DLSS Ghosting GONE: the SECRET to Secondary Scaling | MSFS 2020 & MSFS 2024

[@cpt-bossman]

Thank you for featuring my channel! I truly appreciate the effort you put into your videos-it’s inspiring to see how you’re helping others. This setting isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution but serves as a solid foundation that can be adjusted for individual setups. Some users might face challenges due to their DLSS base option or Sim Base resolution, while others might experience no issues at all. Keep up the fantastic work! 🎉

[@trinityoguneme9518]

U are life saver to the sim community thank u bruv

[@tim737murphy]

I dont know how you figured this out but i am blown away with the clarity now on the speed and altitude tapes not to mention the smoothness in performance mode. Thanks for this great config setting.

[@IslandSimPilot]

All props to you, Bossman, you unlocked the key to this. Thanks again for sharing!

[@jbninjah1776]

Subbed Bossman! I love the team effort and collaborating with each other!

[@IslandSimPilot]

@ I really appreciate that, I’ve been watching his sub numbers go up and it has put a smile on my face.

[@oguzulgen]

This is a life saver! You just made my day. I was using TAA all this time with the dlss to fsr mod because of the ghosting, now I can finally use DLSS thanks to you and Air Bossman. You both rock!

[@IslandSimPilot]

Thanks so much for the feedback and support!

[@josafatbrenesilama3937]

Hi guys! Could someone help me please 😢 I have done Step by step but my sim goes bad. With dlss I still watching the same

[@d.p.5874]

Hi there, Thx for this new settings that actually provide much crispier images on MSFS 2020. In my case I found that setting secondary resolution to 1.25 with DLSS super resolution in balanced mode was enough to get such noticeable improvement. Cheers and fly safe !

[@Neraut17]

The only boss here is you dude! Thx for that new tip! Love my 2020 sim with DLSS 3.8, quality but i'm going to try with those new settings

[@brianharris1830]

I agree wholeheartedly!

[@willy72_72]

Thank you. In MSFS 2024 these tips gave me an fps boost and lightened the load on my 3080 Ti ! I'm running DLSS with Auto to give me the best all around experience.

[@77flyer]

Can u share all your settings? Now for 2024, we have similar specs. Thanks

[@willy72_72]

@@77flyer Ryzen 5800x, 3080TI, 64GB RAM, Screen resolution 1440p, 120 MHz - DLSS, AUTO, frame gen ON, AMD FidelFX sharpening 200, v sync off, low latency ON, Frame rate limit 100%, Dynamic settings ON, frame rate target 60, ADV Settings - I started with the high preset and then tweaked 1 by 1 each setting and monitored my FPS and visual quality (user bias), biggest impact seems to be TLOD and OLOD, mine are both at 100. Ray traced shadows OFF. I will add that my experience with FPS and visual quality seems to vary where I fly and the server load (impacts quality of the data that is streamed) here on the US West Coast. I hope this helps as a starting point to tweak your settings. Unfortunately right now everyone's experience is widely different, so take my settings with a grain of salt (this is what is working for me and my system).

[@alexriot301]

@@willy72_72is it possible to use frame gen on rtx30 generation video cards? I thought it’s only 40 generation vantage

[@ppocmrmojo]

Hi! I usually follow your videos. You give good tips for performance improvements and talk about new drivers and new dlss files. All great work! This topic deserves better investigation since it's not talked about the developers. I messed with the secondary scaling in the good old 2020 with mixed results. If you turn on the internal "fps counter" from developer mode, you will see that it presents 3 different resolutions. A "pre", a "post", and an output. Secondary scaling is effectively changing the "post" resolution. It is indeed an upscaling. From what I gathered it's not related with dlss at all. The primary scaling is the "pre resolution" and its the one you set in the graphics settings of the sim. The secondary scaling is the "post resolution" and its taking the primary and doubling it if you use 2.0. So you are really asking the sim to render all the screen, all the frames at twice the resolution. It's like the slider for TAA to increase the resolution. And finally the output resolution is what is affected by DLSS or FSR. From my tests, if you keep the secondary scaling at 1.0 and double the resolution in the sim and apply the DLSS it has almost the same pratical result. Its not exactly the same I don't know why but in terms of performance its very close. Like someone said, doubling the secondary scaling, or any other value above 1 is demanding more from the gpu, increasing vram, increasing frametimes, exactly like increasing the base resolution. I think that option exists in the config file to give the user the option for resolutions outside the normal ones your screen can output. And the option exists from prior the release of gpu drivers that allowed adding resolutions above the max default resolution of the connected screen, aka prior to Nvidia's DSR. I haven't tested it but I bet if we change to TAA and increase the slider to other than one, save the setting and check the config file, the secondandy scaling will reflect that setting. Just a guess... Cheers and keep up the good work!

[@DopeEx]

It's exactly as you say. I wanted to test it and still had TAA selected ingame and the slider for TAA was at 100, if I set secondary scaling to 2 in the config, I only have a handful of frames in the main menu with TAA and a 4080 because the resolution with TAA is twice my normal resolution (4K). With DLSS performance it still looks much worse for me than with unmodified TAA and I have the same performance.

[@TheAcousticCitizen]

This is the right analysis. 2x times secondary scaling is basically rendering your resolution at twice the size. Which can can take up a lot of GPU. That said, maybe running your usual resolution lower, than using secondary scaling times 2 would be good.

[@jazzman9103]

Man, this is long overdue. I have been meaning to give you a HUGE THANK YOU awhile back for the lossless scaling app! I saw the app before you did your video but didn't get it until I saw your video, I say all of that to say how much I value your channel for nuts and bolts of flightsim for the average systems. This new tweak is awesome, I gained 40+ fps over my TAA settings!! Just goes to show you are valued in this space so again Thanks from the bottom of my heart!

[@skyhigh776]

More awesome info from Mr IslandSimPilot! This looks amazing. Will try first thing tomorrow. Many thanks for your continued support of the simming community.

[@IslandSimPilot]

And thank you for the continued support!

[@JonARNZ]

This makes such a big difference in MSFS2020 and provides a sizeable gain in 2024. I have noticed this evening ghosting in the Just Flight RJ's gauges.

[@francsalazar]

This is awesome! I did noticed a big impact on FPS in 2024, then I did a little test. If you change the "2" and input "1.2" instead, it has almost the same improvement on the ghosting (there is still a little bit but almos non noticeable) and the hit on FPS is not that hard. If you are struggling with FPS impact, try different numbers lower than 2 but higher than 1 and it might help as well! (tested on a 4070 Super)

[@IslandSimPilot]

That's great information, thanks a lot for sharing this!

[@nontas27]

Did the same with my 3060, 1.2 works very well and fps hit is minimal. Tested with pmdg 737, from 80fps dropped to 27fps with 2.0, 46fps with 1.5, 65 with 1.2. There is some shadow and ingame window flickering though. Will try 1.1

[@Swedish-VR-Pilot]

Quick question: for VR users I would have to change the value under VR secondary scaling, right?

[@ITMann]

Thank you so much for your channel. Really is an excellent step in the right direction. But also understanding that everyones setup, hardware, software settings may have differences. Certainly keeps my steam-punk RTX 2080Ti coasting along for more miles, like an old classic car that I refuse to trade in !! lol. But I guess that one day, it may have to be put to rest on the shelf for a new system. But not at the moment. It works for me smoothing out the wrinkles. Still achieving over 30fps at 1440 ultrawide monitor. ( with a little help from Lossless and AutoFPS). Much appreciated to yourself and " Bossman " for his contribution.

[@garethm42]

This has made a huge difference with the clarity of glass cockpit displays in msfs 2024. Adding AutoFPS also keeps the fps steady across all flight phases. Thank you!

[@Britalex]

do you use autofps in the sim or the external program?

[@borsi99]

Thank you so much again for your video! As always I get very important informations from you!👍🏼 Your page is one of the most important sites for me❗️Thanks a lot and please go on😊 Bo, Switzerland

[@A14Austin14]

Thank you for sharing this. This has worked wonders for me. I only fly PMDG 737 and have always used TAA until today because of ghosting. This works phenomenally.

[@IslandSimPilot]

Very glad to hear, I fly the 738 a ton.

[@TimAyro]

Unfortunately did not eliminate ghosting for me. Using a 3080, installed the frame gen mod, swapped the latest DLSS, running the DLSS with performance and even tried ultra performance.

[@jonheuer4945]

same. except on a 3070

[@spooterify]

Great video, your content is always amazing. Secondary Scaling on 2 like some have mentioned here will smash your VRAM and as we know in MSFS2024 once the threshold has been exceeded it's lights out for the sim.

[@chrisbawden5052]

The one thing missing from your video is the effect this has on your FPS. It definitely eliminates the ghosting, but also halves your FPS resulting in stuttery performance. Might need a better GPU than my 4060 ti to use this fix. But using DSR factors via the Nvidia app gave the same improvement without destroying my FPS and smoothness.

[@francsalazar]

I has some issues with my card as well, but when I tried 1.2 instead of 2, it got rid of the ghosting and the FPS impact was much lower. Give it a try!

[@chrisbawden5052]

@@francsalazar Thanks, that sounds like a good idea.

[@DeineOmi1976]

Thank you for this video. What a huge change.

[@Rolfhult]

Thank you, great guide! Butter smooth in 45fps with loads of headroom on my 9800x3d/4080s/64Gb and vive pro2. Graphics on ultra. Thank you thank you thank you 🥳

[@darrenberkey7017]

The ghosting issue I'm having is in VR, where every object in the world leaves a ghost trail as you fly past them. It's not just the glass panels.

[@MarkGianotis]

Tried this mod a few days ago and it halved my FPS and was all stuttery like you showed in this video, so I switched it back right away. After seeing this I gave it another try and, voila! nice and smooth. I followed your Holy Grail settings tutorials, use frame gen and Auto FPS. My sim is buttery smooth for the most part on ultra settings in 4k. Thank you for doing all the trial and error and sharing the results, your videos are quite helpful for those of us who tweak more than fly! 😄

[@IslandSimPilot]

I almost did the exact same thing, Mark! Glad all this has worked for you.

[@fricky172]

THANK YOU! I just got my first RTX card, so DLSS options are new to me. Immediately noticed the ghosting on my G1000 display, and like you said, that was a huge nope. Can't wait to experiment with these!

[@airmanflyer3570]

If my sim is working so great it’s because of you man ! Thank you so much again captain !

[@IslandSimPilot]

You're quite welcome, Amigo!

[@airmanflyer3570]

@islandsimpilot Amigo yesterday I have installed the new Nvidia driver and I am shocked about the perfs and graphics I get now on the fs2020!! Amazing driver, probably the best I have ever seen since I’m doing sim!

[@hugopnabais]

@10:25... ups, look at that small window on the left next to the pen!

[@broker231061]

Thank you for that information! Works fine!

[@jaroslawpiwar5811]

I tried it and I have to say that it's a great solution also in VR, without which MSFS doesn't exist for me. Thanks to it I managed to get 100 FPS on Quest 2 but I prefer 60 FPS in DLSS -> DLAA. At times I feel like in a real plane, that's how it scales. You're great. Thanks.

[@IslandSimPilot]

Thanks so much, Jaroslaw!

[@Santasemilla]

Hi!! Just a quick one. Don't go for great FPSs in VR. Search for OculusDebugTool videos. There is an option to limit FPS in order to sync it with your headset's refresh rate. So, if you use 72Hz you want to find stable 36FPS. 80Hz -> 40FPS, etc.That way you will lower the computing load going to your visor and will keep a smooth experience. Hope it helps!

[@DeepSkySimulations]

Thank you for the video. What you experience at 5:32 also occurs frequently on my end, but in my case it usually solves itself by turning Frame Generation Off and On again - in short, I found that the GPU sometimes gets confused with the frames and turning it off and on solves the problem. If that solves the problem for you, too, you may be able to use secondary scaling with better quality instead of setting DLSS to Performance.

[@jonheuer4945]

What fixes is it alt+enter. Full screen to windowed back to full screen. Hope this helps!

[@SARHeli241]

This. Is. Absolutely. Amazing!!! Subscribed

[@IslandSimPilot]

Thanks!

[@SARHeli241]

@IslandSimPilot I just posted links to you and Air Bossman on my channel and hope to send some appreciation your way any way I can. Thank you! I have just a small following, but hopefully, some of these helicopter pilots will also benefit from these massive improvements.

[@nothing-x8p6t]

did everything as in the video but i still get ghosting

[@lillopilot6707]

there is ghosting in the smaller standby......

[@willembont4790]

That looks so much better, Thanks guys.

[@Owen-mt4si]

Very good tip, feel like everything is sharper with a faster frame rate. I think I know why the menus get lighter, they are running a reflection / transparency layer on it, and when the sub-rendering is 2x it makes that texture layer twice as big, bet the image used has a light to dark gradient on it. I noticed when I was looking around the cockpit with the communication menu open and I panned over a canopy frame and it looked like a scaled reflection more then a transparency. So the down side is the fancy menu transparency is a bit more blocky, for having crisp gauges and LCD, I think I will go for sharper cockpit any day. It is also possible it will make reflections look different I have not noticed that yet.

[@MichGoBIue]

Very cool. Nice find. Looks like a lot will benefit from this.

[@anwaralattar3238]

I am going to give this a try, but just an additional tip, I’ve been using DLSS quality with mix of high and medium settings and to get over the ghosting issue (which is bearable but not super accurate) i popped out the pfd & nd; WASM, on a secondary display underneath my monitor. Keeps all crisp! Try it, but in all cases, cheers man !

[@chrisibbotson6367]

Secondary Scaling to 2 just destroys my 3080ti. Performance is appalling unless I drop right down to the lowest DLSS setting. Native is 4K so it is attempting to render at 8K but with the DLSS its showing 2K in Dev Mode. Vram is well and truly blown. Tried this before in 2020 but it was the same results in the past. FPS went to a grand total of TWO with a 500ms cpu latency. Returned Sec Scale to 1 as it was jittery on lowest settings

[@IslandSimPilot]

Yeah, once you get to 4k it's a whole different story with a lot of these settings things. I am running this with a 3080ti at 2k and it's brilliant. I never would have thought of turning the DLSS down to performance, but it works like a charm, and really, this is exactly what DLSS Performance should do.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Yep, try 1.25 and DLSS Quality together with swapping the DLSS file to version 3.8.

[@chrisibbotson6367]

@@4secsharkmr352 still not great. I have the latest Autofps so will give it a try again

[@sfl.simianflu]

You are still rendering in 2x your screen resolution, giving yourself hella lot more VRAM usage, core load and FPS hit. Check it out at in developer mode. The way that MS implemented DLSS in MSFS is messed up in FS2024 too unfortunately, all the glass cockpit gauges have ghosting (to a different extent, GA units are the worst), but ie. A400M Hud hasn't any - so I guess its possible to avoid it

[@IslandSimPilot]

"You are still rendering in 2x your screen resolution, giving yourself hella lot more VRAM usage, core load and FPS hit." Well, potentially, but that's where DLSS Performance mode comes in, rendering the overall image at 50% of your monitor real estate and then upscaling it. When I'm on DLAA it gets crushed, with Performance (which I never, ever would have thought of using) it runs like a top. Thanks to Air Bossman.

[@sfl.simianflu]

@@IslandSimPilot What I'm saying is check your usage with DLSS set to DLAA and secondary scaling at 1.0, against DLSS set to Performance and secondary scaling at 2.0. It is not the same at all, settin to performance does not make up for it. Try some busier areas (and/or more resource-intensive aircraft like FBW a380). What you are actually doing is having MSFS scale your image in postprocessing to 2x of your resolution. Secondary scaling isn't even a DLSS term, it was there in settings of MSFS2020 before DLSS was even a thing

[@PhilippSeven]

@@IslandSimPilotusing secondary scaling as 2x it’s like not use dlss at all 😅 in this case just use TAA

[@nattornnivatvongs6217]

that's very useful . i follow your setting and it works fine.😊😊

[@chalkie54]

Great video. Not sure if it's my screen but looks like something funky going on at about 10:54 just as you rotate. Look at the windshield left of the pmdg pen...?

[@Epic_Andre_9]

Works great, thanks for sharing!!!

[@IcelandicWarrior]

I don't use the Tobii but I do use VR - I tried the cfg file change and saw an immediate improvement in the glass cockpit display - much sharper (no longer had to lean forward to read it). Thanks

[@JBMetalProductions]

When changing the altitude is when the ghosting just destroyed my eyes.

[@DavidS-ti4cb]

I used 1.5 and not 2...........less strain on my GPU a 4047ti Super which runs at 60 fps locked with Frame Generation on. Works perfectly.

[@Ali271194]

for me actually its decreases the performance, therefore i will stay on TAA settings i thought about dlss swapper. never used it before does it something have to do with it because of old DLSS Versions?

[@Boeing_NikoBellic]

This is just amazing. I wish I knew about this earlier.

[@haukestelzer8424]

Unfortunately, this doesn't work for me (4070 Ti Super). But my DLSS Frame Generation is greyed out (DX11 Mode).Might this be the problem?

[@haukestelzer8424]

So even with DX12 (beta) on and now DLSS Frame Generation working: The blurring is still there (Fenix)

[@kennykanada]

Changed as suggested. When I then go into vr, the scene is all crooked on an angle, and I’m not near the plane. Shift C puts me at a sideways 45degree view (makes me dizzy). Unflyable! When I changed it back to the default, everything was fine again. (12900, 4090, 64g, Crystal). Thanks anyways.

[@Peter-tb5vg]

Did you also use DLSS swooper to get the latest driver. ( Think that's what it's called). Seen that on a number of KZbin channels. Haven't tried it yet but looks like that gives a graphics boost too

[@andybrockbank3027]

Tried the outlined settings. Something that annoys me and hasn't been resolved is the numbers in the Altitude setting window when moving from say 18000 to 19000 where the number response is in nowhere as clear as TAA. It's as though the numbers are in some sort of fluid and take a whiles to settle.

[@Britalex]

Just tried, i am not sure why i am still seeing the blurry gauges...

[@davidgiles9751]

This mod killed my performance, which had been very smooth. I reset my UserCfg back to how it was. I have noticed that the glass displays in MSFS2024 have a much higher hit on performance than they did in MSFS2020. Hoping that Asobo will address this in the pending update.

[@SkyCommand]

after testing this, i'm seeing a bit of compromise in heavy cloud layers at a distance (artifacting like crazy!) - have you seen the same?

[@s16n]

Wow. This has given me 10-15FPS in VR. I stayed away from Performance because it made such a mess of the instruments. Now I have 60FPS - not in a dense city of course. I haven't tried that but the same FPS gain there would be epic 🎉

[@Danimalpm1]

My primary issue was never with ghosting on the PFD, it’s the ghosting on the speed and heading readouts of the MCP/FCU when changing those values with DLSS in use. The numbers blur together making it difficult to know when to stop scrolling. Did you show that in the video or am I the only one experiencing that blur?

[@77flyer]

so the trick is DLSS with performance and do the user.cfg change, nice!! got it!! thanks!!

[@IslandSimPilot]

You got it, my friend!

[@_nivlqC]

Were just gonna ignore that centerline on that test 2 takeoff xD

[@IslandSimPilot]

That did bother me! LOL! I was looking out the side window using the rudders trying to keep it somewhat centered :)

[@_nivlqC]

@ all flight sim tragedies (vatsim or not) begin with an uncenterlined takeoff

[@ZDubLee]

Unfortunately, this didn’t work for me that way that it did for you. I still have some ghosting in 2024, not as noticeable but it’s still there.

[@g_pazzini]

i think it’s for the 4k resolution only.. i’m using 1440p and still git ghosting and blur on glass cockpit

[@augustomartins9516]

The problem here is, greatly increases Vram usage. Therefore, for GPU's with 6, 8 or 12 GB of Vram it is a no-go

[@CerebralFrequency-nm9sf]

Same, ate all VRAM and drastically lowered frames. It does look better though. Will probably revert.

[@IslandSimPilot]

Even with the Ultra Performance setting?

[@augustomartins9516]

@@IslandSimPilot yes. I have a 4070 Ti, 12Gb and it doesn't work. 1440p, ultra, DLSS+DLAA. Even with Ultra Perfomance the Vram leaks to RAM

[@titelrolvertolker]

​@@augustomartins9516I have the same card and same problem here. MSFS2024 already likes to eat up my VRAM so this definitely won't help

[@CaptainEvillian]

@@augustomartins9516 the whole point is to not use dlaa though. You can run diss on performance upscaling but have the displays sharp like dlaa

[@bakzetary3145]

There has been ghosting everywhere in the sim! I'll let you know if it helps with any outside objects too? (I wish!)

[@AE4VJ]

I'm curious if you turned the frame gen off of that strange bit when looking around would improve. That may be worth a try, but we all want frame gen :)

[@IslandSimPilot]

It's possible, I did think about it (forget if I tried it or not), however with DLSS at Performance and the visuals as good as they are, I'm a happy guy.

[@Daniel-Hawk]

That doesn't worked for me. I7/9gen . 3080, 32gb . Stalls completely. And ctd😢

[@celestedestiny]

Secondary scaling also increases sharpness and clarity of reflections such as mirrors and the gauges “mirroring “ on the windows at night. Also windows on modeled buildings have increased sharpness of reflections. Very cool to pull up to a gate and clearly see your planes reflection in the waiting area windows And also be able to have functional mirrors in planes that have them. I set mine to 1.46 , using TAA and 1.01 on main scaling .

[@KCPrible98]

You know, I think this worked. I had a terrible time in the FS24 Sim with Ghosting 2 days ago. I used your tip today and yesterday I got a big update to W11 24H2. I did not get a chance to test out FS24 after the 24H2 update, but I applied your fix immediately after watching your video today as well as set my NVIDIA System Performance to Automatic Tuning. I don't know for sure what did it, but it flew buttery smooth tonight. Thank you for all your great ideas on making things better for us.

[@Bellthorian]

I know that in VR, the difference between DLAA and everything else is noticeable.

[@Xlastsuspectx]

7:35 now do that in a normal seating position, it would be blurry af. this is not a fix, you get the same results without making any changes to the .cfg file just be moving up close to the displays.

[@IslandSimPilot]

I also showed it close up with secondary scaling at 1 and there was ghosting. This works.

[@Xlastsuspectx]

@@IslandSimPilot okay but what if you move further back? no one is gonna fly having the camera inside of the PFD.

[@Xlastsuspectx]

@@IslandSimPilot Also, I have a 4090, I never get any ghosting what so ever if I place the camera inside the instruments like that. This changed nothing for me, was still blurry in a normal seating position.

[@MustafaGT]

@@XlastsuspectxI too have a 4090 and ghosting appears no matter what seat position you are in or how close you are to the instrument. You either trolling or don’t know what you talking about brah!!

[@gianluk81]

...can I ask you for some info, hoping to solve my dxgi crashes with this "mod"? What exact version do you have of the framegen dlls and especially of dlss? Last thing, what version of the nvidia drivers do you have? Thanks again friend!

[@ArcanePath360]

That white line in the water is the bane of MSFS. It really ruins an otherwise perfect image (apart from SSR which I can forgive for it's performance). If anyone knows how to get rid of this white line that I always see in MSFS2024 between the reflections at the edge of every lake, please let me know (if it can even be done). I've messed with the settings and nothing seems to work

[@cowboyent1309]

This will kill your performance though.

[@IslandSimPilot]

Not in DLSS Performance mode. Even Ultra Performance looks great with this if you have to drop that low.

[@mobbe123]

I tried this with msfs 2024 and it didn't work so great. I get 12 FPS when I got 50 FPS before the change. The wierd thing is my GPU goes purple and runs at 100%. So I reverted to .1 and everything works again! RTX4070 super GPU.

[@TractorMonkeywithJL]

And yet Asobo claims they can't figure out a fix for this. I gave it try and it works for me, but I didn't really gain any FPS. I use triple 2k monitors, with a 4090 and an I913900k processor and get the same performance on just TAA.

[@thwelly]

Not working for me, have to turn it back... as I have a "slideshow" with that settings ..

[@moritz3224]

thank you so much! its working...

[@Ian_Livesey]

Does this only work with DX12? I can't use DX12 because I get the crash notification after a while in MSFS2020.

[@ati4280]

Great finding! Although I am on AMD GPU, but I think it also works for AMD GPU with DLSS enabler mod which also able to use DLSS scaler though it's FSR. But the base algorithm is still DLSS I think, the mod just intercepts the pathway and change it to FSR. I'll come back to give the result.

[@IslandSimPilot]

Please do! I would like to be able to help AMD users as well!

[@ati4280]

@IslandSimPilot I tried use the 2.0 setting provided in the video. But unfortunately, this trick didn't work with AMD GPU. The DLSS mod may use a totally different way for upscaling this time. I can see the post resolution actually doubled to 8K (I am on a 4K monitor). I have to use ultra performance level if I use the in-game DLSS super resolution setting to achieve a render resolution of 2K, which is the same as native DLSS quality. The performance isn't better compare to default secondaryscaling set to 1.0. Most importantly, it didn't fix the ghosting on glass screens. Glad you guys on Nvidia finally fix this issue, I will stick with FSR2 until asobo import the FSR3.1. Cheers.

[@s16n]

😂 I thought that ghosting was deliberate and simulating what the MFD/PFD does in real-life. Kinda wish I still did 😊

[@Дмитрий-ш1ю7ф]

What preset do you use in Nvidia Profile inspector?

[@Captain-Dave73]

This is great news but unfortunately for some reason i cannot get it working, i have followed the instructions but still getting ghosting

[@henson2k]

I just glad MS did not use Unreal Engine

[@gianluk81]

Hi, I was disappointed in my sim, in the sense. The "trick" works very well and the sim would also be fine, except that I practically "continuously" receive the DXGI error with the related crash of the sim. As I reset this parameter (to default value), no dxgi errors and everything works normally, albeit with the problem of ghosting on the instruments.

[@rulbinger]

the flickering with DLAA @ 2.0 looks like an issue with FG to me

[@skyfall2442]

For some reason it doesn’t work on my 4070

[@apage32137]

Great advice but my cfg file just keeps resetting to 1.0000 after saving and closing the file. No idea why, but I appreciate you making the video. I thought I had a chance to improve my performance.

[@UncleDEntertainment2023]

That Beta DX12 setting you got over there is trash and causes ah lot of conflicts, keeping mine set to DX11 however fixed ah whole bunch of problems for me.....I see your's is set to DX12 Beta....might wanna change that.....if you havent already!👍👍👍

[@Tradingworld2020-w5z]

It didn't work for me, I see a lot of ghosts in the shadows of the plane, and on the sides, especially when we see landing replays.

[@flystratej]

IslandSimPilot saving the Flight Sim Community once again. Thanks for the video! Did something simliar with the cfg file in 2020 so I'll give it a go in 2024 with the DLSSSwapper

[@Morst434]

What a put the night instrument textures. Way very blurry with dlss?

[@DopeEx]

If DLSS-Performance uses 50% of the resolution then this simply cancels itself out because secondary scaling to 2 doubles your render resolution. First doubling and then cutting in half just gives you your normal resolution, but you're creating a lot of overhead, so you're better off just using your resolution without all that stuff. This is the reason why so many people write that their performance drops completely because the card first has to achieve the double resolution before the fun runs through dlss.

[@IslandSimPilot]

I tried simplifying it, but yes you are using 50% of the rest of the resolution, but the electronic flight displays are a different story. They are separate from the DLSS-Performance setting, and they use a lot of overhead. So reducing your GPU/VRAM usage with DLSS-Performance gives you the ability to then double the render scale of the electronic flight displays. If that makes sense.

[@Xonarous]

I still get ghosting Unfortunately

[@JQNick]

Only works up close, zoom back out and it ghosts again.

[@lacsap3001]

First of all, thank you so much for the fantastic video. I also tried it myself and was impressed at first. But after around 5 minutes, I experienced a big drop in fps. Msfs2024 was unplayable. I would really appreciate it if you have any tips or suggestions My specs: Rtx 4080 super i9-9900k 64gb Ram

[@IslandSimPilot]

Try setting it to 1.2, a lot of people have had success with that. Are you running native frame gen?

[@lacsap3001]

@IslandSimPilot will try it thanks. I'm using the frame gen inside msfs options, nothing else

[@pilotbsinthesky3443]

Weird, I saw others who tried this with a GPU with less than 12GB of ram and it was killing their systems. It was also substantially lowering their FPS. You use a 4090 correct? I wonder why others were seeing the opposite performance after moving from 1 to 2. Maybe they weren't lowering DLSS setting like you did. Just saw your test was in 2020, did you have same results in 2024? I'll have to give it a try with my 4060 8GB. Thanks

[@IslandSimPilot]

I'm actually running a 3080ti, and I guarantee you they didn't lower their DLSS setting. I did the same thing the first time and almost gave up on it. And same result in 2024!

[@jxk4500]

on quality it tanks my frames on 4k with a 4090. will try later on perfomance mode.

[@cdnrod]

Hi all! Without doing this ghosting fix (which i will try out) I quiet often get that stuttering when I start a flight (737-600 PMDG is my go to plane). I will pause, go to setting and lower the sim's resolution by one factor, save, then go back and restore to my desired resolution, and save. Back into the sim I go and tadaa!!! that stuttering is completely gone. This works for me every time, I mean every time. I don't know why the issue happens, I don't know why what i do works, but it works (at least for me). Cheers!

[@IslandSimPilot]

It's funny because I get that sometimes coming back from the settings menu if I try and change something during a flight. I've heard about this one before but I never remember it. I'll try this time!

[@mariocardabollo3631]

I use latest version of dlss and the quality is always worse than taa. 1920x1080 and 3060ti.

[@chrischiozza5762]

Does anyone have the problem that it kills frames on 3080. Tried numerous times?

[@olegatc3663]

I did everything the same, but ghosting slill here. Well, i have to stay on TAA.

[@joeycurtis6621]

Hey there, curious how much VRAM you have on your GPU? I have 8gb VRAM and this trick only works well for me on ultra performance mode (3440x1440p ultrawide screen)

[@alblock7267]

followed every step and still get ghosting on the altimeter tape. the rest is smooth performance wise, suggestions?

[@IslandSimPilot]

Hey, do you have the latest DLSS file and driver? Might help if you don’t.

[@asono11]

I’ve followed your instructions but all I get is extreme stutter. Any idea why that’s happening? I’m on a Lenovo Legion 5i pro with 3070 8G and i7 12700h. Running the FSR to DLSS mod and getting high fps even at high/ultra settings so the hardware shouldn’t be the problem here

[@IslandSimPilot]

What do you have your DLSS set at? Performance? Also, DLSS file and driver updated?

[@asono11]

@ I have it as performance. Yes, DLSS and driver are up to date Edit: Apparently, the latest update to FS2024 lanucher rolled back DLSS to the original version. I have now swapped it with the latest and things improved a little bit, however performance is still far worse than with the scaling param set to 1.0 (and DLSS set to quality). I think I'm gonna stick with my original settings, but thank you anyways!

[@the_primetime2187]

Do you have a video of why it lags when landing on takeoff it’s fine but when I reach my destination it lags

[@ztublackstaff]

I did this and my framerate dropped to to less than 10…. :(