the thunderpower dipped to 13.5 on a pretty fresh 180mah draw. maybe not worth $65 but if you are at the top tier of racing and need every amp and volt you can get this may make a difference.

[@dominiclallande]

Love this approach: "here's the science - and here are some respected opinions"

[@thengine7]

I wish they said"and here is the class action lawsuit you can join against their false advertisement"

[@HDgodfrey]

Drew at 10:33 "We don't have to record it but..." I think... "thought you knew Mr. Bardwell better than that." FOR SCIENCE! It's why we love him so much! We love you too Drew!

[@pmm4177]

But that battery is twice the cost of the tattu 1550 100c 4s. For the way i fly id rather have 2 tattu batteries over 1 maxamp battery

[@gladiatorfpv3506]

pmm4177 agreed!

[@screaminseagull]

Those are my favorite batts.

[@jaredz9507]

Bro those tattus are amazing I have a 450mah 3s at 75c and there great I have a scimitar 110 thing rips

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Just ordered me some tattu batteries to test. 3S and 4S different mah..

[@letsgofast1187]

Even if they were 175c I'd rather just have 2 bats

[@Tuidkskiwjdhdbd]

Dude with blue hair i love the way he flies i was so into it. I was smiling like crazy great stuff and you could here how excited he was to use it.

[@davidfarmer1736]

I learned how useful the amp draw is. Year and a half and still something new every day.

[@SteelyEyedH]

Nice to see a real world after the bench test. Thanks

[@Merky_Gz]

Hi guys.. the best combo to me is a motor with less kv and a powerfull battry descharge into it.. and the Tork are sharp and mad.. Banging for accro flips etc..

[@neweraccount5615]

I’m soooo pumped because you are

[@MrDirrrty]

Good to see Steele hanging out with the other guys.

[@dpqbpqbdpqbpqb4754]

Really great idea combining the 2 videos, so that you see mainly the gopro, but also the telemetry of the FPV camera. !!

[@robertreitz5554]

Steele, ledrib, ,butter, flow... you guys always amaze me.

[@dtmracing1]

So happy to see Steele back in the mix. Hes an odd ball for sure but I'm an odd ball too so I'm a fan lol

[@desertdronepilot]

6:40 how do I setup that music when I plug in my drone?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

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[@desertdronepilot]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you! I really appreciate it have a great day.

[@alanalford5996]

Hey Joshua, nice work having Steele on. He’s totally OG!

[@trumpeytoes7450]

@Little Miss Sunshine I think hes a honest guy, reminds me of nikola tesla.

[@joelwhite1996]

Maxamps has been doing this for years. Selling packs with unprovable numbers with huge pricetags. And at best are ok.

[@BoosiveFPV]

Its pointless asking Steele. If its something steele isnt flying. Steele will not like it. Thats just the type of guy he is.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

To be honest I thought he was a little positive.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

To be honest I thought he was a little positive.

[@BoosiveFPV]

Joshua Bardwell really? Came across to me that he couldnt of given a F. And just wanted to fly his setup 🤣

[@Smt_Glaive]

He didn't give a shit... He is a arrogant prick

[@woodgreen8982]

+Meru Fpv jep cuz he knows hes a big puss

[@Its_Mee_Bee]

I’ll never pay for a maxamps battery on my own. But one thing I’ve not seen you talk about is the warranty, and whether that makes any difference on your opinion.

[@VdubSPAZ]

Not that there's anything wrong with your videos Joshua I just been kind of doing other things but the main reason why I watch this was because mr. steel was on it.... He gives it straight and he didn't have any brand loyalty.... You and the driver cool too so don't worry don't feel butt hurt about it.... But mr. Steele was what actually got me to watch the video ....

[@plainuser48596]

What are you talking about ? Steele is definition of brand loyalty. Not only he is sponsored by many brand(directly or indirectly) he also has his own series of hardware. Hell he never is straight about products if it is competing with his sponsors

[@hateeternalmaver]

I think that's the best way to really compare two batteries. Good job.

[@WarChest]

Great opinions and comparisons from two pilots who fly completely different quads and styles. Looks like they're charging $25-$30 more to put 175C on the label.

[@RonWilliams215]

Have yous tried measuring the battery performance by using full throttle vs distance (height/length). For example full throttle the drone from a stand still for 1 second. Compare the measurements in height at which the drone get for each battery pack. Also, try running a [DRL] course.

[@pmm4177]

Bardwell, you guys seriously need to come up toward the des moines area!

[@CreepinFPV]

Thanks for the side by side testing, that just shows that maybe theres just hype around the pack...

[@droneparksworldwide9364]

Thanks for coming to Houston Josh!

[@a_dog_and_a_man]

Why there is a jump from 366mAh (2:19) to 525mAh? :/

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The flights were edited for time.

[@buddahxd8559]

I wonder how those batteries might work for my 5' 2850kv quad that's drawing about 150amps on punch outs...but at 60$ i dont think i'm gonna find out

[@RockTouching]

Drew killed that Thunderpower! 3.2 volts per cell LOL

[@patregan]

This is why I'm running cheap 5S packs on motors with too much kv. The batteries have more punch than 4S batteries, and they have just about as much punch when I land at 3.65v as they do when fully charged. These are just $25 CNHL 5S packs. Nothing fancy, but they feel better than any 4S pack I've tried.

[@xNmMmAx]

It seems like the maxamps is able to hold more voltage under load and recover more volts after a hard pull when deep in the run. Just my observation.

[@connorspies]

Hey Joshua, I really like your videos. Really informative and educational. Would you kindly make a video about your farm? I'm really interested, and I think it would be well received by the community here! Thank you!

[@RADERFPV]

I appreciate Drew and JB's enthusiasm, just saying.

[@sdrawkcabnipyt]

Silly question since Im still new to FPV. Wouldn't the ESC's be limiting maximum amp draw. From what I know most people use 32a ESC's... 32x4 is 128.. which is pretty much what we saw. Maybe the other hardware is limiting the outcome.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The ESC amp rating is not a limit. The ESC will deliver more amps, it will just be damaged if you regularly draw too many amps.

[@BadChizzle]

Cool! Steele and Drew... golden day!!

[@aldoyosbel1728397263]

I'm sorry to ask again is it the bear Creek s or different place. Im just new in Houston, try to find other people to fly . Thanks

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The Drib part of this video was at Bear Creek.

[@aldoyosbel1728397263]

Perfect, thanks so much Congrats for u channel, I can't get out of here, I'm learning a lot. Keep going

[@MaEtUgR]

@Le Drib Puffy and hot after you used it to 12-13V hover voltage? I would be surprised if it wasn't damaged!

[@pkvillager]

My question is who uses these packs? Any known pilots? Even if they last double the cycles you can buy double the packs and fly more per session.

[@VdubSPAZ]

It was cool to see everyone together again..... I've always wondered about the Max Amps winning the RC buggy world.... They would take more abuse Cycles but that was it and I was wondering what they would be like on a quad thanks for your guyses review I definitely answered my question

[@GLXYFPV]

I wandered what the Ghostbusters theme was from. it was ledrib's start-up. seems like a decent battery especially pulling 100A at full. not sure I would get one for £60 though.

[@leftovercrass5210]

Do you just fly until the Mah is the same as written on the battery? Or do you watch til it gets down to a certain volt? Eyeliner dude rips

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The voltage. Fly until the voltage is sagging into the mid 14. Battery should rest at about 15 after the flight.

[@leftovercrass5210]

Joshua Bardwell cheers mate.

[@Fpvfreaky]

You guys are awesome I had fun

[@ryaneickmeyer6191]

Joshua, it would be interesting to see steele and le drib use this battery with different hardware, IE different motors/props...I don't exactly know which motor/prop combination would be best in this case...but for instance, maybe heavier props that produce more thrust at the cost of being more power hungry. It would be interesting to see their reaction then. I'm just thinking their reaction may have been lack luster due to the fact that they're using their normal setup, motors/props, which would have the same power draw if they weren't battery limited to start with...which it looks like they were not. Steele - "Feels like a 1500...thats all I got." lel

[@freepilot1019]

Lets try both brands, new packs, 20 flights, 20 charges, each, abusing them a little bit. 2-4 different pilots/styles. End result will be much more realistic.

[@afrog2666]

Yeah, because organizing that is simple and cheap, and practical ;)

[@AfterFPV]

Crossover episode meets a crossover episode! I was hyped, not for the batts or the motors. They both fly so good.

[@cyberdust2000]

How does the xt60 connector affect this? Aren't they restrictive over 60 amps? Maybe vs an ec5 connector rated for 120 amps continuous??

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No they just get a little hot.

[@Ugly_Baby_Gaming]

@@JoshuaBardwell yes they get hot coz they act like a resistor or they would stay cool... you just won't notice it

[@goggl3boy]

6:36 - JB goin gangsta was unexpected but appreciated. "DAT UNICAWN!" XD

[@sfersystem]

Great test, but why M. STEELE setup don't go over 100A, is it limited ? (this is better for lipo's durability) and the power is enough to make crazy thing !

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I dunno. He says it is very efficient and light.

[@zxld1337]

6:40 beep sound how?

[@PIDtoolbox]

It's unfortunate because while it's clearly a great battery, I think most people will find the price tag outweighs the added value

[@Vousie]

Well, based on both guys' experience in this video, it's clearly not a great battery, given that neither of them felt it was much different from their normal batteries, despite the fact that it's much more expensive.

[@abnormallynormal8823]

Vousie V but both of them both normally fly what are considered to be great batteries, so if they don’t see much difference, they still think it’s a great battery. Is it too expensive? Yes

[@chrisroselli]

Steele at Kwad Camp. Never thought I'd see it. Very cool.

[@jeremy9612]

Le dirb his quad has a awesome startup sound

[@mrpigeon842]

Looking back at the videos you can see the Max Amps has higher voltage at the end with less sag on Dru flight. I think it’s impressive that it sustained the same abuse with less heat BUT... I didn’t catch if the second battery dru flew was the same MAH as the Max Amps. But for me, I wouldn’t pay more for such a small gain.

[@AdaptFPV]

now can you try AceHe 75c at 1/3 of the price?

[@lukerondeau8442]

So a 4 cell battery can be charged to 16.5 volts?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

A 4-cell battery can be charged to 4 x 4.2 volts.

[@bugsysiegals]

@Joshua, I've a question about Drib pulling 120-130 amps in this video ... I see lots of videos of guys going full throttle to climb buildings which makes me wonder whether a 30A ESC could handle this without burning up or having a short lifespan?

[@skizzarz]

wicked outro! sublime.

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

hey Joshua, its me again with the rx loss. sorry this is off topic but im still getting rx loss after replacing literally everything in a wizzard i have.. i crashed it, it was a minor crash with no visible damage but it wouldn't arm. i took it home, connected and got rx loss. i tried everytging to fix it. updated everytging. no luck. replaced the fc and rx and cable.. wtf am indoig wrong? iv used bf and inav for a while and set up several quads and never had this issue. i cant get anything to arm.. its always 3 or rx loss.. iv tried three quads and its the same flag.. i even went out and bought a new laptop! any help would be appreciated. last time you responded you were convinced my RX was bad but obviously its somthing else im doing wrong. thanks.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It is either bad hardware, bad wiring, or bad configuration. If you replaced the hardware then that leaves the wiring and configuration to check. For the SPRACINGF3 you should probably have serial rx like SBUS soldered to UART 3 rx on top of the board. In the Ports tab, uart3 has serial rx enabled. SBUS selected in the configuration tab as serial protocol type.

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

Joshua Bardwell it must be the config. but i cant seem to figure out where im going wrong? and serioiysly it needs to be soldered!? mine came with a plug and worked just fine. maybe il try soldering it on the old board and see if that works. i feel like i cant be the only one having this problem. it must be somthing very basic in the configurator. its happening on three different models.

[@stupotmcdermote]

hi can you recharge and use a puffy battery

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes, but it won't perform well.

[@CarterColeisInfamous]

in houston? goodness i need to catch up

[@HomeGrownCanadianFPV]

Thank you, really wanted to see this...

[@Plur307]

BLheli_32 and some blackbox data would eliminate all the guesswork. You could see exactly the RPM difference at full throttle.

[@jonbbaca5580]

Drew nailed it...It's a novelty product. I don't care how good a battery is, I'm never gonna spend $600 on ten batteries that I could smash and kill on its first flight. I'd buy 20 $30 every time. But it might be fun to have one for those special flights

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Well one factor is they have a lifetime warranty. So if you make enough claims you even out.

[@jonbbaca5580]

Joshua Bardwell wasn't aware of that. That actually changes the calculus considerably

[@MrSutekii]

The biggest difference came toward the end of the packs. All the packs were sagging into the low 14s on hard punches, but the MaxAmps did spring back quickly and toward the tail end of the packs it seemed the MaxAmps was staying higher than 13v toward the end of its capacity. The main question is; how much of that is because it was a new pack vs older packs? The benchtest definitely shocked me with how well it did. You really need to compare it on a racetrack though where you have definitely lines and consistency is key. Then the last question will always be, how many cycles it can keep.up that performance. My Revo GO 1350mah 70C started out strong but it didnt take long for them to just completely die. If I fly as hard as I can on a track, I get less then half a lap before it just sits in the high 12 to low 13v and completely dies in the ass mid in a hairpin unable to pull out of it. Yet despite the fact its saggier than your grandmas mammaries, they arent puffing or getting excessively hot.

[@mattbfpv7172]

So conclusion is, if you want to spend 60$ on a battery, your not going to get a bad battery, iif your not going to the moon then you don’t need to go 150c . I find cnhl batts are just as good as adrenaline 100c . And id rather spend 25$ for a battery than 50$. Good test Josh, keep up the good work you do!

[@MorningView]

oh so stevle back with rotoriot now?

[@the23]

Hi JB nice to see you :P

[@exploringtrends139]

What drones been used here?

[@thisismecantuseeitsacz5823]

I like Bardwell and le drib although all three of them can fly really well

[@skimowhite586]

If anyone saw the amperage draw the highest amperage draw on Steeles battery was 90 amps the highest draw on the other battery was 115 120 amps

[@kyaelectronics6106]

Coming here to see the idol fly. Steele & drib 🙌

[@lalithkishore3774]

Max amps lipo is the world people use it for combat robots usually with 300A or like 800A brushless esc so it tells us y it's good.

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

there has to be somthing we are missing.. iv done eveything you said and it doesnt work. my rx will connect to my evolution but still i get the rx loss flag.. how can that be? how can the controller connect when there is rxloss? if its bot communicating with the fc how can it bind, ect.. if we solve this ill put $50.00 in your paypal. my pkoblx board works just fine.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You may have the RX wired up incorrectly, or the FC may be configured incorrectly.

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

Joshua Bardwell nope. something is wrong with beta flight. iv done it every way possible, iv taken the rx from my working bfight and put it on my dark max and it doesnt work. a brand new never before flown dark max. iv taken the working rx from a custom quad running inav and put it on my wizzard that has a brand new board, i even checked the old sprf3 FC and it still works just fine other than the rx doesnt work. my pikoblx works just fine. i have a few more boards to test these rx with that im going to work on today but im not stupid, iv made this work before.. and now it doesn't. iv done everything everyone (who is anyone) has said to try. im guessing there is a problem with the new stand alone configurator or somthing.

[@benjaming9835]

I've been flying thunderpower since i started in RC, 2001 they are the best, just cost alot.

[@MadMarcWinnipeg]

Wow, that was cool ! Geez those guys are good. You two. Killer video, thanx for the demonstration. 😁 Are their smaller batts that good two ?

[@gladiatorfpv3506]

Great video! I like this real world type of comparison even if its not all that scientific. Max Amp seems cool but I doubt I will ever switch to using them.

[@FerralVideo]

The MaxAmps definitely sustained voltage better. That said, as Le Drib noted, you were comparing package-fresh MaxAmps to tired worn-out Thunderpowers. Also Drib murdered that poor final pack.... 12.1v at disarm o.o no wonder it was puffed up!

[@jeryjohn]

Try the gold spec 1300 ive pulled 134a with my 7" setup

[@Chub4Chevy]

Why flip when landing?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Just the way he is.

[@jesselopezdrones4396]

Ok baby we pulling in the entrance

[@Hakken1]

I can't believe Mr. Steele can stand there all non chalant next to Joshua Bardwell. I would be screaming like a teenage girl at a Beatles concert asking him to autograph my chest.

[@iandavis5329]

when is the next quad camp? are they yearly?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

There are no quad camps scheduled for now.

[@bengordon7635]

Tatuu R-Line 5.0 150c 1200mah 6s .. best battery ever made for racing or freestyle .. tiny like a 4s and super light

[@Jax-pg3zm]

@joshua bardwell can you test team Orion batteries please??

[@pcm2638]

What park in Houston were you flying at? I have used Max amps never really impressed . for an old rock and roll flyer I will stick whit Pulse. Great flying Le Drib!!!

[@Timanator]

Hey josh, Are you from Houston? Thanks for all your videos.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No, I live in Nashville.

[@ozzysquads8447]

I have tried the MAXAMPS , because im big into EDF's, more power at 100c, its BS, after 4 months the pack puffed at storage charge, and now i buy Motion Admiral lipos rated at 50c, and they are just as good at 1/3 the cost ???? Big Hype with lipos over 60c, for example i bought a 6s 5000mah 100c for 250.00 dollars and 3 months later after 20 flights the Lipo puffed, back then i thought the more they cost the better , was i wrong

[@munch9923]

Looks like some good ole' fun

[@taysfpv7646]

hahaha i love le dribs reaction. "Well this really tells you nothing" lmao

[@wwmilanl]

Where is Houston is this park?? can you please tell me?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Bear Creek if my memory serves.

[@wwmilanl]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks very much.

[@OTRaiNzy]

Location?)

[@PesterBotLoFi]

Yeah this is definitely a skill level thing. If you aren't upgrading your motors and doing some craz stupid maneuvers.. what's the point of paying more for something that doesn't really make much of a difference with your current set up? Drew kinda shows us that you can lay on the throttle a bit more... but is that really worth it without getting more performance? Also... how do all these guys fly together? These are all the guys I watch... in one... how can I get in on this knowledge and experience?

[@cjwintyfpv9657]

Oh I wish we could buy batteries like that in the UK!!

[@chemistt]

You can get Acehe I bet :P or Amax Inno 90C batteries that are even batter it seems......as I am flying and pulling 143A out of it and it will get just warm....no puff

[@920fpv]

Max amps is gonna have a Hitman after you..haha

[@SFPV]

Who flies 4s these days??

[@danieldimitri6133]

I can hear a pitch difference in the audio. Steele's props are definitely going faster. But it actually looks like the weight fully counters that and maybe more on the bottom of the punchouts. It seems to me that if the battery is better per gram of mass then perhaps the props these freestyle guys use for battery life just aren't pushing back against the motors to see it. Personally I can get tattu 75c batteries so cheap I can't see exchanging 3 for 1. It seems the new trend is to get the better relative amp handling per gram with 6s and low kv. Oohh imagine a 6s 175c maxamps battery. Might be worth it for someone who makes money racing. But not for me

[@brendand.2269]

Yea Drew you pulled 130 amps on both except the maxamps still had 14 volts and your usual pack was 12 volts and burning hot. Duhhhhh

[@yarkog7]

JOsh, what camera did you use to record this? Picture looks super clear and crisp watching it even on only 720p, let me know pls..

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Panasonic Lumix G85