Triumph T-Plane Engine Explained and Compared with Yamaha's CP3 Crossplane Inline 3 engine

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@d4a
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@nobadhabits
@nobadhabits Жыл бұрын
I recommend a Polaris parallel twin found in sportsman vs cam am v twin found in outlander
@petehealy9819
@petehealy9819 Жыл бұрын
As a guy who's ridden for >50yrs and has only the most basic understanding of engineering, I absolutely love this channel, and am so glad I discovered it recently. Brilliantly clear and fascinating explanations, matched by equally brilliant graphics. Keep up the amazingly great work, and thank you!
@RT22-pb2pp
@RT22-pb2pp Жыл бұрын
Ridden for 40 pus yrs does not make me an engineer LOL I got basic understanding of bikes and the physics of some bike things but riding gives good riding experience, I know a few things but not an engineer by any definition. 4 yrs of engineering would be better than a ton of riding experience but 4 yrs of engineering does not replace riding experience as far as riding goes. I do a lot of things and did and until I took a beginners racing class at a track by racers I did things and did not even understand why or how it worked it just did, but knowledge is definitely good. understanding how things like counter steering works and trail braking, and manual speed shifting works is cool. Not to mention how to load and unload suspension for corners and how to load tires. I was told just do not surprise the tire before making a direction or braking change and it worked but until race school did not fully understand the physics of it. Still not a physicist but basic grasp of what bike is doing in transitions, best rule is this smooth is fast. jerky motions slow you.
@wagnerw8364
@wagnerw8364 7 ай бұрын
Great animations! It´s becoming difficult to see such quality in YT nowadays!
@romulusxyz6722
@romulusxyz6722 Жыл бұрын
I'm a new powersports mechanic, 7 months into it now. This channel teaches me so much about the concepts and functions of engines, etc. I can repair and rebuild all day, but learning and understanding the theory and concepts of operation helps so damned much. Thank you for doing what ya do man!
@RedRideRVT1R
@RedRideRVT1R Жыл бұрын
❄️🍻❄️ 🦾🦿💎🏁🌬️🦅🏎️🏍️💨🌴⛈️🌪️🌁
@RafaelLima-ce1rh
@RafaelLima-ce1rh 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a teacher like this I would definitely go for engineering school.
@zach446
@zach446 2 жыл бұрын
yeah if it didn't cost so much and it got you a great job right away sure
@Godzillajr-bi2xi
@Godzillajr-bi2xi 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@bingeciren
@bingeciren 2 жыл бұрын
I went to an engineering school and still didn't have a teacher like him.
@briland7166
@briland7166 2 жыл бұрын
You do, thats him and he teaches you over youtube.
@motorpartsgururestorationc9116
@motorpartsgururestorationc9116 2 жыл бұрын
@@zach446 engineers are needed and in short supply. Right out of school you are almost guaranteed to get a job with a starting salary of 60k plus. 5 years in you should be making 100k. Engineering school cost only slightly more than any other bachelor's degree.
@The3DHead
@The3DHead 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the knowledge you share. I'm a ship engineer and you helped me understand my profession even better than the best teacher I had till now. Best of wishes.
@matthewjones6276
@matthewjones6276 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Daytona 675 owner here, although it sounds like the tripple would be a not so smooth engine it actually is one of the smoothest bikes I’ve ridden, vibrates a lot less than a few of my mates bikes. Sounds nicer stock than any other bike and honestly the power delivery after 4k makes it feel like it’s got a vtech engine in it, highly recommend any bikers to have a go on a triumph because the engine is amazing and their bikes amazing handling, 10/10 hit the spot for what I wanted in a sports bike
@langdons2848
@langdons2848 Жыл бұрын
I've ridden Daytona 955is for over ten years now and I agree entirely. Most of my riding is highways long distance and the triple is just so comfortable to ride with heaps of torque low down, but great power as it revs out.
@bboness713
@bboness713 Жыл бұрын
The 675 Daytona is a dream. Amazing handling and sounding too
@ZabDevin
@ZabDevin 6 ай бұрын
I concur.
@vaalomusic
@vaalomusic 3 ай бұрын
Street triple is the greatest street bike ever in my opinion. Hit the sweet spot in every way.
@Chris71920
@Chris71920 Ай бұрын
I've got '23 765 RS and it is the peachiest engine! The low down grunt, the power right up to redline and the noise, oh the noise of the induction is intoxicating!!
@1benfake
@1benfake 2 жыл бұрын
Excellently explained. I've got the T-plane engine on my Tiger 900 and it really does have a split personality. Above about 4500 rpm it acts like a four, under that it's more like a V-twin, and sounds great at any revs.
@johnhenke6475
@johnhenke6475 Жыл бұрын
In the later 60's Honda wanted to build a big bike. They sent scouts to America to feel out the potential market. They got back to Japan and said, "Americans want a bike that sounds good". The Honda 750 four was born.
@carlmayer691
@carlmayer691 Жыл бұрын
It's about the SOUND.. even my old '05 Daytona 955i airbox is designed so the rider can hear the throttle bodies induction noise . The airbox snorkels are turned backwards towards the rider.. Engine, exhaust sounds are a huge part of the experience .. Those who have ridden my Daytona even say wow, what a sound .. very clever marketing tool.. visceral experience ..not sure the T-plane has any performance advantage ...this was done waay back in 2014 with Smiths Racing IOMTT Daytona 675 .. changed the firing order. Gary Johnson won on the T-Plane 675 that year.. but that was that. Sure sounded great. Always a give & take .. I think it's the exhaust note which makes you 'feel' like it performs differently..
@to87fin65
@to87fin65 Жыл бұрын
@@carlmayer691 Only tiger haves t-plane other models has crossplane cranks. So why this video maker is like talking that all newer Triumph's haves t-plane crank. I have too -05 Daytona but it's converted to speed triple.
@puredrive1172
@puredrive1172 Ай бұрын
T plane engine is shit compared to cp3, you haver better low end torque but it sounds like a 2 cil all the way and it dies on high revs, its like 9 out of 10 owners of old 800 that upgraded to 900 preffers 800's engine
@michaeldreves757
@michaeldreves757 19 күн бұрын
🫶❤️👍👍👍👍👋👋🤌☺️
@benfennell6842
@benfennell6842 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that Laverta Jota is stunning
@apacherider7110
@apacherider7110 Жыл бұрын
I'm an engineer, and you gave me some insight into the finer details of a 3 cylinder engineer, plus a Triumph fan & rider.. 👍
@fmpinto
@fmpinto Жыл бұрын
I have a Tiger 900 and when I knew my motorcycle has such a strange engine configuration I thought this was stupid. Now I do not think it is stupid anymore. Thank you. Keep beeing probably the best channel on mechanical engineering ever.
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 4 ай бұрын
Me too. The vibrations have a sense of character, but also frustrating. The 2025 model has better vibration control on the handlebars and seat. The heat from the radiator fans is bad in summer, I put a heat shield over them.
@mrchaoslordlol
@mrchaoslordlol 3 ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 as a 2024 tiger owner. Could you give me a product what ur using as heatshield? :)
@chiefdenis
@chiefdenis 2 жыл бұрын
Best teacher on youtube, teaching me about things i didn't even think i needed to know
@bikezone8099
@bikezone8099 2 жыл бұрын
My Daytona 675r might have some fuelling issues atm but the sound when she's right is just the most beautiful thing. Knowing a bit more about it from this makes it even more special. Nothing like a triumph triple
@macthemec
@macthemec 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a nice bike, I would have gotten one if the riding position wasn’t so agressive
@schmoosmith
@schmoosmith Жыл бұрын
Totally with you there! I've got a 2009 Street Triple and I love the engine note. When I see other triple's I know it before I even see it just by the sound.
@jeantours9641
@jeantours9641 2 жыл бұрын
your teaching ability deserves MONEY...
@jakebasa1517
@jakebasa1517 2 жыл бұрын
I am no way major in engineering and all other stuff but this guy makes it easier for a dummy like me to even understand a fraction of it. Now this is what you call born to be a teacher! PLEASE KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING!!!
@RedRideRVT1R
@RedRideRVT1R Жыл бұрын
intake through palatable pieces
@MrBuyerman
@MrBuyerman Жыл бұрын
I own a Triumph, I've always liked the different engine sound and the low down grip. I just didn't know why it was happening. My day is better for knowing. Thank you. 😊
@catfunt5583
@catfunt5583 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I was literally looking everywhere for a in-depth video on the Inline 3, your timing is perfect
@soloxcan
@soloxcan 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this is becoming the engine balance channel
@WDGFE
@WDGFE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation. As an owner of both a Tiger 1200 and Street Triple, I was not really understanding the difference between these two engines, particularly where off-road traction is concerned. Now I see how the T-plane assists traction, and also it’s distinctive sound.
@micsub
@micsub Ай бұрын
Hi amazing video like always. I'm nothing of an engineer, I'm a Seaman at Bridge, but absolutely passionate about engines and following this channel for years ! I have GR-Yaris inline 3 cylinder 1.6 liter engine, and have a Triumph Sprint inline 3 cylinder 955i. Now I understand why they both sound so different no matter which exhaust ! Thanks again for this video !.
@gerryjamesedwards1227
@gerryjamesedwards1227 2 жыл бұрын
Now I know why the Triumph triple sounds like it does. I do love it. Excellent work, as always.
@Murasenki
@Murasenki Ай бұрын
Tiger 900 2024 owner here! I love the versatility of the engine, torque at low-end and all the power to make overtakes, even with a passenger and luggage. I love this engine. If you put it in sport the sound changes and it's glorious close to the redline! Does it vibrate? Yes and no, less than a 2cly more than a "normal" 3cly. Still you can do 8hs rides and have no problems.
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you remembered the Early Laverda Jota Engine . Idea was good . Vibes like a 350 single was their idea.
@kman2220
@kman2220 Жыл бұрын
Your animations and explanations are better than anything we can get from the manufacturers by a mile! It's funny how the trend in automobiles seems to be the opposite... Barely can find a good picture of their motors, let alone mechanical details, images, and thorough explanations. We have to rely on third parties for that... And in that realm your videos are superior... Please keep creating them!
@helidof9958
@helidof9958 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, came to learn about the difference between I3 engines and learned a concept about motorcycle traction I have never heard anyone explain before. Great video!
@parsonscarlson7984
@parsonscarlson7984 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the differences between the design of these triples. Surprised our host didn't include a pic of the Triumph Trident from the 70s. Must point out a small mistake in his commentary, however, that occurs around 9:03. In talking about imbalances he says, "Secondary balances become very noticeable and don't require a balancing shaft." What he meant is negligible, not noticeable. As always, great presentation, information, and graphics.
@ScholtenAndre
@ScholtenAndre 2 жыл бұрын
Those sound examples, magnificent, can hear the rithm of my own Triumph.
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 Жыл бұрын
Most comprehensive explanation ever!
@JasonLuther1
@JasonLuther1 Жыл бұрын
Perfect analogy used to describe a rocking couple. You're a great teacher
@johndeere1951a
@johndeere1951a 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation 👍👍 I love my 2017 3-cylinder 815cc John Deere Gator🇺🇲. I road raced a 1975 Laverda 1000-3🇮🇹 way back when. ✌️ Cheers from New Hampshire.
@paultannahill5043
@paultannahill5043 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a natural. Well done!
@YAMR1M
@YAMR1M 2 жыл бұрын
The Petronas FP1 did use a 180 degree flat plane crank in some of their race bikes during their final season in WSBK. It was never homologated and yes it would have sounded different to the 120 degree but they were desperate for power during that last season and the other teams knew it would never be a title contender due to being a smaller capacity engine compared to the 1000cc 4 cylinder bikes being used after the change from 750cc 4 cylinder to 1000cc 4 cylinder. The petronas FP1 was never going to be a bike that got sold even though rumours that the full homologation numbers were not met, Petronas did actually build the number of bikes needed to homologate them for racing even though they never passed homologation for the road at the time. Riccardo engineering did run a number of them to try to homologate them but due to over heating of the rear facing cylinder heads and the issues the race bikes had with cylinders becoming oval due to massive heat behind the cylinders and colder air on the forward facing intake side Petronas decided it was too much of a risk for them to sell due to the liability claims they could face.. But they did use flat plane cranks in a number of bikes. How do I know?? I worked for the company that made them..
@carlmayer691
@carlmayer691 Жыл бұрын
Copy and paste right off the www verbatim ...LOL Smiths tried that in 2014 IOMT Johnson's Daytona 675 ..he won...but that was a one-off engine which really had no performance advantage except for the sound LOL
@YAMR1M
@YAMR1M Жыл бұрын
@@carlmayer691 co[y and paste off WWW? The 180 degree flat plane crank has not been mentioned on the internet and was never spoken about even though other teams will have known from the sound. But the 180 degree crank was quite a bit lighter than the 120 degree cranks. I know because I worked at the company that made them. The 120 degree cranks would allow the bike to rev to about 13,000 rpm but in the end the lighter 180 degree crank engines were supposedly going to 15,000rpm and as they plugged a fresh engine in after every race the extra loads on the pistons and rods was a risk they were willing to take. So between race one and race two later that same day the engine would have been swapped. The FP1 had bigger issues than the crank, it was only 900cc not the 1000cc like the others and the reversed head was distorting the cylinders as the back of the engine was so hot with no air supply to remove the heat and the colder intake at the front would have a disparity from front to back that was enough to distort the engine during racing conditions. The flames when going into corners was them dumping extra fuel (and some oil getting past the rings) trying to cool the engine every chance they had.
@kjelleriksson2793
@kjelleriksson2793 Жыл бұрын
You're right.
@lancethrustworthy
@lancethrustworthy 2 жыл бұрын
You get extra points for caring about the clarity of your presentation.
@MadChalet
@MadChalet 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, that gave my brain workout after my morning run gave me a body workout. So much information compressed into so little time. Kudos!
@leefrayne4224
@leefrayne4224 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation of the balance challenges and the pros and cons with the different configurations. Regarding the Laverda triple, I have to point out that all the production 3 cylinder (3C) Laverdas had the 180 engine from the very early ´70s up until the 120 crank made it's appearance at around 1982. The Jota was simply one of the numerous models produced. The reason for going to 120 was not vibration but engine noise for the regulators. A 180 motor in the rubber mountings of the 120 frame is a vibration fix. The character of the 180s has ensured that there are many who have never strayed, they are a unique experience and that is a major factor for a great many motorcyclists.
@AFFMotorsport
@AFFMotorsport 2 жыл бұрын
Loved my Trumpy 1050cc 3 cylinders engines. Add a race pipe and tune and those were awesome sounding flame throwers :)
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe 2 жыл бұрын
yamaha CP3 is a gem
@arunglaksmana3694
@arunglaksmana3694 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow so far the best explanation of motorcycle engineering! I used to be confused about why Yamaha called it CP3 while it sounds too "smooth" for crossplane unlike CP4 that sounds more deep and rumbly, and the other side Triumph Tiger 900 sounds deep and rumbly like CP4 despite it has 3 cylinders only, but now I understand all thank you for your explanation, we need more teachers like you because the explanation is easy to understand ❤
@BestMotorWerks
@BestMotorWerks 2 жыл бұрын
Triumph does this for ages and does it perfect. Great bikes with great felling and power on the road..
@TheMissing62
@TheMissing62 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man! I consider myself as a very capable technician, but I feel that I'm running to follow you. You speak really fast, and the figures in the background distract me, and I paused the video often in order to understand. It's not a complaint, just describing a fact; your videos are amazing, and I don't want to lose even a single one. Thanks, Greetings from Argentina.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 жыл бұрын
Bah, don't feel bad, it happens to me too. But it's worse if your attention span it's very short like mine and get easily distracted.
@TheMissing62
@TheMissing62 2 жыл бұрын
@@GIGABACHI I'm sorry, I got distracted... what were we talking about...? Is my ADS.
@andoletube
@andoletube 2 жыл бұрын
You can slow down the playback speed. Try 80-90% and see how you go.
@TheMissing62
@TheMissing62 2 жыл бұрын
@@andoletube nah, never mind...
@eTiMaGo
@eTiMaGo 2 жыл бұрын
Just when you thought 3-cylinder engines were really straightforward :D I kinda envy early engine guys when they started experimenting with all these geometries! And now I have a craving for some CP Chocolate Pudding :D
@d4a
@d4a 2 жыл бұрын
I often imagine the early days and all the experimenting! Must have been an incredibly fun time.
@yogawan3805
@yogawan3805 2 жыл бұрын
@@d4a Hi, waiting for you to cover. Inline 8 vs V10 vs V12 vs W16. Also IF possible cover Viper V10 vs LFA V10. Thank you 😉 your content is awesome and easy to understand.
@mcspikesky
@mcspikesky 2 жыл бұрын
Careful asking for cp mon, might get something highly illegal or the feds
@andrewahern3730
@andrewahern3730 2 жыл бұрын
@@yogawan3805 locomotive engines leave no limit. Let’s have videos on i12 and v24 engines with 10” bores
@theEVILone0130
@theEVILone0130 Жыл бұрын
Interesting sound from the t- plane crankshafts it's intriguing.
@brucedonaldson1707
@brucedonaldson1707 Ай бұрын
I've had 5 Triumph triple motorcycles and two triple Suzuki cars and have loved every one, thanks to your excellent explanation, I now now why. I do really enjoy your insight into motor engineering principles and execution. Great presentations, so well done.
@EliteRock
@EliteRock 2 жыл бұрын
The 'flat plane', 180° Laverda triple was known for being better able to withstand race tuning than the 120°, a lot of racers continued using it long after the introduction of the latter. I think this was because the pressed-up crank was less prone to twisting its crank pins/webs out of alignment at high RPM and outputs with the 180° layout.
@selbub
@selbub 2 жыл бұрын
In the early 80s I rode a 1200 Mirage TS which had a 180 degree crank. The vibration was terrible. It was also very heavy at 250kgs. The original Jota was also 180 but I test drove a newly released 120 which was fast and smooth. I didn’t buy it because I wanted a tourer not a cafe racer. The Mirage with a120 crank would have been a great motorcycle. .
@EliteRock
@EliteRock 2 жыл бұрын
@@selbub I can imagine what the 1200 must be like, in theory at least as much vibration as a big (400) single, probably worse in fact. The RGS with its polypropylene bodywork and 120° crank was my dream bike back in the day (one of the most expensive bikes on sale at the time), might have suited your needs by the sound of it. Laverda always made their engines heavy (the twins were just as chunky), I think the idea may have been to 'mass damp' the vibration (which didn't really work). People convert the twins to 270° with some success.
@stelleratorsuprise8185
@stelleratorsuprise8185 Жыл бұрын
If the middle of these 3 pistons had have doubled in weight, it would have balanced out the oscillating masses of his lighter brothers.
@trey8367
@trey8367 3 ай бұрын
​@@selbub Properly tuned smooth as silk
@timmcvittie436
@timmcvittie436 3 ай бұрын
I was lucky enough to have owned two Laverda Jotas both with the ‘180 crank. Incredible sound . Now enjoying Triumph’s T-Plane 👍
@hasanimam3102
@hasanimam3102 2 жыл бұрын
When I started watching your contents, I was in school. Now I am an Automotive engineering student.
@RobSchofield
@RobSchofield 2 жыл бұрын
Another superb explanation - and I'm very pleased to see you included the brutal Jota 180 in there, making the video instantly 200% better (subjectively, of course!) Great!!
@nagisa5239
@nagisa5239 2 жыл бұрын
I am a proud owner of a 2022 Tiger 900GT and i will say im in love with my triple engine. When i saw this video, i had to watch :) The engine really does have a split personality, a great sound and is such an enjoyable motorcycle.
@MoistGrundle
@MoistGrundle 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. That's all I got man. You're criminally underviewed.
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 2 жыл бұрын
i loved the Chocolate Pudding explanation -- this is the mastery of math-logic
@ferdiyurdakul
@ferdiyurdakul 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting till end of video to tell you about laverda jota but you got it 👍 however, no need for cross plane i4 in a car, non equal length headers kinda do the same for sound. Awesome content again. Love the engineering side of things. Further in depth the better 👌
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the sound, I want the feeling of the CP engine ! Flat crank engines feel like an OFF/ON switch unless it's a V8.
@Texmotodad
@Texmotodad 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the explanation!. I have a 120 crank BMW K75s with bal shaft and an old Jota. Just really enjoy triples!
@PrimoStracciatella
@PrimoStracciatella 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered if anybody would mention the K75. I had a few and was surprised to learn that the K100 didn't have a balance shaft but the smaller engine did. Took me years to find out why. Also had three XS650, there are videos on youtube with this engine featuring a 270 degree crank, sounds cool!
@solarflare1008
@solarflare1008 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely need a coffee after this engineering class ☕
@Battle_Garage
@Battle_Garage 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely miss my street triple R. Phenomenal bike
@BySixa
@BySixa 2 жыл бұрын
Just commented after the brake video. I would absolutely love a master cylinder video to help understand how you can actually brake faster (and almost more importantly, more consistently). Some guys deleted the booster but install a larger master cylinder. Chasebays make great kits, especially their dual piston master cylinder with a 6:1 pedal ratio. Thanks for these video, Mark
@CP110
@CP110 2 жыл бұрын
The smaller the bore diameter the higher the braking force, however the smaller the bore diameter the less fluid it can move within the same stroke. so when you remove the booster, and swap to dual masters, they are usually smaller diameter than the single boosted master. Some people like the feeling of stiffer pedal and go up in bore size regardless if its boosted or not, however it requires more pedal force to get the same clamp force at the caliper. you can offset that a bit by increasing the pedal ratio (if space constraints allow, and pedal wont be too high)
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot brake harder than the tyre grip break point that all well maintained brakes without abs should easily obtain. I have never been on a motorcycle that more than two fingers are needed , stiff calipers, air , and pad/disc contamination are behind all crap braking imao.
@andrewahern3730
@andrewahern3730 2 жыл бұрын
@@MyKharli that’s true, but I don’t think that’s the question. I think it’s more about braking feel and that will be ABS independent. It’s ultimately a hydraulic system, so changing pistons on either side should affect the mechanical advantage, same as changing the fulcrum on a level.
@808bigisland
@808bigisland Жыл бұрын
Ran Lotus and AC without boosters. No prob on light cars with single piston calipers and small discs. Double the brake tube diameter and add heatsinks on the steel lines. 3x the amount of fluid scavenges heat from the pads very quickly. Avoid rubber hoses.
@paulm749
@paulm749 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation of the different character of the two major crank configurations in triples. Extra points for including a brief comment about the old Laverda flat-plane triple.
@JamesCouch777
@JamesCouch777 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job explaining the engineering behind the 3 cylinder engine.
@paulg3336
@paulg3336 2 жыл бұрын
I will have to admit that a derestricted Rocket3 has the most glorious exhaust note. I often hear them going past my place and they are the one bike I can instantly identify by sound . They sound surprisingly like a Rolls Royce Merlin. I know this because I once had a spitfire pass over my house at an altitude of about 30 metres.
@TheRealBhuado
@TheRealBhuado 2 жыл бұрын
bro.. its a 2.5 liter engine. what do you expect
@paulg3336
@paulg3336 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealBhuado capacity has little to do with it
@TheRealBhuado
@TheRealBhuado 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulg3336 displacement is the ONLY reason the sound is deep and throbbing. have you heard a 400 sound deep? no. because the displacement is what makes the sound rich
@paulg3336
@paulg3336 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealBhuado Vintage 250 and 350 singles wit megaphones
@doublenickel1000
@doublenickel1000 2 жыл бұрын
There's something about the exhaust note of engines with numbers of cylinders divisible by 3--3s, 6es, and 12s. There's kind of a 5th overtone in there that's lacking in twins and fours. It may have to do with the fact that there's a 3:2 ratio between the stroke and the firing interval--like 180/120 which in harmonics is a 5th overtone. It's a beautiful sound, I think.
@7ismersenne
@7ismersenne 2 ай бұрын
The combination of excellent graphics and complete clarity of explanation make your channel a must see for anyone interested in combustion engine design and practice. You have a gift for exposition. Thank you, d4a.
@dddon513
@dddon513 2 жыл бұрын
Recently comverted triumph 3 fan here. Have had everything else and then on a goof a bought an old speed triple. I loved the engine character and the chasis, though everything else was kind of mediocre and it had no tech at all. Moved up to a 1050 rs which has all the goodies and an even better version of the engine. Eventually I'll go to the new 1200. Triples 4 lyfe.
@terjejohnsen3651
@terjejohnsen3651 2 жыл бұрын
The best teacher on the youtube there is. Make my sundays perfect Who says sundayschool is boring.
@taty1
@taty1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for gifting us your talent of teaching us something so complicated that you made is so simple that anyone with the appetite to learn engine function to a deep level can just see you videos to get there 🙏. Thanks 🙏
@bobbynate4271
@bobbynate4271 Жыл бұрын
Great video! These engines are very mis understood. However, there is characteristic I think you didn't gave enough prase. You did briefly touch on it, but as an owner of two triumph 3 cylinder bikes, I feel it wasn't represented enough. The power curves are incredible. The ability to have such low rpm power and high rpm power is a great combination for a rider. Usually you trade one for the other, but these engines are so useful and fun because of this. Having to choose a low-end or high-end power band can seem fun, but over time impractical nature feels like a unseasonable limitation. The problem is, until you spend a reasonable amount time on a triple, this is hard to fathom. That being said, this video was incredible! 👍
@zweispurmopped
@zweispurmopped Жыл бұрын
Just some praise for the algorithm: Hands down the best channel about this topic! 🤗🤩
@alexluke84
@alexluke84 Жыл бұрын
I am in love of this explanations...you deserve a medal 💪
@billsmart2532
@billsmart2532 2 жыл бұрын
All you videos: Thanks for in depth descriptions. Excellent graphic animations too.
@888jackflash
@888jackflash Жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative. Love the firing graphic.
@MarioRD98
@MarioRD98 Жыл бұрын
Soy de Mexico, por consiguiente hablo español y se un poco de ingles (muy basico) entonces me avente el video subtitulado y a velocidad de 0.75 para poder escuchar, leer subtitulos y ver las representaciones, aun asi esta super bueno el video, se ve que eres una persona que sabe demasiado del tema, explicas muy bien y se entiende todo, felicidades! Tienes un subscriptor mas
@NELSONFAIER1
@NELSONFAIER1 Жыл бұрын
Eu sou do Brasil e se me passa exatamente o mesmo, inclusive a velocidade de 0,75 e entendi igual. Super bom o vídeo
@MessieAs
@MessieAs Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Today i learned something about my Tiger 955i and recognized it right away in the sequence with sound simulation. Great explanation as well!
@jeffstrine9012
@jeffstrine9012 Ай бұрын
What an awesome way to represent the sound of the engines at 10:40. So cool!
@SvcGlobal
@SvcGlobal 2 жыл бұрын
3 cylinders engines details I was looking for, thank you, excellent video!
@125brat
@125brat 2 жыл бұрын
Triumph and BSA developed the 750cc triple cylinder engine with 120 degree cranks in the 1960's as the Trident and Rocket lll and they were lovely engines bearing in mind the state-of-the-art in those days. The engines ran in perfect primary balance with plenty of torque but a unique sound when pushed hard. I owned a Triumph T150V Trident for more than 30 years - blew it up in '78, kept it as a basket-case then rebuilt it in about 2005 and regret getting rid of it now. I loved that bike, but the roads are so much more manic nowdays and I doubt I would have survived to today if I had kept it 😬
@shannonchurchill4556
@shannonchurchill4556 Жыл бұрын
I'm the proud (original) owner of a 2014 FZ-09, and I have to say, it's the smoothest motor I've ever ridden. The dyno chart is pretty much a 45 degree straight line. There is not a flat spot anywhere in the rev range and the spread is amazing.
@mortkb
@mortkb 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. You are a very talented engineer and have a great way of explaining complicated concepts.
@PeterR0035
@PeterR0035 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video with fantastic animation and technical detail. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@MandelloUK
@MandelloUK Жыл бұрын
Excellent, excellent video! Makes it so easy to understand - well done
@Lon1001
@Lon1001 2 жыл бұрын
Very excellent explanation. I learned things I didn't even know I didn't know today.
@routemainstreet
@routemainstreet 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you put together an amazing explanation of the 3 cylinder engines. I ride a triumph sprint 1050 and love the engine.👍
@fredrosse
@fredrosse Жыл бұрын
Is the 1050 a T-plane?
@routemainstreet
@routemainstreet Жыл бұрын
@@fredrosse no it isn’t. I believe triumph came out with that firing order in 2019
@fidobite3798
@fidobite3798 5 ай бұрын
Excellent as always!! I presently own a Triumph Speed Triple & traded a Yamaha MT09 for it. Having the opportunity for extensive comparison of the two I honestly noticed little difference in vibration character. Both engines are wonderful!
@larchman4327
@larchman4327 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a Polaris 650 two stroke 3 cylinder snowmobile with triple pipes. That was the coolest sounding machine.
@Jamaa_wetu
@Jamaa_wetu 7 ай бұрын
One of the best persons to explain engines
@SuperWhiteBarry
@SuperWhiteBarry 10 ай бұрын
Great video man, as always!
@HamiltonSRink
@HamiltonSRink 2 жыл бұрын
BSA Rocket 3 is a derserving winner of the accolade, Triple Trouble. BUT, when everything is right, not many bikes sound quite as good!
@Yeebok
@Yeebok 2 жыл бұрын
Just happy to see you showing stuff on these motors. Love my Tiger
@manray005
@manray005 2 ай бұрын
I have a 24 XSR900. I chose it specifically for the CP3 engine. They are my favorite by far. Very torquey and fun all the time and they have the best sound with a cool high and low mix.
@n.mcneil4066
@n.mcneil4066 2 жыл бұрын
This video made me recall my first Honda twin. It had the same firing order as my dad's John Deere, 180 & 540 degrees as opposed to Triumph twins being 360 & 360 degrees. On the Honda & John Deere the crankpins were 180 degrees apart while on the Triumph both pistons were at TDC at the same time. This gave the Honda better balance while the Triumph offered a smoother power flow. As for the John Deere balance wouldn't have been a concern at 900rpm.
@d4a
@d4a 2 жыл бұрын
Nice example! Here's a little video on twins in case you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2q9d413d8Z_mMk
@anvilsvs
@anvilsvs 2 жыл бұрын
The Deeres do shake. The only reason balance isn't much of an issue is that they're so heavy that engine balance isn't that significant.
@ropeyarn
@ropeyarn Ай бұрын
Great explanations. Now all we need is for motorcycle reviewers to be honest about the vibration result. Side considerations are engine noise, not exhaust noise, and RPM at highway speeds/gearing. An example would be the BMW K100LT I used to own. It was comfortable at only one speed, 73mph, and buzzed everywhere else.
@DarthRidiculous
@DarthRidiculous Ай бұрын
My Rocket 3 Storm is really smooth and has tons of torque and traction. GJ Triumph! again, great video. I learn so much from these.
@PhilipFly11
@PhilipFly11 2 ай бұрын
In 1978, I bought a Laverda 1200 Mirage brand new, it definitely had a 180 degree crankshaft. Unusually, it was pressed together, with ball bearings for the main bearings and needle bearings for the big ends, like a 2-stroke. It was, in fact, quite smooth. I thought that it was smoother than my friend’s Kawasaki Z1, which had an annoying tingle, at high rpm. The Laverda had an uneven exhaust note, a bit like a 4 cylinder engine, firing only on 3 cylinders. I installed an open 3=>1 open racing pipe which could be heard from about 2 miles away . . . . it was a beast! In 1981, Laverda switched to a 120 degree crankshaft, which made a smoother sound, but lost the character of the original 180 crankshaft and it vibrated at high rpm.
@jordanlee9353
@jordanlee9353 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video. This makes me think of the 2.9L F154 V6 in the Alfa Romeo Giulia/Stelvio Quadrifoglio. I believe the firing order in that guy is 120-60-120-60-120-60. The sounds is astoundingly unique. Audi/Porsche have a 2.9L V6 as well, but they utilize offset journals to accommodate an even firing order. Lower RPM and nowhere near as fun to listen to.
@jonell1425
@jonell1425 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of these videos illustrating, by sight and sound, the difference throughout the rev range. I'll admit to being nearly obsessed over the different crank configurations of parallel twins.
@AllTheRamenOnTheSky
@AllTheRamenOnTheSky 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Normally stuff like this just goes well over my head, like even if you explained it like I'm 5 I probably still wouldn't get it, and yet I was able to comprehend most of this. I think the visual stuff helped a lot.
@2minstomidnight
@2minstomidnight 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thanks! Check out also the BENELLI 900 & 1130 engine 3 cilynders engine! Cheers!
@ScarlettStunningSpace
@ScarlettStunningSpace 2 жыл бұрын
1:39 Now if we take a circle, which is obviously 360 degrees, and divide that circle into three equal parts, we'll see that it turns into a Mercedes logo.
@johnsimpson2096
@johnsimpson2096 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Something aside from firing interval and balance is the inertial effect of the constantly oscillating piston on the rotation of the crank. Don't claim to be an expert on this but I believe that a 90 degree crank pin spacing cancels this out while 180 spacing reinforces it. I have not seen any of your videos refer to this. Could be one reason the cross plane engine is so good for racing because the crank rotation is smoother and better for tire wear and traction.
@d4a
@d4a 2 жыл бұрын
You're speaking of secondary balance. Watch the graph and the 90 vs 180 crank offset will immediately make sense. Watch the linked video to learn why it actually happens.
@llaughridge
@llaughridge Жыл бұрын
Thais was EXCEPTIONALLY well-presented and illustrated. 👍🏻
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing another awesome video! The color coding was especially helpful for clarity and quick understanding of concept. Nicely done, and very informative!
@m3talc0re
@m3talc0re 2 жыл бұрын
Sound and feel from an engine can mean a lot. Just look at how much we love our Harleys.
@YouMotorcycle
@YouMotorcycle Жыл бұрын
Uber picky motorcycle rider here. Just wanted to say great video 👍
@sean8470
@sean8470 Жыл бұрын
love my RIII Roadster 2014 from triumph with that inline 3 cylinder engine- absolutely awesome engine!!!
@baetech1982
@baetech1982 2 жыл бұрын
I knew I was right when I chose Triumph....lol, awesome explanation....
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