This barn is filled with NIGHTMARE FUEL

[@fedoraman8967]

Can we all appreciate the fact that this man stood in a freezing cold forrest for 17 minutes to tell us this story

[@mastercaon5209]

@@princessmaryam6148 that's the joke (please read in arnold Schwarzenegger voice)

[@I_am_a_cat_]

Shiiiit, I wish I was in that cold forest. Looks nice. So long as I had a warm cabin or something to go to afterwards, lol.

[@josephgillilan3548]

It's hot snow so he isnt cold

[@dianekay8771]

😂😀🤣🤪

[@terracolunga1923]

It's ok. He's wearing flanel.

[@BillyBoland]

It's getting more difficult to find one of these Ballen vids I haven't already watched.

[@GrandPrix46]

Luckily he uploads 3, 4, even 5 times a week.

[@kimmyreed9987]

Me too and it makes me sad. Lol!

[@lovingit4450]

Yes me also. My son says he always finds new ones I'll be darned if I can

[@donnasells3663]

Me to I’ve watched all of them to where’s the new vids at

[@dahobogod]

I'm running into the problem that only the really scary ones are left now!

[@grumpyoldwizard]

#1 rule I learned on this channel is “if you think someone is in your house, or your kid says someone is in your house, they ARE”.

[@onlookerofthings6029]

I had a new house built and the wood's still settling sometimes (not as much as before) and every time it sounded like a freaking footstep. Nothing moved and there weren't any other noises or signs of a break-in but damn I was paranoid

[@findy0uinanotherlife363]

Uhhhg.. house is right next to a train station and woods... well a very old train station.. and very very used!!! The house is NOT even like 10-12 years old either... I know what you mean, being unsettled.. and creepy.. already the doors on the left side of the house seem crooked from the right side of the house, too, 🤔🤨. . .

[@skytyme7721]

Right

[@morelhunter3966]

@Onlooker of things - dont worry they are only watching you...for now.

[@MsMelvindoo]

Yep, number one rule, get the hell out, now!!!😱

[@jamesdb5596]

This happened literally about 7 miles away from where I live here in rural Bavaria and remains a big mystery to this day. Well told MrBallen - very captivating!

[@jennifervolden4611]

Have you ever gone & looked around there? Is there a new family living there now?

[@JCHIZ03]

What do the locals think happened?

[@rebel4466]

@@jennifervolden4611 the whole thing was demolished shortly after this happened. So it's gone since before the second world war. Nobody wanted anything to do with the place.

[@rebel4466]

@@JCHIZ03 Locals are pretty much all over the place, just like everyone hearing about the story. The investigation was badly done. Even for the time. There are stories about the father smuggling/hiding weapons for paramilitary troops and some issues around that. Some theories involve the father of the Grubers killing the family, there is talk about incest and Andreas Gruber being the dad of his own grandchild (the killed 2 year old Josef). Or the whole stuff around that at least being the reason for what happened. The victims being covered up is another thing that people find really strange. Covering bodies is usually done by people close to the victims. In this case it could also have been to hide what happened, as it looked like someone stayed in the house for some time afterwards. If someone wanted to rob the place, hiding what happened could have been a good option. Someone who wasn't part of the family or the local area couldn't have known who would show up while they're still in there, searching for valuables. Those are the most discussed theories. Sadly, due to the lacking investigation and collection of evidence, every theory is more or less credible.

[@mieziskanalxxx6965]

@@jennifervolden4611 They tore it down many years ago.

[@josecharles2940]

I found mr.ballen randomly and been watching all of his videos for 4 days now who can relate ?

[@BobbyJohnPhil]

can relate

[@nestoralvinpineda2758]

Can really relate

[@Tat2dGothic]

Yup but I'm so glad I did.

[@EMTevjorgensen]

I've become addicted to Mr. Ballen's stories. He's a great story teller!

[@musicisgoodforthesoul999]

🙋‍♀️

[@mizera_mykle]

Best part of John's storytelling is how his voice softens when speaking of those who died. I doubt he's even aware of it because I believe it is a natural part of his good and kind soul.

[@jk1nz3r]

yes! you can tell that he is genuinely sympathetic for those who lost their lives. it doesn’t seem like he knows he’s doing it but it really shows how kind and wholesome he is about hard stories to tell.

[@anthonygruner2670]

Totally. I love when he says “they had perished” instead of “they had died”.

[@fabianatrindade56]

I noticed that too. That's one of many reasons why we love him 😊❤️

[@mvlad8725]

Absolutely! His expressions are always incredibly sincere. His time as a SEAL clearly did not harden him in the wrong ways, nor make him jaded (like SO many marines I've known). Isn't he just the type of guy you want to have around as a good friend? ☺

[@ellie8375]

@@mvlad8725 absolutely!! he would be SUCH a good friend

[@thespicyswede9302]

“Nightmare fuel” me: yeah I’ll watch this one before going to bed, no problem

[@goldenfitnezz972]

*gets nightmares*

[@Andrew-pd4xv]

Same😂

[@howbout-it3520]

Everytime!

[@luisdiaz3255]

You go to bed at 6

[@Michael-tb1dn]

Same

[@jeanajewell2169]

I think whoever killed the family may have known more about the house than anyone who was living there at the time. Alot of those old houses had secret passages in the walls.

[@larrymitchell4024]

Exactly I bet he never left

[@MikadoYuma]

You'd think the cops or the people living there would have already checked if there was a possibility of anything living in the walls though.. its the first thing you'd check if you heard stuff in the walls constantly.

[@supergirl4566]

No these old German farmhouses are super small for today standards. There were no possibilities for spaces between rooms in the walls. There are still some of these old buildings existing and if you‘d see them you‘d know 😊

[@friendlyreptile9931]

We are not talking about the US. German houses are build way different and those old houses also had no hollow walls :D

[@cojanemanuel8319]

European houses don't have crawl spaces like the ones from USA.

[@LordKiwii]

"The killer slept in their beds and ate their food...." clearly it was a homicidal goldilocks!

[@marinegunny826]

Hmm. This mattock is too heavy. This one is too light. Hey! This one is just right!😂🤣😂

[@BrookeDervin]

😂😭

[@leonblum816]

It was Snow White

[@Catlover-jr4mj]

Yeah I thought the same!

[@miguelbarabar3965]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@annerugh9013]

I literally go to sleep listening to MrBallen. Such a wonderful story teller with an inexplicably soothing voice, despite the stories subject material! Thank you, sir, for your stories.

[@Mazerunnerfan3214]

Yep that’s me too! And also while I drive

[@genso3065]

no nightmares? haha

[@enochstaiffan1068]

I did this and woke up because I got a nightmare, I legit forgot for a couple of seconds where I was....not a fun feeling

[@adap4551]

Me too!!!!!

[@teatimecreams]

Weirdly I listen too when I go to bed ... I never have bad dreams, his voice is so soothing :)

[@casabonita2702]

I just found him and I can't stop I come home from work every night for my stories. He's helping me through a very difficult time. Thank you.

[@aaronh678]

Hope you're alright. If you feel things are way out of control there is help out there. Please use it and don't do anything drastic.

[@lakuli7786]

You watching these every NIGHT?

[@aaronh678]

@@lakuli7786 I used to as well but have had to stop lol

[@lakuli7786]

@@aaronh678 fr me too

[@aaronh678]

@@lakuli7786 Makes them bumps in the night even more scarier 😅.

[@MastaK31]

Absolutely love rewatching the old videos. Thank you for being you.

[@vodka2432]

I’m a real big fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format 3-4 times a week. 👍

[@jjoaocostalima]

Sometimes 5 ... Eheh

[@Joel-vk3cf]

I laughed, good one

[@samueldubose8480]

It’s “dark, strange, and mysterious delivered in story format ....... 3 to 4 times a week.” I love the fact that he’s so consistent with his timing getting into the stories. It’s almost 30 seconds every time!!

[@anthonyrichards1582]

@@jjoaocostalima ⁹

[@srabonhasan3467]

Cool... Me too... 👍

[@isaiasserrano3359]

Did they ever ask why the dog didn’t bark if the killer was in the house? Maybe it’s because the dog knew the person very well and didn’t feel threatened by him/her

[@Coughing_Blood]

of course they did, they aren't American investigators, besides the fact that not every dog barks at strangers.

[@isaiasserrano3359]

@@Coughing_Blood he literally said that when the worker went to the house the dog started barking at him

[@Coughing_Blood]

@@isaiasserrano3359 and the dog knew the worker, so same argument

[@isaiasserrano3359]

@@Coughing_Blood bruh he is a worker. The dog probably don’t even know him well, thats why he barked. That kind of makes him a stranger for the dog. Plus don’t come talking about dogs to me when you have a cat as a profile pic xD. Get your cat loving ass out of here hahahaha

[@Coughing_Blood]

@@isaiasserrano3359 that's the point, the dog knew him and he still barked, proof that one can't say for sure if the person is known to the dog or not - will make it bark or not.

[@Alfreder28272]

Officers: Sir, why did you burn down, your own house? Me: There was tapping in the walls

[@amandawalski4407]

OMG! 🤣

[@krtm7231]

Your two comments are top liked. Congratz dude. Btw, one question . . . Do you know how to get to the Bells canyon?

[@thecomedypilot5894]

@@krtm7231 😂😂😂😀

[@bruh1521]

Plot twist: Officer: Sir, why did you burn your house down? Me: I could hear Rick Astley singing never gonna

[@dylanholmes1985]

@@krtm7231 I knew that was coming and I wasn't disappointed!!! Hahaha

[@donnaplant8139]

This chanel is the healthiest addiction I've ever had! Not only that, it actually helped me to fight all my other demons and addictions! Thanks John, you are an absolute legend 💕

[@juanpabloberdiapfeifer9565]

Reminds me of that case of the guy that was living in the walls of a house and faked being a ghost to scare the family, but unlike that one this one went ahead and killed the family at the end of his fake haunting. (The other guy got caught, went to jail, and when he got out he went and killed another family, so it's reasonable to believe that people that live in your walls and haunt you are potential murderers)

[@dr.floridaman4805]

Wall people are mentally unstable

[@stevem.o.1185]

You mean Scooby Doo?

[@haleigh1008]

Yes, that's so funny because I was just watching that video.

[@christinapomponio6452]

@@brainderp808 🤣🤣🤣🤣 perfect

[@soxpeewee]

Kinda sounds like the repair guy did it

[@wendigo1725]

Bro those photos you show randomly in the story give me a heart attack everytime

[@exploitedfight8081]

Me too! Like this one at 3:40

[@wendigo1725]

@@exploitedfight8081 especially that one

[@maxsteele3686]

Grow some balls

[@Luka-DanteGodofMischief]

@@maxsteele3686 dude get over yourself..even marines get scared tf.. it’s a human emotion.

[@jrchmgn.]

Yes! I always look away but the 1 second glimpse is enough to put me in shock.

[@coreysmith6604]

Major Plot Twist: Some houses that were built in the late 1800s (particularly farmhouses) had walls wide enough for you to walk between. And typically, these 2 story houses with attics have spaces you can crawl down (from the attic) to where you end up between the walls. Now, imagine someone (a previous property owner, the original maid, a complete stranger, etc.) stalking the family from between the walls that lead through different passages ways, completely undetected because the only way in or out was covered by a latch door made to look like floorboards located in the attic.

[@MISTAKEWASMADE4live]

Before completely demolishing the building they did in fact find a hidden compartment in the attic with a bloody mattock and a knife. I have no doubt it was a person stalking them within the walls, who it was though is hard to say, although circumstances would point to either the neighbor or maid, this wouldn't make a lot of sense, why reveal their cards by calling it out or offering a gun? I think it was someone unknown.

[@julianeder3383]

@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live I disagree with the unknown person theory. 4 of the familymembers trusted the perpetrator enough to follow him into the barn alone so the guy was either a good friend family member or he was dressed like a cop. Also he would have had troubles finding the crawlspace in the attic or a place where he could lie low without beein detected which indicates that he had knowledge of the general layout of the house. Think about the people who your entire family would trust without any second thoughts in my case there would be a handful of close relatives and maybe about 3 family friends

[@hiredgun3098]

@@julianeder3383 I believe it was someone they knew as well

[@drdrip2349]

Aye did u just watch the boy movie bruh

[@rowenkylee5627]

Why did they have such huge empty spaces in the walls? I've seen such houses and walked in the walls when I was a kid. As a kid I loved those. Excellent houses for hide and seek. Was it a form of heating isolation? Those walls usually had several access points through out the house and also under the house. Even houses today that are very old that people still live in have those. Usually found in a closet behind a door or behind a furniture completely open, no covering what so ever. Imagine by accident dropping something behind a furniture, you reach for it and glance into that open space and seeing eyes looking back at you. That gives me crazy chills.

[@VexRavenhardt]

If this man were to make merch that said "I'm a fan of the dark, strange and mysterious delivered in story format" it'd sell out SO FAST

[@tzar_nicholasii]

When I first discovered this channel, I was just like oh its that Tiktok guy. No big deal. Now after a month of videos, I look forward to every upload. Keep it up man

[@MrBallen]

Thanks for sticking around I appreciate that!

[@andrewg6477]

Same i look forward to the videos i come home and check if there are any new videos makes a good start to a relaxing afternoon and i haven't done that before with any channel

[@johngordon1]

Same😂 keep up the good work MrBallen. You’re one of the only people I like to watch on KZbin

[@texadonkey34]

Needs to send the wifey on vacation and make 40 videos for us. Lol

[@clan31337]

ive been following many channels on youtube covering this type of content and mrballen is now my favorite by far. i too look forward to every new upload. so much that this is only channel i turn on notifications lol

[@Alfreder28272]

Kids at the campfire: Tell is a scary story MrBallen: Ok Kids: *Have nightmares for 2 full weeks*

[@tub3watcher]

He starts with, "Okay, see, there's this ex-SEAL and he takes this bunch of kids out camping, and they ask for a scary story, not realizing they are about to become one."

[@vionafernandes4619]

@@tub3watcher 😂😂This is great

[@Karen-kj7wc]

@Bob Haynes I think you would be a good story teller. This is epic 👀 lol.

[@frankwest4003]

what??

[@oliviabob1688]

This is so true. I love to binge his channel and I always get so paranoid about everything after.

[@thetaylorcooper5588]

some of the pictures with him narrating scare the living shit out of me. 😭

[@BostonAmy]

OMG. Me too. I had to stop watching his Tick Tok short stories. The pictures he edits in give me the chills. Sometimes I angle my hand over the background so I can't see the pictures. They stay with me all day😱

[@dancasey9410]

IKR

[@MissOhio1980]

Yes.

[@regeenlol9344]

Yeah, some are really scary, sometimes I have to look away when pics come up. I dont want to give my imagination super good references to create illusions in piles of clothes on chair

[@BostonAmy]

@@regeenlol9344 I thought it was only me 😂

[@beardo6229]

I have a feeling it was the original maid. She was the only one at first who heard the sounds. After she "left" others started to hear the sounds. She knew the house, she knew the dogs, she probably left and received the newspaper and left it out that day. Her voice calling from inside the barn wouldn't have raise any alarm. That took used to kill them would not have taken any force to swing downward, it's really all gravity driven. Plus she probably was pretty strong due to the basic labor requirements back then... But that's just my two cents

[@yvehooson9262]

Why do people keep pointing the finger at the maid? Makes no sense. If you were planning to murder the family you are working for why would you spend months going on about hearing tapping and people moving in the attic then LEAVE the job? Seems a weird set up for mass murder, she'd have to go back there, months later, to a remote farm. Any woman working as a live in maid back in the 1920's would need to find another position straight away, she would be living and working there when the murders took place, surely? Plus female killers usually poison their victims, walloping them in the head with a heavy axe like tool does not seem very likely for a woman.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

@@yvehooson9262 Depends on how mad she might have been i guess If you get the right person mad enough....

[@gazXspace]

Its highly unlikely a woman would commit this sort of crime - to just take out that many people including children - I don't see it - especially the way it was done - incredibly difficult

[@C.Church]

@@yvehooson9262 Yep. And these are the consequences of rewriting stories based in history to be inclusive. It leads everyone of a certain age or mentality to think everyone had agency back then. The neighbor was accused, and he lived RIGHT THERE and had motive, but simple reasoning "Well we saw him all the time. No way he could be over there" ruled him immediately out. Oh, but the working-class woman in the 20's could just flitter around Germany commuting to work from murder. Creative writing classes have also taught generations that "if you can think it, it is valid".

[@daughterofpb]

Lizzy Borden

[@thedorkylab2729]

Killer: kills a whole family Also killer: plays with dog *Priorities*

[@januaryparrish3150]

*Priorities indeed*

[@chandracox6814]

Damn straight!

[@mirandawade3362]

I can’t totally hate the murder for this very reason.

[@mgaming11011]

I must tell you if i were to murder someone who has a dog i would take it with me

[@Ximtowin]

Dog ain’t getting touched humans Yh they can go not the dogs 😭

[@HTFWSFWWE]

Mr Ballen: talking about tapping in the walls My apartment walls: chooses that exact moment to creak from the cold.

[@Kriegsman457]

F

[@HTFWSFWWE]

@@Kriegsman457 Thank you for paying respects, also JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the shit! 👍

[@Righandwelder1202]

“From the cold “ sure... whatever you say

[@HTFWSFWWE]

@@Righandwelder1202 Don't make me more paranoid than these videos already have! 😱

[@HTFWSFWWE]

@Draugr 👏🤣

[@shahd7439]

This man never fails to make me scared and happy at the same time lol Edit: dang thanks for the likes ❤️❤️

[@bradyfranz4702]

Same

[@Erxt.33]

Yeah he Never Fails

[@JWitt30]

💯 this is one of my new favorite channels, only one of a very small handful of channels that I actually put notifications on for.

[@lilmunk6849]

Yeet

[@Name-oz4lq]

You don’t really have a lot of likes yet, dear...

[@adogshope7399]

Dark, strange and Mysterious. You know it’s an older video if Ballen doesn’t say it this way “so if you’re a fan of the strange dark and mysterious, you’ve come to the right place because that’s all we do…” ❤

[@siegfriedo]

MrBallen, I believe in giving credit where it is due, so... I have watched many of your YT vids so far and wanted to say that you are a very likeable and gifted narrator. Your style of delivery is civil in the best sense of word, yet not boring at all, you have a really good way with words and an acute sense of just a proper amount of emotional charge in your presentations. Your content always sucks me in completely and it feels like I am right there, living through the story as if it was my own experience. The stories are well resourced and structured. Last but not least I especially appreciate that you do not use any sound or visual effects and rely only on yourself and you content without any embellishment, which is a sign of a confident author. Keep up the good work! PS: Also your clear and easily understandable accent and articulation makes it a pleasure to listen to for me as a non-native English speaker. :)

[@sabrinafelber]

Here! Here! Well said sir!👏👏👏👏

[@marievaleur7877]

As an English as a second language teacher I share his videos with my students for the same reasons!

[@MoonPhaze5]

I totally agree. 💎

[@evanchambers5773]

Is this your English class essay that you accidentally put into mr.ballens comments? Joking i could put more XD

[@sujonray9888]

Totally agreed. Very well said. Also well placed ad breaks generally - and not too many

[@sunnyredpanda6899]

this guy is literally the only youtuber that i have notifications turned on.

[@FailingArtist]

Samesies

[@falconsroost58]

Nukes Top 5 is cool too.

[@joshuaburkhart6243]

The maid leaving when she did was the best decision of her life lol

[@trublu3483]

Worst decision of the family's because she obviously did it. The dog and kids trusted the murderer. The fact that the 7 year old didn't die right away suggests she couldn't swing that hard. I wonder if the 7 year old was last and the murderer was fatigued from swinging and dragging other bodies. Those detectives are idiots

[@amarreezlan7131]

@@trublu3483 looked up the case before deducing something obvious, the leaving maid was at other country when this incident happened.

[@brendan6747]

@@trublu3483 LMAO even the most fit, battle hardened soldier would have a hard time committing this crime after like a year of living in someone's walls and surviving on food scraps. The fact that the killer tried to hack into the tool shed with brute force proves its a violent man and not the maid. The maid had access to all of the keys in the house and spent hours alone with the kids, she was in the perfect position to plan out something horrible. The truth is that she probably did chores her whole life and helped raise countless children. She had more sensibility than we could possibly know. It told her to leave the farm because the stranger was in the home, and leave Germany because the economy was in the tank

[@zeldafletcher2095]

My theory: someone was living in the house, in the attic, and knew the family’s schedule… and waited for the right time to kill the whole family because they realized they were catching on. Because even after they were killed, the farm was still kept up and animals were being fed. This person either knew this family very well, or had studied them really well. Back at that time, there was no way to know. And most people were skeptical.. just an overall interesting story and chilling also

[@MessianicMermaid]

Yeah. Serial killers will hunt their victims through weeks or even years of stalking and memorizing routines before they strike. No forensics in the 1920s.

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

Seeing how this was right after WW1, an ex soldier can acquire these skills, & cover his tracks, a farm in that era is a near perfect target. The fixation on this family tho, that's the missing piece

[@daughterofpb]

Who owned the farm before them?Maybe the family of an ex WWI soldier who was messed up from war.

[@ameybirulkar7503]

But there was nowhere to hide in the attic? And they checked the attic so how can he just vanish?

[@brendan6747]

​@@ameybirulkar7503 There must've been a hidden passage between the attic and the walls. Talking to himself in the attic, taunting the family and brutal violence without remorse sounds like a psychopath. I can only imagine how easy it would be for a psychopathic soldier to defect and continue sneaking into Germany to seek bloody revenge on Germans. I bet he was watching the family through slats in the walls while he was tapping, learning how they investigate and obsessing over his hatred towards them. If the killer spoke German I believe the family's ears would've picked up on the disembodied voice much easier and recognized it as human, but because he was speaking a foreign language they would've had a really hard time discerning between it being a person whispering nearby or just some unusual sounds of creaking, mice, snoring, etc.

[@connerisnotreal7107]

Even if you've heard the story's mr ballen tells before you listen to his version, his re telling of the story is always better because he serves the story justice and researches it,

[@b0ne91]

The only issue I have with this is him not going into all the suspects as well as cheating, lying and suspected bastard children.

[@markbender4133]

@@b0ne91 ????

[@b0ne91]

@@markbender4133 Read up on it. Wikipedia article alone is a good start

[@byeongcheol5610]

And I've heard that this particular story is extremely difficult to research. Everything is in German, for starters.

[@trinitythex6625]

and he has that soothing voice.

[@ava.and.jasper]

If I ever hear tapping in my walls, I'm going full sledgehammer and taking down all the drywall, no way no way is someone hiding in my house

[@tylerdibenedetto2641]

mag dump into wall, i agree

[@zeetack8625]

Is someone one is living in my walls it would honestly be impressive

[@zeichnerkollege]

Like John Wick getting his weapons and goldcoins...

[@BanaDoyabad]

I'm with u! I'm takin a machete and stabbing the walls. Or using a chainsaw or electrical knife.

[@Lordoftheswollen]

I kept hearing strange noises coming from my ceiling but when I'd walk over to the spot, it sounded like it was coming from a different spot. So could pinpoint where it was coming from. Then I realized "Oh, its just coming out of the vents" after watching this channel now I'm thinking "Who the hell is in my vents?"

[@babayaga4320]

I looked into this case and found something even more disturbing. The 7-year-old daughter found dead in the barn apparently didn't die right away from her injuries, the investigators found clumps of her hair clutched in her hands. The theory is that she laid there for hours, maybe days, right next to her slaughtered family going insane and pulling her hair out before finally dying.

[@kenanbroersma709]

God damn that's.... horrifying. Especially the fact that she wouldn't have any where to go because the killer was living in the house right beside the barn..

[@encyclopediabrown1334]

I dont believe that

[@realcanadiangirl64]

Ugh

[@MetalGearTenno]

That doesn't sound like something a 7yo girl would do. Even in an extreme situation like that. She would run away and hide in fear.

[@legacyrsme]

@@Peaches2456 Poor girl

[@morojkiller5418]

He did something to make them walk to the barn's entrance (maybe left the door open, making them assume one of their family members must have forgotten it open) then he left the missing keys slightly visible inside the barn's floor, so someone closing the door could see it. They then would think: "There they are!" and go retrieve it, but BANG

[@ghetoknight7801]

adds up

[@TripPiper]

“In 1923 Hinterkaifeck was demolished, and during the process someone found a secret cavity under the attic floorboards. Hidden there was a bloody mattock and a penknife.”

[@natemartin3891]

Wtf

[@rejbrodeur7069]

That would explain a lot.

[@tristymturnbull7624]

Wow thanks! Any links by chance?😊

[@mirandawade3362]

😳

[@olschool926]

Called it

[@nwismheuwikall]

When Mr ballen uses the whole English dictionary to find new ways to smash like

[@wgooetrik]

Almost my favorite part 🤣

[@kalebeso2622]

One of the main reasons I like it

[@dymoniquehammond909]

i literally look forward to seeing what he says in every video while I'm binging LOL

[@shurely2559]

I know I love it

[@generalpatton83]

The best!

[@sonianugent6429]

The walls were probably the kind that a person could fit inside. They were made that way back then, Especially in Europe. We do not know when the house was built. Many houses were built so people could hide in the walls in case of invasion of enemies. Often families buy these houses not knowing the interior walls are hollow. There are are also secret rooms in some of them. I would say it was someone that knew the history of the house, that or they found the the original blueprints. It was definitely a human. A spirit would not need food or fire or would it play with the dog.

[@bobbyhill3323]

On the one hand, dogs don't usually react well to spirits. On the other hand, humans typically leave footprints that go all the way from point A to point B. I'm gonna say human with a ghost accomplice.

[@baileydombroskie3046]

I’ve never heard of interior walls being wide enuf to hide inside. I know that in my country, Canada, the interior walls back then were often made of a single layer of 1” lumber that was vertical and was only secured by nails on the ceiling and floor. So they were never very strong but as interior walls they didn’t need to be.

[@therealchris]

Nope, never heard of this, never seen this (and I've seen lots of german farmhouses) and it makes absolutely no sense to hide inside of a wall if your house is occupied by an enemy. plus it makes absolutely no sense to reduce your living space by building 2 meter thick walls. it was very common to build double skin exterior walls (since the roman empire) but surely not wide enough to fit somebody inside.

[@rottweilerfun9520]

I agree , it was a person, spirits don't exist. Like Scooby-Doo do says " The Monsters are always human."

[@natashameyers249]

@@therealchris how does it not make sense?

[@aaronv251]

It’s crazy to see how far Mr Ballen has come from this video to today. Everything from sound quality to delivery of information. You’ve grown leaps and bounds from the beginning and your sub count reflects that growth !!

[@someoneout-there2165]

He started off with 0 subs. But now has over 7.5 MILLION! That's more than most TV shows. But honestly I think his stories are creepy and presented in a way that makes them better than most horror movies.

[@ASMRsoapandbeyond]

Such a tragedy. I always wondered if this could be someone living in a secret room they didn’t know they had? Have they questioned the “like” button?

[@kelamine183]

😂😂😂

[@EpicUnivers]

there is a website about this case which suggests that the father Andreas Gruber was the murder with hard evidence that supports that claim

[@ASMRsoapandbeyond]

@@EpicUnivers wow, I wouldn’t be surprised. What’s the website? I’ll have to check it out.

[@EpicUnivers]

@@ASMRsoapandbeyond it is in german

[@WinstonMcGaver]

I was thinking something similar the entire time, ESPECIALLY after learning of the footprints leading TOWARDS the home. If it were me, after seeing the trail of footprints leading ONLY towards the home, I would not have stopped searching my home until I found the person whom those footprints belonged to.

[@ttvorcao9110]

*”Nightmare fuel”* KZbin at 3AM: So you wanna watch this?? me: whatever sure.

[@mrsmith9748]

Same 👄

[@sheajackson4616]

On foe nem

[@shadowrealm6]

@@sheajackson4616 on foe nem grave

[@janmariemixon7039]

Must have been a very strong old maid to move that many bodies around

[@cryptic3686]

3:52am, i got school tomorrow.

[@nurim.4439]

The old times crimes were really creepy.

[@georgehays4908]

.....yeah 1974 was really scary ! 😆

[@bageltortilla4057]

And like the 1920s and a lot other times in the 1900s

[@CameronCajun]

That is the strangest sentiment of nostalgia I've ever heard.🤔 I love it! 🤭 YOU WIN!! 🎊 (I don't have anything for you, though... 😔)

[@jessicahooker8133]

Way too true

[@andrewovermyer4345]

I think that crimes today are just as creepy, but today a lot of the info is kept hidden, unlike back in those day's they would show pictures of everything in the paper and on the news, they censored everything now, it all started around the late 90s when they started to censor everything.

[@sandyrautenbach6195]

Great story John but DAMN! Those creepy pics you threw in were spine chilling..... I found myself pushing my phone away as far as I could so it wouldn't feel so ghostly.... Freaked out pretty much now😧

[@ilovetomholland5282]

Omg same. I thought I was the only one. They freaked me out. This whole story is very mysterious

[@ch42zyb0y]

Yeah, it's kind of mean

[@Scoutsweat]

Maybe it was the maid? She was the first one to hear those supposed voices, and her quitting could’ve been an attempt to rule herself out as a suspect. Perhaps the family mistreated her, and this was her revenge. Since she was the house maid, that would also mean that she had good knowledge of the layout of the house, and perhaps a secret entrance to the walls. It’s also weird that when she heard the voices, no one else heard them. But when Andreas heard them, the rest of the family did so to.

[@jimmyparris9892]

Exactly.

[@VividBoi]

Plus, more than likely the murderer would have to be someone who was regularly there, as the dog was obviously comfortable around them.

[@LivyRivy]

It would make sense if it was someone they knew, if they were so easily lured out to the barn.

[@10RexTheWolf01]

@@VividBoi All dogs are not aggressive many are just friendly. Plus since that person was living in the walls how can we be sure they didn't just tempt the dog with food to trick it?

[@marquitafossee1150]

Exactly. Wonder if she was investigated. Back in the day women weren't usually suspected.

[@mariewoodward9837]

I love the way MrBallin tells his stories. Beautiful voice & so expressive. No silliness, just pure story telling. Easy on the eye too 🥰

[@alexandraday6721]

Just one eye?

[@chynnadoll3277]

👍😁❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@suzannefranklin7946]

Gift of holding attention.

[@milham76]

Definitely agree...on all counts.

[@kkt96]

Marie please 😂😂😂

[@anthonyCM20]

So the guy that serviced the feeder never got paid? Truly a terrifying ordeal.

[@franknberry333]

That was first thought!!!!

[@yourdashingheroidol7909]

Actually, I read in the "Weekly world news" that after the tragedy, he would stop by the site each morning, to collect his........FREE NEWSPAPER.....and heck yeah it was a YEAR's subscription! That combined with the embellished story he would tell any tourist that would listen, which had him dealing street justice to the perpetrators(a coven of devil worshipping werewolves) of the crime were his payment for his 10 minutes of work. There may have been a maniacal murderer on the loose, but this guy made out like a bandit! Am I right, gang? .......

[@laynenadon9694]

Hahahahahaha. Love it!

[@jasper25445]

I love your comment!! Had to laugh!!

[@idontreadyourreplies]

Legend says his family is still fighting to receive compensation for the tragic, unpaid service. #breadforbobtheworker

[@Krexa]

The dark... Strange, and mysterious, delivered in story... Format? You've come so far ❤️

[@dirkdiggler7964]

The killer was on the roof. That’s why she keep hearing something in the attic. And that’s why the footprints went up to the house but nowhere else

[@angelgonzalez5307]

Yooo that makes so much sense that’s why nobody was in the attic 👀

[@progamer-xh8oz]

What about them starting at the tree line?

[@shirleyvanessa5333]

I'm sure that one video about this mentioned that there was a goat looking footprint in the roof. Also,whatever it was,could've also climbed down the trees.

[@harrykadaras9459]

@@progamer-xh8oz who and exactly how were the 'footprints' reported on? The father and family were dead 4 days before the police arrived and started investigating. That would mean the neighbor reported that detail, and he must have remembered being told about them by the father. I dont believe that's any rock-solid proof of these foot prints in the snow at all...and the picture could not be of the actual footprints the father saw...unless he took that picture himself they same day they were made - highly unlikely.

[@gloriatranchina6333]

Nice.

[@emiliorodriguez6117]

It actually goes “strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format” (trust me I’m from the future)

[@ghosty2k3]

If you are from future tell me what's going to happen in 2030 give me a answer or a ghost will haunt you

[@emiliorodriguez6117]

@@ghosty2k3 in 2030 we will have reverse engineered UFOs that will provide us with breakthroughs beyond what was humanly possible. The president of the US will be very ambitious and attempt to become the first president of Mars. Elon musk will have created a version of the starship that can not only land on Mars but will be able to land without destroying its landing legs. China will have figured out how to use fusion in order to make an artificial sun to terraform Mars. By the year 2034, many nations will fall into turmoil over humanitarian war crimes, territory, and technological advances. By 2042 WW3 begins. By 2045 I travel back in time. My real name is Phil, Phil of the future

[@emiliorodriguez6117]

@Kenzie Waltz thank u!! I just talked about things that were in development now that I hope are going to exist in that time frame accept the ww3 stuff

[@billybouncer]

@@ghosty2k3 deez

[@ghosty2k3]

@@emiliorodriguez6117 Like really bro? You want me to believe that?

[@Lurker404]

I legit just listened to this yesterday on a crime podcast called Casefile. It’s over an hour long and goes into heaps of detail. It’s spooky

[@ibrahim_-_-_]

Can u link it

[@Iris-uf6qs]

podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/casefile-true-crime/id998568017?i=1000449745044

[@henrytibo2673]

thank you!! now I have a new podcast to liten to.

[@breezy3725]

Thank you, just listened to that...sure sounds like Lorenz, the neighbor's son and father of Victoria's little boy, was the killer. What do you think? I think he has the most motive, and even his brother thought he was guilty.

[@skylarbeverage168]

I started watching a bunch of your videos and was covering most of the new ones. I’m glad I checked these older ones out. Hitting the like button with a 360 no scope was not what I anticipated hearing. That got a huge laugh out of me!

[@Buggsjustice]

Bro it is literally almost 12:00 am that face scared the shit out of me

[@oriondragonstar7057]

Shiit like that is the reason i dont Watch these vids just listen

[@joemomma4300]

FAX

[@washingmachine4802]

3:36

[@dawsynlarson696]

Bro... which one ?? 😭😭

[@nicolaaro9752]

😂😂 it scared shiet outta me too! 😭😂

[@avkinidee]

Addicted 24/7 … I’m an 80s baby raised in the 90’s since I’ve lost tales from the crypt, MrBallin is my go to

[@soniahernandez89]

You just gave me a great idea, they should definitely give him a tales of a crypt show where he narrates through out each episode and all the stories should be true

[@annabellethedoll]

Same! 80s baby raised in the 90s! Loved tales from the crypt

[@indiashante1560]

Same here. We had Tales From The Crypt and Are You Afraid Of The Dark. Lol

[@mattiadiprofio4789]

Mr ballen sending clear signals in his videos “do not buy a farm”

[@maryannanderson7517]

I was actually raised on a farm but our farm was so small that it came without the crazy person in the attic or the axe murderer in the barn. Fortunately.

[@tayloranderson7547]

Do n buy a farm

[@uhya3094]

Melinda Pelfrey I don’t know how to read!

[@shayla592]

Me: *lives on a farm where there’s an old run down shed from the 1800’s that never been opened because the steel door is welded shut* Me: “oh no” 👁 👄 👁

[@Ayane_Mizu]

My family having a farm and they always leave me alone in the farm because I want to see if someone suspicious enters our land: 👀

[@VanillaUchiha56]

It is so cool to look back at older videos and see the amount of growth! Absolutely love your videos!❤

[@jean-luchidalgo5774]

Did the police ever investigate whether there were passages within the walls and such for someone to stealthily make their way throughout the house?

[@athelwulfgalland]

That's what I was sort of thinking. This was post-WW1 Germany, there were lots of destitute military vets with nowhere to go and no way to make ends meet. I'm sure many of them were suffering from PTSD, felt abandoned and potentially could have been capable of coming unhinged. That having been said there's the issue with the dog. The dog was not at all bothered by this intruder which suggests a fair level of familiarity with whoever was getting into their house. There are too many missing variables to come to a concrete solution to that question. There's no indication of how frequently the neighbor visited. We never heard what became of the former live in maid. We never learned more backstory as to why the man in the family was so intensely disliked, if there were any estranged family members, etc.

[@dreadtrain2846]

@@athelwulfgalland Lots of dogs are fine with strangers.

[@kuschlpu]

Personally, I think its unlikely because houses here are built rock solid with bricks and concrete. So we usually have no crawl spaces or hollow walls to hide in.

[@daturavalentine6773]

@@athelwulfgalland some dogs will bark at a stranger until the stranger actually gets close then they submit and calm down. i mean think about it, how many times has a dog barked at you but done nothing when you're actually around them?

[@kylejarmolych]

@@athelwulfgalland I wonder if it was the first maid

[@binaseminov3491]

And, I have abandoned all my house chores and wifey duty and listened to Mr. John Ballen for 12 hours straight. You, Sir, are addictive.

[@robinwhetstone]

That's funny, it's the complete opposite for me. The ONLY reason my house is clean is Mr. Ballen. Before I found his channel, my life was falling apart! But now, the dishes are washed, the clothes are folded and put away, the house is tidy...I actually look forward to chores because I'll be able to listen. THANKS, MR. BALLEN!

[@friendlyman9032]

Mee too ha ha..only about 6 hours a night for the last week..

[@therealmouseymouse]

I got most of my house painted thanks to Mr Ballen

[@ManafestoRah]

​@@robinwhetstone I listen at work makes work enjoyable. Something it is not lol

[@ARejectedInjuredHowlingLimping]

@@robinwhetstone 😮 I Literally just said to myself I noticed the same thing 😮 it seems the more I clean and throw away, inanimate objects leaves eggs or ghosts and they multiply indefinitely.

[@repeatitwithme4481]

That was a thought out planned attack/raid. Precise and tactical and the killer’s confidence is displayed from them living in the home.

[@Sonnie125]

The further you dig into the story you realize the father was the real demon , and real life horrors were happening within the house …. The daughter was getting molested by her controlling devious father … Incest was proven in court and both were convicted. So the child was the result of incest … The father would also be uncontrollably aggressive as well … I’ve got a feeling there is a lot more to the story and the sad events were a real life horror rather than spiritual…

[@warpedgenius5182]

maybe but seems like an outsider still killed EVERYONE doesnt sound like a murder suicide everyone else got hit and the father shot himself . even if true just still sounds hella odd

[@tiffanymarieelizabeth]

Omg I was wondering why the granddaughter’s father or daughter’s husband was never mentioned. That’s sick. And for the murder suicide theory, how would Andreis hit himself in the head with an ax thing?

[@warpedgenius5182]

@@tiffanymarieelizabeth no kidding only way that would be is if he hit them and like shot himself or something not that .but i just think it was some real person that hid undetected and killed them . science methods werent that great so i believe the ease of such things back then

[@stevenbayhi1374]

Hey... That real

[@ThePointlessBox_]

@@tiffanymarieelizabeth the daughters husband died in WW1 that was taking place. One theory was that his death was unconfirmed and he found out about the incest so he killed the family

[@Bebe-rn2fh]

Seeing MrBallen's old videos really shows that he's improved so much in terms of his storytelling. He sounds way more confident and fluent now and I'm glad he's improved

[@travelgirl747]

Yes, l was thinking that the other day while watching an older one

[@DaileyShorts]

I've watched from video 3 on to current, and decided I'd go back n rewatch a few just to make sure I hit the like button, and noticed the confidence change myself. Before, he seemed to know what he was doing but was unsure of himself at points etc, especially in the video of that Lars kid from Germany who disappeared after taking off from the airport in Bulgaria. John seemed to be talking like he's talking to himself, almost like a "so he took off right? Because of course he did" etc. But now, it's just pure professional at all times. So much smoother, so much more confidence to deliver the story with the respect and emotion each story deserves. When he feels remorse, you can FEEL it yourself as he talks. He's truly a gifted storyteller.

[@carnuatus]

And doesn't add needless "supernatural" speculation to what is clearly true crime. His research has also obviously improved. He missed a lot of important details about this story (but I still enjoyed the video.)

[@mario-qi3yw]

I think he’s always been really good!

[@cyndimack3527]

@@carnuatus what did he miss?

[@ivanafelquer8530]

MrBallen should definitely get his own Spotify podcast for this kind of stuff ahahah

[@lexiewilliams4042]

Factssss

[@carstrucksntrattors3070]

And so you can’t see the pictures he adds all the time

[@williammcreynolds7107]

Heck yeah I totally agree

[@wtfconziez8190]

New way to kill the like button every episode

[@loud4life920]

I love this one

[@keydesert]

*maniacal laughter*

[@wtfconziez8190]

King Gam3ing same just brought back memories of the black ops 2 days

[@KristyAnn143]

I love that part 😂

[@MrBallen]

😂

[@garretglick299]

I immediately knew this story to an extent before this video! It’s a story that’s just so damn confusing to me and I just kept researching it. Now I can watch him cover it!

[@Lobo_Loco1]

Everybody needs a Mr.Ballen in their camp group to tell amazing stories around the fire.

[@borisjohnsonslostcomb7457]

Ha! People on a whole aren't that deserving

[@justinperry8445]

@@borisjohnsonslostcomb7457 Why not?

[@rebeccacharles2325]

And make sure the car is near so they can speed off and go lol 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 xx

[@nikeonafridge715]

No one: Ballen: “I want u to gently 360 no scope the like button”

[@sabrinafelber]

Yes that was a good one! Seal says what?

[@CZE3]

I liked it cause he said that hahaha

[@danieljohnston2550]

i smiled so big bro. reminiscence.

[@gf920]

Troy Kell it means to gently, Get Recked Noob!!

[@Ulfur6113]

HOLY SHIT! While i read the comment ballen said 360 noscope that like button. What a coincidence

[@amyf6726]

I was actually wondering how long it would take you to put out this video. The story has haunted me ever since I heard about it a few years back. I am sure it was their daughter’s husband who came back to do the killing. I was shocked that this information was not brought up in your video as I have heard it in other versions but clearly if anyone reads my post here that had not hear the story before then recall their daughter Victoria has 2 children. She was married and had one child her husband was called off to war and while he was gone she gave birth to another child. There was a big question about whether the second child was his or if rumors were true that her youngest child was the result of incest with Victoria’s father Andreas. They were told he died in battle but no body was ever found . So there is a possibility that he did survive and just did not get back to his family until after he heard of the local rumors about the second child not being her husbands but rather her father. So possibly he returned to the family farm and decided to kill all of them. This may explain why he kidnapped the oldest child to see her again and decide if she was his or possibly the father’s too. It would explain the unknown newspaper in the family home. It would explain why he stayed there long enough to try to confirm the sexual relationship of his wife and her father. It would explain the keys and footprints up to the home. It would explain why the mattock was likely used on the toolbox lock and the murders too. You see, Andreas made the mattock that was used to murder the family. Almost like spiteful towards the father “I will use the tool you made to kill you and your family”. Creepy big time!!!! Lastly it would explain how he would know the make up of the farm and why he may have stayed and cared for the animals etc. The craziest thing to me is who would want to live in a house even if it be overnight for a week after they lay dead there inside and out in the barn. It doesn’t matter, having dead bodies laying around you as you go about your business is so damn creepy. LOL great job Mr. Ballen keep up the great work!!!!

[@donnaroberts4565]

Ooooh Interesting.. Yes someone who was at war would be used to dead bodies too so would not worry about staying at the property.

[@phoxgames5800]

You would think then that the child who was lost would have been able to recollect that her dad or at least that some strange man had taken her. That is also a long time to hide out on the property or with in the house and not be noticed. My initial thought had been like the one where the teen daughters ex boyfriend lived in their walls and such, but a 1920s German farmhouse I'm not sure if it would be possible to live in the walls. I'm pretty sure they would have been too thin. But it also doesn't come off paranormal with the weapon of choice, so who knows what a soldier of war would know how to do. Thank you for this information.

[@romantichorror5289]

So, the husband would have killed his own child, too, along with everyone else. I don't know...what about the former maid? If she was a psychopath with an axe to grind against the family, she could've killed all of them, children included. They weren't her children, so why not butcher them, too? There have been women who've done some horrible things.

[@charlie2910wsxzaq]

Thats a good point! that would make sense, can i ask where you heard that from. i cant wrap my head around this case and i would love to find other information so if you could send me a link would be much appricated

[@esckeenyah]

Yes!!! Plus some young policemen a few years back decided to check all the evidence one more time and they all agreed that they are 100 % sure who the killer is. But because he is long gone they don't want to ruin their family so they will keep it as a secret.

[@jilltraver69]

Who's still watching in 2024?🙋🏼‍♀️

[@cdk1016]

I've watched every episode and now I'm rewatching from the start again!

[@honeybadgerdontcare4763]

Me

[@adenchams2371]

Me

[@adenchams2371]

​yooooo one day apart @honeybadgerdontcare4763

[@StreamingFacts89]

Me 😊

[@josephnance5935]

I'd be curious to see the blueprints and layout of the house. It's possible that there were certain places between the walls or perhaps ceiling and attic floor that was spacious enough for someone to hide if not live

[@kathryncumberland]

I agree - that has to be it. Ghosts, demons, etc., aren't real so there has to be a corporeal explanation.

[@nicolaricola2491]

true, but also, this person would have had to really know the house well if not even the home owners knew about this! but thats a nice theory, could be true!!

[@brandonpotter4641]

@@kathryncumberland and what would explain the footprints starting from the middle of the woods, tracing back to nowhere? I'm not saying the paranormal is definitely at play here, but the certainty with which you made your statement makes you seem a bit close-minded. Maybe you need to watch more Mr. Ballen videos, lmao

[@kathryncumberland]

@@brandonpotter4641 I've watched all of MrB's videos and I love all of his stories. But good stories don't prove that ghosts exist. The explanation for the fact that there are no return prints is that someone - a flesh and blood human being - entered the house and hid in the walls. As far as where the prints began, either they covered their tracks, the people looking weren't skilled trackers, or that part of the story was added to make it more spooky. This is an old story that's been retold numerous times, after all.

[@brandonpotter4641]

@@kathryncumberland I'm not saying that this story proves they exist. But I'm saying you can't prove they don't exist, so it's silly to speak in absolute terms like your original comment did

[@mcfly7613]

I’m a murder mystery junkie and this is the 1st I’ve heard of this one... thanks again.

[@Whosqism]

Really if heard it a lot

[@kbskbreezy]

I heard about this threw BuzzFeed unsolved mysteries you should check them out

[@MrBallen]

Awesome!

[@Catquick1957]

I've seen other video's about this. there are photo's in them.

[@christopherbreton9981]

The part where the footprints come out of nowhere almost sounds like a Skinwalker Ranch type incident.

[@lexiewilliams4042]

Omg yesss that’s terrifying

[@luckysixteen9361]

I started really thinking too much about that and realized it’s possible for a person to do that. I saw someone put their soles on backwards on man tracker to fuck with the tracker. Maybe they had a spare set and walked back with the backwards soles in the original tracks?

[@1sg.Airhead]

Skinwalker: Sounds *a lot* like Skywalker. You: Has a Star Wars pfp

[@LS-rw9yp]

Ummm, no such things! This isn’t make belief land!

[@sillililli01]

@@LS-rw9yp The first peoples (natives) would say differently, if they talked about such things at all. They all know, lived and grew up with those stories, but, do not like talking about them.

[@rebeccacharles2325]

Omg I cannot go to sleep listening to Mr ballens stories because I have to have the full story and some are absolutely frightening!!!! Wow some are amazing and some are so so so so sad and earrie 🤯 Love listening to Mr ballen he's a legend xx😊👍🏾😻🇬🇧

[@justadragn55]

Note to Self: If you hear tapping in the walls and footsteps in the attic then your neighbor offers you a rifle for protection... ACCEPT THE RIFLE (and ask for extra ammo and any handguns he might have).

[@Jeremyhughes86]

just buy a gun...

[@gw5479]

@@Jeremyhughes86 yeah that would be the most logical solution honestly.

[@MrPingn]

Already got my own thanks. But I wouldn't mind the back up.

[@ticketyboo2456]

But how would a real human fit in the walls??

[@TF80s]

@@ticketyboo2456 It's happened in other cases...there's another story on this channel about another horrifying case.

[@loganwittlief6215]

This is one of my favorite unsolved mysteries ever I know most of the details but watched this anyway because mrballen is amazing

[@JWitt30]

Same

[@JWitt30]

@Grady Smith and you're amazing for saying he's amazing 🙌🏼

[@Name-oz4lq]

Bisco42 that makes you amazing, too 😉

[@finger5664]

@@Name-oz4lq it makes you amazing too

[@loganwittlief6215]

@@finger5664 and this makes all of you amazing for taking time out of your day to call someone else amazing

[@mattd9881]

I actually think it was Viktoria's husband who Ballen didn't elude to in the story. He was claimed to have died in the war but the body was never recovered. Viktoria ended up having her two children with a different man. Husband may have found out & took out the whole family hence why he had no quarrel killing children because they weren't his & a reminder of her betrayal.

[@consuetudinis]

No, the husband died during the 1st World War. The daughter was in fact his biological daughter. Some people assume that it may have been the man who fathered the 2nd child.

[@alysonslaughter3139]

There was a big rumor that Viktoria was having an incestuous affair with her father, in fact she was fined and her father spent a month in jail for it because of the rumors

[@maxxdahl6062]

His military unit confirmed he died, and seen the body.

[@drossi101]

There are a lot of details in this story that can’t possibly be known seeing as how there were no survivors. It just shows how stories will change over the years, this turned into more of a German urban legend. The fact that most info comes from the neighbor is extremely suspicious as well. I’m wondering how extensive a 1920s German police investigation even was.

[@TF80s]

Exactly, the part where they supposedly walked in a trance like state to the barn one by one, as if lured there could not possibly be known.

[@dianeshockey3982]

Exactly

[@angelastewart6584]

I like that he embellishes! It makes for a great story.

[@drossi101]

@@angelastewart6584 He’s not the one embellishing.

[@NippyBooks]

@@TF80s the 'trance like state' is new to me. I never heard about it in any other version of this story. As far as I know, they went one after the other into the barn after the others didn't come back

[@CanadaJai]

I remember another case where they were CONVINCED their house was haunted, but it was actually like their daughter's stalker or something living literally inside the walls. That's the only thing that came to mind, as to why they couldn't find someone hiding in a room or something???

[@macdooly5297]

Mr Ballen actually did a video on this one.

[@Zool2107]

This not happened in the USA, it was in Germany. The architecture is completely different in Europe, there are no walls to hide in, to move around in, to live in. Especially considering that this was 100 years ago, there was no lightweight construction here at that time. Houses are built of stone, brick, adobe, concrete or logs, and the walls are solid.

[@323azteca]

That alone dont explain the footsteps nor the child gone missing.

[@blodwyn32]

🇬🇧🎀🇬🇧 Daughters stalker , yeah . Thats where i thought this was leading to at first .

[@blodwyn32]

@@Zool2107 gOOd PoinT 💜

[@evelynnewstead7166]

I’d be okay with these stories if it wasn’t for the Damn photos every now and then 🙈

[@User678s]

Every time they creep me tf out

[@danajuarez9431]

Tbhh😭

[@redcross6963]

I know, right?! 😳😱

[@tayloranderson7547]

If wants for the damn phot3 every now and then

[@jmac3693]

I've jumped a couple of times when he throws in the deep voice sounds.

[@Bumbblebeegiggles]

First channel I haven’t left watching or got bored of. You are the best @mrballen ❤

[@marksullivan6319]

I've heard this before but there's just something about your personality or story telling capability, whatever it may be that makes the story that much better. Keep up the great content.

[@HardenJohn27]

The story telling seems so passionate to me. I reckon he sounds like he’s telling the story during a camp fire with family and friends instead of KZbin. I’m glad I accidentally bumped into this channel

[@marksullivan6319]

Me too

[@shurely2559]

I just said that too its cool how he tells these stories it draws u in

[@marksullivan6319]

@@shurely2559 indeed it's like I watching a really good movie you wish didn't end lol

[@morgan_t0593]

I need to stop watching these at night, but theyre so entertaining! I'll glafly sacrifice my sleep for these videos! I always almost break my thumb clicking the notification and then the like button, which by the way has been gently 360 no scoped, lol. love the terms man!

[@MrBallen]

Hahaha yessss

[@texadonkey34]

I listen while I’m sewing mask all day. Always daylight when I hear these creepy stories.

[@1ty0n]

Plot Twist: The maid made up hearing noises in the attic but when she "moved out" she moved into the attic and killed the family.

[@howdoiusethisthing6429]

She knew how to run the farm, she knew where everything was, and she was gone before they heard the noises.

[@ScrapsGoob]

Ooooh good one

[@1ty0n]

@@ScrapsGoob thx

[@mbunn789]

I just wrote that then saw your comment. That is also why they were lured into the barn feeling safe, they knew the culprit.

[@gersongonzalez588]

Oh sh!!!t

[@JenniferSara1982]

Thank you for making a paranormal playlist! YAY!

[@tinahachey454]

I work overnight shifts I normally come home to sleep but I can't get enough of these mystery I'm loving this channel thank you 👍

[@nautifella]

The night shift where I work has what you could call down time, and we like to look into cold case files. This was one of them. One of the managers is retired Army and married to a German girl, and she was able to get some documents from some archive in Bavaria. Those documents indicate that the leading suspect is the neighbor. He stood to gain the most, in fact he did. He ended up getting the livestock for free because he took care of them after the murders and acquired most of the land from the family that inherited it. Nobody wanted to buy a _Murder Farm_ so they sold it off in parts and tore down the buildings. He has living relatives so German Law prohibits his being publicly identified.

[@carolyns.672]

A year after the murders the buildings were torn down and a memorial was raised at the spot of the farm as a memorial to the victims.

[@aj-sj6xc]

But why would he sleep in the house ?

[@TheKeegangsta]

Nahh... I'm sure people would like for it to be that simple, but my gut tells me Occam's Razor doesn't apply here.

[@JosephCee]

how do you explain the paranormal activity? how do you explain all the creepiness? this place sounds exactly like skinwalker ranch.

[@breadevlin3781]

whomever it was, probably tired. Ate the food, probably because of hunger. Made a fire, because it was cold. Mystery solved.

[@assassinyt937]

it’s 3am dude chill with these pics man

[@danieldella_vecchia]

hahaha

[@kairey600]

Lmao

[@Restlessgypzy]

😂🤣 RIGHT! It’s not the stories, that freak me out.... It’s those damn pictures! And sadly I always catch upon these stories late at night, usually still have to take the dogs out to run and potty before bed, and often still have a few last min chores I need to finish... Did I mention, we own and lease 2 working horse farms, both surrounded by woods, and kind private, the one we lease is 80acres of property, 60 solid woods, no electricity, and very cut off, almost in a other worldly way from any surrounding homes. So if we have an issue like a sick horse or something I have to make late night checks on, being as my husband works full time, and has to be up early and off to work.. The late night checks or overnight stays out there are always me alone, with my 3 dogs and my shotgun lol. It’s very secluded and can be a bit creepy. It’s on the river, so there’s always lots of different nights sounds, and those nights when the fog rolls in, it’s straight out of nightmares lol. Add to that all the locals swearing the place is haunted. If I didn’t love that property and my horses so much, I likely would have quit leasing it a long time ago. Plus I’m not smart enough to also not listen to these or my other fav horror story narrators on the drive there. 😂

[@spadeRKR]

@@Restlessgypzy interesting

[@skip8349]

Frfr I live home alone so yea dont watch this b4 bed lol im wide awake now 🤣🤣

[@CJSteffff-ip8xp]

It’s crazy to hear him be kinda hesitant in the intro, “strange, mysterious and or dark” is crazy to me. Genuinely so proud rn

[@stroopeproductions9769]

3:37 Literally scared the living shit out of me, I can not look at that image it is so scary looking

[@virgoearlgrey]

2:35 messed me up first, I was turned away from the screen and that’s what I see first. Then again at 3:37 mark. Glad I’m watching in the morning.

[@lucystewart2008]

Jumped out my skin. Thanks MR BALLEN FOR GIVING ME NIGHTMARES TONIGHT

[@joeharris5990]

@@virgoearlgrey I'm watching it right now at five past eleven in the night 😂😂

[@virgoearlgrey]

@@joeharris5990 oh man there’s no way. I only watch during the day cuz I get freaked out. We’re going camping for a week in September so I think I’ll need to stop watching like a month before we go so I’m not losing my sh!t while we’re out there. I guess that speaks on how good a story teller Mr. Ballen is.

[@curnies]

@@virgoearlgrey can confirm that a good pause before camping is needed lol, I went the past weekend after binging these vids and it was ….. stressful lol

[@Rita443]

1:53 Who else thought for a second the second lady was headless? 😂😂

[@kens2328]

Isn’t she? I looked several times and she always looked headless to me. Yikes!

[@martinfriel8234]

I thought the same thing

[@3hirty.8ight]

Ken S no look closely

[@joshuap.9762]

Get Out Of My Head! 😂 I momentarily thought the same exact thing!

[@Extramrdo]

@@kens2328 she's an old granny looking down and scowling, and she's wearing a white head thing that blends in with the background.

[@michamocha]

What makes it creepier is the fact that while there was trails only leading up to that one door, there seemed to be none _inside_ the house itself. Snow tend to leave a wet mess when you entered the home. It's like they walked to the door and just vanished if the owners couldn't find any evidence of wet footprints in the house.

[@praiseplumbers2475]

If it was the maid, as some think, she would have known exactly how to clean up behind her up to the place where she went to hide inside the wall.

[@StoTooHard]

They might have taken off their boots.

[@MATRIX_felipoo18]

This is so sad and terrifying back then there we're no technology like we have today so cases like this is really hard to solved

[@lotuslake9323]

Footprints always reminds me of a tale known as 'The Devil's Hoofprints' that was turning up in all kinds of spooky related places, magazines etc years back. One footprint had made a trail in the snow that went for many miles and- even over rooftops, continuing on the ground the other side! There is also one from Victorian times of a being called 'Spring-heeledJack', who for a time kept appearing, leaping impossibly across rooftops etc. All I can remember, but might be worth investigating further...

[@sabrinafelber]

Oh yes! That's a good one! I think it's from the U.K maybe? Can't remember. I'm getting old lol!

[@kathidapp]

there's another similar one in the u.s. too but I can't remember his name, did the same stuff

[@georgemacdonell2341]

ah, legend's get told and retold across continents even oceans, if it's a good one it sticks around.

[@Deadtileyedie]

@@kathidapp it's the black flash..and it was London that springheel Jack was in they are very similar

[@kathidapp]

@@Deadtileyedie oh no does that mean another ones coning bc they were roughly 100 yrs apart

[@byeongcheol5610]

Hands down the best telling of the Hinterkaifeck murders I've heard. This story is notoriously difficult to research, but you include many facts that are new to me. Great job.

[@LuriTV]

you aren't german or can understand german by any chance? If so, Hoaxilla crime has a podcast episode about the Hinterkaifeck murders with criminal psychologist Lydia Benecke as guest. It is over 2 hours long and way way way more indepth than this video.

[@maiamartine-tetzloff3831]

Have you listened to the Red Web podcast episode on Hinterkaifeck? It’s a much longer format so they go into way more detail on some things including the theories. So chilling.

[@byeongcheol5610]

@@maiamartine-tetzloff3831 I haven’t, but I will definitely listen to it tonight! Thank you!!

[@SuperVaIle]

I find this telling of it pretty poor honesty because he is narrating from the father, Andreas', perspective even though he was literally abusing his entire family physically, psychologically, and sexually. He's actually both the father and grandfather of Yusef as he was there result of him assaulting his own daughter and her refused to let her leave his house. He also beat his wife and was apparently very controlling and he seemingly didn't care that his family were afraid of the noises so I don't like this version just portraying him as a normal person with normal relationships. Rob Gavegan has a recent video that really goes into deaph of all the different theories. It's not an awful retelling by any means but it's at least a known fact what he did to his own daughter and not allowing her to marry their neighbor to get away from her father's abuse. Absolutely tragic, she could just not catch a break.

[@LKRBooks]

i swear.. im just casually listening while doing work on my second monitor... and you put up 10:53 out of nowhere scaring the living hell out of me

[@adamtheman3659]

Looks like Michael Jackson no cap

[@YouTubesucksdick]

@@adamtheman3659 It really does 😳

[@joshuacampbell2206]

I watch ALL your videos!! Like binge watch them.. Your delivery is impeccable!! You're a natural. Keep up the good work my man!!

[@Jaketheaxman]

I think somebody was living in their walls. When they heard the family go up toward the attic, they mustve slipped somewhere into the walls.

[@Azubjourni]

No, i disagree completely with your theory, bye!!!

[@kelvinb16]

@@Azubjourni cya!!!

[@ddekotah2118]

Maybe the one living in the basement and the one who murder them were to different people

[@kevingee9928]

@@Azubjourni lmao

[@noahtelanderazzaro2576]

I looked in the case and i dont find anything saying that they heard wierd noises

[@bp1099]

I love the snowy back drop makes me feel Christmassy and forget the murderous story in the back ground

[@jamesa3818]

I've always been a hypervigilant type, if I hear even the most obscure noise I'll get a torch and a weapon and check my entire property. I am also the kind who if I heard noises in the wall I'd open the wall and see if there was a crawl space and just repair the wall afterwards. But this makes me wonder about some of the strangest happenings in my life.

[@a1exsand]

A torch? My man are you living back in 1922 as well. I have a flashlight.

[@jamesa3818]

@@a1exsand is your point that English, Australian English and American are different languages?

[@DPMConnacht]

@@a1exsand, a "flashlight" is a "torch" in many non-American English speaking countries. Outside of the United States very few English speaking people speak "American English". I knew several people of Russian, Hungarian, and Polish descent and each of them learned to speak "British English". Each made a point of saying much of my terminology was confusing and my Mid-Western "accent" difficult to understand.

[@ElementofKindness]

The best defense, is a decisive, aggressive offence.

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

Like what? BTW I'm from OZ, we have torches.

[@jtonneson]

Your channel is the reason I subscribed to KZbin prime! So I can download your videos and listen to them on the plane. Fantastic channel. I wish you much success.

[@lauraschmaus8159]

Wow, I just clicked on this video without reading the whole title and I literally froze when Mr Ballen said Hinterkaifeck murders... this happened just ten kilometers away from me... just terrifying

[@genderfluidlygay7146]

Sheeshhh that's terrifying

[@Abracoor84]

Well it is believed that Andreas gruber was the killer, fun fact: he denied his neighbour to marry his daughter cuz he had practiced incest with his daughter.

[@syafiqasyraf_yt]

So u live in waidhofen?

[@genderfluidlygay7146]

@@Abracoor84 A WHAT-

[@Abracoor84]

@genderfluidly gay huh?