ENGINE BALANCE: Inline 6 vs. V6 vs. VR6 vs. Flat / Boxer 6

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@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
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@rafachojnacki3362
@rafachojnacki3362 3 жыл бұрын
Hi You made one mistake with VR engines first this kind of engine made lancia from 1922-1976. VW was only copying ideas from other manufacturers. Enjoy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_V4_engine BTW your videos are very good and I enjoy to watch them
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't say VW invented the engine. I said what were the goals of VW's development of their VR6. I used VW as an example because it's the more modern and more widely recognisable engine. But you're right I should have mentioned Lancia.
@rafachojnacki3362
@rafachojnacki3362 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4aOk my mistake ;) I have idea for next iconic engine, what do You think about busso engines?
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
@@rafachojnacki3362 You wouldn't believe the coincidence 😉 That IS the next in line
@fredericrike5974
@fredericrike5974 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4a Awesomeness! FR
@happii720
@happii720 3 жыл бұрын
4 in the morning, gotta be up at 7, i think now's the time to learn about engine balance.
@Tierce33
@Tierce33 3 жыл бұрын
I feel attacked 🤣
@bengibson3955
@bengibson3955 3 жыл бұрын
I’m hearing you, happii. I get sucked in, big time with the content of these videos. I appreciate the tech focus and it’s stuff I’ve not really considered much in my automotive history. I’m a lover of anything fast and a firm believer that a dedicated guy in a garage achieve amazing things with basic tools. I’ve got an NA EFI Ford Windsor V8, a straight 6 early 90’s Ford SOHC 4.0 (soon to be turbocharged), a Coyote-based 5.0 supercharged V8 and an EJ257-based Subaru. I’ve also had a narrow-angle V6 in the Passat R36 my wife owned for a while. Also had some old-school stuff including Celeveland 351-equipped 1982 Falcon and one of the early ED XR6 manual cars that were homolgated for production class racing at Bathurst (hard to believe back in the early 90s Ford Oz chose to use the 4.0 SOHC I6 for it’s production Falcon race car rather than the 5.slow Windsor). I love variety and appreciate all the strengths and weaknesses of all these engine platforms. These vids present a lot of balance and vibration issues that I never really considered before.
@AngryPostmanStockholm
@AngryPostmanStockholm 3 жыл бұрын
That was funny... man (or woman) i feel you... i recognize the situation... now, just explain that to your boss
@nzt4890
@nzt4890 3 жыл бұрын
It's always a good time to learn about 6 cylinder engines.
@LazeilOfficial
@LazeilOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
4 months later, I’m in the exact same predicament.
@samb7652
@samb7652 10 ай бұрын
Amazing what i am learning at 63yrs old... thanks?
@darylcjackson
@darylcjackson 3 жыл бұрын
Straight 6 engines feel the best to me. Smooth and sound right to my ears. Love em!
@thesollys9540
@thesollys9540 3 жыл бұрын
You need to hear a VR6
@darylcjackson
@darylcjackson 3 жыл бұрын
@Montoya I'm definitely a fan of the flat six. I've owned 5 911s
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 3 жыл бұрын
Rolls-Royce cars used IL6s that were so smooth running that a glass of water set on the valve cover would not have ripples on the surface of the water at any RPM. Jaguar and Maserati used DOHC IL6s for decades. The end of the IL6 came with the growing popularity of transverse mounting for FWD.
@calebsherman9255
@calebsherman9255 3 жыл бұрын
More reliable, more torque, more life.
@External2737
@External2737 3 жыл бұрын
I put 234,000 miles on my first IL6 and it was still running perfectly. (The car was worth $4,500 and needed $6,000 of maintenance, time for a new car). My V-6... I cannot compare (hit by the forged metal certification, failed at 100k miles, but free rebuild).
@isaacrodriguez7570
@isaacrodriguez7570 3 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a vr6, an in line 6 and a v6 I got very excited about this video. Nice work...
@quillanthrasher6846
@quillanthrasher6846 3 жыл бұрын
Bro love all your videos. You brake shit down so simple man, I'm actually using your videos to help teach my 15 year old daughter. She turns 16 in September and I bought her an older car we have to fix up to get running and I think it important someone knows how cars work and your videos do that better than than all else. You speak clearly, slowly and show great animations, it leaves nothing to guess at. Perfect bro thank you
@Buzz-vz2js
@Buzz-vz2js 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job that's raising em right
@jasonh8043
@jasonh8043 3 жыл бұрын
Q.T. I've been involved in the auto svc industry since my teens. (40 years). Having your child (girl or boy) learn about a piece of equipment they will most likely use every day is brilliant. The VAST majority of people today can barely put fuel in a vehicle, much less have an understanding of how it works, and how to properly maintain it. More parents should approach vehicle ownership like you. Much respect. Best to you and yours. Be well. Be safe.
@henmich
@henmich 3 жыл бұрын
*break
@alribee
@alribee 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you. It is really necessary for a person to learn "muscle memory" sort of stuff and this cannot be taught, but perhaps coached. They need to bust their knuckles and break some bolts. Squeeze stuff with vises. Use hammers and fire. (torches and forges and hammers teach you more about metal and strength than about anything.) Just cannot skip hands on stuff to be a good engineer. Heads of engineering are almost always farm kids to begin with. Buy her a broken 911 Porsche for her second car.
@slickhitler
@slickhitler 3 жыл бұрын
That's how ya do it. My son is only 3 but I get him under the hood.
@xeviuus
@xeviuus 3 жыл бұрын
He literally didn't pause one sec nor look up information. Did he really do this whole video from his memory? That alone is incredible. Content was amazing as well. I learned a lot. Subcribing!
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I definitely make pauses as I run out of breath, they're just edited out so you don't see them 😊 Most of this is from my memory, but depending on the topic I often do research to verify or refresh myself on some things.
@wirenutt57
@wirenutt57 3 жыл бұрын
My friends think I am an internal combustion engine engineering genius because of you. Keep making me smarter, D4A!
@Schcarraffone
@Schcarraffone 3 жыл бұрын
my friends think i am an internal.combustion engine STOP. specially when i eat beans and produce output gas
@ronf28
@ronf28 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin is the new "reading". You can learn anything. Lovely
@sled_neckx9972
@sled_neckx9972 3 жыл бұрын
The inline 6 is really something special, let me tell ya. I was driving an old AMC with the 232 inline 6, I couldn't even tell the thing was revving out because it was so smooth. I can always tell when almost any other engine is revving out because they sound more rough and like they are about to rattle themselves to death.
@josephmclennan1229
@josephmclennan1229 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Ford 200 and 300 6
@dustinhaynes2617
@dustinhaynes2617 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmclennan1229 Oh yeah, Ford 300 for the win!!!! Wouldn't trade my 96 f-150 for anything else(except maybe a 4x4 version just like it 😅)
@datthang9385
@datthang9385 3 жыл бұрын
E90 N54 owner here. I loveeee the inline 6❤️
@alribee
@alribee 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that AMC 232 BECAME the Jeep 4.0. Great motor.
@tonysuda9066
@tonysuda9066 3 жыл бұрын
@@datthang9385 is that merc
@FluteMan10000
@FluteMan10000 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video because I have a VW R32 with a VR6 engine, but also because I like D4A's videos!
@henkbaksteen8903
@henkbaksteen8903 3 жыл бұрын
I am a car mechanic for 12 years now most stuff you tell i am formulier with. But still I really love you’re videos! And the way you tell it makes it real nice to watch! Greetings from the Netherlands! 🇳🇱
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 3 жыл бұрын
The straight six has always been my favorite configuration. I think it's the best trade off of characteristics: simplest, requiring the least number of engineering fixes to get it to run smoothly (which allows it to be lighter and simpler), most economical to manufacture, simplest to work on once installed because there's usually plenty of clearance in the engine bay around it, etc. Here in the US V8s were always preferred for power because you can stuff a bigger, higher displacement engine (and thus get more power) in the same engine bay, and as a result, all the straight six engines here have really been smaller-displacement "base model" engines for cars, where the emphasis was on economy. Apart from maybe the Hudson Hornet in the 1950s, there really hasn't been a performance-oriented I6 made in the US -- and even there, I think it was a more a matter of the small Hudson company getting the most performance out of an engine that had originally been meant for economy, and if they'd had the kind of money the Big Three had to play with, they'd have designed and built a V8 as well. I've always admired the I6 performance engines that European car makers made, like Jaguar, Aston-Martin, Ferrari, etc. -- lightweight, aluminum block, DOHC straight sixes designed for performance, but smooth-running and high-revving, and because they're not great, massive lumps of iron, the cars are lighter overall and have better weight distribution, so the car handles better.
@tosehoed123
@tosehoed123 Жыл бұрын
BMW Toyota
@martin-vv9lf
@martin-vv9lf Жыл бұрын
@bytesurfer8651 Lol no. it's easier to design a i6 cylinder than an i4 or v6, no balance gears. It's hard to screw up the design due to its simplicity.
@mikkomaijala366
@mikkomaijala366 Жыл бұрын
How come nobody seems to remembet the Pontiac OHC straigh six from the sixties? Made a good amount of power for it's size, had one of the first belt driven camshafts and also relatively good fuel economy. Perhaps a bit too novel idea to survive in USA at it's time, but definetely an engine to be remembered and appreciated.
@maximborodyuk3773
@maximborodyuk3773 Жыл бұрын
>engine with a length of the chinese wall >have better weight distribution Yep seems about right Did it ever occur to you that i6 is just lame engine config for bad engineers who can't make anything hard? Because simplicity is one and only benefit of the design. i6 is literally the epitomy of the worst weight distribution and space usage possible.
@E34Benzin
@E34Benzin Жыл бұрын
@bytesurfer8651 Jaguar had better inline sixes than BMW. The AJ6 is a masterpiece.
@ThunderBassistJay
@ThunderBassistJay 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! The most balanced engine I ever owned, was a 3 liter inline 6 in a Lexus GS300. I could easily balance a coin on top of the running engine. Its exhaust runner was a masterpiece. Great to see the Alfa Romeo V6 at 4:45, that I also owned long ago. The difference between V and inline is so striking.
@RedfishCarolina
@RedfishCarolina 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fully agree. The old inline 6 my dad had in his mid 80s Ford pickup was slick as glass. I remember how boring it was to rev the engine because my teenager-brain assumed that loud/shaky engines were the good ones. The old truck was slow but she never broke down and towed our heavy old boat magnificently.
@akafede4351
@akafede4351 2 жыл бұрын
The Alfa V6 is the best looking engine I have ever seen, it's pure art. The chrome headers and the overall styling of it (logos, shapes and fonts, the oil cap...), I just love it. I'm a car guy, but I could care less about how an engine looks, but the only one I would have detailed it would be the alfa V6
@pizletwizzler198
@pizletwizzler198 2 жыл бұрын
@@akafede4351 The 12v and 24v "Busso" V6's are truly amazing, especially for a motor released nearly two-decades after it's initial working prototype. While power and aesthetics go to the 24v; pure exhaust "music" belongs to the 2.5L 12v. 👍
@thatguy8300
@thatguy8300 2 жыл бұрын
The toyota jz engine family is something special
@adnanterzimehic
@adnanterzimehic 2 жыл бұрын
Oh please BMW E46 M3
@Splenectomy0
@Splenectomy0 Жыл бұрын
My first two cars were bmws. The e46 325i to be exact. That m54 was such a smooth engine and the power and was delivered beautifully as well. I long to have either another zhp or an M3 one day. Prices have gotten crazy in just a few years.
@scunnerdarkly4929
@scunnerdarkly4929 3 жыл бұрын
Primary and secondary balance videos? Yeah seen those. Skip the recap? No sireee, wouldn’t want to miss a moment of any of it 😁
@martintaper7997
@martintaper7997 3 жыл бұрын
Gravity is not on their side, flat motors.
@olifyne6761
@olifyne6761 3 жыл бұрын
@@martintaper7997 it isnt on inline engine's side either xd
@Shreymani2
@Shreymani2 3 жыл бұрын
same lol
@Sparky-ww5re
@Sparky-ww5re 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of smoothness, Inline 6 cannot be beat. When I was a teenager on my stepfather's farm, his brother had a 1984 Chevy pickup, Inline 6 & 3 on the tree . Loved driving it around the farm land. Dispite the truck suffering from the harsh Michigan winters and holes rusted in the body, that engine and transmission was bulletproof, to say the least. Unfortunately it was parted out around 2008. R.I.P. Chevy half ton 1984-2008.
@henwilvw9376
@henwilvw9376 2 жыл бұрын
It can be beat - by a V12
@Sparky-ww5re
@Sparky-ww5re 2 жыл бұрын
@@henwilvw9376 well if you think about it, a V12 is basically 2 inline sixes together, but because of its massive size and fuel consumption for the amount of power a V12 is only found in the highest trim ultra luxury cars, such as Rolls-Royce, and the Mercedes-Maybach S-650, makes for smoother output than a V8 typical of American vehicles.
@someboi4535
@someboi4535 Жыл бұрын
I think the boxer is surely smoother
@EternallyThankful-os6pz
@EternallyThankful-os6pz 3 жыл бұрын
That was THE best comparison on the different engine configurations I've ever seen on youtube - you did a great job AND it was fun to learn !!
@seanm7349
@seanm7349 2 жыл бұрын
My dad's 92 Corrado SLC VR-6 is still the smoothest running engine I've ever driven. Yes, he still owns it and I still drive it.
@aidenperry7616
@aidenperry7616 3 ай бұрын
My dad just sold his a couple months back. Same year and model. It was flash red and had full cloth interior with a hard top (aka no moon roof). But yeah, I loved the sound of that engine.
@vladpiranha
@vladpiranha 3 жыл бұрын
This was so educational I feel like I should have gotten some kind of credits just for watching it.
@charliebowman785
@charliebowman785 3 жыл бұрын
No matter what, I'm still in love with my 2006 V6 Honda Accord engine: efficient, powerful, smooth running, responsive and very well behaved with around 70,000 miles.
@chogardjr.
@chogardjr. 3 жыл бұрын
My first, and still current, inline 6 was the 4.2-liter Atlas I-6 in my 2005 trailblazer. It's one of the best engines I've ever had and worked on. It still runs like brand new and I'll keep it till it's completely dead. It's got crazy amounts of power and can still haul ass being in a huge heavy chassis.
@niquemarshall
@niquemarshall Жыл бұрын
that’s a really good engine
@dannycork423
@dannycork423 Жыл бұрын
Nivlac57 makes me want one of those
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
Straight-six for the win.
@thezfunk
@thezfunk 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Jeeps lost something when they dropped the 4.0L and went with a V6. I would love to see what modern computer engineering could do on a new 4.0L I6 engine design.
@journeyquest1
@journeyquest1 3 жыл бұрын
If you have the room.
@outlawgamingrp
@outlawgamingrp 3 жыл бұрын
@@journeyquest1 bmw Z4 has the room.
@captain150
@captain150 3 жыл бұрын
@@thezfunk The GM Atlas 4.2L I6 is/was that engine. DOHC with VVT. With direct injection it'd make 350HP easy naturally aspirated. A shame GM cancelled it.
@bigjdm5460
@bigjdm5460 3 жыл бұрын
my IS has the room
@elsullo2
@elsullo2 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! A wonderful, clear explanation of why I drive a straight-six (for thirty years!) Don't let any Yankee complain about your accent: you are perfectly clear and understandable, and an accent only adds to the understanding because listeners are paying extra attention. I subbed and will gradually catch up on your videos...........................elsullo
@mvm932
@mvm932 11 ай бұрын
No "Yankees" are complaining about his accent. Stop trying to create a problem where there isnt one.
@gorylatko
@gorylatko 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned two cars with a VR6 engine. Loved it! Smooth & powerful. Awesome sound, too.
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 3 жыл бұрын
I concur on all three items. The VW GLX Passat was a hoot.
@lukebrennan5780
@lukebrennan5780 3 жыл бұрын
Mine slipped the toothed belt and died. Apparently VERY common. Sigh
@Ogmoney187
@Ogmoney187 3 жыл бұрын
Vr6 uses chains and sprockets
@lukebrennan5780
@lukebrennan5780 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ogmoney187 then it slipped the chain. It was going to cost a fortune to repair. So I ditched VWs after 20+ years. Never going back.
@chronocommander007
@chronocommander007 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukebrennan5780 When the chain guides or the tensioner wear, the chain can skip a tooth. Chain rattle upon start-up is a clear indicator of impending doom. The chain tensioner is made from plastic and us a wear item as it is constant contact with the chain. The chain and tensioner commonly need replacement somewhere between 100 and 150k miles. A belt will not necessarily announce its demise in advance. Choose your poison.
@zzbear
@zzbear 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@d4a
@d4a 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RS20O0
@RS20O0 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. There is nowhere else where I could have learnt all this in under 20 minutes. Perfect, thank you.
@ringgaharja
@ringgaharja Жыл бұрын
It's strange to me that by watching just one video, I now understand why all car brands insist on their particular engine configuration. Thanks dude 👍
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a massive fan of Porsche's flat 6. They consistently defeat V8 and V12 cars on the race track, and have done so for decades. I have a uncle with a 70's 911. I got to ride in when I was a teen. This was very interesting. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.
@hammaadhussain9974
@hammaadhussain9974 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best and most in depth explanation of pros and cons of the six cylinder engines in comparison 2 1 another
@TheDradge
@TheDradge 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a turner who ran a lathe turning huge ship crankshafts. I've always found this stuff fascinating ever since watching him at his machine 50 years ago.
@JPoz-wi3rw
@JPoz-wi3rw 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should teach at the university actually. In 10+ years on youtube i never found anything made with such care, precision and simplicity. Please, keep on going!!
@williamlongbottom5494
@williamlongbottom5494 3 жыл бұрын
You are very detailed and informative without all the technical complexities. I wish my Uni Engineering Lecturers had the ability you present. Very well done. Thankyou
@jdbrown3695
@jdbrown3695 2 жыл бұрын
We have a VW with the VR6 engine and really love the engine. Now I better understand the "why" of it's greatness! Excellent breakdown of the various 6-cylinder configurations! Thanks.
@pepitomov
@pepitomov 3 жыл бұрын
You just keep on surprising me with the high quality infotainment content. Can't wait for the next one in the series 👍
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
Inline Six has always been my favourite, it's always been the smoothest, and most reliable. I don't care that it's hard to fit transversely in an engine bay, because I don't like front wheel drive, rear wheel drive please. The amazing B58 fits fine under the bonnet of my M140i hatchback :-))
@christianbaroud5294
@christianbaroud5294 3 жыл бұрын
Man every time I see your videos I get real excited. Your content is amazing, it shows that you work hard on these videos. Keep up the amazing work !
@tomgrimes8379
@tomgrimes8379 3 жыл бұрын
This presenter answers all questions. He leaves nothing unaddressed. He clearly knows what he's talking about.
@Culumbu
@Culumbu 3 жыл бұрын
The boxer engine is a master piece, even the mechanics who works in this kind of engine must be a master, nice video D4A
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt say You need to be a master to work on it really... Flat, boxer engines are really nice to work on. Everything is accessible compared to a V layout. Its only complicated to manufacture not to work on. It better than I6 overall fpr packaging too somce all it takes is a wide engine bay and you want a wide car for stability and interior room. Subaru made it work really well in Legacies and and Outbacka with EZ30 and EZ36. And these are incredibly reliable too. They made FB and FA series flat fours basing of the design of EZ.
@c.j.rogers2422
@c.j.rogers2422 3 жыл бұрын
Magnificent explanation! I'm almost entirely a truck guy. Ford straight 6 gas and Cummins straight 6 diesel, given a choice, though I own/have owned many others. I don't think it can be reasonably argued that the Ford 300 and Mopar 225 weren't the longest lasting gas truck engines ever, or that the 6bt wasn't the longest lasting diesel truck engine ever. It has occurred to me that, as full-sized PUs have gotten as big (bigger?) as they've ever been, I'd love to see Ford (& the rest) return to a straight 6 configuration gas engine option, while employing the appropriate technological advances, to make what I believe would be the ultimate light working truck engine ever. As far as I know, smaller, sloped hoods were the main reason for their disappearance; I don't think that's a factor any longer, what with the gargantuan size of modern standard pickups. The biggest obstacle might be market acceptance, though that doesn't seem to have hindered the proliferation of V6 & (shudder) straight 4 full size PUs.
@dillonb.9260
@dillonb.9260 3 жыл бұрын
This is my all time favorite series on KZbin not sure why but I love it
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 3 жыл бұрын
Yet ANOTHER invaluable Video!! As I mentioned in your most recent Videos about Motorcycle Twins... I'm an Old Retired Auto Mechanic. This again was interesting and informative, especially the VR6, which I was curious about. The one Six I'm surprised you didn't mention, was the old, 1962-1978 Buick "Odd-Fire" V6. Most of your viewers have probably never heard of it, much less seen one. It still amazes me just how long it lasted! As I'm sure you know, it was a 90 degree V6 with three shared Crank Pins. It was SO unbalanced, that the Ignition Timing actually DIFFERED in 3 of the Cylinders!! 😳😳 This Engine literally and violently shook back and forth while running. This would have made an interesting History lesson, and an example of what NOT to do!
@marekwierzbinka3259
@marekwierzbinka3259 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, one film and I finally knew the difference among sixes. Thx alot!
@Fastidious1970
@Fastidious1970 2 жыл бұрын
You just blew my mind. Engine dynamics and engineering decisions in a single video. Thank you - Ill explain why later ;)
@realvanman1
@realvanman1 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE my Corvair flat six! Only one gear driven cam, NO cheesy belts or even chains. No counterweights on the crank, but seems to survive well staying under 6500 rpm.
@alribee
@alribee 3 жыл бұрын
Though it was only a pushrod motor, there were very many good things in the design of the Corvair. 1966-67 racing program of Yenko Stingers really brought out the best. GM's cringeworthy caving to the Nader book is a landmark of what NOT to do in corporate responsibility. But yes, the Corvair had perfect balance!
@marksandstrom4248
@marksandstrom4248 2 жыл бұрын
isn't it pretty silly to brag about lack of cam belts/chains in an engine which ran a rubber v-belt that had to bend in two planes?
@realvanman1
@realvanman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksandstrom4248 I wouldn't call it bragging- I didn't have a role in designing the engine, after all. More just appreciation for some of it's strong points. Of course pushrods are not as good as having the cam operate the valves directly. The proper V-belts are perfectly suited to flexing torsionally as well as radially, despite it being uncommonly seen. With the proper belts and adjustment, they don't suffer any more failures than any other belt drive . And it's super easy to replace the single accessory drive belt on this engine. Whereas rubber timing belts are not easy to replace, and often their failure comes with a head full of bent valves. Indeed it's not even really reasonable to compare accessory drives and cam drives. It could be argued that chain drives are better than belts, and that would be my preference. But gear drive is far and away superior. Indeed a Detroit Diesel (the real ones, not the four stroke ones) have the best of both worlds- gear driven cams AND gear driven accessories. :)
@markdurl8341
@markdurl8341 3 жыл бұрын
theres a specific kind of inline 6 we use here in australia, it used be made by ford. it was called the barra. 4.0 liters, double overhead cam. what made them so awesome was they could make huge amounts of horsepower with minimal mods. ford even put turbos on some of them, which made enough horsepower to overtake a V8 without too much trouble, matter of fact, the final version of the turbocharged barra put out more than 400hp stock.
@thrustvectoring8120
@thrustvectoring8120 3 жыл бұрын
Boxer 6 is awesome... Until you want to service it... Then it stops being awesome and starts being a pain.
@brian_jake
@brian_jake 3 жыл бұрын
@@777dragonborn boxer 6 Subaru's are EZ series
@KamilWoda
@KamilWoda 3 жыл бұрын
@@brian_jake ER27, EH33 and EZ30/36
@addz17
@addz17 3 жыл бұрын
@@777dragonborn Shame they chew bearings up and spit them out lol I live beside a place that specializes in them, they pull engines out and rebuild them constantly. All the mechanics that work there don't own subaru's lol
@Errol.C-nz
@Errol.C-nz 3 жыл бұрын
not a "boxer" 6 depicted... as he described a flat or horizontally opposed 6... opposed boxer engines share common crank big end journals like v8s etc... causing the piston pair to travel in the same direction... makes for a very stiff crankshaft & allows large journal widths
@brentboswell1294
@brentboswell1294 3 жыл бұрын
Just design the engine bay around a removable cowling-the general aviation aircraft industry
@3_Dogs_In_A_Trench_Coat
@3_Dogs_In_A_Trench_Coat 3 жыл бұрын
That's why my dad's 1986 RAM pick-up truck with the slant six still runs like a champ. Nice video!
@Away907
@Away907 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy with VR6 on my VW Atlas, it's running smooth and sounds good!
@robertvanderlinden2813
@robertvanderlinden2813 6 ай бұрын
10:32, the problems can be fixed by having exhaust mainafolds on both side and an intake mainafold on top (it also fixes valve angle at the intake)
@philB666
@philB666 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanations! So happy to finally get a clear and reliable comparison of 6 cylinder car engines. Very proud to own a MK4 R32 that I personally rebuild! Indeed, knowledge is a must cause misunderstanding all several issues that can happen on those engines could cost you a lot. Balancing, heating, intake patched with soot are principal problems in a VR6 but I get 1:1 from it and I love it!
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 жыл бұрын
You can try seafoam to get rid of carbon - but after the air sensor or in the fuel.
@skunkbucket9408
@skunkbucket9408 3 жыл бұрын
The smoothness of the flat six in my '65 Chevy was amazing. Now I know why. Great video!
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 3 жыл бұрын
A *flat* six?
@nolahahnshouse3389
@nolahahnshouse3389 3 жыл бұрын
Vr6 sounds are amazing!! I love my Corrado's vr6 sound!
@jayb293
@jayb293 3 жыл бұрын
Golf R32 is the ultimate VR6 engine.
@External2737
@External2737 3 жыл бұрын
Simple and well done. I wish back in 1989, when I took kinematics, we had this video. To say the least, as aerospace instead of auto oriented, we didn't dwell on this topic a huge amount of time. Although I recall how naturally smooth the calculations said the inline six was.
@peter.d.song95
@peter.d.song95 3 жыл бұрын
Automotive Enlightenment. You should be a teacher. So much information condensed in 20 minutes and everything makes sense. Not many folks can do that.
@habsom1406
@habsom1406 2 жыл бұрын
The most balanced explanation I've heard. Great video, thanks for creating and uploading. Enjoyable and informative. 👍😎
@eskimoskater9192
@eskimoskater9192 3 жыл бұрын
Loved my VR6. It felt like a magic.
@clayreal
@clayreal 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful control of language and indepth description with precision!
@VasileiouDimitris
@VasileiouDimitris 3 жыл бұрын
Now I can go to college. Awesome job once again man! Thank you very much!
@galuhrichata6148
@galuhrichata6148 3 жыл бұрын
I have already known all those configurations, but I have never seen a better explanation and comparison of each complexity. Your video is amazing.
@sumilidero
@sumilidero 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, this man knows the shit! Me as an engineer myself (electrical tho) love to watch and listen professionals who know the science behind their subject!
@Xingularity
@Xingularity 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best comparison I have seen of the different 6 engines.
@terjejohnsen3651
@terjejohnsen3651 3 жыл бұрын
I allways look forward to this videos as I love to learn more about engines .thanks again for a great video.
@amezcuaist
@amezcuaist 3 жыл бұрын
Complements on your clear speaking voice. Almost as precise as South African. What a mountain of knowledge you have plugged into my tiny brainbox . Superb information just in time before engines are eliminated by global warming .
@JurisKankalis
@JurisKankalis 3 жыл бұрын
Although the thumbnail suggests knowledge we all basically acquire with mother's milk, this guy always manages to come up with a new aspect or an informative way to portray. Well done!
@jordanbabcock9349
@jordanbabcock9349 3 жыл бұрын
What.the.fhack.
@arkan7rb
@arkan7rb 3 жыл бұрын
best videos ever for understanding mechanics thank you very much in all languages of the world greetings from Yemen
@bryankirk3567
@bryankirk3567 3 жыл бұрын
If I had a lecturer this good when I was a sprog, I'd have a doctorate! Cheers!
@thomaswomack3888
@thomaswomack3888 3 жыл бұрын
i love this guy....good honest explanation in the great style of a russian enthusiast..
@PaulDebaecker
@PaulDebaecker 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video again! Clear, easy to understand without oversimplificating!
@snotwurfit
@snotwurfit 3 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video and clear explanation for someone like me who knows very little about engines. Thank you
@PATRIK67KALLBACK
@PATRIK67KALLBACK 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Finally I got the analysis of the VR6 engine!
@johnwoolfrey5093
@johnwoolfrey5093 Жыл бұрын
I cannot express how much this YT channel "turns my crank". Great video! Thank you. /John
@valentinuiliqnow6198
@valentinuiliqnow6198 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the VR6
@michaelsalter2473
@michaelsalter2473 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, I’ve been home mechanic for 45 years but great to know how much there is to learn in life. I’ve always loved 6 cylinder engines, only one I haven’t had is the VR6. My current 4.0 Cayman is a magnificent engine and I loved a recent M2 for power delivery but somehow, despite modest power, a 12 valve 3 litre Busso engine in a 164 is the one that sits most affectionately in my memory. I even managed to do the belts on it, something I never tried with a later 24 valve busso (more power but not the magic of the 12v somehow). After only 3k miles though I have a suspicion the Porsche will be ‘the one’.
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you enjoyed the vid despite the massive experience. I also have a new video on the Busso in case you haven't seen it already 😊
@michaelsalter2473
@michaelsalter2473 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4a y will watch. There is so,etching magical about that engine . I’m retiring soon and there is something in the back of my mind telling me to build a Hawk Stratos just so I can put a Busso in it. Nearly bought an SZ 20 years ago.
@TheRiceguy78
@TheRiceguy78 3 жыл бұрын
its crazy how with engine aides the modern day v6's are so balanced and smooth nowadays
@electric7487
@electric7487 3 жыл бұрын
One other benefit of the 60° V6 that he didn't mention is that, when combined with -60° flying crankpins, it has perfect primary balance when crank weights are used. It does not need balance shafts, since for each pair of cylinders the vertical and horizontal imbalances are roughly the same. With the 90° V angle, non-split crankpins result in uneven 90° and 150° firing intervals, but it does have perfect primary balance with crank weights. To make it even-firing, the easiest way to do so is to split the crankpins by -30° so that each pair of cylinders hits TDC 120° apart. However, by doing this you lose the perfect primary balance as now the imbalances for each pair of cylinders has a greater horizontal component than vertical component. Here, the crank weights "average out" the imbalances, and by doing so that they undercompensate the horizontal vibrations and overcompensate the vertical vibrations. The crank weights are sized such that the residual vibration from the over- and under-compensation is roughly circular, which means only one balance shaft is needed. The balance shaft adds to and subtracts from the crank weights alternately so that the vertical and horizontal vibrations are properly cancelled out.
@2seep
@2seep Жыл бұрын
I love my vr30, it’s such an amazing twin turbo v6 with amazing tuning potential. It sounds amazing with a borla exhuast, and although it does vibrate a bit at 7k rpm, it’s very slightly and makes me feel better driving the car.
@Marlonbc90
@Marlonbc90 3 жыл бұрын
When I think V6 I think Busso, I was hoping you used it as an example and there it was at 4:46 Pretty sweet
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 3 жыл бұрын
I once was given the use of an old Dodge van with the 225 slant-6 Chrysler engine for a few days by its owner who went away on vacation. As a favor, I gave it a nice thorough tune up and I was amazed by how smoothly that engine ran. At idle it would be very easy to forget that the engine was running. My car had a Ford 2 liter inline engine that I kept meticulously tuned and adjusted and while it ran extremely well and was also very smooth it couldn't match that Chrysler slant-6 for smoothness.
@chasbader
@chasbader Жыл бұрын
Porsche 917 boxer 12 took the power off in the middle of the engine with a large gear turning a smaller gear on a countershaft which acted as a torsion bar. The gearing down increased the rotational speed of the countershaft and commensurately reduced the torque on the countershaft so it could be lighter. This is discussed in the book Racing Porsches with a diagram showing the different modes of torsional vibration in a boxer 12. Porsche innovated this when under high power loads the crankshaft actually twisted and messed up the valve timing as the camshafts had no twist. Can you imagine the discussions between the engineers when the problem first showed up? Thanks for the awesome video sir.
@davosworks
@davosworks 3 жыл бұрын
At last something about VR6 :P nice
@thelastmanchannel4823
@thelastmanchannel4823 3 жыл бұрын
You break this down for the average viewer very nicely.
@e3k701
@e3k701 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one 😊
@salvyballacc
@salvyballacc 2 жыл бұрын
Iv learned more in this video than i have in my entire life. You explain things so effortlessly. You have me thinking i can make my own engine one day hahaha That you
@danmanmcleod
@danmanmcleod 3 жыл бұрын
I once read an engineering book written in the 60's that covered all this, and it said V6s will never become common. it pointed out all of the flaws in GMC's "Thriftmaster" V6 as examples.
@jazldazl9193
@jazldazl9193 3 жыл бұрын
never say never
@outlawgamingrp
@outlawgamingrp 3 жыл бұрын
Well the engineers never forsaw FWD cars. Had vehicles mainly remained RWD, they would probably have been right.
@VTCharley13
@VTCharley13 2 жыл бұрын
If only that had been the case 🙄
@2seep
@2seep Жыл бұрын
@@outlawgamingrpnot really the reason. The v6 can fit in less space then the inline.
@domspider1
@domspider1 2 жыл бұрын
You are the only person that can explain the advantages and disadvantage of a V vs A engine, culd you make a video about it?
@antikristuseke
@antikristuseke 3 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of how much I miss the EZ30 that was in my first car, I really should get a 4th gen Legacy as a project. Thank you for the great content.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 2 жыл бұрын
What happened that you got rid of it? I plan on getting myself Legacy Spec B with EZ30. Subaru sold them with manuals here, tho they're quite hard to come by especially the facelifts
@antikristuseke
@antikristuseke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kacpa2 got the opportunity to buy an Alfa Romeo Giulia and a friend needed a car so sold him the Legacy. He is still driving it around.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 2 жыл бұрын
@@antikristuseke Nice. What did you think of Leggy overall? And how it compares to Giulia?
@antikristuseke
@antikristuseke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kacpa2 the engine is superb, flat torque curve and super linear delivery, revs quickly. It understeers on the limit, but it doesn't come on suddenly. Only issue I had with it was not being able to get fully comfortable, I'm 188cm tall with long hands so my seating position was a little compromised, but not badly so. The giulia is a much newer car, lighter, rear wheel drive, more advanced suspension etc. Not really a fair comparison, but ideally I'd have both cars, alfa as the daily and legacy as a toy. That flat 6 is something I miss.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 2 жыл бұрын
​@@antikristuseke Well i look for it to be both a daily and a toy since i miss my 1st sportier car, and having Subaru now got me into them, tho its XV so its on very high and soft suspension so handling wise its not that entertaining but still grippy. Got it to sound nice with Borla i shipped from USA, but it's still a bit short of what i want, and a wagon H6 six with 6mt sounds like a dream tbh, and i only hear good things about it, closest comparisons like some Volvos are not really sporty at all and would probably annoy the hell out of me with extreme understeer. I dont really want a BMW either because i find them incredibly cramped and with interiors that annoy me with how things are laid out(someone in family has X3 i get to drive often and i drove late 2000s 5-series once and it was even more cramped legroom wise and with very odd feeling shifter) I got more and more deadset on Leggy since it would fit everything i want from a car in a compact package. I'm trying to get the facelift since it got many upgrades like better tripcomputer in the gauge cluster and telescoping steering wheel which might help with the seating position if needed, but they are incredibly rare as 5speed auto was added so most of Spec B's onwards were automatic and since i want a wagon there are maybe 150 of facelift models made, 500-ish prefacelift in LHD configuration, so it's a bit rare to come by one for sale.
@andreasguntoro5399
@andreasguntoro5399 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for demystifying a lot of misconceptions in my head. Now I know what I have to look for in my next vehicle based on what I need (a simple smooth engine with a bit more HP and TQ for little towing and off-roading ).
@AudiophileTubes
@AudiophileTubes 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, educational video! The VR6 is amazing, considering it's size!
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 3 жыл бұрын
Heard the VR5 was developed from it. Is VW still making VR5s?
@ronf28
@ronf28 2 жыл бұрын
End of a beautiful era.... We'll miss these engines in 10 years
@nursingzombie6479
@nursingzombie6479 3 жыл бұрын
Fun drinking game: everytime he says, “which means” take a shot. Keep up the great vids! Excellent info
@kcsnow9447
@kcsnow9447 3 жыл бұрын
@manemebasat Well, as leaders of the free world, we sometimes feel the need to justify it. Of course, that will end next week, so it'll be "party hardy" after that.
@kcsnow9447
@kcsnow9447 3 жыл бұрын
@manemebasat And, FWIW, and even though you...the rest of the world doesn't need stupid games...The German live feed at the ADAC Nurburgring 24 hrs (just concluded) DID have a drinking game of their own going on. Just because your "rest of the world" doesn't need them doesn't mean they don't still like them. And just because our part of the world (US) has fun with them doesn't mean we need them. Go..........get.......stuffed. See? I had fun with that game and it only required one move. Game over.
@kcsnow9447
@kcsnow9447 3 жыл бұрын
@manemebasat we did what?
@kcsnow9447
@kcsnow9447 3 жыл бұрын
@manemebasat You make a good point that has always bothered me with regard to buying a beer, however, and in actual practice, I think that "prohibition" is more lax. As to the 25% (where did you get that number?) many of the world's "non-incarcerated" were simply put to death [China...the Arab world] Consider that when you so casually run your numbers.
@kcsnow9447
@kcsnow9447 3 жыл бұрын
@manemebasat And, once again, run your percentages vs. China and the Arab world. Do they not have (and for what reason would they not) have crime such as does the EU, AUS, NZ, JPN and the rest? And do they have prisons to reflect those percentages? No. They have death. Now, if you want to debate the advantages vs. disadvantages of incarceration vs. death...I will point out that one of the two does offer a chance for redemption. The other does not. It's also true that, and despite your accusations, the US does afford the accused the best chance to escape said incarceration. I challenge you to prove otherwise.
@climbatize
@climbatize Жыл бұрын
This is "Engine configurations for dummies" and I like it.. a lot. And I also now understand why I loved my 530d so much (rip), and now my 330d.
@Stevieboy130664
@Stevieboy130664 3 жыл бұрын
The VR style engine and the V6 were first developed (successfully) by the same company.
@VR6ix
@VR6ix 3 жыл бұрын
Lancia
@caiobortoletto4363
@caiobortoletto4363 Жыл бұрын
it bothers me that you dont have more subs. your accent alone is worthy of more subs
@SomeOne-mx2ro
@SomeOne-mx2ro 3 жыл бұрын
I never get bored on this
@HOLYLIFEIFY
@HOLYLIFEIFY 3 жыл бұрын
The pistons in the built car engine to me every since I was in auto shop during my early high school years (do to return to auto shop here after my college graduation of my infinite eight), has been "keep it right here that I can travel to right there". Terrill TC!
@skiptastic1000
@skiptastic1000 3 жыл бұрын
wonderfully informative, thank you for creating this.
@misterkaye7796
@misterkaye7796 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, good explanations. I didn't see anyone else comment on cylinder wear in Horiz-Opposed, Flat & Boxer engines . What is not obvious is the uneven cylinder wear because of the layout. It is the worst design in this respect. Then that comes into the difficulty in servicing it. We shouldn't forget the complexity of the design and gasket leaks, again serviceability. The only other common engine with high uneven cylinder wear is Honda's VCM V6, with the design to always shut down the same cylinders. They did finally address this, but not in a very timely manner. Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it.
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I’m just a nerd. This video is way more interesting to me than some 1000 horsepower LS swap.
@simplyamazing880
@simplyamazing880 3 жыл бұрын
I love simple stuff.
@markdurl8341
@markdurl8341 3 жыл бұрын
LS swaps are boring. you want interesting, check out the australian barra engine.
@billallen4793
@billallen4793 3 жыл бұрын
@@markdurl8341 I've been a inline 6 fan my whole life, and I wish ford would have given us the barra platform. Especially when they killed the 300ci6....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
@ellisjackson3355
@ellisjackson3355 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the LS is a very good engine. But it is also played out. People have been swapping those forever and it was cool to see 15 years ago
@billallen4793
@billallen4793 3 жыл бұрын
@@ellisjackson3355 it's hard to beat the LS platform $ per H.P....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
@philhand5830
@philhand5830 3 жыл бұрын
Saw an inline 5 once. Had a '72 Subaru with a flat 4 and a 3 speed manual. Best simple car I ever owned......the very best...
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 3 жыл бұрын
I5s were common in Volvo cars of the 90s and early 2000s, basically because they were smoother than a I4 while still being short enough to fit into a transverse layout. My younger brother drives one. Great engines, though in a sign of how far things have come between 1997 and 2014 my car's I4 diesel produces less noise and vibration in the cabin (albeit with a much less appealing exhaust note).
@peterbustin2683
@peterbustin2683 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff ! I always wondered about the VR6 - now I know !
@AwoudeX
@AwoudeX 3 жыл бұрын
Before i owned my own car, i had to tag along with others, co-workers, family etc. and over the course of years i've been sleepy alot during travels. Not because of boredom or insomnia or whatever, but the way the engine vibrates the car. The first time in a car with boxer engine was a revelation to me. I was alert, awake and not dozing off at all. Now that i own a car, i've got a sleepy V6 1.6 liter engine, but because i'm constantly fully engaged with driving, i'm not really dozing off. It had me worried at first though. Maybe when i get geriatric, i'll reconsider a boxer, for now a regular V6 and the relative cheap maintenance is it for me.
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