How to FPV (Part 7) LiPo Battery CHARGING | Is Parallel Charging DANGEROUS ???!

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Mr Steele

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@shoutatthesky
@shoutatthesky 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell started reciting equations so I came here and got an explanation I could understand. Thanks Steele.
@filippinoflipfpv1380
@filippinoflipfpv1380 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao..same here
@MountaineerFPV
@MountaineerFPV Жыл бұрын
Fk’n A 🇺🇸👊🔥
@Eric_Offroad
@Eric_Offroad 5 жыл бұрын
The most overlooked aspect of any powered hobby is battery management.
@MactacFPV
@MactacFPV 5 жыл бұрын
This is great, Steele. I think that the one thing that people often forget is that parallel charging can also damage your batteries if you parallel charge packs with very different internal resistance, or you parallel charge a pack with an iffy cell - it can damage your other packs. If you have a pack where one cell is consistently lower than the others, never put it on a parallel board with other packs. If you have a pack with high internal resistance, don't put it on a parallel board with other packs.
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
This is very true. That is what I stated to make sure your batteries are in good conditions :). Because yes. Charging crap batteries with new ones will for sure hurt the new Packs. Thanks for the comment m8.
@MactacFPV
@MactacFPV 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSteeleFPV Word. do we still say that? How about: Werd. Or maybe we don't say that anymore either... :/ Anyways, thanks Steele for these howto videos. This is a valuable resource for everyone trying to get started in this hobby. We all take it for granted that we know all this stuff, but all of us who have been doing it for a long time had to learn the hard way - and it takes a LONG time. You're helping people get up & running much more quickly that we did years ago. The more people in the hobby, the better it is for all of us. You're doing God's work... or werk.
@aliensanonymous5063
@aliensanonymous5063 5 жыл бұрын
he covered that in the video. anyone who didn't bother to watch isn't going to bother to read your comment and follow it.
@RubberTag
@RubberTag 4 жыл бұрын
How do you check what condition the batteries are in? How do you know if one cell isn't working? Etc
@Cre8ionz.
@Cre8ionz. 4 жыл бұрын
For safety, use a "Bat-Safe" for charging your LiPo's !
@BadChizzle
@BadChizzle 5 жыл бұрын
I think you’re doing it right, Steele. You’ve been working hard and making a lot of content in order to grow your brand... and I respect that! Keep it up, man. I think it’s gonna pay off for you in big ways. I’ve also noticed work you’ve done in other areas that I won’t mention, but let’s say these aspects are not going unnoticed by those who have an eye for such things. Props, man! Keep it up and go strong!!
@zacharymccoy9262
@zacharymccoy9262 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ricardomendez6990
@ricardomendez6990 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos couldn't be more descriptive and clear. Covering topics such as batteries will help me and everyone stay safe and keepin healthy batteries. Keep these vids comin!!
@toddsanford7757
@toddsanford7757 10 ай бұрын
I have a EE degree and work for USRobotics. We eat lipo for breakfast. Fact#1 everything i heard you say is correct. Fact#2 charging in Parallel is best for your batteries, Especially if you religiously balance. Fact#3 charging is parallel balances your batteries better and faster. Unverified #1, lol I charge in parallel regardless of total battery voltage, I only check that each cell is close to its own battery. your extra careful method is fine. Great straight forward to the point video.
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 10 ай бұрын
🙌. Finally someone who understands me :)
@toddsanford7757
@toddsanford7757 10 ай бұрын
Im an owner of the largest Tungsten Steel mine in america. I would love to have Mr Steel film it with a freestyle. This place is rad. google springer tungsten mine. i film it all the time but i don't fly as good as you do. ROAD TRIP BRO @@MrSteeleFPV
@toddsanford7757
@toddsanford7757 10 ай бұрын
im an owner of the largest Tungsten steel mine in america. It would be awesome if you guys would have an event here or at least come fly it... epic scenery and machinery to fly through. you're Mr Steel for gods sake man, i wanna show u a pic@@MrSteeleFPV
@mattinman8285
@mattinman8285 5 жыл бұрын
Love the expertise and experience you bring to the hobby Steele. Instead of looking at a bunch of forums or whatever, I can watch a 15min video and not only learn how to do things safely, but understand the basic concepts which is great for promoting active thinking and regard for safety. Keep it up mate!
@lukeanth0ny
@lukeanth0ny 5 жыл бұрын
Love the series. Never flown FPV. Never really flown RC either. I had an rc glider as a kid and recently found a dji tello for $5. This series makes me want to fly FPV, I dreamed of it growing up but the technology wasn’t around for consumers. Probably the best advice from the series is battery management. I have a boat that runs 4S and I never bothered to use the charger that came with it. I bought a Tenergy TB6B at the same time as the boat, batteries and one of those voltage checkers. The charger is supposed to be balanced but I can’t seem to get the cells to the same voltage. Maybe crappy batteries or a bad charger. Everyone safe flying, or piloting whatever RC you operate!
@mikerosane1858
@mikerosane1858 5 жыл бұрын
Im learning alot but mostly i need a second job to really get into this
@rydaug79
@rydaug79 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the video of you showing us what batteries/chargers/balance board/ power supply we need to buy?
@vid828
@vid828 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Daugherty yep we need this
@DS-xv1cg
@DS-xv1cg 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you're talking the time to explain every little detail. This really helps people get into the hobby. Thank you keep up the good work.
@Crusader4633
@Crusader4633 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see someone that's not ultra-paranoid about lipos. They don't "just blow up," it's always a case of violating rules. :)
@Krunked
@Krunked 5 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate that your videos arent chopped up in editing. thanks for growing the hobby!
@kevinjulievan
@kevinjulievan 5 жыл бұрын
Good video ! I have parallel charged for several years . I only had one charging fire and it was because I got lazy that day and didn’t check all the packs prior to charging . Also might be good to mention that fireproofing your charging area is pretty easy to do . I charge on some old ceramic tiles and have a smoke detector and fire extinguisher in my charging area and it came in very handy !
@balint133
@balint133 5 жыл бұрын
You've said 0.3V difference per cell (4:50)? I've always thought that this "rule" applies to the entire pack. I might have been doing this wrong but I'm always ensuring that the entire pack is within ~0.2-.3V plus checking each individual cell.
@PinchTune
@PinchTune 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool Steele. I use two WP power supplies in series for the 24v output mainly because that's how I started as I was flying planes before I flew quads. That said, starting with a higher voltage than that of the batteries, such as 24v to feed a charger that will charge 6s, 5s, 4s, 3s, etc is more efficient that upping the voltage from 12v to feed higher voltage batteries. That's why I've kept the setup. It is now about 6 years old and still ticking nicely.
@NeverenCH
@NeverenCH 5 жыл бұрын
Hy Steele, i just watched all of your How to FPV Videos and i learned a lot! Thanks for that. I really hope you'll continue this series, because i'll need help putting together a quad in the future ;D
@IshamPadron
@IshamPadron 5 жыл бұрын
I bought an ISDT charger and when it arrived it didn't have an plug adapter to power it. Took me a bit to figure out why they sell it like that but all of the reviewers and commentators talk like its common knowledge. What I ended up doing it re-purposing an HP charge brick and putting an XT60 on it. I'm sure that server power supply is better at producing juice and I'll probably rig something like that. This hobby is not really easy to get into and I think If I didn't work in IT and just have general problem solving skills all of this would be impossible. Thank you for the explanations and advice as I am still a noob and this is very helpful to me.
@djdubnub7366
@djdubnub7366 5 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, I actually get it now! So, no parallel charging is the cell voltages that are more than 0.3V apart. You can only charge the same cell count in a single channel parallel charger. Don’t poke your battery with a nail. You can charge different cell count batteries on different channels. Batteries use DC, as do most electronics. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR BATTERIES BEFORE CHARGING OR YOU DIE As long as you follow the 0.3V rule, you can plug in the balance lead first with no problems Charging 3 batteries at (1c?) is taking the operating current and multiplying by 3. eg. 1100mA x 3 =3300mA Mr Steele is not responsible for human error. Get a great power setup. Reduce the risk of your house dying. Mr Steele, please reassure me that I’m correct. I want to make sure that I don’t have any problems with batteries.
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
😆
@BSNfilmcraft
@BSNfilmcraft 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope I get a certificate of completion after watching this whole series... 📜🖋🐥 . I always learn something
@LJT9393
@LJT9393 5 жыл бұрын
Spiro_fpv maybe if we’re lucky we’ll get a drone, goggles and radio instead 😏
@matthew164
@matthew164 5 жыл бұрын
I damaged the same cell on 6 batterys one time due to 1 bad cell on one batt, now i always check every cell before parallel charging
@DimmyV
@DimmyV 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving this series. Thanks for sharing. Btw what’s the end song?
@denniskatinas
@denniskatinas 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the next parts of this series man, can’t wait. Cheers!
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure
@countryboydrones4098
@countryboydrones4098 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of batteries ... What would cause a quad to flip right under punchout power on a 5s, but be okay if giving smooth slower power to full throttle? Does fine on 4s, but 5s and 6s causes it to flip to the right on a punchout. Any ideas? 45A X-Rotor Stack ... XNova 2204-2900KV motors ... 35V-1000uf Cap
@Woo-7073
@Woo-7073 3 жыл бұрын
So Ive seen conflicting info on what to plug in first. The balance lead or the discharge lead? Can you please go into more detail about plugging the balance lead in 1st rather than the discharge lead. Thank you for the great videos!
@chuckkissel2785
@chuckkissel2785 5 жыл бұрын
I think safest thing to do is charge your packs to storage individually, then when you are ready to fly parallel charging is key to getting them all charged up quickly and safely since all cells are at same voltage.
@gregvittore5004
@gregvittore5004 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!! How long would be considered "safe" to wait before charging a batterie when discharged after flying? Let them cool down etc.. Can't wait for part 8! :)
@experiments1899
@experiments1899 5 жыл бұрын
Do you plan to continue this series? I find them very useful and to the point. Thanks!
@mofofpv2309
@mofofpv2309 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, been to scared to plug in the parralel board I got day dot after some of the stories... Clarified! Much appreciated now where the f did i put it
@rotorbob
@rotorbob 5 жыл бұрын
I parallel charge in my fireplace for safety.
@jorouss33
@jorouss33 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@ecookman
@ecookman 5 жыл бұрын
Bucket O sand for me
@DannyGoiri
@DannyGoiri 4 жыл бұрын
hahahaha... wait, that's actually genius! I'm gonna do the same
@evanbourgeois6606
@evanbourgeois6606 4 жыл бұрын
Imma try that😂
@sunsetpark_fpv
@sunsetpark_fpv 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously - the microwave is the shizzle - lots of LiPo sizzle.....
@skizzarz
@skizzarz 5 жыл бұрын
9:43 C is internal resistance right? Charging or discharging past 1 C alters chemistry. Batteries don't like discharging over 1 C but because their short pulse discharges, the chemistry is less altered than charging it at the same rate because the consistency of the RMS charging is too much compared to the show pulse discharging right? It's not that the battery likes discharging higher current any moreso than charging, yeah?
@alexanderdrabenstedt6575
@alexanderdrabenstedt6575 5 жыл бұрын
I would connect the xt60s first, because the balancing current between differently charged batteries can be high and fry the small jst connector.
@cfoust100
@cfoust100 5 жыл бұрын
Your completely right my friend I said the same thing
@FAQUERETERMAX
@FAQUERETERMAX 5 жыл бұрын
There's no way to fry the cables if you follow the method of checking and making sure the difference isn't higher than 0.3v as explained in the video, every time you charge.
@fatal510
@fatal510 5 жыл бұрын
That is partially the point of doing balance connectors first. It's better to have the balance wires fry because YOU fucked up and didn't confirm the packs were within a safe voltages of each other. If you do xt60 side first. Those wires/plugs aren't gonna care that you accidentally plugged a discharged and full battery together. What is gonna end up caring there is the battery that is puffing and getting ready to explode on your workbench.
@licensetodrive9930
@licensetodrive9930 5 жыл бұрын
This is where Joshua Bardwell's V2 parallel chargers stand out; they have polyfuses between the balance sockets, so if you do plug in the balance connectors of an empty pack and a full pack, the fuse(s) will trip and protect everything, then when you unplug the battery(s) the fuse(s) will cool down and reset.
@sketchbmx
@sketchbmx 5 жыл бұрын
What about parallel charging multiple batteries with different mah rating?
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
100% perfectly fine. Just make sure the voltages are the same. And ensure the batteries are in good condition. For example. You can charge a 3300mAh 4S and a 1300mAh 4S In parallel perfectly safely the Voltage keeps the charger in check. (It acts as if there is a pressure on the charger) (smaller battery has more pressure bigger has less). This insured the small battery doesn’t just charge 2200mAh and explode lol. You don’t have to worry about it. It’s all science and physics at that point. Just make sure the voltages are the same and you’ll be perfectly fine. I’ve been doing it for years
@sketchbmx
@sketchbmx 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSteeleFPV that's great news I've been group changing all my 1.3ah, 1.5ah and 2.2ah batteries together for ages thinking I couldn't mix them. You've just saved me hours of changing time!
@latenights145
@latenights145 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say this is what I believe caused a battery fire for me. I had 4 x 1300Mah & 2 x 1800Mah parallel charging. They were all coming from storage voltage 3.80v +-.01v charging to 4.20. I had them charging at 6 amps (not even 1c). These were relatively new quality batteries also. It was definitely my fault for not checking the charger more frequently that day. I figured it would take a while with the low charge rate. Luckily no houses were harmed, lost all those batteries and 1channel of my isdt d2. Now I just run multiple dual chagers, only using parallel in a squeeze.
@hsynneva
@hsynneva 5 жыл бұрын
@@latenights145 Have a isdt d2 myself, and 4s's with different mah. 3x 1300mah and 3x 1550mah. Guess it's just safer to buy another Parallel board and use the 2 channels that the isdt d2 comes with? Any idea why your battery blew?
@EvenTheDogAgrees
@EvenTheDogAgrees 5 жыл бұрын
When you charge a battery pack, you're running current through it to replenish its energy. During this process, its voltage will rise, until we consider the battery charged and disconnect it from the charger. Since you keep all packs in parallel, the voltage over all packs remains the same. That's a basic property of parallel circuits. Therefore, it will rise at the same rate over the entire set. The only thing that can go wrong is that a bunch of those packs have too much resistance, so that the bulk of the current must flow through the other cells: in a parallel circuit, the current seeks the path of least resistance. Depending on how severe this is, it can lead to an overcurrent in some of the packs. If I were charging in parallel, I'd charge at a considerably lower rate just to be on the safe side.
@Flathatter
@Flathatter 5 жыл бұрын
All right Mr. steele Thanks for being one of the major influences that got me into the sick sport of FPV. Great vid on parallel charging.👍🏼
@ryanjones6837
@ryanjones6837 5 жыл бұрын
How much did it cost all together?
@p39483
@p39483 2 жыл бұрын
How do you keep a 0.3 volt difference between cells on different packs from smoking your tiny balance wires? If you had really low internal resistance cells you could put 50 Amps through those wires with two batteries of 0.003 ohms.
@RubberTag
@RubberTag 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I haven't driven a drone yet but I am wondering how we can put a battery that seem so fragile on a expensive drone that flies around in fast speeds? Isn't it very unsafe and high chance for the battery to start a fire and break the drone? Glad for answers!
@minkorrh
@minkorrh Жыл бұрын
Unsolder the right hand beeper which disables both on those checkers. Your batteries will even out if left for about 5 mins but as you say, watch them and don't plug batteries of great voltage difference as the rush current will create heat or pop a fuse on your balance plate. I regularly bulk charge batteries with a .5 V difference with zero issues and regular lifespan.
@carterhanks
@carterhanks 3 жыл бұрын
What charger setup/build do you have in the case on the left (your right) in this video? Awesome info.
@jzj3207
@jzj3207 2 жыл бұрын
This is what i have been looking for. thanks for the series.
@criminalhaze1
@criminalhaze1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos .. charging and battery care for fpv is by far some of the most confusing shit im trying to comprehend for this hobby . I dont have all my equipment yet so havent flown in real life yet but i ordered a hobbymate duo 6 pro today and im slowly getting to understand how I have to charge my batteries. Some things are still confusing me a little but im hoping once I have all the gear I need in hand a lot of whats confusing me will be clearer .
@boactech3076
@boactech3076 5 жыл бұрын
Realy simple explanation about charging 🙂 Great tutorial series. Tnx 👍
@petrk281
@petrk281 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the series, it is very useful for a novice quad owner. Can you please elaborate more on the use of server power supply, how is it connected to the charger or does it involve any tinkering inside the power supply inself? I might be able to get one from the outdated servers at work :)
@dee1251
@dee1251 3 жыл бұрын
sorry noob question, just a bit confused about the 1c charging. If i have 3 850mah 4s batteries in parallel do i set up 3x.8 amp? = 2.4amp output ?
@0815name0815
@0815name0815 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this follow up video. I am currently charging my first Lipo.
@poppad10
@poppad10 5 жыл бұрын
Super-duper. Thanks. If you storage (dis)charge a bunch of 4.2V batteries, do you still use 1C?
@JonathanHii
@JonathanHii 5 жыл бұрын
'storage' from a higher voltage is essentially running the battery through a resistor at a controlled rate. it will be slow compared to charging as a lot of chargers can't handle the heat dissapation (the fan will always be on while discharging) I don't think the c rating changes how fast they discharge.
@Just4FunRC
@Just4FunRC 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Steele for the info. had a few mishaps with charging in earlier days. Lipo bags saved my garage. cant say it enough :) but can how did you connect the server psu? i got a few in my workshop. 1200w EU 230v from the wall socket. did you solder or used a circuit board adapter? ty and a new subber from Mountains of Norway
@RBAERO
@RBAERO 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Question using parallel charger can or work with balance charging?
@КристинаПриходько-м3п
@КристинаПриходько-м3п 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Steele. Thanks for sharing =) Just a small question: do you use some lifehack to keep all batteries at about the same voltage? When I'm flying and watching at my OSD and see some battery voltage left, but after the flight this voltage slightly differs from what I've seen on the screen. Or maybe you know some method to quickly make batteries the same voltage, to then parallel-charge them? Hope haven't confused you. Thanks in advance
@rixxenfpv9449
@rixxenfpv9449 5 жыл бұрын
batteries recover over a short time after discharge so that's why the measured voltage is different than the voltage you see in the screen.
@FlowTfpv
@FlowTfpv 5 жыл бұрын
i use the Mah consumed in the osd. if i dont wanna spend ages settting storage charge, i only run 70% of the battery down during flight. so in 1300 mah i only fly about 1000
@jufertab7130
@jufertab7130 5 жыл бұрын
Charge them single to the highest Value. Like u got 1x3.85 per cell & 1x3.5 per cell i charge both to 3.9 per cell and than together the for the Rest.
@EvenTheDogAgrees
@EvenTheDogAgrees 5 жыл бұрын
Aww, balls! I was hoping I could binge watch the entire series, but you're still making 'em. ;)
@saucyfingerzfpv2990
@saucyfingerzfpv2990 5 жыл бұрын
Can u charge different mah/capacity together. Obviously same cell count. And what’s considered high internal resistance? The only resistance i see is after the balance part of a full charge. Single battery two channel charger.
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Yes It just works out :) same cell count just works regardless of mah
@look2christ777
@look2christ777 3 жыл бұрын
Just got into this hobby, bought a bunch of 2s 450mah batteries for my Tinyhawk Freestyle II, I chopped off the PH 2.0 connector and am put on an XT30. But I don't even have a charger and don't where to even begin. What kind of charger do I need? Is there an all in one type of charger?
@procet87
@procet87 5 жыл бұрын
Hi steele! How about balance charging? What is the difference with "normal" charging?
@desyquintero8451
@desyquintero8451 3 жыл бұрын
Teach you all about batteries, Master Steele will
@parker1ray
@parker1ray 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that I have wondered is on small batteries with a lot of sag, when you fly and the battery sags to below 3 volts but bounces back to above 3.5 when you stop should you worry about the sag and stop flying.
@Umsterdam
@Umsterdam 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot Steele. I was wondering if the amperage was additive when parrelel charging. I've heard as long as they were within .1 volt per cell of each other, ex. .4 volts total on 4 cell batteries. Think I will do like you said and keep it @ .3 .
@GreenEyesFromGondor
@GreenEyesFromGondor 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched multiple videos on parallel charging but haven’t seen if it’s ok to mix Mah ratings. As long as the cell count is the same can you charge say a 1100 and 1500 mah better together?
@Wildest_Wahoo
@Wildest_Wahoo 5 жыл бұрын
Kim Ekberg-Ingber Safe! He answers it below in one of his “hearted” comments.
@GreenEyesFromGondor
@GreenEyesFromGondor 5 жыл бұрын
I totally missed that! Thanks for the reply!
@Prop-A
@Prop-A 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference in charging, and balance charging? Is it safe to charge fx: a 2s, to about 8V and then balance charge to full, or doesn't it make a difference? Thanks for this video
@BenDavis2
@BenDavis2 5 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to part 8. I'm hoping you can stay in the beginner vein. Talk about some of the etiquette that's in the fpv bible. Discuss where to fly (and not). How to interact with others when you arrive at an active site, maybe talk about vTx channels and avoiding overlap. Things to watch out for as you start flying outside? I'm hoping you'll get to the next step up from the Whoop soon, too.
@paulappleton5423
@paulappleton5423 5 жыл бұрын
Another awesome information video, thanks Steele 👍🏼
@beefybeef1326
@beefybeef1326 5 жыл бұрын
Very useful video- thank you. I'm new to rc drones, and have a flying wing. The wing I have is usually powered by a 3s lipo, but I have seen many guys power this particular wing with 3s2p lithium ion 18650 battery packs. My question is, can I charge 3s2p 18650 li ion packs in the same way? Is there a different setting I need to put on the balance charger compared to the lipo?
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. steele, quick question. IF you have a large designated charging space in your workshop and regularly charge batteries in parallel while you are tinkering in the shop, is it a good idea to construct some kind of "battery bunker" to contain a possible Lipo fire? I had a bunch of "fire bricks" left over from building a backyard forge last year and I was thinking of turning them into some kind of enclosure that would protect my shop from the heat generated by a lipo fire reaction.
@pacman7846
@pacman7846 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. What are the signs that a battery is nearing the end of its life? Will it just not output as well?
@dt-paz516
@dt-paz516 5 жыл бұрын
Newbie here who just bought Tinyhawk RTF package w/ 5 extra batts. Any recommended beginner chargers that will put them on a storage voltage when I'm planning to not fly for a bit?
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
ISDT chargers are great but there discharge rate is complete crap. The lowest budget charging setup I can thing of of quality would be an icharger x6. And then you convert one of those 12V HP server power supplies to power it from the wall. Should be all up about 160$ for an extremely capable charging and discharging setup that you can grow into.
@dt-paz516
@dt-paz516 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks dood! I'll chk it out. Really appreciate all the info you give us!
@PenPeng
@PenPeng 5 жыл бұрын
Until now I always only parallel charged my batteries to around 4 Volts and then finished the charge one battery at a time. I thought that parallel charging doesn't balance the cells correctly. You didn't mention doing that, so I don't have to do that and can save a lot of time?
@johnwaggoner349
@johnwaggoner349 5 жыл бұрын
Just getting started . Amazing videos and instruction!!! FPV Bible is crucial!! Thanks for the hard work.
@llickmogan
@llickmogan 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been parallel charging since i stsrted 8 months ago my charger is the d2 isdt i use 2 paralle boards with it one charges my 1500mah 4s n the other i charge my infinity 1300 4s takes about 50 mins to charge 8 batts at 1c
@j.r.7539
@j.r.7539 5 жыл бұрын
I got 2 double port chargers for about $80 each, so I can safely charge any combination of packs. They do not have to provide much power If only using 1C, no need for those high power chargers. But good to know how parallel charging works. Would you recommend it for 1S packs used for whoops?
@sykoxsocial6533
@sykoxsocial6533 5 жыл бұрын
Are you ever coming to P.A? I just started drone flying, you are the best freestyle pilot I've seen should do a Meetup out this way.
@dcsmith5839
@dcsmith5839 5 жыл бұрын
Great info,Thanks. Could I ask what power supply and box size that is on your field charger?
@DronemanfromNepal
@DronemanfromNepal 5 жыл бұрын
What about discharging batteries man ? Do I have to discharge it to 0 after X amount of flight ? Thnx man
@fpvrc9829
@fpvrc9829 5 жыл бұрын
No, don't do that, that will destroy your battery
@drewgotit3569
@drewgotit3569 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the best way to level out the packs other than just landing at the same voltage every time.
@RGMGFitness
@RGMGFitness 5 жыл бұрын
FYI: I just learning FPV (I'm no expert) but something I noticed in watching a few recent videos. At 6:52 in your video you mention charging all 3 of those batteries at 1C (1.1amp x 3 = 3.3amp). However, in a video Joshua Barwell did a while back he showed if you parallel charge and you don't want to go over a 1C rating than you can't take the 1C rate and multiple it by the number of batteries, because he showed on his testing meter some batteries are actually getting 2C while others in parallel may be getting 0.5C. Can see Joshua's video from *Feb 26, 2016* . You've been doing it for 4 yrs so appears to work...just making notes for myself and letting others know your not actually getting a 1C rating as one may think. Feel free to correct if I've misunderstood.......great video though! I'm trying not to make any mistakes which is why I'm watching these videos so intensely. Have seen the damage these LIPOs can do when mishandled......
@OswaldBeef
@OswaldBeef 5 жыл бұрын
RGMG was josh referring to when you are charging in parallel with batteries of same cell count BUT different capacity? Steele is referring to cell count same capacity scenario here....I’m not certain but I think this may be the confusion
@RGMGFitness
@RGMGFitness 5 жыл бұрын
@@OswaldBeef Good catch..I've watched so many videos on LiPo charging I referenced the wrong Joshua Bardwell video. The one I should have referenced is the one *Dated Feb. 26, 2016* (NOT Jan 26, 2016). It's titled "Balance Charging - Can you Parallel Charge". On that video go to 6:47 time-stamp. Here's the exact video (hopefuly KZbin let's me post the link). I also corrected the date in my comments above. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3jLgYutlKeEosU
@RGMGFitness
@RGMGFitness 5 жыл бұрын
@@OswaldBeef Good catch..I've watched so many videos on LiPo charging I referenced the wrong Joshua Bardwell video. The one I should have referenced is the one *Dated Feb. 26, 2016* (NOT Jan 26, 2016). It's titled "Balance Charging - Can you Parallel Charge". On that video go to 6:47 time-stamp. Here's the exact video (hopefuly KZbin let's me post the link). I also corrected the date in my comments above. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3jLgYutlKeEosU
@OswaldBeef
@OswaldBeef 5 жыл бұрын
RGMG I see where he says that and he goes onto say it’s because if any of the cells have a different internet resistance this different C rating charge issue can happen. This is important piece here I agree and I’m about to begin using a parallel board on very large batteries at very large amps so I’m researching all this. After watching this video of Steele’s my only concern was that he always has new batteries and if any cells internal resistance is off he Won’t use it.....I don’t think most of us have this luxury and that many of the batteries I buy new have off resistance cells right from the beginning.....does this mean I basically won’t be able to parallel charge basically ever? Maybe for first weeks of new batteries and that’s it? I’m not sure,, but yea I’m sure josh is referring to this cell resistance value and yes Steele does state that clearly too, but as usual josh has gone slightly deeper here in stating that if you have a different resistance per cell you will also get different Charge ratings happening despite you thinking they all are happening at your C rating you chose to push amps to.
@OswaldBeef
@OswaldBeef 5 жыл бұрын
RGMG I think basically though if a cell or two does have a larger resistance than the others it means that one won’t charge at the full C rating want....subsequently I think that means the other cells....will be charging above the C rating you wanted.....I’m hoping this only would be a problem if you select so high a C rating amps push that the extra C going to the better cells exceeds the wires or batteries ability.....I’m going with the logic of sticking to 0.5 C charge rates when doing paralel charging with varying cell redidtance....if I’ve a few bad cells the extra C going the the good cells won’t be into any extreme value for it to be a concern. If I'm in a rush...and I've checked all my cell resistance are good maybe I'll push to 1C knowing none of them will be getting more than others
@eulenmongol
@eulenmongol 4 жыл бұрын
Hi steele, I have different packs with different cell internal resistance. Between 9mOhm and up to 30mOhm. All of them are "new" out of the store. Have I a go to charge the 6x lipos on the same time or should I stick them togheter wo have the same resistance (+/- 5mOhm)?
@rance2272
@rance2272 5 жыл бұрын
How much flight time would I expect to get out of a 1300 4s 100c battery on a 5in Drone carying a go-pro session. Weird Question but if you have a rough estimate let me know!
@unknownviewer5181
@unknownviewer5181 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! So, If I have a 10.5V 3S & a 10.7V 3S, I can parallel charge them
@andrewallston3139
@andrewallston3139 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta ask since you fly the adrenaline batts, do you always charge at 1c? Those say on them they can do 5c, that’s how I have done it since I picked them up but maybe I am damaging them more then I realize.
@lancelarymore1667
@lancelarymore1667 5 жыл бұрын
Wow your videos are awesome. Thanks for taking the time to show us all these how to videos
@dr.danielkester9313
@dr.danielkester9313 4 жыл бұрын
How do you handle getting the individual packs to the same voltage?
@Dgeigerd
@Dgeigerd 5 жыл бұрын
I got an Turnigy 4x6 (4 Port Charger) for around 45€. You can buy a car adapter or do it with a server PSU. That thing is pretty good for that Price.
@calebrohrer8811
@calebrohrer8811 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to control the rush of balancing batteries when plugging into a balance board? So u could plug them all in without checking voltage (same cell count) and leave it for 15min before charging. Resistors?
@PeterKoperdan
@PeterKoperdan 5 жыл бұрын
So given that 1 battery gives you about 2 minutes of flight time, how many batteries do you guys typically have? 10, 20, 30?
@nicktaylor9525
@nicktaylor9525 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased this power supply and can not figure out how to properly connect it to my 406 duo. Can you give me instructions, I’d really appreciate it.
@yeehaanow
@yeehaanow 5 жыл бұрын
Always use a battery checker like Steele says. Parallel charging can easily mask a bad cell in one battery. I learned that the hard way with an expensive camera rig.
@Kfigs01
@Kfigs01 5 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for single battery chargers? I'm still pretty new and not ready to try parallel charging.
@idenvlogs4955
@idenvlogs4955 5 жыл бұрын
I want to start getting into FPV I all ready have a fpv tiny whoop and it is very fun I have it on my channel
@alexw8271
@alexw8271 5 жыл бұрын
What's about the isdt t8 battgo charger? It has 1000W and 30A... Or the isdt d2 for the 4s for me as a beginner? ... It has 200W and 20A, it's a dual charger
@Dec_K
@Dec_K 7 ай бұрын
The example said 0.3V difference per cell so for a 6s wouldnt that be 1.8V difference allowed battery to battery, but then an example is given of battereries with a 22.5V to 23.5V range which shouldn't be charged together because of voltage difference? Was the rule really 0.3V difference battery to battery. I have also heard a rule of 0.1V per cell difference is ok so 0.6V difference across the range of batteries for 6s. I'm learning so what any thoughts welcome.
@Aasmayaa
@Aasmayaa 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the scariest thing about FPV, Catching fire... bcos am very paranoid i always charge my battery one by one,,, i always spend 1/4 day just to looking into my charger and making sure it wont acting up Thank u for all this knowledge *that duck tho
@vedasticks
@vedasticks 2 жыл бұрын
been paralell charging for years, only issue i had was when i accidentally hooked up an empty battery with 1 almost fully chargeed, it blue out the balance traces o the balance board. always double check each cell are same voltage. i do them at 2c, got several groups of battereis, 3s 2200, 3s , 1000, 4s 1300, 2s 450. 4s 1400. would take all day charging individually even with my duo charger. paralell charging can do it in a couple hours.
@cfoust100
@cfoust100 5 жыл бұрын
Electroniclly it makes no sense to me to plug in the balance lead first. If you have any voltage difference in the batteries it will try to equal out through those tiny balance wires I would rather have it balance out through the xt60 it can hold ALOT more current and voltage as well
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Because it’s easier to fuck up the balance lead than it is the xt60. That’s the whole reason I do that... also. If you noticed. I said. This is how I do it. Not this is how it’s recommended to be done
@cfoust100
@cfoust100 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSteeleFPV but I feel like it's pretty hard to plug a 4s balance lead in anything but a 4s plug due to the slots on the plug you would have to force it pretty hard. I guess I've seen more stupid things done though. So I see what you mean
@fatal510
@fatal510 5 жыл бұрын
That is partially the point of doing balance connectors first. It's better to have the balance wires fry because YOU fucked up and didn't confirm the packs were within a safe voltages of each other. If you do xt60 side first. Those wires/plugs aren't gonna care that you accidentally plugged a discharged and full battery together. What is gonna end up caring there is the battery that is puffing and getting ready to explode on your workbench.
@thedistrictalliance2327
@thedistrictalliance2327 5 жыл бұрын
i guess i can combine some questions from the comments together: 1.) what's the difference between balance charging and charging? doesn't it balance the packs as soon as it recognizes the balance lead? 2.) does EVERY single cell from like 3x 6s pack get balanced out while parallel charging? or just every pack as a whole at the same voltage than the other 2? 3.) if you plug one pack just into the balance lead will it balance the cells without charging it 🤔 the last one was my personal i'm still new..... and waiting for my ICharger 4010 duo 😅
@GroovyVideo2
@GroovyVideo2 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Good video- I made a Lifepo4 battery for my van house power 3 yrs ago - Tons of Bad info out there about Li ion batteries - took a long time to sift threw the bogus noise - think it was lead acid battery companies putting out bad info to scare people into using lead batteries
@danlangston4074
@danlangston4074 5 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on poly fuses on the parallel boards? I’ve heard you can use these to balance out your packs if they are slightly off.
@MayvusCSGO
@MayvusCSGO 5 жыл бұрын
How to charge smaller whoop drone batteries? Like the batteries of the Beta75 pro 1s
@FAQUERETERMAX
@FAQUERETERMAX 4 жыл бұрын
There are very cheap chargers for many of them at once with no need for parallel charging, so who cares
@brettm.1770
@brettm.1770 5 жыл бұрын
If your second battery has a huge voltage difference from 1st which you just plugged in shouldn't you plug the xt60 from the 2nd battery in prior to plugging in the balance connector? Any discharge will run through the xt60 instead of the balance lead. Am I mistaken?
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
If it’s got a huge voltage difference. Enough to have to plug in the xt60 because you’re scared the balance lead can’t deal.. you shouldn’t be plugging hose batteries on parallel 😂
@brettm.1770
@brettm.1770 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSteeleFPV I have been known to do strange things when drinking and charging
@RealKushrage
@RealKushrage 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video tanks :D but you just talked about not to combine like 4s and 3s but what happens when i do this with one 4s 1500mah and a 4s 1000mah?
@timrobinson9192
@timrobinson9192 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this info, priceless. Now I need me a parallel board. Thumbs in the air ! 👍👍👍
@j.finesseflights1403
@j.finesseflights1403 5 жыл бұрын
I take packs with different voltages and place them all together on my balance board and let them set before charging them. Letting them set in conjunction with each other long enough, 10/15min tops, all the cells will balance out to even all cells equally before i charge them! Is this a wrong thing to do?
@paulappleton5423
@paulappleton5423 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Steele I'm looking at buying my first set of Goggles and I wanted to ask what you recommend based on price and specs? Whats a good compromise as I didn't want to do £500 for HDO for a first set, any advice? Thanks
@nickmcbride1208
@nickmcbride1208 5 жыл бұрын
I also have a bad story too lol i accidentally charged a lipo on the nihm setting and it puffed and exploded so always make sure your on lipo woth lipos lol
@MrSteeleFPV
@MrSteeleFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Hahha the stereotypical Lipo fire scenario. I hope you caught it in time
@nickmcbride1208
@nickmcbride1208 5 жыл бұрын
I did but barley and then for fun i took it to my driveway and hit it with a hammer and it exploded and caught on fire lol but i never charge unless in with it just incase
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